No.286871
how many years is reasonably long to wait to see if life will turn itself around, for a rational suicide?
No.286875
>>28687368 is enough usually where did you take your number?
No.286888
>>286875He probably counts the first 12 months of life as year 1, so total months worth of life would still be 68.
No.286889
We are so worried about trolls trolling wizards into suicide. what about trolling them into living to 68 on the promise it gets better? back in 2015 they said waiting for Batman v Superman to come out was worth living for.
No.286891
>>286888Thank you for the explanation!
No.286895
>>286889GTA VI will fix everything. Just another year or two, stay strong wizzies!
No.286896
>>286889AI will allow jobs to get automated and produces surplus wealth to be redistributed bro. We'll get AI gf and immersive video games.
No.286903
I have sodium nitrite but i'm not sure how pure it is. What's the worst that can happen from a failed suicide attempt using this method?
No.286905
too scared and weak to even suicide, so the suffering continues for me.
No.286935
>>286895I fucking hate you and everyone like you
No.286950
Start a new job tomorrow. Im pretty sick. Also very poor and hungry. I've been very seriously thinking of ending it. With my first paycheck i can go buy a rifle, a tarp, find somewhere to set up and blow my head off finally. I have wanted to for years and years, and I keep ending up back in the same spot. I think i was supposed to go through with it the 1st time, and i really wish i had. Ive always wanted to either blow brains out or else jump in front of a train. I saw bullet trains a few days ago. Such overwhelming speed, force, and power. I imagined myself jumping in front of one and smiled a sincere smile for the first time in a long while. I guess jumping in front a train is kind of a dick move, not that i particulatly feel the capacity to care. Intellectually maybe, but really i don't care if it causes problems or traumatizes anyone. I just want to die mostly, nothing else
No.286974
>A 32 year old male arrived at a coconut shop in a public place in the afternoon. Coconut vendor being busy with other customers, taking advantage of the situation the deceased grasped the knife, routinely used for cutting coconuts and cut his throat with that knife in the presence of many people at the venue.
Coconut king 🥥
No.287008
>>2868715 years if it doesn't change by then despite your best efforts it's without a doubt over. Hey if u living for hedonism enjoying life getting old and offing once the illness and physical get's to much is also a way
No.287011
>>286896Once you become useless what do you think our elite overlords and their ai will do
No.287029
>>287014In the short term to prevent revolts probaly but not for long we'll may see man-made horrors beyond our comprehension. I probaly be dead before then i hope you are too
No.287030
>>287029“If the world were a paradise of luxury and ease, a land flowing with milk and honey, where every Jack obtained his Jill at once and without any difficulty, men would either die of boredom or hang themselves; or there would be wars, massacres, and murders; so that in the end mankind would inflict more suffering on itself than it has now to accept at the hands of Nature.”
― Arthur Schopenhauer, Studies in Pessimism
No.287051
>>287029Yes. I love the first order consequences of UBI. It is perfect at such level. It makes so much sense that increased human efficiency should mean that most people dont have to work; they can simply be supported by the machines and few people that do work.
However, once you consider the dark sides of human behaviour, the history of government, and the fact that UBI makes plebs completely dependent on government… it is very scary.
Plebs are already far down the path toward domestication - from wolves, to deformed cattle that physically cant survive in any environment beyond a nightmarish slaughterhouse.
No.287056
>>287051Well the Roman Empire gave the plebs free bread, it used to give them free flour to make their own bread, but they got so lazy they needed the bread made for them. And here we are in 2024 USA with 2000 years of tech econ progress, and it can't provide the level of welfare state that Rome did. Yeah there are food stamps, but those aren't for all citizens. ABAWDs are explicitly rejected.
https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/ABAWD/waivers No.287057
how to purchase a gun after involuntary hospital stay?
