No.277011
the reason why posters here are suicidal is because they're not getting their daily dose of sunlight and rectally administrated vitamin supplements, you really are onto something OP
No.277012
>>277007>(2) Examine what you are eating. For example, gluten especially produces depressive/psychotic episodes in sensitive autistic individuals. Sugar also is not healthy for your brain. you improovers always loose me with this.
There is literally no person who has done anything of value throught entire history who hasn't eaten carbs.
Like, all the pro athletes all the big scientists (Tesla, Newton, Einstein) all the big tech guys, writers, philosophers, inventors, anyone who has done anything meaningfull has eaten diet rich in carbs and sugars (fruits). And some of them were even vegeterians.
Literally find me one person or athlete besides Joe Rogan who has done anything significant and is on keto diet/low carb diet. There is none.
My question is; if carbs and sugars are so bad for the brain how come all the people I mentioned ate them and strive in every aspect of their lifes? How come Newtons or Einstens or Pitagoras or Teslas or Steve Jobs brain hasn't rotten from eating carbs?
No.277014
>>277013
>no argument
I accept your defeat. Take more supplements bro; it obviously isn't working.
No.277016
>>277015
>presented with an argument
>lmao u stupid
>if i call him stupid that means i win lmao
go eat some sugar bro; this no sugar diet is obviously making you giga retarded. like, nigger tire retarded. but again, when i say people doing low carb diets they are all retarded so you are good to go.
No.277018
>just a bunch of people fighting
Cool thread.
No.277021
It's a chicken egg problem. I have no problem taking care of myself when I'm not depressed. The problem is when you're in a bout of depression, and I cannot stress this enough YOU.DON'T.GIVE.A.SHIT. And that's the problem. In my experience this type of advice is only ever useful on the very cusp of depression, when you're already on your way out anyway. Going to the park and have a walk, get back and take a shower does help "settle" your way out but that's about it.
I never had severe depression but there are people on their worse who can't give enough of a shit to get up to take a piss. They just wet themselves. This is how bad it can get. I would like to see you manage to make someone in that state watch out for their diet. Actually I know you couldn't, even doctors just make them wear a diaper.
No.277023
>>277007(8)Sungazing
(9)Short, intense exercise to prevent aging
(10)Fasting often, or at least having a properly trophologic diet
(11)Moving from a job to another until stops feeling like crap.
>>277012Read "Grain Brain". Wheat today is not the same than it was and also industrial sugars did not exist. Yet it's kinda loose to assume that a healthy diet is needed to actually serve that purpose, many familiars of mine eat horribly and they do not have issues. The anti-carb thing is mostly for schizos with a sensitive gut, even if it still can profit others.
>>277013Let it be, maybe just trolling us.
Remember the warp wanings:
https://endchan.org/pdfs/res/326.htmlThe body should go first for individuals with temper and situations like ours.
No.277028
>>277007The people who can do these things aren't the ones who need help.
No.277032
>>277030
Yes, there are people who are that sad.
No.277033
>>277028how do you know if you can't do these things if you don't try?
No.277035
What's very important is to work on how you deal with negative emotions and try to be aware of your thought patterns.
I noticed that I often catastrophize and turn small or non-issues into big problems in my head. For example something as insignificant as not reaching a high rank in a video game made me way too upset. I also always assume the worst possible scenario will happen which leads to unnecessary anxiety. I also avoid dealing with negative emotions which leads to procrastination and then eventually to dealing with even worse emotions.
No.277045
This forum is for depression and despair. This thread is more appropriate for /wiz/, I've seen threads like those there in the past.
No.277048
the people on this site deliberately cultivate an atmosphere of self-hating depressive negativity and encourage suicidal behavior for the lulz. It's a sick circlejerk for kiwis and cliquer faggots who'd rather goad randos into killing themselves for the amusement of it than accept not everyone on earth is a normie
No.277049
>>277021>The problem is when you're in a bout of depression, and I cannot stress this enough YOU.DON'T.GIVE.A.SHIT.100% correct. I've never pissed myself during depression, but I have neglected my responsibilities and personal health because I didn't care to push for anything. Things like eating healthy (or eating at all) and exercising are about the furthest things from my mind when I'm in a suicidal depression. Lifting weights doesn't undo the psychological damage from my emotionally abusive childhood. Soaking in some sunlight doesn't free me from having to interact with normalfags. Adjusting my diet doesn't undo the decades'-worth of societal and cultural degradation all around me. Breathing fresh air more frequently doesn't fix an economy designed to bleed people try and perpetuate poverty. And most of all, no supplement, workout, diet, or rhetorical platitudes are going to magically fill my life with a desperately needed sense of purpose.
You see, that is precisely what makes these self-help style threads so silly and basically pointless: they utterly fail to address and fix the root issue of most suicidal forms of depression, which is a lack of purpose in life. Without an definable goal of a grandiose nature to strive towards, life itself is little more than wasted time. The true struggle of it all is that most worthwhile pursuits in life have been blocked off or broken down to nothing. Want to serve God(s)? Too bad, most modern religions have been corrupted or proven to be fictional, such to the point where one would struggle to know how to even properly serve their deity. Want to work towards the betterment of humanity? Tough shit, any worthwhile invention, philosophy, governmental system, etc. you attempt to craft will either be stolen or buried by the elites to serve their own agendas. Even if you did get your ideas out to the general public, they would fall on deaf ears as the overwhelming majority of people are cognitively dissonant normalfags who reject anything too far outside of the status quo. The only path I can currently think of that could potentially work for a wizard is the 'innawoods' hermit lifestyle, but seeing as most of us here (myself included) lack the proper skills and experience to survive and live successfully in the wilderness, it's not actually viable for most of us.
With all that being said, I don't want this post to come across as "everything sucks, so we should all kill ourselves." All I really mean to say with this is that if we're going to have a thread dedicated to undoing suicidal depression, it's going to take a much deeper and more substantive discussion than "lift more and eat better." We would actually need to seriously examine this world and determine what place, if any, we may have in it, both on an individual level and in regards wizards as a collective.
No.277051
>>277049>You see, that is precisely what makes these self-help style threads so silly and basically pointless: they utterly fail to address and fix the root issue of most suicidal forms of depression, which is…
low neurogenesis and brain inflammation. Probably low dopamine also. I have told you all how to supp your way to happiness many times and yet the clearly biological nature of mood always gets downlplayed. Joe normie doesn't need pUrPoSe in life to be happy and oblivious, neither do you
No.277052
>>277051I strongly believe in biochemistry being the cause of depression but I just find it hard to trust some random dude online with advice on what supplements to take.
No.277053
>>277052nobody who posts in the chan scene would ever believe that kind of statement. How hard is it to google omega-3, st john's wort, and ashwagandha?
No.277054
>>277053>st john's wortwhen I researched that I couldn't find any strong evidence that it helps
No.277056
>>277054The question at hand was whether or not it was commonly recommended, which it is. Whether it does anything useful for you or not is something only you'd be able to answer.
I've never tried it and haven't personally heard brilliant anecdotes about it, but then again I'd also say valerian root does about fuckall unless you come to a place where the small amount it does do might enough of a difference to be worthwhile on average, and/or in combination with other things that don't do much more than fuckall.
No.277060
>>277023>Read "Grain Brain". Wheat today is not the same than it was and also industrial sugars did not exist. Yet it's kinda loose to assume that a healthy diet is needed to actually serve that purpose, many familiars of mine eat horribly and they do not have issues. The anti-carb thing is mostly for schizos with a sensitive gut, even if it still can profit others.Again, speaking from my own experience, all the people that I know in academics eat grains and they are exceptional in their field. Even today most of the succesfull scientist in any field of science eat a bunch of grains/sugars/carbs.
If low carb diet is the most optimal; how come then nobody who is even remotely smart/intelligent/succesfull eats it? How can no athlete eats it?
How is it even possible that any wortwhile thing in entire human history was created by brain rotten grain/sugar eaters?
