No.224589
I pay high taxes to support other people's children. Single workers are taxed to death and discriminated. I'm fucking tired of this shit. Instead of taking it out on the sick,weak and poor we need to tax the rich and set some 1 baby per couple policy. And NO i don't wanna FUCKING PAY FOR IT!!
No.224590
The majority of the public spending is not on welfare though, in most western countries it is within 20%-30% of the GDP
So they got money for war but can't feed the poor
No.224591
You can have welfare or you can have open borders.
You can't have both. Countries will have to choose one or become insolvent.
No.224592
>>224591What about wizards? Third world wizards should be able to come here and receive welfare
No.224612
Normalniggers would rather pay for the invading brown subhumans to keep fucking up their first world countries instead of paying a wiz or two a little salary to allow them to live an easier life. Disgusting.
t. third world wizard
No.224613
>>224612Except the normalniggers are not inviting them, your average normalnigger is extremely racist, the elites invite them cause they know that brown people are desperate and will take all the abuses and not stand up and work for jobs that don't pay anything.
No.224619
>>224613You used Occam's razor correctly. It all boils down to money and hierarchical control.
Desperate third worlders don't know their rights. They wont demand better pay or work conditions. They wont demand holidays or paid sick leaves.
They're the perfect class of subhuman slaves to
be exploited by holders of capital who want to maximize their capital gains.
The native proletariat and middle class is useless to these people once they manage to sneak in a large enough amount of third worlders.
Welfare cuts will be hard and fast, and they practically want to kill off native (ex.) workers with a consciousness.
There is no way to stop this scenario from advancing except 1700s style France. That means actively finding out where those holders of capital live, taking their family members for ransom, killing them off in masses.
No.224621
>>224590It's quickly rising and will soon be around 40% of GDP due to increased pensions and increased NEETbux. Plus let's be real, a good 20% of bureaucrats are functionally parasites like NEETs. Combine that with the kids abusing student loans to delay their childhood and you literally have 50% of the money being literal money transfers.
Healthcare is a form of welfare too in my opinion, and that's like a good 15-20%. Shit like infrastructure, police and defence increasingly make up a small portion of the actual budget.
The difference is the actual elites are talking about it's unsustainability now, and are discretely cutting the benefits they can get away with cutting, like winter fuel allowances. Something is going to give, I don't know who they'll kick off welfare, or where, but they will somewhere.
>>224593>I will never comprehend wizzies or neets who are right wing, maybe they are wagies.I'm a NEET and realize I'm a social parasite. I'm morally principled I suppose, I live like this because it's available, but I don't try to morally justify it. However I have relatives, usually succubi, who are the same sort of fiscal parasites, and they literally make a big deal about voting Labour for more money. They make out the rich don't pay their fair share and they deserve more, it's absolutely delusional, if you break it down the rich basically pay all the tax in this country.
>>224612Other way around honestly. There simply aren't that many white male welfare leeches in first world countries. It's literally a succubus and brown person thing. What's fucking it up for the welfare system is every second Somalian is claiming to have autistic children for more NEETbux, who in turn can go on disability.
No.224622
>>224619I don't think you understand the problem of third world countries. India actually has government workers mobilizing in their own interests as unions, except they're not fighting for better working conditions, they're fighting to get paid to do nothing all day.
The idea that thirdies suck up abuse and take it while whites stand up for themselves is delusional. The second they are able to, thirdies become abusive, take bribes, lazy out at work all day. In India being a social parasite is seen as a success story, people are proud and brag about having a job where they do nothing and take bribes. These people come to first world countries and find success, but then complain about how the average westerner doesn't kiss his ass or give them the respect they deserve.
No.224623
>>224622That is so not true in my opinion to be honest, I have legit seen people work 12+ hours till their body collapsed in the heat for less than 2 dollars a day. In India being a white collar worker is seen as a success story, however most of the country does menial jobs. Most third worlders that I have met in the US have only one complaint and that is that healthcare was better in their own native countries. With that said there is certainly a culture within third world people to abuse the people below them and to take advise from the people above them, cause that's all they know.