No.287102
I have some shit wheremy arteries can't supply my brain properly, it manifested a week ago and I feel like shit the whole week. It's pretty bad that I'm 25 and I already have health problems like that but the final straw was my parents telling me that I'm making it up and they refuse to go see a doctor. I'd do it myself but right now I can't walk around my flat and even standing up feels like I gonna drop dead. Despite that, they are more concerned that I want to take sick leave for my job. I'm just pissed that people I trusted the most don't want to help me in any way and even more they are shitting on me because my condiotion is made up (or so they thing, I did all the tests when at least I could walk around more).
I didn't want to kill myself becusee I thought it would make my mom sad, but rn nobody cares that I can't even stand up properly, so I don't think it would be a huge deal for them that I die. Maybe they would be embarrassed in front of other people, cause suicide is inherently a shameful abd taboo thing.
No.287103
>>287011Free Euthanasia! Hurray!
No.287104
>>287102Curious, how do you know it's "your arteries"? Have you gotten medical tests? I know that feel of having your old folks abandon you at your lowest and say you're making it up. My faggot dad nagged me for over a year to get the covid vaccine, so I took it despite already having had covid months before and recovering fully. Big mistake, a month after that I went on my bimonthly hike and had chest pain and trouble breathing. Since then my symptoms worsened for a year, I couldn't stand up either and had diarrhea for months. I'm better now, but I will never forgive this piece of shit for giving me a lifelong chronic immune condition.
While I do not know the specifics of your medical condition, I can almost assure you it's possible to get better. I myself am better than I was back then, not fully recovered but much more functional. The question remains, why fucking bother right? Anyway, sounds like you got orthostatic intolerance / dysautonomia. Most likely from repeated covid infections, it affects your blood vessels big time, unfortunately some people are simply more vulnerable no matter what they do or don't.
No.287105
>>287104I did ultrasound and MRI, they both showed that the arteries of my brain are narrowed. I don't think it's anything life-threatening but I have trouble just moving around and I don't think I will be able to go to work next week. My parents nagging at me for lying in bed, even though I have trouble doing anything at all. And they are adamant I'm making it up eve though I have results of mri and ultrasound that I did before
No.287144
>>287105You had a head MRI? How much did that cost? Surprised the doctors even agreed to do that for you instead of chastising you considering my experience with them. Especially because "you're young" (for now), at 25.
Why don't you just show your parents the results? ideally on paper.
No.287221
If I lived in Canada or Switzerland, I'd have applied for assisted suicide a long time ago.
No.287227
opinions on the SS onion website?
do they require bothersome, arbitrary and infuriating vetto process to let you join?
No.287232
>>287227They rejected me and I used the original subreddit. I get the feeling you need to give a long emotional message justifying why you want to be part of the community. I gave them a relatively short but true account of being suicidal, and they rejected me from my home ip and normal email which they asked you to do.
No.287271
Suicide is fucked up, you will rot in that coffin from worms. That room is so tight you can't move around it. Don't do it.
No.287420
>>287416
The fact that you unironically call them "Elite" instead of something like "Underminers" speaks volumes of just how bluepilled you still are.
No.287427
>>287416
Ah so you'll be joining the National Socialists of Azov I presume
No.287428
>>287416
Hitler probably will be vindicated, but I increasingly wonder if it will necessitate the complete death of the European genome as we know it. I don't think some rabid white uprising will happen in my lifetime at least (I'm around 40 and not very fit), but I also kinda doubt things will improve within my kid-brothers' lifetimes.
No.287429
>>287416
>filename
You realize that the Nazis would 100% put all wizards into a gas chamber, right?
No.287434
>>287429Hitler was (is) a wizard himself.
No.287435
>>287428I hope some rabid White uprising happens, its the only thing keeping me going most days. Don't give up hope!
No.287436
>>287292
This is a suicide thread not a murder thread, we gotta stop this guy from waging his personal war.
No.287560
Any sources for SN
No.287561
>>287560It's used in plenty of cans at your local grocery store I'm sure.
