/dep/ - Depression

>>290227
>I'm afraid of PSSD.
That's part of what I defined as "extremely rare cases".
It's quite unlikely that you're going to get stuff like that. If you are very sensitive to drugs you probably know it already by now.

>>283944
Only non bs antidepressants are wellbutrin and maybe DXM if taken properly. SSRIs and SNRIs zombify you, you will see how much time you lost years after the fact. It's better to stimulate or dissociate to get a better frame of mind. I'd even say abilify can do wonders, since it resensitizes your dopamine receptors. But taking that every single day is insanity and equal to getting lobotomized. Whoever reads this, do some careful research before going in. You can lose years of your life on the wrong meds.

>>290272
i wish i had tried wellbutrin but i pussied out because one of the side effects was fainting

>>283944
I had the exact opposite effect on Sertraline. I gained fucktons of weight while I was on it and now I have nasty ass stretch marks everywhere. Never again.

>>290272
>You can lose years of your life on the wrong meds.
it's not like most people here have goals or things like that

>>290299
shut up retard. if you want to die, then die. don't preach that it's ok for wizards to shave years off their life just because you don't value yours

>>290300
It's irrelevant whether you die at 88 or 91 - wizard or not.

What matters is having a good quality of life between 20-50 (60 if still healthy).

If that means eating some unhealthy foods or taking mood stabilizers, who cares if it shaves off a year or two from the opposite end of the curve.

>>290305
>What matters is having a good quality of life between 20-50
>If that means eating some unhealthy foods or taking mood stabilizers
No, I won't eat junk food and ruin my brain with psychiatric pills to help stabilize my mood from eating shit that's bad for my body.
I will lead a healthy life, eat healthy, exercise, sleep well, and do things that are meaningful to me. Fuck off with your nigger advice.

>>290308
We're like animals in a zoo. Achieving the healthy lifestyle that we are genetically fit for is literally impossible. A lion trapped in a cage having panic attacks will likely be better off with some medication; he doesnt have the option to move into the wild.

You can't just 'will' yourself into doing all those things. Many people say thats what they want, but they cant do it. For example many people they want to lose weight - and fail.
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Often the only options achievable for certain people will involve what you refer to as nigger advice. This is especially true because we live in a malicious hell world which imposes many constraints on us, including unfixable physical and mental illnesses, slavery, horrific living environments, unavailability of healthy food, etc. Good luck actually finding healthy food in this modern society.

>>290308
Fella, if you don't have these problems, why bother with this thread? Not many people have the mental faculties and ease or energy to live such a lifestyle. Some people need stimulants to wipe the floor and keep a place tidy. Are you just gonna steamroll over every new comment now?

>>290300
>if you want to die, then die
Ah you meant "losing years" in that sense? I thought you meant "losing years" in the sense that you are zombified by the drug and you can't do your hobbies, goals, or whatever.
That's why I replied like that.
Antidepressants don't actually make you die younger, so I don't really know what you're talking about. Yes they do increase a bit chances of heart attacks or stuff like that, but in the same way that what you eat does, I think it's irrelevant, not at the point where you could say that you're gonig to die sooner.

>>290314
>Good luck actually finding healthy food in this modern society.
I eat plenty of healthy food, daily. Where the fuck do you live that you need to replace healthy food with pills?

> Achieving the healthy lifestyle that we are genetically fit for is literally impossible
says who?

>>290314
>Being healthy is slightly less easy than aeting slop and doing nothing, therefor all hope is lost

Just admit you want to be a human bullfrog and wallow fatly in your own shartwater

>>290341
Modern vegetables and factory animals are genetically deformed and mutilated compared to what they used to be, full of pesticides/antibiotics, engineered for profit and mass production until much of the nutritious qualities are gone. If you dont have your own farm and sought rare seeds then it's over for you. Well, even then the rainwater over the whole earth is contaminated and unsafe to drink: https://phys.org/news/2022-08-rainwater-unsafe-due-chemicals.html

>>290230
I think you are right that the main reason behind the mass marketing of SSRI drugs is depopulation. PSSD has been known for quite some time, but the doctors who peddle these drugs to foolishly trusting patients have been instructed to downplay both the incidence and severity of the condition (which is literally a chemically-induced impotence along with concomitant genital anesthesia). The pharmaceutical companies behind their manufacture and marketing are (((the same people))) behind the covid vaccines, and they seem to be super-humanly fixated on lowering the population density of all goyim, but especially the white goyim who naturally feel sad living in a jewish hell-reality infected with lies everywhere.

