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Nonsense. Literacy in developed countries continues to be 99% or higher and the world at large is quickly becoming more literate. Globally, literacy is almost at 90%.
https://unstats.un.org/sdgs/report/2025/Goal-04/

Zoomzooms are much more politically and socially aware than the boomercattle who spent all their lives watching television. The real problem is not that kids don't read, but that tiktok and other social media is frying their brains. There will be an underclass for the elites to exploit but that underclass will be created by mongrelizing and replacing whites with browns. The future West will be a close copy of China, maybe to a lesser degree in the USA since their Constitution still grants them actual human rights. Social engineering by tech companies was always limited by the freedom of the Internet but that's why governments worldwide are just stepping in to ban VPNs, wrongthink and anything against their agenda. I must say though, this doesn't really apply to females, who already are extremely easy to herd.

>>324788
Good point. Oh, that explains the fearmongering regarding this or that kind of surveillance "already here", "it's literally 1984 now", "Palantir" meme and such.

>>324789
Did you really miss the part where they just rolled out mass surveillance with ring and flock cameras? They are everywhere now. We literally already have China style mass surveillance.

>>324786
Everybody, zoomer boomer whomever, doesn't read anymore. Newspaper, magazine and slop novels were the Tiktok of old. People read newspapers outside in the train and park as a some form proto-doomscrolling. When affordable TV came, most people ditch reading for the new shiny brain distractor. When the internet and smartphone came, people switch even faster. Now nobody is reading anymore and its not just the zoomers.

>>324795
This is a complete lie lmao. People are reading more than ever now. It's just happening digitally. Long lengthy articles, long AI responses, long search results, digital novels and literature. Literally what are people on about when they say nobody is reading? Its impossible to be illiterate in today's age, because being illiterate means not being able navigate the internet, which involves reading, understanding language, understanding grammar, etc.

>Really if people can't even read anymore, I shudder to think what might happen.

Literate humanity has been largely enjoined in studying jewish fanfiction (the phoenician bible) for the last 2000 years. Or commentaries on jewish fanfiction. What good has come of this? And ere the Bible was brought together, we find European Greeks being reared on the immoral war-glorifying fiction of the Ilias. Was that ever creative of anything good?

For all the varied reading we have been made to do while growing, can anyone actually claim that it was to a final profitable purpose, if the most of present humanity lacked basic intelligence enough to see past the face of a dangerous jewish trick like the covid pandemic?

Further I’m surprised that no wizzie here thought to broach the matter of ancient literacy rates. That is, just what was the percentage of humanity in antiquity that could take up a book composed in say Latin or Greek and truly read it with comprehension from cover to cover? We see that:

“The highest literacy rate in antiquity was likely around 10%, primarily found in urban areas, while rural populations had much lower rates. Overall, literacy was quite rare, with estimates suggesting that in some regions, it could be as low as 1% or even less.”

“She agrees with Bar-Ilan on his statistical claims: total literacy in Palestine was probably around 3%; those who were literate were largely located in urban areas; some villages and towns had literacy rates of lower than 1%.” Source: https://ehrmanblog.org/how-many-people-were-literate-in-antiquity/

Also I ask that wizzies don’t forget the grammatical structure of Latin and old Greek, both of which were “synthetic” book languages probably intentionally developed to a pitch of complication in order to prevent the common people from understanding the materials written in them. Even someone like Josephus (who, wizzies, if you’ve ever read his works in Greek, composed very exceptionally complex sentences) was supposedly said to be unable to write the language without assistance from native Greek speakers:

“But even she points out that Josephus is the only Jew of Roman Palestine to indicate that he learned Greek, and she notes that Josephus himself indicates that he could not write literary Greek without assistance from Greek speakers (Contra Apionem 1.9).”

And:

“Louis Feldman notes that “Josephus’s admission (Contra Apionem 1.50 [= 1.9]) that he needed assistance in composing the version in Greek of the Jewish War illustrates that few attained the competence in the language necessary for reading and understanding Greek literature.”