No.288189
How many wizards actually kill themselves? I feel like I am reaching the end of the wizard lifestyle. I’m starting to get sick of living just for the sake of it, I’ve exhausted most of the things which once brought me joy, and I’m unwilling and unable to reenter society. I’m wondering if this is a common feeling for wizards or if they just get jobs and become normal people without thinking about it.
No.288195
What are some ways to die semi-naturally? Examples are people who die from heart failure due to obesity, or those who die of liver failure from drinking too much. I don't want to be fat and I don't like alcohol so what else is there?
The idea of it being a long-term suicide and legally not a suicide at all is appealing to me.
No.288278
I want to shove a dagger in my chest
No.288279
have you ever been at the metro and get yourself staring at the tracks flirting with that morbid but cathartic thought. it's calling, pulling, it's almost as if im looking at the eyes of the devil and he's hypnotizing me
No.288356
Day: “Today, for every 1 suicide, approximately 3,476,189 people did not commit suicide.”
Week: “This week, for every 1 suicide, approximately 495,237 people did not commit suicide.”
Month: “This month, for every 1 suicide, approximately 114,285 people did not commit suicide.”
Year: “This year, for every 1 suicide, approximately 9,523 people did not commit suicide.”
Decade: “This decade, for every 1 suicide, approximately 951 people did not commit suicide.”
Lifetime: “In an average lifetime, for every 1 suicide, approximately 117 people did not commit suicide.”
When you look at the figures suicides and even deaths from drugs and drink aren’t that high.
No.288361
>>288278I've heard more than one story where someone stabbed themselves in an attempt to fake being assaulted, only to accidentally kill themselves. Makes me wonder how easy that method is.
No.288362
if I didn't already know some day I will die for certain, I would've killed myself a thousand times over.
No.288372
I want to die but Im too much of a pussy to kms. I fear death, but what I fear even more is living this shit life up to my 70s or 80s. Unfortunately this is what will likely happen
No.288373
>>288372the worst is when you're so decrypt you get sent to a hospital bed, and it becomes impossible and illegal to die or escape and you just have to suffer through all pains for decades
No.288394
>>288373Yeah this is utter bullshit. Why dont they just les us die, or better, help us die painlessly?
Its not like they have any valid reason not to. Suicidal people more often that not are unproductive to society anyway so theyre a burden for their relatives and society at large. (Not that I care, I just wanted to highlight the irrationality of it)
Its not like they actually give a shit about suicidal people either. Theyre just going through their bullshit job.
No.288448
>>287434He was literally married to a succubus
No.288627
Did some more calculations on suicide in England and Wales for 2022. Data is from official sources, which is a little wonky they say, and I might have fucked it up.
0.8-1% of people will commit suicide in their lifetime based on current numbers.
In 2022. All references to "population" here means population aged 10 or over
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Percentage of the population that died : 1.07%.
Percentage of the population that committed suicide: 0.0106%
Absolute number of the population who died : 574,158.
Percentage of total deaths that were due to suicide: 0.98%.
Absolute number of the population who died by suicide: 5,642
Absolute number of the population who did not die by suicide: 53,420,296
Percentage of the population that did not commit suicide: 99.9894%
To transport the total number of suicide deaths you would need:
Approximately 1 cruise ship (using Symphony of the Seas).
