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 No.226113

I need your wisdom. I am approaching mid 20s KHHV and have no friends. Went neet after high school for a few years because depression and loneliness broke me and maybe I had foresight that there was no point in going to college so I pretty much gave up on life because I felt like life gave up on me first. The only good things I got going for me are that I have a job now and I have good parents so there is no drama or uneasiness about being home which allows me to at least save up all the money I make while living with them. Apart from that I have no social life, no skills and I never matured because I simply did not have those experiences like my peers (going out, meeting people, making friends, socialising, romantic partners, sex etc.) This is why I was reluctant to go to college or do anything because anything that comes to mind imo requires a certain foundation of experience in order for you to be accepted and fit in and be able to progress or interact. The connections and social aspect is key to wellbeing, happiness and success. As I get older isolation, lost youth and ineptitude will hurt more and more as I see people around me progress. The thing is I don't know what to do with my life. Should I play it safe and just spend all my 20s and 30s living with my parents, working, saving money and rotting in my room? I feel like I am missing out on enjoying life but I have nobody and I am afraid that if I tried to force myself into relationships/friendships I will end up hurt, used and waste my money to participate in soceity that doesn't actually care about me. Keep in mind I am from a slavic shithole and not america. Also moving out and living on my own sounds like a bad idea because I am very inexperienced and I am not smart or skilled and it's almost impossible to even get a job if you are qualified if you don't have the connections. I don't have social media and I live in a small rural town and maybe this is an irational fear and I hope it is but I was always afraid of people bullying me or talking shit behind my back so I don't like opening up or revealing any information about myself because people talk and they can use any and all information against me in some way. Sorry if this is not directly related to crabdom but it's a more broad question on how to cope with beings a loser and how can you tell what kind of a loser you are (failed normie or truecel etc.) and what is realistic goal and expectation because expectations and goals set by media and society is that you need to be above average, social climbing psychopath with a good career and great power/status and you need to have friends and you need to have girlfriends and if you don't that's weird and sad.

 No.226114

My advice would be to get off this site and never look back. You are still very young and have time to turn your life around. You are not that bad off, even if that seems like it. Don't turn it into a self fulfilling prophecy where you remain a 30 yo virgin because somebody told you to. Go out, meet new people. Your chances are slim, but you still have chances.

 No.226116

>>226113
>The thing is I don't know what to do with my life
if you dont figure this out, someone else will make the decisions for you and then you are a slave.
>saving money
money is fucking worthless these days and the amount you need to be truly free is impossible for most people most likely including you too.
if you somehow luck into money you will quickly realize that spending it is not that simple and it only buys you copes which lose potency with every purchase.
so dont make your life about collecting money, money is a tool to get you things that you truly want but not always, some things money just cant buy.
>I don't like opening up or revealing any information about myself because people talk and they can use any and all information against me in some way
every relationship with a succubus requires you to open up to the roastie and tell her everything about you, all the secrets, the things you are into etc.
in a way you have to make yourself completely naked to the roastie, emotionally and physically. otherwise there is no trust and if there is no trust then whats the point?
in 99.99% of relationships the roasties will use all of this against you, its true. if you dont want this its perfectly reasonable and fine.
>what is realistic goal and expectation
for a wizard the realistic goals are surviving, thriving and cultivating an interest in something and also to achieve self sustainability (your parents wont be around forever) and filling your days with joyful things that give you peaceand happiness.
in the best case scenario you live like this until old age or illness forces you to kill yourself.

 No.226121

>>226114
>Don't turn it into a self fulfilling prophecy where you remain a 30 yo virgin because somebody told you to.
Self-fulfilling prophecies are cults these days

 No.226122

In your case, you still have the option to move up at work (this to this to this and in a few years you're a project lead or manager, even at lamesauce entry level jobs). Also some people find out they're good at photography, like to travel, collect things, go on fishing trips, etc… Lots of options when young, and it can all be done while keeping to yourself too if you so choose (I'm a social anxiety case and I still have hobbies!).

 No.226974

>>226113
I went from neet to warehouse job to college to retail job to making and losing a lot of money gambling and back to neet now. On my first job I actually couldn't look people in the eyes let alone hold a conversation if the guy didn't have same degenerated interests as me. The biggest social improvement was on the retail job which was infested with succubi. I had no options because I was basically forced by environment to talk, so I had to learn from the colleagues who are experts in gossip and don't close their mouth ever. By spending 8h a day with different types of succubi I found there are some who will make your life hell and some who are somewhat reasonable, I learned their behavior patterns and what to avoid. Also met few of my old friends which opened some doors and led to new experiences.