All of this caused me to think of one of my favorite aphorisms in the old Greek tongue, which is as follows: κενὸς ἐκείνου φιλοσόφου λόγος ὑφ΄ οὗ μηδὲν ἀνθρώπου πάθος θεραπεύεται· ὥσπερ γὰρ ἰατρικῆς μηδὲν ὄφελος μὴ τὰς νόσους ἐκβαλλούσης ἀπὸ τῶν σωμάτων͵ οὕτως οὐδὲ φιλοσοφίας εἰ μὴ τὸ τῆς ψυχῆς κακὸν ἐκβάλοι.

This is: Empty is the word of that philosopher by which no suffering of man is healed. For as there exists no avail of medicine unless of casting diseases from out of bodies, thus neither of philosophy if unless it would throw evil from out of the soul.

I say let the same be considered of education and of the reading materials we give to children: what good are they if they don’t bring truthful knowledge of reality to the mind of the learner? They need to be more than routine learning exercises drawn from classes of old stories impertinent to the spirit of modern life.

>The future West will be a close copy of China,

Reminder that jews control China (and that modern China is not Chinese, it is jewish).

Mandatory reading for all wizards:

https://big-lies.org/jews/how-jews-took-over-china-josh-2021.html
https://big-lies.org/jews/how-jews-took-over-china-josh-2021.html

>We literally already have China style mass surveillance.

Double-reminder that the vendors supplying the (((communist))) Chinese with their surveillance tech are all jews.

>but that's why governments worldwide are just stepping in to ban VPNs

ALL modern governments are jewish terrorism. All governmental censorship organs (google, youtube) are equally jewish.

>"it's literally 1984 now", "Palantir"

Recall that 1984 was written by Eric Blair whose distributing publisher was a Warburg. 1984 has been wrongly reputed as some sort of warning against a dark future but is oppositely in truth controlled foreknowledge given by jewish publishers as to what the manlian quality of their communist world-system would be.

Palantir is also as jewish as pumpernickel bagels. A literal anti-white mutt nigger jew runs the whole thing.

>Now nobody is reading anymore and its not just the zoomers.

I trust wizzies here can translate the Latin: qui legit, regit : who readeth, ruleth. But perhaps the Latin should be amended to: qui sapienter et late legit, sciet exactius quemadmodum novicius mundus citra pestilentiam iudaicae tyrannidis debeat administrari : who wisely and broadly reads, shall more exactly know how a new world independent of the pestilence of jewish tyranny may owe to be governed. Let the fittest design the dimensions of a new reality that’ll reverse the revolutionary action of the last 500 years.

We may reproduce the Homeric sentiment of ξείνων δ' εὖ πρασσόντων ἔσαναν αὐτίκ ἀγγελίαν ποτὶ γλυκεῖαν ἐσλοί (O. 4.5). This is: of foreign men doing well forthwith did good men smile at the sweet announcement. We will smile at seeing foreigners throwing off jewish tyranny, as we will do the same ourselves.

>>324808
You again. Why do you always ignore me when I try to talk to you?

Many links in the biglies site dont work. Might wanna fix that.

>>324809
>You again. Why do you always ignore me when I try to talk to you?

I've never ignored you. I'm here to converse over whatever you would like.

>Many links in the biglies site dont work.

It's not my site. And in any case the link included in the above post is functional.

This is nonsense kids use smartphones and tablets these days, how would they be able to use them without knowing how to read?

my aunt's kid is completely brainrotted
she is incapable of sitting down to eat
she takes 2 bites and then goes jump and yell around for 5 minutes, and then 2 more bites and so on
she can only sit down to eat if she has an ipad playing cocomelon or whatever right in front of her plate
even when she wants to play games or with toys she has 0 attention span
she can be so excited to play something and for a while bother everyone to play with her
but then she plays for 5 minutes and gets bored and moves onto something else
and that something else she also can't last more than 5 minutes
she permanently yells and jumps around and bothers everyone
the only time I've ever seen her calm is when she watches cocomelon diarrhoea on her ipad
it really is like you look away look back and she already is doing something different

>>324813
Worst thing is that when she grows up to be retarded her parents will blame her with "these kids nowadays ain't capable of anything like we used to in the good ol' days". Or they will claim it's "ADHD", made-up illness used to describe a kid whose neglectful and lazy parents deserve the death penalty for allowing their child's brain to rot with the electric jew since age 0.

