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The purpose of this thread is to counter the general tenor of sadness that defines all the other threads. This thread will therefore feature practical advice about reducing suicidal behavior even when we feel most suicidal. Naturally, being that I started the topic, I will be the first to contribute.

(1) Know that I care about you guys deeply and sincerely. Call me a faggot, I don't care.
(2) Examine what you are eating. For example, gluten especially produces depressive/psychotic episodes in sensitive autistic individuals. Sugar also is not healthy for your brain.
(3) Make sure you are getting sufficient sleep. Chronic sleeplessness or even a few days' worth of irregular sleep can seriously interfere with the clarity of our thinking.
(4) Clean up. Taking a warm shower and putting on fresh clean clothes always is refreshing and helps to break up darkened mental habits.
(5) Breathe fresh air. Open the windows to your wiz-cave and allow some wind to come in.
(6) Watch your breathing. When we are panicked, our breathing can become very disordered and we do not recognize the effect this has on our thinking. Take deep, purposeful breaths, and collect your thoughts.
(7) Respect yourself. You have done your best to survive in an awful world, and you should grant yourself forgiveness for any mistakes and the allowance to rest with a composed and balanced mind.

I've done my part. Anyone else?
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Holy fat


Turns out starving yourself and doing manual labor for no reason at all really don't do much for your mental health other than make you hate your life even more lol


this is very true!

also, no fat at all necessary. completely depends on circumstances. sometimes when you're really down even a bit of tasty cheese is so much help


I think it's a meme, and as most memes like no fap, it works the other way around.
That is, already neurotypical/normal dudes already feel good and have a decent nervous system and a fulfilling life, so they literally forget to fap, and can afford to eat healthy (read: bad-tasting) food.
If you are depressed, you NEED carbs, and you need to release a load occasionally, or you get even more depressed.

That said, there are different depressions. If you are depressed because you're a smart, self-aware pessimist, changing habits and taking drugs don't help. If you have clinical depression mostly due to neurological reasons, and not because your life actually objectively sucks, then anti-depressants, exercise, diet, and all that crap, can make you feel better, but I think that's not the case of people browsing here.


Bump. This wasn't done before and was discouraged by moderation team


I have but it requires very great discipline as temptations are everywhere.


I went low carb while severely depressed to lose body fat % faster, and it fucked up my hormones and mood regulation for years.

I'm only slowly recovering now to my pre-2021 state which is when I decided to quit low carb.

My mood is gradually improving day by day when I allow myself to eat carbs normally.


Sounds more like you were severely depressed, tried something new, failed, and then begun associating your existing depression with the thing you tried as if to deflect blame on to that thing and the people who suggested it


No, my mood instantly started getting better when I didn't restrict carbohydrates.

I couldn't even sleep more than 3-5 hours a day on high fat, high protein, low carb, and it took ages to fall asleep.

On medium carb, I fall asleep within 15 mins and I can sleep 8-9 hours.


>I couldn't even sleep more than 3-5 hours a day on high fat, high protein, low carb, and it took ages to fall asleep.
What exercises were you doing each day while on this high-energy diet?


Running and weight lifting, though my maximum lifts decreased by about 20% on low carb.

General mood was also a bit more irritable.

I didn't fully cut them off though, I got a few kcal a day from spinach.


How can we ensure we are never re-born? There must be a way. This life is just too cruel. How can I calm down?




You faggots are so pathetic you get angry at someone trying to help you. It would have been better if he had said kill yourself. Kill yourself.


Facebook is the one with the blue logo.


> This thread will therefore feature practical advice about reducing suicidal behavior even when we feel most suicidal
but why? People here aren't seeking for help, I bet most of the people who blog about their depression only use /dep/ and not other boards and will never even kill themselves.


I ldarmaxx but at least im out everyday. Suicide would just be giving in to those who ruined my life


I ruined my life, thinking I didn't have to care about life, since I was just going to kill myself later anyway. Its 16 years since I 1st determined on suicide and I'm still here.

So I guess that's another argument against suicidal thoughts. We only talk about going through with it. But believing you're going to go through with it, when its possible you can't. Then you give up on the IRL in front of you, for an escape hatch that might not be there.