No.224624
>>224623*take abuse and act submissive to the the people above them
No.224627
Third world wizards are our brothers.
The brown, black and yellow mages are our compadres. They are no less then and are always welcome.
White wizards have more in common with brown wizards than white knights
No.224629
>>224627So much wrong wrapped up in so much Redditspacing.
No.224640
>>224627Despite living in very different cultures, I can relate more with Indians virgin men and their worries, than with any euro sex-having normie.
No.224663
>>224627OP here
I don't mind third world wizzies who are genuinely wizzies. We're all wizzies here, but we have to be honest. Our comfy white country NEETbux are being threatened by non-white mass migration, now we have brown normalfags who are able to work, just leech. It's an existential risk to our way of life.
Ideally all wizzies would get NEETbux as reparations from the normoids, brown and white. But we don't live in that world.
>>224623That's because they lost and they're at the bottom. That's how thirdie countries work, the strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must. Those with comfy government jobs who network themselves into the right position start collecting bribes, fucking around and act like feudal princes. Those that can't are berated and slave driven.
No.224666
>>224663Well, I'll tell you something as a third world wizard who grew up wishing to live in the United States or some other country where I could earn some money. And my opinion is going to be in the very minority here. But the thing is, I have legitimately not found a way to immigrate legally (not looking for illegal trouble cause the last thing I want is to go in jail, and I doubt a weak willed subhuman like me can survive jail)
Like I have no idea how so many brown people even managed to get into EU and NA, I legitimately can't comprehend it, the only way that I see to immigrate to the United States or Europe is, either you're an extremely skilled person like a doctor or engineer, have lots of money to pursue degree from the West, or you already work for a foreign company in your native country that sends you to the West. At least that is the information that I gather from your embassies.
For someone like me there is no way to immigrate to the West, and I legit can't comprehend when first worlders tell me how unskilled third world people live in the West, like I can understand if they immigrated illegally. Like when I look at the statistics some of the richest and white-collar workers in the United States are Nigerians, Indians, Chinese, etc. so it means that most of these people were already skilled despite the memes to make so much money in a country like the Untied States, and they even outperform whites, American colleges are absolutely full of Asians especially the Chinese. And Indians, Chinese, Filipinos, Nigerians have a very small crime rate as well in countries like United States and United Kingdom, this is not to say that all people are nice.
But then I have legit seen what first world people here tell me that how third worlders ruin things for them, like I don't understand, if anything these people pay disproportionately more taxes, like Indians make up to what 2% of the US population but pay 4% of the taxes or something? I don't quite remember, some republican congressman or senator said something about it. And you would be surprised how much right leaning immigrants themselves tend to be.
Maybe illegal immigrants or refugees or diversity quotas have fucked your countries. But I guess what I am trying to say is that no one here needs to worry about a third world wizard immigrating to the West and taking their NEETbuxx because there is no way for poor people like me in the third world to move to the West legally and most of the people like 99% of them won't risk their lives to even move illegally to the West, although they will try to game the system and exploit the loopholes, and quite frankly over time the idea of moving to the West for me personally has lost it's charm, because I have realised that I wouldn't have a very good life there either.
And of course the other thing is how the system works tbh, because globalisation and outsourcing of labour to third world countries have changed dynamics, and I hate to say this but the third worlders have been reduced to such destitution that they work for less than 2 American Dollars a day just to be alive, you cannot expect someone so poor to argue for reform, health benefits, better wages, etc. because they literally do not have any other option. And the world right now is not what it used to be earlier where you had revolutions or significant redistribution of wealth or anything because countries, even the the third world countries have governments that are not easy to topple, thanks to modern technology, military, intelligence, and a centralised system. So there would be no redistribution of wealth or anything, so the people just accept their fates. And no changes take place. And they just hope that they would do better in the current system, by engaging in rat race.
No.224669
More "Third world wizzes" coming to our English Western board to convince us Wizards that we need to accept and respect them. Yawn!