>>324811
Alright, then I'll ask you a few questions.

1. Are you a wizard?
2. For how long have you been researching the jews, and who introduced you to it?
3. What are your sources? Many jew evidence is being hidden by alot of search engines, and old archives have been deleted.
And 4. How did you find the BigLies website? It doesnt seem like a standard website you'd encounter easily.

>>324818
Also big surprise, when niggers, brown and spics don't actually like jews very much and won't think twice to attack them with acid on the street :)

>>324812
I think it comes down to differing definitions of literacy. Being able to read a few basic words is not being fully literate by most standards. Most standards require you to be able to read full sentences and comprehend them. Smart phones now have icons for everything, you don't need to be able to read. You will see normies, often blacks using only voice communication through either video or calls. They also consume almost all video content. This means they barely never have to read and become functionally illiterate, incapable of doing things like reading a list of written instructions and following them. This doesn't mean they can't read at all though.

>>324817
>How did you find the BigLies website? It doesnt seem like a standard website you'd encounter easily.
Not him, but how new are you? Sites like that were posted all over nu/pol/ back in the day lol.

>>324821
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_the_United_States

Reading this page I found some interesting stuff. Apparently there has been a measurable decrease in literacy which starts showing up around the mid 2010's, which coincides with the popularization of smart phones.

It also says

>In 2023, 28% of adults scored at or below Level 1, 29% at Level 2, and 44% at Level 3 or above.[1] Adults scoring in the lowest levels of literacy increased 9 percentage points between 2017 and 2023. In 2017, 19% of U.S. adults achieved a Level 1 or below in literacy, while 48% achieved the highest levels.

An almost 10 point drop in the highest level of literacy in only 6 years is actually pretty wild.

>>324823
Or, almost 10 point rise in people scoring in the lowest level I should say.

i grew up before smartphones and social media, all we had was cable and maybe video games.
when i was bored with those things i would go to the library to check out huge stacks of books.

I cant imagine doing the same if i grew up in 2026, my attention is completely fried by the internet, it would take me months of going cold turky on no internet to regain it an be able to read books again

>>324786
>Do you buy this?

nope

>>324813

well humans came from monkeys, humans are meant to be high performing physical beings and not sit still and pretend to care about mostly useless information and also kids aren't trained to be depressed yet.

how is this brainrot and not just you looking out from behind your cage bars cursing at the free people, squidward?

>>324786
It's literally just racial demographics. There are way fewer white kids and way more thirdies. I haven't seen any of those reports about illiteracy control for race.

>>324821
Personally I count writing as part of literacy too. Even on Reddit and other chans, you'll see shit like massive walls of text without a single comma or full stop, or weird misspellings of words because the writer only knows those words phonetically.

>>324836
"Asian" lumps in Indians, Pakistanis, Arabs, Afghans, etc., they need to separate East, South and West Asians.

>>324836
>US
How about just look at the rest of the world?

>>324821
Does this really exist, a large amount of people who are able to speak but not read?
This sounds like something from an underdeveloped third world country.
I would avoid people like that like the plague.

>>324844
>I would avoid people like that like the plague.
The thing is, it's getting harder and harder to get away from them each passing year, your hometown will be culturally enriched and you will enjoy it.

>>324845
I sure hope i'm not forced to interact with people like that

it's bullshit. they're counting a bunch of spics, somalis and haitians in the US stats who don't know english. no shit the kids of guatemalan migrants won't know english

>>324918
>doesn't include actual literacy rates
I'm willing to bet even accounting for immigration and shit, that literacy rates have dropped over the past 15 years or more.

There is no benefit to *actively* participate in race wars, especially when your "own" people hate you.

