/wiz/ - Wizardry

>>225305
thats a blackpill tho, the whitepill is that hopefully all of humanity gets destroyed in some big disaster once and for all and that no human will ever exist again.
the true whitepill is that this is inevitable

>>225309
"Blackpillers" think a flower blooming is a blackpill because inevitably that flower is going to die, so it might as well have never been planted. That is to say, nobody gives a flying fuck what blackpillers think about anything.

I believe the exact opposite, I think humanity has reached its peak in technology evolution and the lifestyle of the modern western citizen is highly unsustainable

These mere facts should concern you:
>the majority of the energy produced by society is still obtained from fossil fuels, there is no real alternative
>every year many lands become infertile and are no longer suitable for agricultural production, meaning there is less food every year while the demand keeps growing
>climate change will make life unbearable in the near future, the earth is becoming hotter every year
>it is statistically probable that one day there will be another global pandemic with high mortality rates, like COVID or black plague it may become a recurring event
>space travel is impossible for humans, our physics models do not make it possible for us to create gravity or bend space
>the global population is growing and economic/political instability is rising everywhere, the citizen of the future will own nothing
>pollution is everywhere and cancer is multiplying, we literally live immersed in microplastics, there is no way this planet will be restored
>homelessness is becoming a common thing, the housing market will become unaccessible for the majority of the population due to constant renovations, no more space for building new ones, property taxes, etc…

In the end, the citizen of the future will be poor, unhealthy and nomadic

>>225348
I forgot to say that crime is also rising in every major city, meaning the distrust and lack of empathy is turning into normality

>>225305
There's hope because the world we're in is utopian compared to 5,000 years ago. The secret sauce is in honesty and steady progress.

>>225310
> "Blackpillers" think a flower blooming is a blackpill because inevitably that flower is going to die, so it might as well have never been planted. That is to say, nobody gives a flying fuck what blackpillers think about anything.
Their point is to recruit unhappy people into anti-social behaviour. "Blackpillers" aren't the only black-pillers out there.

>>225348
> I believe the exact opposite, I think humanity has reached its peak in technology evolution and the lifestyle of the modern western citizen is highly unsustainable
The current economy is incredibly wasteful and is just a carb-filled meme consumerism. It's more than imperfect and can be improved but this requires informed consent.

Coca-Cola is just a meme in a container, so is McDonalds and Mt Dew etc. They all have calories and shit macros.

> space travel is impossible for humans, our physics models do not make it possible for us to create gravity or bend space
Humans don't need that anymore than cats need to be on Mars.

> the global population is growing and economic/political instability is rising everywhere, the citizen of the future will own nothing
The current world is increasingly unlivable and unsociable and so the birth rates are declining until we solve it. It's a self-correcting problem.

I just hope that normies don't invent a fascism "+ extra steps" to solve these problems or censor the planet into a hell.

>>225310
Pretty sure that is just garden variety nihilism/anti-natalism. The blackpill is about how looks affect various outcomes in your life.

How society develops does not change how the universe works. Duality, interdependence, transaction, inequality and entropy will ensure internal and external conflict anytime anywhere. Some forms of window dressing may be more to your liking than others, I'll give you that.

>>225383
>muh pessimistic view

Ridiculous

>>225305
AI is being trained by /wiz/-tier smart people.

dunno if its a true whitepill

>>225384
He isn't pessimistic, he is a realist.
Utopias and paradises can't exist anywhere in the infinite universe due to universal laws of physics and finite resources.

Every single sentient species that will ever exist, will risk their lives and bodies for resources and status. Equality cannot and does not exist. Everything in nature that can exploit something else, does it.

War, violence and bloody resource competition is a fundamental part of the universe. Existence itself is hell.

Even the heat death of the universe can't make you escape conflict, because given infinite time, the universe will first crunch and compress, then explode again.
This cycle of big crunches and big bangs is inevitable and you have no way of ever getting away from them.

Sooner or later after the latest big bang, life and planets suitable for life will develop and evolve all around the universe.
And you'll be born to some creature fighting for its' existence. Fighting for nutrition, safety, status and shelter.

There is no escape. Even suicide is futile except as a personal character reroll. You're here forever in some form. The system is incredibly sadistic, evil and malevolent. Do everything you can within your current life cycle to make it as tolerable or beautiful as possible. You could be a street kid in Bangladeshi waste fills next round.

We don't matter

>>225392
>We don't matter
The normals, the crabs and the succubi can't help but project all kinds of ideologies on this statement. A wizard just states what he sees clearly. That's how you know.

>>225393
shit.

maybe the very /wiz/ardness of mine is a good trait when it comes to sending important claims to Sportloto.

On a personal level im a fat sexless hikki in his mid 30s diagnosed schizo who will die alone.

on a world level?

dont even get me started on climate change and the chaos thats going to bring

humanity is fucked

>>225458
bump
AI will make you more relevant

>>225305
Pic related is the biggest whitepill about the far future. It's possible to abolish suffering forever just by genetically engineering everyone to be as happy as possible.

https://www.hedweb.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Pearce_(philosopher)

Ways the heat death of the universe might be survivable

"Whitepill" and it's a bunch of sci-fi tech that will only be possible after our deaths if at all. Even AI is just going to automate email jobs at best.

>>227496
AI will bring zero benefit to moneyless non-owning classes or the unemployed.

If anything it will accelerate political rhetoric by billionaire lobbyists and proxies to lock these people away or let them starve since "they can't take care of themselves".

They will never share profits or fund a universal basic income for people displaced by AI. What will happen in reality is they don't give a shit and will actively fight for policies that ensure you get nothing and they pay as little tax as possible.

>>227499
You're dense. AI driven cabs already overtook human driven taxis in several US cities.

the future is basically going down two paths.

1. dystopia techno feudalism where the poor are worse than peasants and the rich are immortal

2. a communist utopia where the rich pass out thier money to the poor through various taxes, ubi, charties.

>>227511
so what then?

>>227511
>communist utopia
That makes about as much sense as "a dry rain forest" or "a heterosexual Discord user"

>>227510
Really? I saw a video the other day of waymos impeding traffic because the internet got disconnected or something and they just stopped in the middle of the street.

>>227518
true cum-sm has never been tried


AND Marx pretty much was not a fan of revolutions - he expected capitalists to realise they're overproducing so much stuff they might have handed some out to The G-Man in exchange for a safety net of sorts, leading to the world where scarcity is an exception thing and not the norm.

>>227517
feudalism or slavery depending if the country's war-torn or not, humans are hirarchical and males are greedy, they want the largest harems possible, especially underage succubi, as proven by epstein and the richest man in the world's obsession to have as much offspring as possible, says he wants to be compared to genghis khan

>>227532
>males are greedy
and succubi paradoxically insecure -> feminism

>humans are hirarchical
the greedy males depend on each other

so is it more a gender ratio problem then?

p.s.
>the richest man in the world's obsession to have as much offspring as possible, says he wants to be compared to genghis khan
autism & performative darwinism

Didn't you post this on /leftypol/

I don't think so, just because the man theoretically can stop being aggressive and repulsive won't stop him from ending up in prison or death.
Humanity as a whole seems to be moving towards some kind of soulless tech-dystopia ruled by some pseudo-intelligence.

>>225305
Disagree. I don't see any reason to believe that humans will be capable of reigning in the negative consequences of technological progress before it leads to some kind of doomsday cascade. Essentially all the points >>225348 said. I mean 50 years ago people were already warning about the negatives of our current lifestyle and all we've done is lean even harder in that direction. Or rather the powers that be have.