>>290343
> If you dont have your own farm and sought rare seeds then it's over for you. Well, even then the rainwater over the whole earth is contaminated and unsafe to drink
The soil too, so if you farm your stuff you're still going to get the same cancer that you get from the things you buy at the supermarket.
Still, eating vegetables and being careful with sugar and carbs is a smart thing to do, for those who possess the required willpower to do so.
I certainly don't lol, getting out of bed is already enough of a chore.

>>290365
There you go with misinformation and the usual conspiracy bs…

>>283944
Did you make this thread 3 months ago op ?
https://redch.net/pha/thread/3.html

I was pretty scared to start on SSRIs because of how much people shit talk them online, but I've been on them a couple months and feel a lot better actually. My anxiety related symptoms are way better. I feel like I have more energy and am generally less depressed and can enjoy things more. No change in my sex drive, other side effects are pretty minor like waking up at night sometimes. It feels like life just sucks less. I know that it can be different from person to person and some drugs are better than others but I don't really see why people act like these are the most harmful things in the world.

>>290648
Placebo and the return to the mean are a powerful thing. Many people go to the doctor and get their prescription at a low point, so things will naturally likely improve in the following months. I could have easily written exactly the same post as you. But over time the darker effects showed, life got worse again, and only after i stopped taking the meds did i realise it was harming me

>>290648
Not taking pills became political and always had an element of ego/personal identity
It’s like everything else in the world now, tedious

>>290648
>>290648
This is a jew who is actively attempting to sterilise wizards. This is false testimony. moneatur sapiens.

For anyone even thinking about taking SSRI poison first read this :

https://www.reddit.com/r/PSSD/

>>290668
But isn't it rare? Like less than 1% type territory.

>>290670
I maintain that it is not. I think the claimed rarity of the disorder is a marketing tactic to disarm the doubtful. Also the embarrassing nature of the problem discourages many from speaking out openly. These drugs were used to chemically lobotomise sex criminals before they were offered to the public. Please visit PSSD fora to see for yourself.

>>290671
But I've visited other antidepressant forums and PSSD is like one small thread, while there are thousands other threads with people who don't have it. People would've noticed. Like literal millions people use these drugs, it's not like it's a niche thing, every other normie uses that.

>>290672
There's less of 1% of people that even get insane side effects from benzos like Hell-level akathisia.
There are tons of crazy stuff around, bug again, it's super rare.

The 99.9% of people that are doing fine when taking drugs are condemned to hear from these other unlucky dudes that these drugs are dangerous, etc
kek

The real problem is that they are mostly ineffective.
Antidepressants for example are placebos, benzos only work for non-severe anxiety, antipsychotics make you a walking zombie, etc

Psychiatry is stuck in 1970.

>>290700
If I genuinely don't believe SSRIs can help and my Doctor would only prescribe SSRIs because it's their only way to treat depression, what can I do? Just kill myself?

>>290718
>my Doctor would only prescribe SSRIs because it's their only way to treat depression
It's the only way to treat depression that allows them to receive money on commission from whichever brand of SSRI they prescribe. Why would they suggest a solution or cure if it means you stop visiting them? Patients are customers and customers are money.

>what can I do? Just kill myself?
Make changes in your lifestyle.
- Eat differently.
- Move differently.
- Consume different media.
- Create different things.
- Go someplace else.
Anyone who suggests that these things are useless or undoable due to the depression are liars and thieves (they're stealing your essence)

>>290719
It's not that they are technically undoable, it's learned helplessness and addiction to misery that are huge obstacles. Of course if you put a gun to my head I'd do something. But I need to believe and trust myself to make any change. It's hard when I've not had trust for so long.

>>290720
I've yet to put it into action because I have no willpower but my advice is:

you need to build confidence in yourself by setting small achievable goals. You will be surprised at what you can do.

>>290720
>But I need to believe and trust myself
Until then, believe in us who believe in you. Trust us when we say that you can overcome most of your problems by making small adjustments to your lifestyle and routine that you know, logically, are for the better.

>>290726
>Trust us when we say that you can overcome most of your problems by making small adjustments to your lifestyle and routine
lol

>>290731
Faggot

>>290755
You've mistaken me for someone else.

>>290668
I'm not having sex anyway so who cares.