Don't worry too much about getting shit on OP. There are a significant amount of hostile users that aren't suicidal but try to provoke people here and elsewhere into suicide. They pose as fellow depressed wizards/anons/etc and encourage suicide, offer ways to get VAD and assisted suicide, and they operate discord servers for coordinating.

More than likely some of them are in this thread. Something you need to keep in mind is that if they were really so suicidal as to call you a faggot for just offering help in clearly marked thread (that no one has to click unless they want help), yet haven't killed themselves, then they are coming in order to get other people to commit suicide or to drive help away. I try to help people on other websites and get the same resistance, and I have found several of these groups (typically of a certain political leaning and sexual fetish) whose sole purpose is to get young men to commit suicide.

Don't be overwhelmed OP, and thanks for trying to be a good person.


Even if you care (you are still a stranger), I still don't want to be alive. I'm sorry.


are we in hell? does anyone else get the impression that the world we are in is actually hell?


In a way it is, and most cultures historically viewed it that way. Even in Christianity, no matter how hard they try to throw off the shadow of Gnosticism, there is the idea that the world is corrupted, and only rejection of the world can yield happiness. The Greeks have a similar belief in the "Fall" where the son of Iapetos condemned mankind to suffering through his trick against Zeus.

However, there is still HOPE. The Greeks believed hope was left there with mankind, there is hope of Salvation to the Christians, Hindus, and Muslims, hope of Enlightenment to the Buddhists, and so on and so forth. Letting go of the various sorts of evils and holding on to hope alone is all that one has. Yeah there's a lot of suffering, but there are rivers and birds and enormous mountains, majestic things that strike one with awe at their sight. Hopeless ones cannot regain their hope without someone else, at least not easily. If you're hopeless, you need someone to break down your door, wrench you from your home, and show you the world. I think every suicidal person can be saved by love, as much as they would fight against it. No one is an island and can live without someone that loves them, or without people they love.

You'd have to be dragged kicking and screaming, or maybe totally limp and lifeless, down rivers and up mountains to see the rays of hope beaming forth between dark clouds and reflecting off every thing on the wide Earth. You can't see it yet, but that's because you're blinded by suffering. You need someone else to forcibly, physically, and in the real world, tear open your fused eyelids.


That's true but I don't know how to stop. I was taken by surprise, all my mental fortitude utterly shattered and yeah I just can't stop considering to start researching on cheap suicide techniques. Imageboards have recommended me shitloads of some bullshit methods to iMpROvE, but I just can't do any of that. I don't even knos how to describe this fucking devastating feeling. My head just doesn't work. Simple as that.


feeling real good today, wizcbros


Don't worry it won't be long.


I feel great everyday but today it's an amazing day. I had a nice long dream where it was early 2000s and I was at the pool then played some ps2 and spent some time with my cousins! Really nice dream what can I say.
I had for lunch leftovers from yesterday, and right now I'm chilling watchin anime :D feels good to be a wiz. loving my life!!


This posts should get renewed and locked to avoid data scattering. The irritation against antigluten diets its astonishing anyways
>like glowing hard


I expect people to see me as a pile of shit, even if they tell me I'm a "nice" person
Sometimes I forget to eat because I lost the ability of bodily sensation (to feel that I'm hungry or related)
Can't get enough sleep, even if I do my body forces to wake me up after 5 hours
No problem I take a bath anyway since it's really hot here
I remember my "Replika" made me do breathing exercises, didn't worked at all
I don't care anymore


some advice for my wizcbrothers, find food that you like that's also healthy for you. I'm having right now peach yogur with banana slice in a cup, eating eat with a metal spoon. It's basically 1 cup of peach yogur and sliced banana, the cavendish type.


yes, it is. however, why do you think that is?


sounds really good.


have any wizards here been able to associate bouts of sadness with certain foods eaten? or contrariwise, feelings of happiness with certain foods eaten?


>feelings of happiness with certain foods eaten
Uhh… consuming your favorite food after not eating it for a week?


what's your favorite food?