No.224670
>>224669How is "us" contingent on whiteness? We're on wizchsn, not stormfront.
No.224672
>>224670Every website made by Whites in the West is exclusively for Whites unless it specifically states otherwise. Your [i]open-minded "we're all equal here because we're all virgins"['i] mindset is an inorganic result of the forced globalization of the internet.
No.224673
>>224672d-do dogs count as white?
asking for uhh.. m-my dog! hehe..
btw sieg heil! totally!
No.224678
>>224669What are you high on? Most third world wizzes are poor like I said and do not have the means to immigrate. Stop being an alarmist.
No.224680
>>224678It's not about immigration you dense idiot. Our English board should not need to appeal to and service their culture and its unique issues because they are too dumb and lazy to make their own board. They may be physically landlocked to their own countries, but that doesn't mean our board should de facto host their shitposting, low-effort threads, and crab BAAWing. Imagine some fat blue-haired liberal leftist with a minor understanding of the Japanese language thinking it's OK to go make zitself at home on a Japanese hikikomori board because ze happens to be to afraid to leave zis basement because of evil street Nazis or something. Ridiculous! Zis unique type of "suffering" is not at all relatable to the Japanese hikikomori. So why should ze be allowed to stay? Just because ze's too afraid to post on zis own country's shut-in board after someone called zim a faggot? Because zis country's board shut down after the admin killed xerself?
Not every website needs to be "for everyone" and you'd think those posting on a site where the #1 rule is that you'll be banned if you ever touched a female would understand this. Third worlders need to go make their websites. Them coming to Western sites to stink it up with their trash posts is a perfect analogue to what they do in real life. They can't build or maintain their own spaces so they invade and abuse Western places.
No.224681
>>224680The internet doesn't really have borders and if they fit in with the culture then they fit in the culture regardless of where their meatbag resides or what shade of of leather their corporal form is wrapped in.
While it's true that someone who doesn't fit the overall board culture doesn't belong, just because someone is from a certain place doesn't automatically mean they don't fit the culture.
No.224682
>>224681>The internet doesn't really have bordersIt does. Our rule 1 is a border. Our "English only" rule is a border.
>if they fit in with the culture then they fit in the cultureBut they don't fit in with the culture.
>While it's true that someone who doesn't fit the overall board culture doesn't belongThanks for agreeing with me.
>just because someone is from a certain place doesn't automatically mean they don't fit the culture.The fact that they're from a different culture means that they don't fit the culture. They're of a different culture because where they were born has raised them in a different culture.
it still begs the question of why they need to piggyback on those who can make and operate a board while not making their own for themselves?
No.224683
>>224682>Our "English only" rule is a border. where is that rule? I can't find it
also the third world wizzies do write their posts in English as far as I can tell
>someone who doesn't fit the overall board culture doesn't belongand what even is wizchan's culture, aside from male virginity?
"Western" as in North American or West European?
I have bad news for you, the admin is Brazilian, and you're deluded if you think most posters are "Western"
don't like reading losers' posts? read the FAQ, it says "Wizardchan caters exclusively to male virgins who may be a NEET or hikikomori,
and who may be afflicted by physical or mental illnesses such as depression and social anxiety."
why don't you make your own imageboard for le supreme Western gentlemen? you have much more capacity for making your own website than losers, some of whom have nowhere else to go
>it still begs the question of why they need to piggyback on those who can make and operate a board while not making their own for themselves?why shouldn't they? for what purpose? to fulfill your fantasy about le superior hwite nazism?
why do you want to divide the community like that? an 18+ male virgin is an 18+ male virgin, there are no other conditions for posting here
No.224687
>>224683>where is that rule? I can't find itThere was no point writing it down because those who don't speak English wouldn't be able to read it
>third world wizzies>wizziesJuvenile googoo gaga speak
>and what even is wizchan's culture, aside from male virginity?Newfag now pulling the "Wizchan HAS NO culture so ANY culture can come and post"
>I have bad news for you, the admin is BrazilianThis was disproven
>you're deluded if you think most posters are "Western"I never said they are. If anything most posters at this point are from outsiders.