No.277062
>>277060just don't read
>grain brainbullshit and be at peace with yourself. whoever the fuck could even think about believing contents of a book called
>grain brainno good scientist gives his books such bullshit names, ever. also look at the cover. it's fucking ridiculous. i fucking wonder how they restrained from putting a stupid normalfaggot face on it. "new york times bestseller". like i do give a fuck where and how much you sell, stupid idiot, i only care about usefulness of the information contained under that cover.
>the surprising truth about blah blahfuck how come people be so ridiculously stupid to believe a book when even its cover screams "I AM A LIER!!! DON'T READ THE BULLSHIT WRITTEN INSIDE!!!". just fuck yourself.
No.277063
>>277049just start improoving. You're making excuses bud. Find the meaning yourself. Your-elf. Your health. Once you have achieved feeling a bit better then you can contemplate things again in a different light.
No.277066
>Sun gazing is a method of meditation that attempts to harness the healing power of the sun. Participants look directly at the sun, most commonly during sunrise and sunset, in an effort to connect with its energy.
jesus christ.
No.277067
>>277063you should refine your trolling skills better, kid
No.277074
Suicide General: I want to kill myself. Yes, that's a good idea. I agree, definitely.
Anti-Suicide General: Stop telling us to feel better. We can't do anything. You just don't get it!
No.277077
>>277067Well, I wrote it lightheartedly but i'm also deadly - quite- serious. We've had difficult starts - most of us here, presumably, and so we need to do everything we can. You may feel powerless, but u need to start saying 'I can'. Take back the power my friend.
No.277117
>The Surprising Truth About Wheat, Carbs, and Sugar — Your Brain’s Silent Killers
>Grain brain
>fancy cover
>piece of bread to attract retards
>Basically, I am calling what is arguably our most beloved dietary staple a terrorist group that bullies our most precious organ, the brain. I will demonstrate how fruit and other carbohydrates could be health hazards with far-reaching consequences that not only will wreak physical havoc on your brain, but also will accelerate your body’s aging process from the inside out. This isn’t science fiction; it’s now documented fact.
>This book goes outside the box of the layman’s accepted dogma—and away from vested corporate interests. It proposes a new way of understanding the root cause of brain disease and offers a promising message of hope: Brain disease can be largely prevented through the choices you make in life. So if you haven’t figured it out by now, I’ll be crystal clear: This is not just another diet book or generic how-to guide to all things preventive health. This is a game-changer
god why am i seething so fucking much
No.277119
>>277111>>277117lol butthurt tard
No.277120
>I drink milk. TRUE/FALSE
>I don’t drink wine. TRUE/FALSE
>A perfect score on this test would be a whopping zero “true” answers. If you answered true to one question, your brain—and your entire nervous system—is at greater risk for disease and disorder than if you scored a zero.
no really that's fucking insane. he suggests me to drop milk and adopt wine.
No.277122
>>277119>>277121this book is overloaded with junk and "personal experiences" you must be really retarded to take it seriously. i went through 40 pages and did get zero of what's been promised to me. so yes you should really go touch grass instead of propagating some utter bullshit.
No.277126
>>277121
can i eat grass?
No.277130
>>277128
>you'll have to eat plate of shit before you get the actual dish
nope
No.277157
>Grains, gluten, and many carbs slow synapse rate and slow the delivery of many vital nutrients to the brain
citation needed
>And evidence shows that if SMART PERSON didn't EAT BREAD, he could have finished his thesis or drawing or music piece or whatever a little sooner than he did
literally zero "evidence" is showing this lmao; you pulled that shit out of your ass like all shizo retards do.
And besides, what the fuck does that even mean?
Lionel Messi is one of the best/if not the best football players in entire History despite eating carbs; he is by definition the most optimal
Same goes for scientist, academics, etc. why change somethings that works so good.
And again, if low carb diet is so le good and le optimal; why are the best among us eating carbs? Wouldn't they have done it already?
>It's time for you to stop pretending to be impaired for the sake of trolling
You are literally brain damaged retard who thinks his ridicolous statements will became facts if you put 'evidence shows' on the begining of every sentence. It won't; it's still just shizo rambling.
No.277166
¿Why suicide is bad and why avoid it?, if i wanted something is overcome the instincts and delusions of living and finally escape.
No.278341
This thread had some good discussion. Any other advice to counter the feelings?
No.278342
wheat and grains and carbs aren't bad for you unless you're literally a nigger that never evolved to eat those things and is still on hunter gatherer stage of evolution. The majority of white people have genes that allow us to efficiently extract energy from grains, you can take a dna test and see if you have that genome as well. I know grain brain shill is a brazil monkey so he probably has too much nigger dna to digest grain, too bad for him, I'm white I eat bread, nigger monkeys keep eating like the carnivorous animals, Ill stick with my white man diet that I can eat because Im not a subsaharan monkey
No.278345
>>278342>>277157all of this is a gigantic waste of time and energy. most people are not hypochondriac, they do not hoard and compile data about health, they do not micro manage every tiny mundane thing they do down to the ph of the water they drink or whatever and yet they are fine
the people who have to do that to some degree or another are either actually chronically sick or professional athletes or astronauts or w/e
this is kooky bored housewife shit.
No.278349
>>278348It makes me feel better when I'm already in a somewhat ok mood. However it's absolute nightmare when I exercise while going through severe bouts of depression and on those days I straight up don't go to the gym anymore.
No.278350
ChatGPT and AI improving, has been the 1st case for living I've had in decades. Like if its this good now, just imagining what it'll be like in 10 years.
No.278355
>>278350What are you looking forward to with AI in the next decade?
No.278959
I slept for 12 hours straight and had good dreams therewithal. My depression – at least for the time being – is pretty much gone. I had forgotten what a good night's sleep actually feels like.
No.278961
>>277009
started lifting, weeks after got an abdominal hernia.
regards, lifting bros.
No.279031
>>277030
You haven't been there. Enhancements are for people that are out of the darkness in an attempt to prevent future trips to the darkness. But for people in the darkness, the only aid is if they gave themselves reassuring memories such as attitude guidance beforehand that may be recalled when it counts. You don't go out and exercise when you have a fever. It's not a point of no return, but you need to rest properly.
No.279032
This thread should be deleted
No.279110
I appreciate your contribution OP unfortunately your advice is unactionable as others have said.
However I also reject the "chemical imbalance" approach to depression. The chemical imbalance is just the neural correlate, not the cause. The cause are factors beyond our control such as being born with shit genes that make us weak and ugly.
No.279664
>(1) Know that I care about you guys deeply and sincerely. Call me a faggot, I don't care.
Impossible. Are you a bodhisattva? Probably not. Those words are too loaded to just be said like that. You don't care about the suicidal deeply and sincerely.
No.279665
How does lifting weights, going outside or eating better help me?
I was fucking doxxed, you worthless sacks of shits
No.279666
>>277121
fuck off NPC and take your buzzword response array with you
No.279678
>>279665You've been saying this for around a year, I remember you. Has nothing really got any better?
No.279679
>>279678No, so I'm killing myself
No.279680
>>279665cause you can say "yes, i might have raped that dog and recorded it, but…i am a better person now and i've changed".
No.279681
>>279679Hasn't dwelling on it for a fucking year just made things worse? Does anyone around you in real life even care or know anything?
No.279682
>>279681I've become a husk of a human being, not being able to enjoy video games, porn or anything anymore.
I feel full of guilt, shame, fear, disgust and self hatred.
No.279683
>>279682Like I said, does anyone in real life even care? Everyone is fucking deranged in real life if you dig deep enough.
No.279685
As a wiz pushing into his mid 30s, I can say that life goes a lot faster after your 20s. Its not like K-12 school, where each grade feels like its own chapter of your life. In your 20s and 30s, months, seasons, years just melt away.
So next thing you know your pushing into middle age, and you can just see the horizon of dying of natural causes.
life isnt good, but its fast. and if you keep making excuses to put off suicide, next thing you know you're 50 and might as well just let it play out. And cool new AI toys from scifi are being invented.