>>324918
Kids are growing up not only glued to iPads, but now using LLMs for school work and everything else. Compare it to the millennial and older generations where you had to sit down with a book and figure out how to write about it unaided. At best you could copy someone else's homework. There's no chance the younger generations are getting as much practice reading and writing in their younger years.

>>324843
it's even worse globally. I can't find the actual stats this quickly but white % or high iq % of world population if you want to include east asians is dropping faster globally than it is in the US.
Giving charity to africa is literally like a world ending plan

>>324934
It's pretty funny. When I was a kid I used to think the "if you use a calculator for everything, you won't learn how to do math!" line was bullshit. But now that I've seen a generation offload their entire brain to a machine I realize my parents had a point.

I hope they can learn to think at some point in their lives without Big Tech's assistance. Some seem to be trying. But I know that the forces that be would really rather they didn't so I don't have much hope that they can learn.

>>324950
Even written books are a mental crutch compared to rote memorized poetic epics. The ancients looked at the proliferation of books with suspicion.

>>324959
I agree. And they had a legitimate concern because memory HAS gotten significantly worse over time. Even within my life time people lost the ability to store 7 digit random numbers, because we just store them inside the phone and carry "our" phone with us rather than use whatever phone is nearby.
Humanity always figures something out. But I get the feeling I will be dead before the disturbance caused by hooking everyone up to a global communication/storage network is sorted.

>>324947
Nigerians have the idea in their head that the best way to get rich is to have a lot of children and then hope of of them becomes a millionaire.

>>324964
That sounds like playing the lottery, except it takes at least 18 years to check your ticket.

>>324973
Well, for farmers it takes a lot less time than that. This is an attitude that primarily agricultural societies have because the more children you have, the more workers on your farm you have and the more money you can make. Child labor is the norm on farms and always has been. Nigeria is transitioning from a primarily agricultural society to a primarily urbanized society. Same transition the rest of the world did when it urbanized. African countries are just farther behind so the attitudes have yet to shift, but they will eventually like they did everywhere else.

Child labor is worse than adult labor (from the point of how productive they can be), and the more sophisticated and developed your society becomes the more true this becomes as the gap between the earnings of an adult and a child grow so large that most developed economies don't have children work at all so they can focus on education. Under these dynamics, more children become a burden to the household as parents have to work to support their children, so they naturally have fewer children.

>>324959
>>324962
Homer never existed. Omeros/Homerus was a group of men whose purpose was psychological control through making popular narrative propaganda (be a good serf, seek glory in war and die). Even the historicity of the dramatic matter of the poems themselves was long ago called into question by certain Greeks (eg, Herodotus). And the issue of the creation of the Homeric canon remains controverted because really there is no-one who knows exactly when these spoken war fables first entered broad consciousness, let alone when they would have been compiled into one lettered system and from there having discovered pockets of literate readership that could have memorized them. Because of this, the belief in the wide dispersal of these poems on the assumed strength of an earlier unattested oral tradition should be doubted.

>Even written books are a mental crutch compared to rote memorized poetic epics. The ancients looked at the proliferation of books with suspicion.

There’s no evidence for any of this. Again, how many had the intelligence or education to actually memorize “poetic epics” composed in high literary ionic greek in any appreciable length? And why would ancient man have viewed the proliferation of nonfiction written material with suspicion? Besides have you ever studied the Homeric poems in Greek? They are an absolute narrative mess that feel like a patchwork of disconnected thoughts, varied language styles, illogical plot-lines, all made to agree with one another under an umbrella of obsessive thematic enforcement of the virtues of war. Does not our own modern day give proof of the true character of the homeric mythologies in that they are still being used to sell the praises of war to young men? It is this irresponsible dramatic focus placed by Homer on celebrating the “glories” of war that has always put me off of him. But instead of here quoting directly from “Homer” in evidence of my argument (which I won’t do, as I feel he/they were propagandists), examine by comparison some passages from out of the mock epic of the Batrachomyomachia (Frog-Mouse-Fight), which features an astonishingly similar writing style. This first passage homerically copies the tone of a human war-leader when delivering a speech, but instead of a man addressing his troops, it is a frog addressing a group of frogs after having been charged with the murder of the mouse prince:

“μεμφομένων δʼ αὐτῶν Φυσίγναθος εἶπεν ἀναστάς·
Ὦ φίλοι οὐκ ἔκτεινον ἐγὼ μῦν, οὐδὲ κατεῖδον
ὀλλύμενον· πάντως δʼ ἐπνίγη παίζων παρὰ λίμνην,
νήξεις τὰς βατράχων μιμούμενος· οἱ δὲ κάκιστοι
νῦν ἐμὲ μέμφονται τὸν ἀναίτιον·”

And of them having blamed, Physignathos having risen did say:
O friends, I did not kill the mouse, nor did I see him ruined.
But entirely he was drowned playing beside the lake,
having imitated the swimmings of frogs. But they those most evil mice
do now accuse me innocent.

And here the end of the war is relayed when Zeus sends in an army of crabs to scatter the conquering mice:

“Ἦλθον δʼ ἐξαίφνης νωτάκμονες, ἀγκυλοχεῖλαι,
λοξοβάται, στρεβλοί, ψαλιδόστομοι, ὀστρακόδερμοι,
ὀστοφυεῖς, πλατύνωτοι, ἀποστίλβοντες ἐν ὤμοις,
βλαισοί, χειλοτένοντες, ἀπὸ στέρνων ἐσορῶντες,
ὀκτάποδες, δικάρηνοι, ἀχειρέες, οἱ δὲ καλεῦνται
καρκίνοι, οἵ ῥα μυῶν οὐρὰς στομάτεσσιν ἔκοπτον
ἠδὲ πόδας καὶ χεῖρας· ἀνεγνάμπτοντο δὲ λόγχαι.
τοὺς δὴ ὑπέδεισαν δειλοὶ μύες οὐδʼ ἔτʼ ἔμειναν,
ἐς δὲ φυγὴν ἐτράποντο· ἐδύετο δʼ ἥλιος ἤδη,
καὶ πολέμου τελετὴ μονοήμερος ἐξετελέσθη.”

And suddenly did come grieve-backed, bent-lipped,
crooked-stepped, twisted, nipper-mouthed, shell-skinned,
bone-natured, broad, shining in shoulders,
curved, lip-stretching, seeing from out of the chests,
eight-footed, two-headed, handless, they who are called
crabs, they who then did strike the tails of the mice with their mouths
and feet and claws. And the lances [of the mice] were bent.
Now the craven mice feared them nor did still they remain,
yet they were turned into flight. And already the sun was plunged,
and the one-day-long end of the war was completed.


This is roughly what Homeric greek feels like. It’s highly verbal, constantly shifting back and forth between dialogue of angry warring parties, drenched in scenes of brutal fighting, ultimately teaching little else save the glorification of irrationality and warfare. How anyone ever took these poems as patterns instructive of an ideal in early learning is beyond me. I feel like in resisting homeric literature I can summon the line of Circe who when speaking of Odysseus’ immunity to her spells said: “σοὶ δέ τις ἐν στήθεσσιν ἀκήλητος νόος ἐστίν” , that is: in breasts for thee is a certain unenchanted mind.

>>324981
I am no scholar of greek but this puts me in mind of the following tidbit of Euclid that's stuck with me:

Δὸς αὐτῷ τρεῖς ὀβολούς, ἐπεὶ δεῖ αὐτὸν κερδαίνειν ἀπὸ τῶν μανθανομένων

which was translated to me as
"Give him three obols, since he must make a profit from us" that latter part however misconstructed being the striking part. Everything *must* generate a profit, it *must* contribute to the sum of human learning, because no other value is valid.

What I think the Greeks knew, and modern living is perhaps learning painfully once more, is the limits of rationality in the broad populace. Specifically in a context of abundance, where survival is taken as more of a given than a struggle (for the entrenched few), where every activity or decision has a reasonably stable outcome and basic rational behaviour when applied to it has a positive outcome… what then?