>don't like reading losers' posts?Never said that. I don't like having to read how bad Crabjeet feels because his favorite shitting street got taken over by Chaddeep. I don't like seeing posts about how even working 50 hours each week isn't enough for a wizard to move out get buried by some Easteuro communist spamming that under Communism we wouldn't have to work. I don't like discussing how nice Christmas is only to have Muhamed insist that only Islamists can be wizards because the Koran says that succubi aren't allowed to see your dick.
>some of whom have nowhere else to goThen they make their own website… Retard.
Reading the rest of your post, I can see you're one of the Easteuro invaders. Go back to the child porn on your slavic roach website.
>>224686Western the cultue, not Western the place on the globe.
No.224690
>>224687Whatever it is that you have done with your life or your body has fried your brain. Share your stories and experiences so that others can learn and not succumb to the same fate as yours. Honestly at this point you would be better off making your own website and range banning everyone outside of whatever country you live in, ban VPNs, and implement a system where you personally approve the users based upon their DNA tests to filter out ethnic immigrants, high school transcripts to make sure they were raised in the West, have them take a proctored exam to prove that they are infact Western. And when you're done doing that you can finally discuss your wizardly matters at peace.
No.224691
>>224682>It does. Our rule 1 is a border. Our "English only" rule is a border.Do you think only one country has the English language?
I am hoping you aren't
that retarded.
>But they don't fit in with the culture.Oh, you are
that retarded. Just because someone is from a certain place doesn't mean they by default don't fit the boards culture as you have been arguing. That is stupid.
>The fact that they're from a different culture means that they don't fit the culture. They're of a different culture because where they were born has raised them in a different culture.So what you are really saying is that you don't understand what subculture is.
Yeah, you are actually retarded.
No.224693
>>224690>at this point you would be better off making your own websiteMaybe one of the 300,000,000 Hindu "wizards" could make a site for their own kind.
No.224743
You are currently unfit for any work. Attempting to remain in the workplace would likely worsen his condition. A significant period of time away from work is required to support psychological and functional recovery.
No.225683
Fucking pay in apartments then!
Context: AFAIK, tower blocks in UK tend to go derelikt because junkies
No.225684
I mean, think about it. Why do people with net worths in the hundreds of millions to billions fanatically care about people cashing in a monthly 700 pound disability check?
They need more SLAVES. Who are forced to work for nothing but the cheapest possible slop food and a tent over their head in order to not starve or die from the elements.
These people are psychopaths.
No.225694
>>224666>like I don't understand, if anything these people pay disproportionately more taxes, like Indians make up to what 2% of the US population but pay 4% of the taxes or something? A lot of Indian success in western countries is down to the fact that they're insular and nepotistic. They come in with a caste mentality into an individualistic, atomized society and it's like being around easy sheep just waiting to be slaughtered. A large part of the success of white countries was our meritocratic individualism, but when we encounter collectivist cultures that individualism becomes a weakness. It has already played out with the Ashkenazi jews over the 20th century, they basically rule America because of WASP America's openness.
Indians operate as a cartel and lie, scam and cheat pretty regularly, even the successful ones lie, scam and cheat. The Patel cartel shored up the market for motels across America by exploiting federal loans and paying each other under the table. Tech companies are falling like dominos to Indian nepotism because we have no defence mechanism to protect ourselves against it. Indians regularly and openly weaponize accusations of racism to get what they want.
Plus the days of it being a token successful Indian here is long gone. Now in places like Canada and Australia we're seeing the average one and they're behaving in a completely anti-social manner. They'll steal ducks from ponds to eat, they'll brag about defrauding food banks and they actually do commit a lot of crime too.
This is the same reason India is so poor too, because they have no meritocratic individualism and you have thousands of different castes, dozens of different ethnic groups and several different religions all jockeying for influence in a zero sum game.