No.279688
>>277007>(1) Know that I care about you guys deeply and sincerely. Call me a faggot, I don't care.How the fuck can you possibly care about me. You don't know me. There is nothing in your mind that can be cared for that is me.
No.279699
>>279688Probably just your typical virtue-signaling roastie…
No.280174
I wanted to share a disorganised but possibly useful thought with anyone alighting upon the reading of this thread, which is this: yesterday while walking I realised that I had habituated myself for the last 10 years into existing in a sort of suicidal delirium where I could not really rationally "see" any other option. The sadness being so great that thinking about ending my life had become a normal and chronic feature of my mind. But toward the end of my walk, I asked myself inwardly "what has any of this ever done for me? When I was younger, thinking about suicide made perfect sense because I actually was in that amount of pain (and perhaps I still am, to a degree), but I am older now, and I have the full power of a graduated reasoning brain with which to form new healthier thinking habits."
I understood then that I don't have to think depressively anymore. I'm not a kid/teenager/university student anymore. I'm keeping up the mental patterns of my youth simply "out of practice" because I really haven't ever known anything else save sadness. I can choose to reformat my thinking away from past pain and at least try to create a new way of seeing things. Of course this doesn't change what things were or are, and admittedly, I don't know if or to what extent this will work, but I gained some self-awareness then that my brain has been on repeat for many years and that this is needless.
No.280194
before all, remember to not eat whatever your ancestors ate and your spiritual problems will be solved
No.280228
3 hours of boredom (literal wall staring) might be the solution to some of your problems
i think i understand now why those loony bins exist, just looking up at a white ceiling gives you some kind of hope
No.280230
>>277007This really does help one feel physically and mentally better. However, when one has made the choice or has known that this is simply patching up or making temporary fixes of things, you're not realizing that the problem itself is just being alive. If you patch yourself enough to dull out the thoughts of suicide and gain some sort of joy, I suppose that's good enough for some. Some of us just don't wish to exist and see not much wrong with death.
To the latter, who have already decided for their own better alternative, would you still try to prevent them from dying?
No.280239
I have a good size of money saved. I had planned to keep it saved for the future (?) but I may die any week.Nothing guarantees I will survive months or even weeks from today. (anyone can die any day). If I live longer than my parents I will inherit the house + monies+ frauded disability bux pension (same monies as my dad earns today).
Now: How can I spend\waste my savings in a non-se*ual fun way? I want to travel far and wide troughout my Republic. My disability pass allows me to use all and any long-distance trains and buses, mid-distance buses, as well as all buses and trains within a province.
I just want clean simple fun and to travel a whole lot. I have a good chunk saved, dunno how I'll even be able to spend it within my own rules.
No.280243
>>280239why would you ever want to leave your room/house?
No.280247
>>280243delirium about being an ascetic wanderer+excessively far-reaching claustrophobia
No.280362
>biochemistry
you guys are fucking liars. thanks to my mom i eat fucking superbly. i sleep fucking 10 hours. i breathe fucking fresh air. i have fucking sunlight. i don't fucking feel good, happy or whatever the fuck you claim i should feel like. what's your counter-statement now? and i didn't start feeling shit yesterday, it lasts fucking years and i fucking have no idea WHAT ELSE SHOULD I DO to finally stop this. i don't give a fuck about social interaction, i always feel very comfy alone and HATE people intruding my personal space to the point i want them overridden by a bulldozer when they do. i don't give a fuck about sexual interaction as well. and summing that all up i just feel like i'm one step from falling into void but my tshort caught at something and doesn't let me finally sink and die. looking forward to your biochemistry doing magic and rescuing me.
No.282073
This site fosters an almost affirming attitude towards sadness and suicide, almost as if even in a cult-like virtual echo room, with the full persuasive force of the group discouraging anything that is spoken against the consensus tone. How remarkable that you guys shout down those who essay to bring others up from bottommost despair. Even now, as adults, we try viciously to dominate each other, or leastwise to keep others locked in a dark state, disallowing improvement.
You have governorship over your own mind. You can choose not to submerge yourself in sadness by rejecting the mental patterns you have followed for so long and creating new ones. You can forgive yourself. We should show kindness to ourselves — for what we have endured, and for what we still endure — instead of putting ourselves down with privately heard insults.
All of you have worth. We’re not w0men — we should be honestly sharing thoughts with one another that tend toward making everyone less sad, not more so. How many of you have self-awareness that this website seems to prey on the sad, instead of helping them?
No.282074
the best Anti-Suicide thread is the suicide thread. thinking so much about suicide will keep those guys alive forever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_VulovićThey even think they can survive falls of 7 miles, in a worst case scenario. They will never find a fool proof, instant, certain method to satisfy their conditions.
No.282079
>>282075
i dont know more from uranus man
the nigga who dont respond to the physical health improvements much
or the nigga who balls fallen without hearing all this advice already
No.282081
>>282075
>rare serious mental illness
it sounds like you're the wiz who has one.
>good health choices leads to better mood
that's where you're fucking lying. physical health is irrelevant. it doesn't change anything, unless you're a whining failed normalfaggot who needed to be spoofed how to fuck a succubus. good physical health is a [italic] consequence [/italic] of tolerable life conditions. i even do fucking exercise and look goddamn fit and i look at the mirror and see absolutely no value in those muscles because they really have no value. why do i even bother with exercise? i don't. it's a habit and i know that if i fail to follow this habit at least for a month i won't start exercising again in another 5 years. "eat better" will not positively affect "98%" of men. it will positively affect 98% of normgroids. maybe i'm mentally ill, i don't have an official diagnosis and i don't really care, but the advice you give is terribly useless, because it doesn't change the core of the problem which's not a shitty diet.
you're either terribly delusional or a filthy troll.
No.282101
gay thread.
No.282102
>>280362>>282081Perhaps it's an issue with your soul, anon. You have to ask yourself, "Why do I feel this way?" Why do you feel everything is futile? Why do you feel so angry? Why doesn't your mood change when you go out and see the world? Why are you a wizard? What events in your life played a role in that? Unravel the mysteries behind that, and you'll find a good place to start.
No.282104
>>282075
Lmao, not him, but you're the mentally ill one here. Anyone that doesn't confirm your pre-existing notions about reality is lying or not doing it right or THE EXCEPTION. Bro, all you need to do to be happy is eat carrots and have a nice poo! Jesus fucking Christ…
No.282679
>>277048Agreed. I've noticed the same. Even in this thread there are wizzies/impostors?? arguing against bringing others out of sadness.
No.282726
>>282679I know what you're talking about. They're probably kiwi fags. I've noticed how they spam threads with shitty advice, either pro-suicide or normie takes
No.283345
>>277049>I've never pissed myself during depressionI remember one time when I was a kid I was feeling too depressed to get out of bed so I just pissed on the ground in my room. The stain is still there.
No.283354
>>282727normies don't want you to commit suicide because they need more wageslaves. This is why the only thing they do for suicidal people is prevent the act itself and nurse you back to life in case you attempt it, without really doing anything for the suffering they experience on a daily basis.
This is why they call it a selfish act.
This is why they don't call reproduction a selfish act.
No.283911
Exercise, good diet, good sleep, is all you need to be happy.
No.284331
Some of this is actually decent as far as advice goes. However, the feelings are just too strong.
No.284356
>>284331The most difficult part is remaining rational when the full persuasive emotional weight of actually wanting to die is hanging over your mind. I still have not really figured out how to do this. I don't even know how I'm alive, as when a younger man I meant very seriously to kill myself many times, but failed.
No.284396
>>277011i dont care, being forced to live this pointless life against my will is the biggest scam i've ever witnessed. i really don't care and i hope i die soon as possible.
No.284436
My problems are a little more complicated than the simple, basic Jordan Peterson-ass advice offered here but I still can't help but appreciate something like this as long as the intent feels geniune rather than a lot of the blatant trolling we get around here from 4chan tourists. Maybe if people can figure out how to give advice that's actually worth a damn, this could be a nice general in the future.