I work as an engineer, a good day or a good project for me raises the floor of labour required to make value in the modern world by some tiny degree such that 5-10 more people are no longer fit to contribute to it. Usually the staff i've been brought in to automate out of relevance. Perfectly rational course of action - where does *that* end?

The romantics and oligarchs of the post industrial revolution saw the rough outline of this reality and dove in to highly sentimental and flowery language as a badge of honour adding arbitrary complexity and unspoken expectations as almost a sport. Now I start to think it was actually the right thing to do - because I've read Kaczynski.

So consider; in a world with progressively more and more engineering and rational planning, where speciation is likely to be on the horizon based on wealth and luck, what's *left* for those below the standard of future true Aristocracy in the literal meaning but the fleeting joy and excitement of heroic poetry? Slavery in chains so light and gilded they know not the difference? Perfectly Rational Slavery of the mind if not the body? Azimov had a credible vision of this in the later Foundation books with Fallom and Solaria - an entire planet consisting of the estates of 100 or so biological individuals who detest being less than a thousand miles from each other.

Enshrining violence and valour in poetic form preserves it as something to be celebrated- because the alternative is mute and humble submission as fed to those of whom's it's expected by those who benefit.

Because the cycle of violence is a cycle - it limits stagnation and ossification.

>>324987
>Enshrining violence and valour in poetic form preserves it as something to be celebrated

I think the glorifying of violence in books is fine so long as the narrative target is purposed at specific tyrannical elements limiting the freedom of other characters’ lives. But this isn’t the case with the Homeric poems, which celebrate indiscriminate violence and bloodshed in circumstances of pointless war. Agamemnon for instance is a basic fat greedy king who craves more power, whom Homer describes as Οἰνοβαρές, κυνὸς ὄμματ᾿ ἔχων, κραδίην δ᾿ ἐλάφοιο, wine-heavy, having the eyes of a dog, and the heart of a deer. And yet the whole of the Iliad features innocent brainwashed young soldiers dying on the behalf of the ambitions of this slob king. Though this was probably near the belligerent conditions of the ancient world, where half-deranged rulers led young men to their deaths. But our own modern day isn’t much different, where masonic puppets (presidents, prime ministers) of jewish bankers lead young men to their deaths.

>Because the cycle of violence is a cycle

Violence is the native quality of all biological life. A gnostic interpretation would be that the demiurge set us in a loop to devour each other. But I don’t necessarily support this view.

>What I think the Greeks knew, and modern living is perhaps learning painfully once more,

I think the Greeks understood this when we find the sentence: Βίος κέκληται δ' ὡς βίᾳ πορίζεται → Vi quia paratur vita, vita dicitur

It has been called life (bios) because it is supplied with force (bia). And then this is carried into Latin with similar alliteration as: Vi quia paratur vita, vita dicitur — Because life (vita) is prepared with force (vis), it is said life (vita).

I maintain that there is nothing wrong with this however so long as the carrying of force (violentia) is managed by a just ruling party (which at this moment in our world it is not).

> is the limits of rationality in the broad populace

If this is your way of saying the goyish herd is a stupid animal, then I agree with you.

Ἰσχυρὸν ὄχλος ἐστίν, οὐκ ἔχει δὲ νοῦν: a crowd is strong, but it hath not mind.

Though the platonic conceit following from this of “nobly” lying (pseudos gennaion) to the herd or greater communized slave class is not something that must ever be condoned. Honesty will be the standard of the new league of rulers that displaces the present deceiving rabbis.

>Everything *must* generate a profit, it *must* contribute to the sum of human learning, because no other value is valid.

>Δὸς αὐτῷ τρεῖς ὀβολούς, ἐπεὶ δεῖ αὐτὸν κερδαίνειν ἀπὸ τῶν μανθανομένων

I disagree with this and with Euclid’s opinion. Expecting money in return for knowledge is the definition of sophistical. Every proper philosopher has always argued against this habit. That human behavior is in its general condition selfish should not serve as a standard for us (even if being in this conviction seems naive). In response to Euclid’s Greek, I might also add a counter sentence of my own, which is “ἵνα μάθῃ σοφιστὴς ὤν ἔτι καταλείπειν ἴδιον κέρδος” in order that yet being a sophist he may learn to forsake private gain.