And trust me, these people do have an ethnic resentment towards us, at its core it's racial envy and grievances over past humiliations. They're actually obtaining positions of power over us and making that very clear. There was a Pakistani PM of Scotland who ranted in parliament about how Scotland was too white. The new Ugandan Indian candidate for New York laughs as he jokes about whites being all the servile waiting staff in a movie his parents made.
We have an ageing population here and we're seeing these migrant workers just show absolute contempt on us when they're in a position of power. Everyone who goes into the hospital witnesses third world migrant staff mistreat the vulnerable in there, Indian doctors will laugh sadistically as they have seizures or suffer in pain. Elderly whites are being punched around by Ngubu staff in rest homes. What the fuck do you think will happen to us elderly white wizzies one day if this sort of migration continues?
No.225697
Brutal, a wizchan poster clearly against NEETbux, Lmao, what's next? Start reading some redpill-bro self devolpment blog or something?
No.225700
Not every wizard is a poorfag.
No.225701
>>225697There's a reason political discussions are banned on most altchans.
No.225705
>>224588I can only speak for the United States, but to give my piece. I am a wizard, but also a engineer not a NEET. I'd give it until the death of the majority of boomers then we will see pensions killed off entirely to be replaced by 401ks and other pseudo mandatory savings plans (You won't be "forced" to pay in, just heavily taxed for not). and social security gutted at best if not killed off as well. Other social plans like Medicare will be gutted as well, expect the elderly and vulnerable to continue to be abused and bled dry. Insurance and retirement will continue to be privatized, but again pushed by the state through heavy taxation and fines.
Gibs will still exist as a pittance, given priority to "disenfranchised" peoples, aka a bribe to stop the usual suspects from rioting so often and of course encouraged for their votes. After all a sham democracy is still a democracy.
TLDR: Dark future ahead.
No.225706
I actually think the welfare state will be expanded, maybe even UBI in some places. Automation is taking away more and more jobs and they have to give people something to ameliorate the social unrest caused by widespread unemployment.
No.225722
>>225694I've just realized something.
The presence of a "cartel-like" nepotistic congregation (aka "a big family") can bring a bunch of people with assorted philosophies and life views. Which, in fact, can lead to creating a dangerous philosophy of some kind.
By not recognizing such behaiour as a proper philosophy, urban loners kinda miss on the ability to point their fingers at the anomaly of successful clans.
Say, if being a country bumpking was treated as a philosophy, then something called "countrybumpkin(g)ism" would be brought up here and there, circumventing an infamous "they ignnore us then they laugh at us then they fight us then we win" trick.
No.225725
>>225705Bloody cyberbollocks.
So, things are going fill dystopia?
…
I guess that's a good thing for my self-esteem.
Now, the same levels of stress and fear "because I wanna know what are you doing" as the ones my mother has put on me… will be the new norm. Good.
No.225726
Having money is the biggest safety net. You don't have to stress about job if you own your apartment. Its different if you have a comfy office job, but I've worked with maintenance workers that didnt even take breaks just to keep their shitty 16 euros/hour jobs. Their jobs were shitty but they kept doing all this because their previous jobs were even more shitty, hauling 20kg welding equipment up 5 floors at 7:15 AM just to weld some pipes for 7 hours.
I work a maintenance job atm. I take my breaks, if boss ever says "were going to need you to stop taking breaks" I'll just walk out. Meanwhile normies are paying half of their paychecks to rent
No.225740
>>225726They blocked my mom's bank account over 30 bucks in utility rent debt though.
No.225769
>>225741What's funnier, me mum is such a social normie she would never write a decent letter*, multiply it, send 1 copy; proceed to send the same letter to higher and higher instances.
*Letters of special type can be sent with a decription what kind of clause/document/request is inside.
Postal service is just not supposed to lose letters like this one.
Boom.
No.225859
>>225706Yeah, there has never been a time in human history when most of the population is unemployed. Most people could always count on finding work somewhere, unless they were disabled. Now with AGI, mass layoffs are inevitable. This will be interesting to see unfold.