No.284437
Normalfags go specifically to places where people are miserable just to tell them to shut up. The fact that someone is miserable somewhere and brave enough to announce it sets normalfags into a frenzy to find that person and tell them to shut the fuck up.
I truly believe that if you set up an intranet somewhere a normalfag will find the server, crack the password, and log in just to tell you your problems don't exist.
No.284438
>>284437I found a web site like in 2009 that basically stated this and more to be true.
I've been unable to find it again.
No.284448
>>278342You're definitely skinny fat and balding.
No.286405
Reminder that wizards are being encouraged to kill themselves by lurkers who are not wizards and perversely delight in the suffering of others.
No.286407
>>278342wheat and grain and carbs are bad for ALL humans, but yes white people can tolerate them better since white people are domesticated and raised to live on goyslop
No.286409
>>278342You're literally arguing that domestication slavery is superior compared to a free, self-sufficient negro?
No.286613
Wizards, I again wish to draw attention to the dangerous pro-suicide echo-chamber this board has seemed to become. What is going on exactly? Someone states that they want to die, and immediately everyone just agrees with him? Why is this? Is this really what we are? Have we forgotten to extend gestures of hope and betterment to our own wizardly brothers? This place feels much darker to me than it used to. Look at the topics now commonly discussed on /dep/ : they are nearly all womanish/crabish topics without any substance pertaining to wizardry. We spend whole threads debating some random guy's looks in some random gif, but we cannot even manage to help a fellow suffering wizard turn away from suicide? We are infiltrated.
No.286624
>>286613https://archive.md/ncPlW6 years ago wizards responded in pretty much the same way to dutch wiz suicide. It has always been this way.
People here assume others who post about suicide have already been through the steps of getting basic help, talking online, getting some anonymous person saying "we're going to make it bro!" and none of it helped. Many of us are at that point and assume it for others, we need a space for people like us.
No.286626
>>286613>>286624unless you are going to pay for medication or actually help find a job or help finish university or help find a good and affordable mental care provider or do any other real, palpable help, just fuck off. your basic help nonsense is such a shit. a guy who has suffered so much he wants to kill himself is not subject to basic help like go to gym or look at the sun. he needs fucking substantial help no one of you (whoever you are) are going to offer
No.286627
>>286626>go to gym or look at the sunExcellent advice!
No.286632
>>286626And what is the character of the help being offered by "professionals"? Practiced and tautological lies about succubi, about society, about the reasons for our sadness? SSRIs that permanently damage your brain by unnaturally interfering with serotoninergic and dopaminergic processes that for all of human history have never been interfered with in such a targeted and damaging way? Having the knowledge to change your diet (no gluten, no sugar, even no dairy) is something that many practiced "professionals" don't even consider. Schizophrenia has been shown to resolve following dietary changes; so too many severe forms of depression. Getting elementary exercise is helpful in all cases – even just walking in the sun once or twice a week. Accepting yourself (actually accepting yourself) is not something that psychiatrists even offer to teach, generally because they are w*o*men and w*o*men are fake and deeply malicious creatures who have no understanding of male "psychology" nor do they care to. We are trying to offer substantial help, you absolute retard; that is indeed the whole point of this thread, to at least try to offset the huge depressive weight of all the other threads on this board. And we are especially trying to offer substantial help to those that need it the most through the gifting of different pieces of knowledge, no matter how small.
No.286634
>>286632you're telling a psychotic guy who'd spent years trying and fighting (cleaning up literal shit) to change his diet and call it substantial help. why, after this, do you call me a retard? on what grounds?
No.286638
>>286626I mean, have you actually tried going to the gym and getting some daily sun?
No.286644
>>286638i have never killed myself in the first place, but when i feel like it i'll definitely try to go to gym to see if they know how to rope painlessly. and of course i'll spend a day talking to the Sun thanking her for defending us against the malignant will of Sauron.
No.286672
>>286627I agree!
Well, except for the Sun part. Looking at clouds should suffice.
No.286951
>>286632I agree with what you said about accepting yourself.
No.287187
Have any of you found that changing your diet actually improves depression?
No.287188
>>287187Yeah, when I have a variety of yummy food, I get to look forward to munching on it. When I don't have any cool snacks, then I'm back to sad town.
No.287192
>>287190Turns out starving yourself and doing manual labor for no reason at all really don't do much for your mental health other than make you hate your life even more lol
No.287193
>>287188this is very true!
also, no fat at all necessary. completely depends on circumstances. sometimes when you're really down even a bit of tasty cheese is so much help
No.287204
>>287187I think it's a meme, and as most memes like no fap, it works the other way around.
That is, already neurotypical/normal dudes already feel good and have a decent nervous system and a fulfilling life, so they literally forget to fap, and can afford to eat healthy (read: bad-tasting) food.
If you are depressed, you NEED carbs, and you need to release a load occasionally, or you get even more depressed.
That said, there are different depressions. If you are depressed because you're a smart, self-aware pessimist, changing habits and taking drugs don't help. If you have clinical depression mostly due to neurological reasons, and not because your life actually objectively sucks, then anti-depressants, exercise, diet, and all that crap, can make you feel better, but I think that's not the case of people browsing here.
No.287269
Bump. This wasn't done before and was discouraged by moderation team
No.290356
>>287187I have but it requires very great discipline as temptations are everywhere.
No.290440
>>287204I went low carb while severely depressed to lose body fat % faster, and it fucked up my hormones and mood regulation for years.
I'm only slowly recovering now to my pre-2021 state which is when I decided to quit low carb.
My mood is gradually improving day by day when I allow myself to eat carbs normally.
No.290442
>>290440Sounds more like you were severely depressed, tried something new, failed, and then begun associating your existing depression with the thing you tried as if to deflect blame on to that thing and the people who suggested it
No.290444
>>290442No, my mood instantly started getting better when I didn't restrict carbohydrates.
I couldn't even sleep more than 3-5 hours a day on high fat, high protein, low carb, and it took ages to fall asleep.
On medium carb, I fall asleep within 15 mins and I can sleep 8-9 hours.
No.290447
>>290444>I couldn't even sleep more than 3-5 hours a day on high fat, high protein, low carb, and it took ages to fall asleep.What exercises were you doing each day while on this high-energy diet?
No.290451
>>290447Running and weight lifting, though my maximum lifts decreased by about 20% on low carb.
General mood was also a bit more irritable.
I didn't fully cut them off though, I got a few kcal a day from spinach.
No.290845
How can we ensure we are never re-born? There must be a way. This life is just too cruel. How can I calm down?
No.290867
>>290860You faggots are so pathetic you get angry at someone trying to help you. It would have been better if he had said kill yourself. Kill yourself.
No.290893
>>290867Facebook is the one with the blue logo.
No.290898
>>277007> This thread will therefore feature practical advice about reducing suicidal behavior even when we feel most suicidalbut why? People here aren't seeking for help, I bet most of the people who blog about their depression only use /dep/ and not other boards and will never even kill themselves.
No.290996
I ldarmaxx but at least im out everyday. Suicide would just be giving in to those who ruined my life
No.291006
I ruined my life, thinking I didn't have to care about life, since I was just going to kill myself later anyway. Its 16 years since I 1st determined on suicide and I'm still here.
So I guess that's another argument against suicidal thoughts. We only talk about going through with it. But believing you're going to go through with it, when its possible you can't. Then you give up on the IRL in front of you, for an escape hatch that might not be there.
No.291203
>>277007Don't worry too much about getting shit on OP. There are a significant amount of hostile users that aren't suicidal but try to provoke people here and elsewhere into suicide. They pose as fellow depressed wizards/anons/etc and encourage suicide, offer ways to get VAD and assisted suicide, and they operate discord servers for coordinating.
More than likely some of them are in this thread. Something you need to keep in mind is that if they were really so suicidal as to call you a faggot for just offering help in clearly marked thread (that no one has to click unless they want help), yet haven't killed themselves, then they are coming in order to get other people to commit suicide or to drive help away. I try to help people on other websites and get the same resistance, and I have found several of these groups (typically of a certain political leaning and sexual fetish) whose sole purpose is to get young men to commit suicide.