My point is that you need challenge yourself beyond what is currently comfortable. However, you can't do that anyhow. If you have expectation and chase the outcome, by default you invite option of failure. If the outcome means a lot to you and stakes are high where failure is painful, you're going to operate in fear mode and either dip out or make it more likely to fail. You gotta find lowest hanging fruit that is challenging and doable enough but that you won't care much if you fail. You stack your wins which grow exponentially (really hard to understand). Idk what you do, but focusing on collecting experience of different things is good goal to have. You can't get experience from a book or internet but need to live it yourself.

 No.226976

>>226975
If you live in the west you're forced to interact with them since they are 50% of the human population. Doesn't mean any sex is going on especially for ugly guys like me.

 No.227019

>>226974

This. I started an electrician Job. Way Too much responsibility for me but im not emotionlly invested since I try my Best and Im not financially ruined if I fail. Doing something that challenges you just right is great advice though

 No.227030

>>227019
haha heres a tip for you.

You MUST carry around a device that short-circuits a disabled network since there is always THAT potato-headed dummy that would see a switch, tunnel-vision on it (ignoring the "MAINTENANCE" plaque), would flip the switch back on - with all the voltage going BZZZZZZZZZZT or some machinery going VROOOOOOOM on your body.


oh and a random tip on top of that: make some pink homemade "CAUTION DO NOT FLIP SOMEONE'S IN THE VOLTAGE AREA" stuff - screamng pink's "screaming" color drags some attention of such tunnel vision debiles like myself

 No.227207

>>226113
i'm 27. 25 is when it started getting really rough for me and others i've talked to have reported similar. you hit 25 and you're kind of officially beyond the boundary of "i'm still young things have time to turn around." you have to face the fact that your life is meaningless and miserable, you will never have a family or community (i don't mean wife and kids, i mean your parents/siblings/extended family/friends will grow apart and you'll be left alone except maybe your mom will still be around). you have to really come to terms with the fact that society has already collapsed basically. it's gonna be miserable. save your money for this period because if you're broke during it, it will be 10x worse. try to tune out of normie life, don't go on twitter or youtube, find copes (retro vidya, idk woodworking, writing, other hobbies). it will probably not be as bad for you, not being an american. your health will also tank. you won't be able to survive off tendies, you'll have to cook yourself balanced meals with real meat and vegetables and greens, your body will start rejecting processed food and junk food like doritos. you will have to spend like 1-2 extra hours of your day on this, and yeah cooking for 1 is miserable and the portions are often too small to even cook properly, but if you don't you will feel like pure shit.

basically your life will become miserable and there's nothing you can really do except try to mitigate any additional miseries like being in poor health or being broke. i always thought i would be dead by now. that was wishful thinking. like when you're depressed you think it's gonna kill you eventually, you can't even comprehend being alive in 5 years at the rate things are going, but that's not the case. the reality is just that depression makes you neglect yourself to the point where you're falling apart in 5 years and can barely function, but you will always end up surviving, that's the curse of life.

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 No.227221

I'm just going to focus on the college aspect of your post: if it's something that you want to do to, then just do it. Since you brought it up, it must be something on your mind. You don't require a 'foundation of knowledge', you are there to learn and get a paper so that you don't fall into some low-tier, low-pay, dead end job when you're older. Matter of fact, going to college and forcing yourself to be around people and interacting with them while you're young is the best course of action for you right now. If the social aspect doesn't work out, then who cares? At least you applied yourself through education. Don't let this website be a 'crab in the bucket' situation for you.

 No.227233

>>226113
You do not require foundations of anything to do anything

 No.227239

>The only good things I got going for me are that I have a job now and I have good parents
good
> I simply did not have those experiences like my peers (going out, meeting people, making friends, socialising, romantic partners, sex etc.)

well you're in your mid 20s it's never too late and you need no prior experience, unironically just talk about shit you like and ask about others background while sharing funny stuff or that you might think the other person will like when socializing and making friends. People love to talk about themselves…


>Should I play it safe and just spend all my 20s and 30s living with my parents, working, saving money and rotting in my room?

nah, it's boring as shit and unhealthy



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