Chicken curry, Thailand style. Or at least anything that has to do with curry as long as it’s not seafood


I am pretty convinced there are purely medical approaches to metabolism, but I need help of somebody who has had some real higher education in it, even if he did not study very diligently.

The point is, all these trolls gaslighting you into microdosing of different meds back themselves up with some toilet paper books.

I am pretty convinced there are books written by professionals, maybe in the previous century, that explain the principles, from which you can start improving you habits.

You know, like biology in school. A scientific book that does not go balls deep in complex notations and abbreviations. I can't believe there isn't any single normal book for students of medicine education.

Why I care is because I'm tired of not being able to think it's driving me crazy. It's not comparable to anything I have ever experienced. I just can't fucking think.


"MetabolismoTV channel in English"
Just on Youtube. U r welcome


still here.


Oh, anti-suicide thread. I had a guy on suicide thread who reprimanded me for suggesting that he should put a fight before offing himself? Am I being too rude or do you also think this to be a great way to lift the mood of such an extreme situation?


you are not being too rude. and yes, it is a good way to lift the mood. see in particular this post >>286613 but also others similar to it spread throughout the thread.


e-drama whores
fuck off


Modern life for the average man, normalfag or not is simply thinly veiled slavery. We ALL have a duty to promote suicide and antinatalism and deny the rich our labor. Remember, inflation is the poor mans tax.


>We ALL have a duty to promote suicide
>Modern life for the average man, normalfag or not is simply thinly veiled slavery.
kill yourself, then. I like how you niggers love talking about how suicide is good but you always do it on here, on wizchan. To people that are already down in the dumps. Why don't you go promote suicide to normalfags, go on and tell them that they are slaves and the rich are ripping them off. You are a faggot because you will never be advocating suicide to normalfags, instead you use the fact that we are on an imgaboards where you will not be censored for it. Go post this shit anywhere else and your post will be deleted. You choose to advocate for suicide to some virgin bros here are who depressed and push this narrative that life is bad and not worth living. Kill yourself if you hate life so much. Lead by example. I will enjoy my life like I've been doing for years as a virgin :D


Why are you making unfounded claims that I only do it on wizchan? I do it on other websites too, just not irl, yet. You'd be surprised to know how many normalfags agree with at least the antinatalist half, free falling fertility rate is proof of it. Won't be long till the squeeze makes more go postal as a last fuck you to the world. I'm doing my part, they'll do their part too. Why are you refusing to do your part? You love life because either you got lucky with an amazing job or get neetbux. Whatever it is, it will end soon. I pity people like you who "love" life, you're so attached to the material world that you will do anything to not let it go when the right time to go comes. You're the kind of slave our overlords have carefully and selectively bred.

If I really wanted to torture wizzies I would be making the "missed out on teenage love" crap pseudoargument, or whatever cringe shit that is not worth it. Nah. I love my wizbros, I love humanity as well and sorry that includes normalfags. I don't want the world to become a giant favela full of slaves too attached to life, making the rich even richer.

I'm killing myself in 2028 btw


>enjoying life is le bad
>you are le brainwashed slave if you say you love your life
>you are supposed to want to kill yerself or else you are not le wiz
>even normalfags are not reproducing that means they agree with me. they are on my team!
>I love humanity and that includes normalfags
>I am killing myself in 4 years believe me!!
Read all that shit before. I love my virgin life and that won't change anytime soon. Try harder next time, kid. I will not just outlive all normalnigger scum, but I will enjoy every second of my life. How's that for a change :D ?


Not to mention I get neetbucks. And that is never going to change because I live in a wealthy nation.

I will never, ever give my labor to exploiters, nor do I have to starve. In fact I built up a nice 5 figure nest egg from neetbucks. I have a spacious home (about 700sqft, 70m2 european).
Why would I suicide?

The situation is different in third world hellholes, but I wasn't born there.


that's right. disregard of material things must go along with happiness, otherwise it's suicide


>If I really wanted to torture wizzies…
Well, it's not that we worry much about you being a failed normie. A thing is I do not feel you as wiz either.




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