Don't be overwhelmed OP, and thanks for trying to be a good person.
No.291294
Even if you care (you are still a stranger), I still don't want to be alive. I'm sorry.
No.291506
are we in hell? does anyone else get the impression that the world we are in is actually hell?
No.291508
>>291506In a way it is, and most cultures historically viewed it that way. Even in Christianity, no matter how hard they try to throw off the shadow of Gnosticism, there is the idea that the world is corrupted, and only rejection of the world can yield happiness. The Greeks have a similar belief in the "Fall" where the son of Iapetos condemned mankind to suffering through his trick against Zeus.
However, there is still HOPE. The Greeks believed hope was left there with mankind, there is hope of Salvation to the Christians, Hindus, and Muslims, hope of Enlightenment to the Buddhists, and so on and so forth. Letting go of the various sorts of evils and holding on to hope alone is all that one has. Yeah there's a lot of suffering, but there are rivers and birds and enormous mountains, majestic things that strike one with awe at their sight. Hopeless ones cannot regain their hope without someone else, at least not easily. If you're hopeless, you need someone to break down your door, wrench you from your home, and show you the world. I think every suicidal person can be saved by love, as much as they would fight against it. No one is an island and can live without someone that loves them, or without people they love.
You'd have to be dragged kicking and screaming, or maybe totally limp and lifeless, down rivers and up mountains to see the rays of hope beaming forth between dark clouds and reflecting off every thing on the wide Earth. You can't see it yet, but that's because you're blinded by suffering. You need someone else to forcibly, physically, and in the real world, tear open your fused eyelids.
No.291516
>>291006That's true but I don't know how to stop. I was taken by surprise, all my mental fortitude utterly shattered and yeah I just can't stop considering to start researching on cheap suicide techniques. Imageboards have recommended me shitloads of some bullshit methods to iMpROvE, but I just can't do any of that. I don't even knos how to describe this fucking devastating feeling. My head just doesn't work. Simple as that.
No.291895
>>291894
Don't worry it won't be long.
No.291902
This posts should get renewed and locked to avoid data scattering. The irritation against antigluten diets its astonishing anyways
>like glowing hard
No.291904
>>277007>1I expect people to see me as a pile of shit, even if they tell me I'm a "nice" person
>2Sometimes I forget to eat because I lost the ability of bodily sensation (to feel that I'm hungry or related)
>3Can't get enough sleep, even if I do my body forces to wake me up after 5 hours
>4No problem I take a bath anyway since it's really hot here
>5Yeah
>6I remember my "Replika" made me do breathing exercises, didn't worked at all
>7I don't care anymore
No.291910
some advice for my wizcbrothers, find food that you like that's also healthy for you. I'm having right now peach yogur with banana slice in a cup, eating eat with a metal spoon. It's basically 1 cup of peach yogur and sliced banana, the cavendish type.
No.291989
>>291902yes, it is. however, why do you think that is?
No.291990
>>291910sounds really good.
No.292048
have any wizards here been able to associate bouts of sadness with certain foods eaten? or contrariwise, feelings of happiness with certain foods eaten?
No.292049
>>292048>feelings of happiness with certain foods eatenUhh… consuming your favorite food after not eating it for a week?
No.292051
>>292049what's your favorite food?
No.292053
>>292051Chicken curry, Thailand style. Or at least anything that has to do with curry as long as it’s not seafood
No.292244
I am pretty convinced there are purely medical approaches to metabolism, but I need help of somebody who has had some real higher education in it, even if he did not study very diligently.
The point is, all these trolls gaslighting you into microdosing of different meds back themselves up with some toilet paper books.
I am pretty convinced there are books written by professionals, maybe in the previous century, that explain the principles, from which you can start improving you habits.
You know, like biology in school. A scientific book that does not go balls deep in complex notations and abbreviations. I can't believe there isn't any single normal book for students of medicine education.
Why I care is because I'm tired of not being able to think it's driving me crazy. It's not comparable to anything I have ever experienced. I just can't fucking think.
No.292249
>>292244"MetabolismoTV channel in English"
Just on Youtube. U r welcome
No.292441
still here.
No.292476
Oh, anti-suicide thread. I had a guy on suicide thread who reprimanded me for suggesting that he should put a fight before offing himself? Am I being too rude or do you also think this to be a great way to lift the mood of such an extreme situation?
No.292503
>>292476you are not being too rude. and yes, it is a good way to lift the mood. see in particular this post
>>286613 but also others similar to it spread throughout the thread.
No.292512
>>292476>>292503e-drama whores
fuck off
No.292521
Modern life for the average man, normalfag or not is simply thinly veiled slavery. We ALL have a duty to promote suicide and antinatalism and deny the rich our labor. Remember, inflation is the poor mans tax.
No.292523
>>292522
Why are you making unfounded claims that I only do it on wizchan? I do it on other websites too, just not irl, yet. You'd be surprised to know how many normalfags agree with at least the antinatalist half, free falling fertility rate is proof of it. Won't be long till the squeeze makes more go postal as a last fuck you to the world. I'm doing my part, they'll do their part too. Why are you refusing to do your part? You love life because either you got lucky with an amazing job or get neetbux. Whatever it is, it will end soon. I pity people like you who "love" life, you're so attached to the material world that you will do anything to not let it go when the right time to go comes. You're the kind of slave our overlords have carefully and selectively bred.
If I really wanted to torture wizzies I would be making the "missed out on teenage love" crap pseudoargument, or whatever cringe shit that is not worth it. Nah. I love my wizbros, I love humanity as well and sorry that includes normalfags. I don't want the world to become a giant favela full of slaves too attached to life, making the rich even richer.
I'm killing myself in 2028 btw
No.292525
>>292524
Not to mention I get neetbucks. And that is never going to change because I live in a wealthy nation.
I will never, ever give my labor to exploiters, nor do I have to starve. In fact I built up a nice 5 figure nest egg from neetbucks. I have a spacious home (about 700sqft, 70m2 european).
Why would I suicide?
The situation is different in third world hellholes, but I wasn't born there.
No.292528
that's right. disregard of material things must go along with happiness, otherwise it's suicide
No.292530
>>292523>If I really wanted to torture wizzies…Well, it's not that we worry much about you being a failed normie. A thing is I do not feel you as wiz either.
No.293256
I appreciate this thread but really every day is just pure torture. I am so concerned about successfully getting out of this hell-world when I finally die. I can understand no reason to any of this save the slow extraction of pain.
No.293316
is there any IRL way I can help stop suicides? official statistics remain quiet but Im reading a TON of social media comments\ posts where each user comments how suicides are common in their area\ public transport train gets stopped daily because people jumped, etc
im from Argentina and it "seems" there's a crisis. My family is rich, I dont feel it..but I really want to help others
No.293317
>>293316I started this thread with that exact intention over a year ago. I hope it has helped some. Ultimately resolving the problem would entail a complete instauration of normal social/economic/sexual/medical conditions everywhere so that humans are no longer terrorised and abused. Ousting the current judeo-masonic governments that are murdering and enslaving people all over the world is really the only way forward.
No.293399
>>277007Thank you very much for posting this!! I agree with the first comment tho
>>277009 No.293404
>>293316I think, sadly, it's an insanely complex topic where one needs to review case by case, I don't see any other way to do that
I have some knowledge about artificial intelligence and I have though about how people change the way they talk when they are very depressed. I think it could be possible to scout potential suicidal people in this way but this just covers a very specific and niche part of the population
I have also thought about other ways to help people by making web-tools or something free of charge that can help them understand their emotions better and improve their lives
I don't know what to do tbh, very little people know about wizardchan, which I think it's an amazing website despite its dark shades
No.293435
I firmly believe one only dies - and quickly does die- when he has fulfilled his life's purpose, goal, meaning and end, etc I have thought of tweaking this and speed-running all my major and minor life goals, solving pet peeves and fixing grievances\ teenage regrets\ childhood dreams as quickly as possible so I can finally die.