>because I've read Kaczynski.

I believe Kaczynski was a (((CIA))) project and invented personality whose purpose was to safely test the waters for any signs of rebellion in the general population. I think this for three reasons:

1. Kaczynski was from Berkeley (a CIA hotbed and one of the most jewish universities in America)

2. Kaczynski never once made any mention of the group that actually rules America (judeo-masonry)

3. Kaczynski never made any critique of the illusion mechanics of modern judeo-masonic democracy (the political system under which he lived), instead wrongly advocating for the childish and dangerous and impossible system of anarchism as a solution to his industrial society.

I maintain however that the right system of government is neither anarchism nor communism nor democracy, but mercantilist monarchism (ie, the very system jews and masons have spent the last 500 years destroying).

>what's *left* for those below the standard of future true Aristocracy in the literal meaning but the fleeting joy and excitement of heroic poetry?

I doubt many actually find Homeric poems enjoyable. But I could be wrong. And as far as what is left for them beyond watching jewlywood garbage — I would say first before all making an effort to become more aware and more intelligently hopeful, as these will function like stopgaps to fill psychological vulnerabilities currently being exploited by our rulers.

>Perfectly Rational Slavery of the mind if not the body? Azimov

This was always the ideal of the jews who rule us. Azimov was also a jew. Jews have enslaved non-jews with false ideas (abrahamic religion, occultic heliocentric science, virological medicine, masonic equality, fiat paper money, feminism, climate change, etc.) while also sickening them physically with poisoned food and air.

You’re an engineer — consider this simple sentence from out of Euclid’s Elements:

ὕψος ἐστὶ παντὸς σχήματος ἡ ἀπὸ τῆς κορυφῆς ἐπὶ τὴν βάσιν κάθετος ἀγομένη. The height of every figure is a line led perpendicular from the top upon the base.

So the same geometric definition can be applied by analogy to the ruling structures under which we live our lives. The satanic influence of every high tyrannical institution is an influencing vector stretching down over the base of our civilization. The matter of remodeling the architecture of this effect is exactly the matter of drawing attention to who sits at the top of the pyramidal figure.

>>324994
>But this isn’t the case with the Homeric poems, which celebrate indiscriminate violence and bloodshed in circumstances of pointless war

Consider however that Valor and strength cannot be determined from a zero position and has to be both selected for and cultivated. Reckless expeditions of young men transmute the youthful energy into skill and tested capacity in ways that training - no matter how brutal - can never equal. The distortion of the modern era has perhaps forever disconnected this. Instead of genuine tests of character and bodily strenght, and environments that force virtue or death on the participants, baseline warfare has become so much of an accounting exercise that on the few instances when it stops behaving that way, the participants are largely incapable of responding.

Which is to say the madness of kings culling the weak is perhaps preferable to the madness of accountants and bankers achieving the same thing.

>Violence is the native quality of all biological life.

Feasibly one step further, violence - specifically physical distortion - is the nature of … well nature. The sun burns and destroys the bonds between atoms, the black hole rips stable equilibrium, the atomic decay of everything reduces the complex to the simple to be recycled with great waste and loss at every step. Therefore;

>pseudos gennaion
The problem with rejecting this, is that nobility of mind and character is - I think - a resource derived from either finite feedstock or second and third order effects of social constructs. It follows then that no matter how close to 100% efficient these processes or resources become, they will consume their baseline pre-requisites. Zero sum game as always. What then to be done with the un-improvable herd no matter how groomed and polished? Violence controlled by the virtuous ruling class?

>Euclid’s opinion
My reading of it was intentional sarcasm in response to the school boy level question of "But what will we do with knowing this? What profit is it?". Making the transaction explicit and immediate and holding it up as a lesson for those humble enough to read it. But perhaps that's my own bias against such sophistry.

>mercantilist monarchism
You will almost certainly enjoy reading Curtis Yarvin and Thomas Carlyle if you haven't already.
As for Kaczynski, conceded to a point. On the one hand his observations are valid in a great many ways but perhaps the framing of the problematic towards the foregone conclusion was the act of subversion. I'll need to think about that.