>>290837
you get more wiz points the more sex you could be having but arent

I got on vilazadone and it actually increased my libido. I measured how much I fap and went from fapping around every other day to fapping once or twice a day.

>>290881
>once or twice a day.
slow down even if it did increase your libdo

Zoloft saved my life. Now i don't really need it right now, i take a very small dose just because, but im grateful i took it in the last years.

I don't know why wizards hate antidepressants so much, its literally life hack. If you don't PLEASE go get the right AD for you and take it for at least 5 years, i promise your life will be so much easier.

>>291532
Bait. Those placebos are mostly playing your metabolism off, making you fatter and addicted.
>link related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlFA0ltoHxw
>and so on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMswExJ3CjI

So i plan to get on SSI (neetbux) i actually am MDD but dont want to take the meds. What should i tell the doc to make him think im treatment resistant?

>>291545
>What should i tell the doc to make him think im treatment resistant?
Tell no word a decent knife is enough to make the right impression

>>291532
wizzies, i'm getting tired of this jew. he is everywhere attempting to cajole us into poisoning ourselves with both mind-rotting ideas and body-rotting "medicine." please visit the linked subreddit if any of you shall have become stupid enough to consider ingesting ssri poison.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PSSD/

>>291556
This entire thread is full of mentally ill people and junkies who swear some drug "saved" their lives. You should just hide it.

Serotonin agonism is a very bad fix. It's a dope neurotransmitter, makes you passive and sedate but not necessarily any better. The way these pills are distributed to the public as if they were actually anti-depression is actually criminal.

BDNF agonism
Dopa sensitization
Serotonin sensitization
anti-inflammatory
That's the sort of formula that would help with the dep. Simply flooding some guy's brain with serotonin is like the normie equivalent of what an AP does to a schizo, zombifying them

>>291630
so in other words
omega-3
agmatine
noopept
st john's wort
l-tryptophan
uridine

take those together and you'll probably get results

those dumb fucks talk shit on meds. Not even 50 years ago they would be FORCED by their family to do a lobotomy. Thats how things worked back then, and if you go back in time it was even worse due to ignorance

my god i hate dumb, ignorant people so much. you are lucky to live this day and age and have the privilege of people treating you normal when you are clearly an idiot

>>291655
you're a moron, leave

Saphis so far has been the worst thing I've taken, and now I've been scared off taking anything else for the most part. Relinquishing myself to medication again feels like the cuts of monotony in The Seventh Continent but scenes filled with pallid walls and overbearingly bright lights, fake conversations with the doctor and a complete inability to explain myself. Meds can help sometimes, but generally hurt quite a lot as well. Hence the reason I take nothing anymore apart from clonazepam daily. The only reason I keep paying my psychiatrist every 3-4 months is just to get some benzo refills because taper and withdrawal is genuinely so awful. The taper from Saphris may have been worse, though. Sweating, shaking, dissociation, an even furthering of an unstable mood. Being on the drug was not much better, though. I was having constant visual distortions, any form of stress felt amplified by ten, it was absolutely unbearable. The previous antipsychotic I was on, Vraylar (had to stop due to urinary retention), got me back into exercise and cycling but Saphris ruined that for me. I just reverted back to my shutin ways and didn't leave the house for about 8 months after I started, including tapering off. I don't feel that much better, but it's a vast improvement to what it was before. There seem to be some lasting problems like insomnia, anxiety, visual distortions, and tinnitus in my left ear (but that's probably just earwax buildup and unrelated), and maybe dizziness? I remember getting vertigo a lot with panic attacks while on it but I'm unsure if that's just a trait and it had been so long since my panic attacks were so consistent that I've forgotten. I'm falling into a depressive episode again and have lots of Latuda, and it works as an antidepressant but it makes me a bit unstable when the dosage creeps up. I mean the whole reason I stopped taking it was due to severe suicidal urges going up to 60mg. I still felt a bit depressed at 20, so it was upped to 40mg and it had abated for a little while but something still felt off. 40mg made severe depression manageable, but the akathisia sucked and so did the intolerance to heat. I got a bit chunky on it too, which now some of the weight I've lost but I tend to fluctuate a lot lately. I'm really hesitant to try anything new anymore, and I don't have insurance.

tl;dr don't take saphris that shit sucks man

ssri = castrating jew poison
covid vaccine = depopulating jew poison

>>291655
More than 13% of people take the jew pills. How many got lobotomies? 0.1%?
Further, 50 years ago most of us would be fine and able to get some easy job and buy a house in a year