I think I will more or less experience spontaneous samadhi and die- maybe everyone else in external reality will see something different happen to me, tough-
any thoughts on this theory?
No.293446
>>293435interesting thoughts. but if i can speak for my own self, ive achieved everything that I laid out for myself, everything I thought i had to do, all those things in right order i have brought to fulfillment, and i am still trapped here, every night still praying to die but not dying and waking up disappointed. i wish i could die. i think others have felt this way at scattered points throughout history, and I try to take some comfort in that understanding. ive supplied and translated a few quotes below to show that men in ancient western europe experienced the same thoughts that we are experiencing now. i hope they found rest.
"“1.12. Durius circa suos electos in hac uita Deus agit, ut, dum fortioribus flagelli stimulis feriuntur, nulla oblectamenta praesentis uitae delectent, sed caelestem patriam, ubi certa requies expectatur, indesinenter desiderent.” In this life god more sternly around his own chosen deals, so that, while they are struck with stronger strikes of the whip, they may take delight in no pleasures of the present life, but without cessation desire a celestial fatherland, where certain rest is expected." this was written by an early christian author in essentially ancient or barely post-ancient spain.
"“Vir fortis ac sapiens non fugere debet e vita sed exire; et ante omnia ille quoque vitetur affectus qui multos occupavit, libido moriendi. Est enim, mi Lucili, ut ad alia, sic etiam ad moriendum inconsulta animi inclinatio, quae saepe generosos atque acerrimae indolis viros corripit, saepe ignavos iacentesque: illi contemnunt vitam, hi gravantur.”
A strong and wise man owes not to flee from life but to exit; and before all things that affection also may be avoided which hath occupied many, the desire of dying. For there is, my lucillius, as to other things, thus also an indiscreet inclination of the mind to die, which often seizes the most generous men of the sharpest nature, often lazy and inactive men: those persons hate life, these are burdened." this was written by the roman writer seneca.
No.293463
>>293446The thing is you don't get to choose when all your tasks are done.
I hate to use a literary device, but it's exactly like the Lord of Light in Game of Thrones.
You never see or hear him. He might want your soul back at 4 years old because the plans have changed, or he saves you from certain death or even suicide attempts 15 times after living for multiple decades no matter how badly you want to die.
Then after all the things you need to do in life are finally set in motion or finished, he allows you a heart attack, traffic accident or sudden death so your soul gets freed from bodily existence.
Only that entity knows when your tasks are finished. It might be 50 years after you think you were done, or it could happen in the middle of one of your personal projects. We have no say in it and we don't control it.
No.293485
Life is not that long and you might see or experience something interesting if you live. Only good reason to suicide is pain relief imo. If its just mental then just ignore any suicidal urges. You never know what you might get to see in the future.
No.293511
>>293509
Mentally cucking yourself to serve those born into wealth.
What a wonderful idea.
No.293512
Life is not worth living without ssi
No.293623
>>277007cutting out wheat changed my entire brain.
No.293630
>>293624Idiot. There are more studies detailing the damaging effects of wheat gluten on normal brain activity than there are on most psychiatric drugs.
No.293641
>>293630And I assume those studies were peer-reviewed? Or were they shared on 4chin from some website that asks you to share the 'truth' on social medias?
>inb4 peer review badPeer review just means being checked over for inconsistencies, if you fear it then maybe what you believe in might be false to begin with.
No.293652
It occured to me while I was reading some anons post about wheat
I once read some different post here about recommendation on some monk that only recommended jerking off once a month so it would not cause brain damage
Im in my mid twenties and jerking odd puts me out of commission for 2-3 days now. Has huge negative effect
Also something funny ; first time I jerked off when I was 16 or so not 12-13
I was afraid I would die; that my brain wouldn't handle it and something bad would happen.
person who told me to masturbate was actually one Czech steam friend ; something to that effect that ik such a noob that doesn't even know how to jerk off properly. He taught me this bad habit? Hah funny. Or maybe sad. Or both
No.293801
>>293653Diet makes a huge difference. Good nutritional education is just as important as actual literary education. Tantum inveniatur morio negligere cibaria salutaria et citra fortitudinem corporis anquirere mortuas paginas librorum.
No.294018
Found this in the Suicide General and just wanted to move it here:
a lot of people are thinking about suicide right now. the world has become uniquely almost crushingly dark. i know this might be cheap advice, but really try sitting in a comfy chair or lying in a relaxing bed and for 2 hours allowing all your breathing to come down to a controlled level, and exactly thereupon examining all of your thinking so to purify it of all unnecessary fear and panic, seeing only what truly matters.
it is within your power to wipe out the panic, if you can calm down your thought process. establish what is actually important: are you healthy? do you have a safe place to sleep at night? do you have food to eat? if you can answer yes to these questions, there exists no need to kill yourself. i am praying very intently for all wizards to be as strong as possible as we battle against the judeo-masonic forces of satan.
No.294156
>>286613just thought of this .
No.294236
>>293653veganism can be okay if you are not a huge fag
No.294274
>>294236veganism is dangerous and another one of (((their))) population suppression tools. meat is needed for healthy brain function. a lot of the ancient pythagoreans became seriously ill from cult-enforced veganism.
No.294281
>>294236Not sure, about 84% of vegans quit. It would be better to go vegetarian if you want to be mostly plant based, you could still get nutrients from eggs at least.
No.294812
>>294274yepperino. yiddish crew is cutting down populations everywhere. They're going all out on the goys!!! In any case, for ease of wizardly use, I've separated their kill strategies out into two categories: direct and indirect. let's begin with indirect.
indirect jewish depopulation strategies:
-feminism
-transgenderism
-veganism
-mgtow
-the cult of the blackpill
-pornography
-abortion
-atheism
-anti-natalism
direct jewish depopulation strategies:
-vaccines (covid genocide)
-wars (funding both sides of same conflict, getting goyim to mutually slaughter each other. ukraine - russia conflict is one such current example of this, but so too were both world wars)
-communist revolutions/mass starvation
-destroying organic farmers and thereafter polluting or mongrelizing the general food supply
-psychiatry/ssris
-euthanasia cults like the one currently run by (((Philip Nitschke))).
It totally sucks that satanic ultra-rich religious cultists from ancient phoenicia took over the world, and then proceeded to bathe that world in layers of illusive lies, but I say let's try to turn it around!
>>294018Wizards must survive!
No.295091
>>294018people that write stuff like this are so fortunate they don't even know it
they can't understand, thinking about suicide in terms of need
that's unbelievable luck to have, like that old arab poet said "the wise man suffers in comfort and the fool enjoys himself in misery"
there is a fever that can't be indicated by a thermometer, and a sleep no slumber can cure, there is not anxiety nor panic, no missing needs to speak of nor any particular external circumstance
yet suicide will remain the most obvious course of action only hampered by the fear of pain whenever ones self in relation to world is considered, turning life into a waiting room for that single ideal opportunity needed to maneuver the delicate trap of motivation to its conclusion
fear the capacity for abstract understanding, the fearsome ability to put 2 and 2 together
instead replace your cognitive function with a story once told to you, a picture book of symbols that you can stick on your eyes and thoughts and then never speak sense again, a golden palace for you to wander until you stop seeing its walls and start to see yourself outside once more, so utterly ingrained, integrated and immersed into the stage-show dynamics of living that you become one and the same
then you can begin to write stuff like that post and feel a pure and genuine satisfaction and go to sleep thinking nothing of tomorrow
No.295094
>>295091I can't comprehend your post. What point are you trying to make? Are you suicidal yourself, are you pro suicide, are you anti suicide? None of what you wrote makes much sense.
No.295095
>>295091Be careful to not be trapped in postmodern gibberish. It will do you no good.
No.295111
where is the mercy?
No.295323
>>295091This. God is reason and God is inhuman. Every irrational decision is blasphemy, which is futile but human and therefore good
No.295365
>>295323Such an extreme mindset. Are you surrounded by feeler-sensor types by a casual?