>I doubt many actually find Homeric poems enjoyable.
In the modern world it's called the superbowl. Pointless violence celebrated with high production values and given cultural primacy - as Homer was in the era of Socrates and obliquely maligned by the later. Or perhaps even World Wrestling Entertainment - a gimmick that for all its flaws South Park made highly convincing. Homer endures because - I think - either the classical greeks did not have the critical mass of people to support dedicated venues, or they did but it's only the written form as performed in general purpose theatres that survived up to now.

>high tyrannical institution
Coherently put but i'd go one further; it is the nature of institutions to exert such influence, not some pervasive distortion. I'll grant your base line assertion but consider - what evidence do we have of structured institutions before ((they)) influenced it where high virtues both stood enshrined and were worked to a worthy end? Most/all records of such things have been lost or distorted in turn - perhaps - but I know of no body of men in history outside the corrupting influence that was not itself visibly corrupt by its own characteristics.

Back to nature and its furnace of affliction, if an institution by its structure and coherence improves efficiency - then it makes the furnace of affliction burn that much hotter and consume that much more fuel because the incidental obstacles holding the 'natural' pyre in check are managed and minimised.

>>324981
Bro even in the middle ages scholars emphasized memory because books were so expensive. They had mnemonic "mind temples" they utilized in their imagination to better retain legal information.

Oftentimes the specifics of law was rote memorized because the actual legal charter was 100km away and you couldn't just pull a book out from your library. They were chained to desks.

Mnemonics only seriously declined in the 19th century, exactly when books proliferated exponentially, and coincidentally right when the university system first dumbed down. Thats when actual specialized degrees started instead of students being expected to learn on their own.

>>324981
>the Batrachomyomachia

This is a fun little read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batrachomyomachia

>>324996
>Bro even in the middle ages scholars emphasized memory because books were so expensive. They had mnemonic "mind temples" they utilized in their imagination to better retain legal information.

Maybe they should have been working to amend the bodies of their civilizations with sounder systems of religion and government and economics that the memorizing of the details of the old systems would no longer be necessary? Wouldn’t this have been a wiser course than setting into memory the antiquated commands of old legal codes that from within a better society would have no place? I forgot where I found this latin sentence, but it is from a medieval author, and its sense is relevant:

Quorsum requireretur legum prudentia, cum abessent mali mores, ex quibus haud dubie bonae leges prognatae sunt? Whereto would be required the prudence of the laws, when evil habits would be absent, from out of which not doubtfully good laws are derivative?

And even (((Thomas More))) in his proto-communist Utopia makes his hero Hythlodaeus (a greek pun meaning: distributor of nonsense) speak the following regarding the Utopian islanders:

leges habent perquam paucas. sufficiunt enim sic institutis paucissimae. quin hoc in primis apud alios improbant populos, quod legum interpretumque uolumina, non infinita sufficiunt. ipsi uero censent iniquissimum; ullos homines his obligari legibus; quae aut numerosiores sint, quam ut perlegi queant; aut obscuriores quam ut a quouis possint intelligi. They have very few laws. For thus do very few fit their purposes. That this firstly near other peoples do they disapprobate, that not even infinite volumes of laws and interpreters suffice. They themselves however account most wrong, any men to be bound by these laws, which either may be more numerous than so that they may be able to be read; or more obscure than so that from whomever they may be able to be understood.

These were nearly medieval writers and in them we find disesteem for the structure of the old traditional legality then surviving in their own time. I wonder what they would have thought at hearing of scholars being “chained to their desks” copying to mind sentence after sentence of older legal decision? And here in conceptual sympathy with them I can ask: what is the purpose in rote memorizing almost infinite pages of ancient ionic greek verse that promotes violence and war? Why are we glorifying learning of examples of fictional literature that teach that bloodshed is virtuous? Is the use of this new odyssey movie further jewish cultural conditioning to mock whites and prepare our young to die in another pointless ZOG war?