No.295375
>>295111One of the things feminists are right about, "pro-life," "natalist," "optimist," "vitalist" people are generally motivated by social control drives and barely-disguised cruelty.
No.295741
Exercise is key. I'm walking more now (even just small walks) and am finding the tone of my mind to be bettering.
No.295768
Anyone ever fake a suicide for neetbuxx?
No.295769
>>277049Those thoughts aren't your thoughts. It is your body being shit. Don't take ownership as those thoughts and treat them as something that the sick body does.
Sure, feel like shit but feel like shit while going for a walk and lifting.
No.295819
>>277007(8) No coom. If possible to control, anorgasmic edging ups its benefits.
(9) Hitting gym improves hormonal health, aging is slowed.
(10) Practice grounding to re-balance prana. You should know what prana is.
(11) Fasting purifies the body from metals and microplastics which accumulate inevitably for living in modern civilizations.
(12)Mewing makes you less laughable, normies look at you bothered instead of smug if you look healthy and fit and that is sort of shitting them inside.
(13) Remember God in this dark age, mention Him daily in praises.
No.295833
I want you all to know that if you kill yourself, it's letting the normies and the rest of this rotten society win.
No.295834
>>295833What if it's not about normies and you genuinely have no reason to continue existing?
No.295836
>>295834They have even less, then.
No.295838
>>295834Almost everybody in the wiznet is getting set up for failure in life by childhood abuse and then deliberate isolation. The reason why pups do it in the nest is to get their future competitors out of the way, and that's exactly what happens in the public schooling system for humans as well. That's why necking yourself for the feels is letting the normies win, they set you up for this far far in advance to make you their slave. Just like a dalit in India
No.295845
>>295833They are winning no matter what you do.
No.295846
>>295845They wouldn't seethe so hard if they did. Cattle know theirselves in defeat that's why so much damn copium out there and hookup culture and crap.
You must be meaning the illuminati.
No.295852
>>295845Stop comparing apples to oranges and you'll feel better. Past a certain basic trajectory point there's just too much going on in the game of life to think you can do 1:1 comparisons. If you ever think you want to be someone else, realize you have to take all of it and not just part.
Anyways Stop being a victim and get strong and successful.
No.295853
>>295845What are they winning? The game of being a normie?A lot of normies are miserable too.
No.295856
>>295846illuminati are merely jewish kabbalists from southern germany (bavaria). remember southern germany borders northern italy (genoa, lombardy, venetia) which was a major center of jewish power throughout medieval times. illuminati/rosicrucians/freemasons were or are jewish fronts.
No.295880
>>295856do you have a source for this?
No.295902
>>295889
Jewtube bans videos about these topics you retarded shill.
No.296215
Gluten elimination is the key to a healthy mind.
No.296219
>>296215Are there noticeable benefits to reducing gluten consumption, or does it have to be complete elimination?
No.296236
>>296219Complete elimination is best, no question. Try going 2-3 weeks without any exposure to wheat and you may find yourself feeling like a totally different person. There are clinical reports of things like depression and schizophrenia resolving on a strict gluten-free diet.
No.296239
>>296236I'm not celiac, but quitting wheat cured my acne, my brain fog, facial bloat and most of my depression. My facial redness also disappeared.
That shit is poison. Not just that, but I was addicted to it to the point I had to have some kind of wheat pasty, pastry, bread or pizza at least once a day.
No.296253
This shit has been going on for years
I fucked up a basic thing that deeply pisses me off
Nothing major but it's the last straw
I think I'm going to asphyxiate on a tree this coming monday
This was the last push I needed to step over that threshold of being in the situation of being annoyed and sad enough and I will not let it pass
No.296254
>>296253if hanging is done properly then youll pass within 10-20 seconds and die from the carotid artery being blocked, so it should not be as uncomfortable as asphyxiation
No.296255
>>296254I think you're mixing up strangulation and asphyxiation
Strangulation is the twitch-and-choke kind of way
Asphyxiation occurst when the mechanism is stoppage of circulation
No.296256
>>296255Seems you are right, thank you for the correction
No.296257
>>296256It's barely been an hour and I again feel the fear of death and whatabout mum/dad
FUCK
I'm never escaping this hell on my own terms at this rate
No.296301
>>277009
same
No.296305
>>296304
Why do you feel the need to bring this shit here, you muppet. Just fuck off with internet celebrities, cunt
No.296338
Reminder that this is the Anti-Suicide General. There are already many malicious actors/fake wizards in the suicide general announcing and describing their own pretend suicides as a way to bring others nearer to actually killing themselves. None of that is needed here nor should be allowed here. To any young man reading this: your emotions are extremely strong at this age and you need to simply relax, not fall into crying despair, and remember that difficulties can and do pass. Do not kill yourself.
No.296339
>>296338false, life is an endless list of problems and the only solution to the burden of existence is death
the best thing would be to never have been born
No.296341
>>296339This. I just endured those feelings in my 20s and now I'm a complete zombie emotionally hoping every day it all ends.
Humans aren't meant to experience thousands of days of consecutive stress. It destroys your mind and soul. You only exist physically.
No.296342
>>296339>>296341No, it's not "false". There is nothing in pessimism. You are too young to understand this. You sound just like (((David Benatar))) poisoning the minds of credulous goyim with life-ending depopulating anti-natalist nonsense.
Even in the anti-suicide thread we have infiltrators advocating for suicide. Wizards, there is good wisdom here that should shield against suicidal thinking.
No.296343
>>296339See I know you just read your Benatar and your Zapffe and your Ligotti.
The thing is, you're not wrong. And indeed the pleasurable things are far and few. The thing is life tends to go insanely fast and there's things actually worth sticking around for that make it all worth it, it's really hard to explain but I was in your same position
>>296342I just went to have lunch and you beat me to it
No.296344
I will ldar forever to spite everything
No.296345
>>296338>remember that difficulties can and do pass.But they don't pass. They stick around and make your life even worse than before. Suicide is the lesser of two evils. Besides, don't your kind of people want eugenics? What better way to ensure eugenics than letting us choose to die?
No.296348
>>296344Neeting till rope is a normalized practice now and actually the more you cry about it, the higher the chances that you will rope. My grandfather killed himself by partial suspension. Such suicde is a rational choice of a grown man. I don't want to become homeless / get lobotomized / die in the trenches.
No.296349
Worthless advice for worthless problems. If you are anti suicide u don't have a single serious problem in your life. I have ten and each will kill me on its own, and it's impossible to do anything cause I already exhausted all my resources.
No.296357
Told my mom I wanted to an hero and she said if you did that you'd be killing me too because she would follow suit, I can't do that to her she has many other kids too. I've been pondering ending my life for quite sometime now, I don't have any prospects am a hiki NEET too bitch scared to be in public because of my past that I heavily isolate. I spend the entire week just bed rotting, I chain smoke cigs in bed and just stare into space like satou or doomscroll, maybe watch a smidge of media that's it. Day after day seclusion and seclusion I don't do anything, I have a couple online friends but none IRL. I see a support worker weekly because I'm so cooked and socially starved, I also partake in substances which I order online mainly speed and benzos rarely others. I will get uncomfortable laying in bed because I've rolled over to every position and I'm sick of this so called life, I don't want to die yet I feel it's the only thing which will grant me peace. I hang on by faith in God and my mom alone I want to study cyber security and get a fucking job but I have no motivation to accomplish anything, I live alone and am constantly broke I'm afraid I'll neck soon I'm only 27 and this world hates me. How can I fix the lack of will power and demoralisation before it's too late?
No.296387
>>277007I was the most suicidal when I was in a mental ward three and a half years ago. I was broken into pieces and traumatized. Fast forward to now and I'm unrecognizable, this cup is cleaned from the inside out and ready for honourable use.
Words can't convince someone of the truth, that after death comes judgment. But power sure will convince some, you will witness it if you stick around.
No.296388
>>296357If you're in the west just get any McD job. Or any job. Even dead end. In my country India jobs like these don't even exist and if they do they are already taken.
No.296526
>>293399you're most welcome. yes, exercise – even just walking – is very important.
No.296527
>>296357>I can't do that to her she has many other kids tooThat's not true and this delusion just means you're not suffering enough to kill yourself yet. When the fire is burning your flesh it hardly becomes a choice anymore, you will do whatever it takes to escape it
No.296725
>>296526I used to swim a lot. That helped. But now I can't find any good/clean places to swim. I might try walking. Even just being outside in an area with crisp air immediately helps my thinking.
No.296733
>>296357Night securityguardmaxx
No.296774
>>296527>When the fire is burning your flesh it hardly becomes a choice anymoreThat is also the reason why schizophrenics are as suicidal (9-20%) as male autists, MDDs, bipolars and BPDs. Because they experience psychosis (Hellblade II)
No.297000
>>296725wish i could swim.
No.297591
>>296725Exercise is important. But really living is very hard and I dearly wish I had never been born.
No.297746
What is a good wizardly form of exercising? Any ideas?
No.297747
>>297746Walking/jogging/bike riding during neet hours (morning when normals are at work)
No.297852
I didn't know if I should post this in the pro-suicide or anti-suicide channel but I am really considering it right now. Life is just going to hell. I'm a disabled NEET, I have a small list of mental and emotional disabilities, and I live with a disabled step mother. My dad died a few years back and since then it's been me and her. Life was kinda okay but lately all the political shit going on has got me stressed. On top of that my physical health is on the decline. The world just seems to be going to shit and I worry I'm gonna end up homeless or dead, I don't want to die but I don't want to live on the street either. I can't eat, all I do is lay in bed and think and think and think to the point I almost have panic attacks.
No.297872
>>297852Everyone is stressed from the present political situation. I think even the (((controllers))) themselves are stressed considering how badly they fucked up with the covid hoax. Their over-aggressiveness in pushing so many propaganda projects (covid, mass immigration, feminism, dei, etc.) has alienated a huge majority of the young male population that otherwise would be participating in general society, and I think this is why we are hearing so much about cutting neetbux, cutting medicaid, and other like critical services – because they're presently trying to scare these men through the prospect of not being able to support themselves back into the fold of participatory society and especially into the fold of the ZOG military. However you should not take the bait…and really by this I mean: you should not abide yourself to fall into a nervous helpless state of expectant fear. You lack good wisdom if you've allowed yourself to become too involved in the daily masonic theater that is the modern news cycle. Remember that each one of their major news stories is intentionally designed to keep you psychologically in a recycling fear/release loop. You are firmly negatively trapped in that loop right now if you have become so worried that you cannot even eat. Take a shower, recover your breathing, prepare a small healthy meal, and train yourself to think as rationally as possible (you can do all of these things, every wizard can). Until we depose the jewish power structure ruling over Europe/USA/Russia/China, you will likely never be able to go a day without hearing about some type of doom-scenario that is somehow meaningfully threatening human existence. Accept that reality. Accept that we are under 1920s Soviet-Communist levels of propaganda and this will likely continue to worsen as the controllers become more and more afraid. Don't forget that they successfully conditioned Boomers through the constant marketed specter of "nuclear war" with (((Soviet Russia))) … yet time has proven this was an empty threat, and nothing ever actually came of this (not to mention that nukes don’t even exist, they are themselves a jewish scarecrow).
Finally, take the absolute best care of your physical health that you can. Do not kill yourself.
No.297874
>>297852from above:
a lot of people are thinking about suicide right now. the world has become uniquely almost crushingly dark. i know this might be cheap advice, but really try sitting in a comfy chair or lying in a relaxing bed and for 2 hours allowing all your breathing to come down to a controlled level, and exactly thereupon examining all of your thinking so to purify it of all unnecessary fear and panic, seeing only what truly matters.
it is within your power to wipe out the panic, if you can calm down your thought process. establish what is actually important: are you healthy? do you have a safe place to sleep at night? do you have food to eat? if you can answer yes to these questions, there exists no need to kill yourself. i am praying very intently for all wizards to be as strong as possible as we battle against the judeo-masonic forces of satan.
No.297875
>>297872>>297874Like I said in a thread I made earlier. I can't get off /pol/. I just keep browsing obsessively. I feel like I'm on the verge of throwing up. It's all so scary.
No.297879
>>297875/pol/ is an ideational minefield that is continually shaped and fed by many competing parties (cia, eglin trannies, anons, etc.). I would also argue that it is designed to be addictive (ie, constantly refreshing the catalogue for new threads, reinforcing echoing refrains from users of "you are here forever"). If you don't know how to intelligently navigate that battleground/minefield – moving wisely within such a fast shifting informational environment – and equally if you don't know how to moderate the hunger for the knowledge of new evanescent events, you will end up neurotically transfixed under the regenerating weight of endless propaganda.
For instance, here are a few titles of threads that I went through just within the last 10 minutes:
1 So is this the end of Trump's hyperfixation on tariffs?
2 Are Americans okay? Like mentally speaking.
3 lmao imagine doordashing in ukraine
4 Marry a prostitute
5 TOM BRADY AND SNOOP DOGG ARE STANDING UP TO ANTISEMITISM!!!
6 FBI GOES TO WAR WITH TRUMP!!!
7 buccal fat removal gives succubi ayylmao faces
8 Boomers steal and impregnate zoomettes in America.
9 IT WORKED, WHITE MEN ARE JOINING THE ARMY!!!
10 Insider here. Most honorable and respected Chinese president browsing pol now.
11 Why are American prison inmates so GAY compared to those of other nations?
12 HAPPENING: Redditors are about to get Chitted!
13 Who elected this guy?
14 I want to remind everyone that I love you. You, I love you.
15 ITS FUCKING OVER!!! TRUMP GOT PERMISSION TO USE MILITARY IN MEXICO!!!
16 NIGGERS ENVY INDIANS???
This is a sketch of the quality of content on /pol/ right now as I type. If you can't discern that most of this content merits nor your time nor your concern, I really don't know what to say.
No.297880
>>297879I think it would just be best if I close /pol/ and focus on a different board or website entirely. It's not helping me mentally and I'm just obsessing over things I can't control. Thanks for the talk, it helped.
No.297921
>>2978794chan became slop post 2016.
No.297922
>>297879>lmao imagine doordashing in ukrainehehe
No.297983
tired
No.298161
>>297983WIZ NAP! In truth I could use a good nap myself right about now.
No.298181
Watching cat videos almost always cheer me up :)
Hope to get a familiar some day.
No.298462
>>297921it seems like it's even worse now.
jews just suicided the whole world under the cover of a fake pandemic and now apparently everyone has forgotten about it and instead is talking about zion don and his dramatized treatment of the satanic jewkrainian midget. really no good content.
No.298520
no gluten = healthy body.
No.298521
>>297852Fast two weeks like that other wizard around here! That's how you know if your shit has solution at all! I take a lot of effort to fast at beyond 3 days, it's insane…
No.298523
>>2770071) You are regarded in terms of honor.
2) Already determined that "closed taste" is my best option, gluten does not affect me. I still take care, just in case.
3) Whoever spends his life wageslaving while not being built for such tasks, will not be able to properly rest. That is the type of person that needs to go to bed with some energy inside.
4) Dental care is holy. And tragically forgotten within these circles.
5) About fresh air:
https://annapurnaliving.com/blog/the-ambrosial-hours6) I wonder how newbies here these year are still unlectured about nosebreathing
7) Our regrets seem to have life of their own.
No.298709
>>298521be careful with this. also make sure you are drinking plenty of water always (whether you're fasting or not). but with all such said still intermittent fasting is probably better than one long extended fast.
No.298865
>>298709Intermittent fasting intermittently practiced is a good healthful practice everyone should ideally follow.
No.299688
Thanks for this thread.
No.299751
What's a good healthy wizardly meal? I need to change my eating habits.