Approximately 7 commercial planes (using Airbus A380)
Approximately 80 double decker buses
Ages 20-24:
Estimated Suicide Deaths This Year: 364
Total Deaths Including Suicide: 1,277
Percent of Deaths That Are Suicide: 28.50%
Total Population: 3,603,960
Population Not Died by Suicide: 3,603,596
Percent of Population Death by Suicide: 0.0101%
Ages 25-29:
Estimated Suicide Deaths This Year: 455
Total Deaths Including Suicide: 1,653
Percent of Deaths That Are Suicide: 27.53%
Total Population: 3,922,414
Population Not Died by Suicide: 3,921,959
Percent of Population Death by Suicide: 0.0116%
Ages 30-34:
Estimated Suicide Deaths This Year: 548
Total Deaths Including Suicide: 2,539
Percent of Deaths That Are Suicide: 21.58%
Total Population: 4,183,206
Population Not Died by Suicide: 4,182,658
Percent of Population Death by Suicide: 0.0131%
Ages 35-39:
Estimated Suicide Deaths This Year: 548
Total Deaths Including Suicide: 3,564
Percent of Deaths That Are Suicide: 15.38%
Total Population: 4,059,259
Population Not Died by Suicide: 4,058,711
Percent of Population Death by Suicide: 0.0135%
- All age groups data :
https://pastes.io/raw/3a0pxjqfsm No.288650
>>288195Dehydration. It's also pretty long term (and requires lots of determination or desperation), but you should be dead within a week +- a day. As far as I have heard, first couple of days are painful, but then comes 'euphoric' feeling and your doze off all the time until you are dead.
then again, it is for people with steel resolve. I wouldn't be able to do it, despite being quite desperate.
No.288722
What are your thoughts on a suicide note? On one hand, I don't want my parents to live the rest of their days wondering why I did it. On the other, I don't want them to know that their son committed suicide because he's a complete loser who wasted his life and a genetic failure in every meaningful way. I've been faking being a normalfag: I have a degree, a job, my own place. I'd prefer them to think that I had some sort of treatable mental illness.
No.288726
>>28862725-29 is probably going to be the hardest part of my life as a Gen Z. God I can't wait for the fucking disaster I will be in 2028
No.288730
What are some bucket list things to do in the last months before suicide?
No.288743
>>288732The housing market is only becoming more expensive. There will probably be a crash before 2030 so that should make it easy to get a house.
No.288756
Saw in the news how one guy fell from the 15th floor and survived as the car roof softened his fall. He's been suicidal and in critical condition now with neck injuries. Suicide fail.
No.288757
>>288756if theres one rule of suicide its go for the overkill not the good enough. dont just jump from a tall building, but the tallest in the world that can be accessed.
No.288758
>>288757There are vertical mineshafts that are deeper than the tallest building is high.
No.288759
>>288758can the public access it?
No.288760
>>288759Anyone can access anything. Who cares if we're breaking the law? We'll be dead.
No.288761
>>288760they'll shoot you at the entrance
No.288787
I’ve stopped seeing suicide as a bad thing. Nietzsche in Beyond Good and Evil says that waiting to die naturally is just a suicide by natural causes, since we all know death is inevitable. It seems to me that NEETing until I am either forced to wage or get sick of rotting in my room and then killing myself isn’t that much different from living a long life and dying the normal way. It’s both just taking your way of life to its inevitable end.
No.289014
What about suicide by caffeine overdose? I've seen newsreels on YouTube reporting on kids who died from drinking too many caffeinated drinks within a couple of hours and I think it may be an effective, surreptitious way to commit suicide and not have it reported as one.
No.289016
>>289014Too much caffeine can make you psychotic, not even joking, you won't die, but you will become a schizo.
No.289017
>>289014Ive taken a very long list of drugs, and caffeine overdose has to be one of the worst experiences ive had. I can hardly think of a worse way to try to kill yourself. At best it would be like a very prolonged panic attack culminating in intense horrific chest pain
No.289185
>>289014i've overdosed on modafinil a couple times, absolutely awful, i stayed awake for 6 days. stimulant overdose doesn't kill you, just makes you psychotic for days. if you want to die from drugs you need opiates like fentanyl or heroin
No.289193
what i learned about suicide is that you can waste years in depression thinking you're going to die, and all you did was make things worse for yourself.
even when you feel or believe you will take your own life one day, its important to keep doing some basic minimum things to maintain the physical integrity of your body. because pain aversion.
i'm not a particularly strong person, where i get a lot of motivation from is pain avoidance, because of many health problems from a young age i know how suffering is and can be, i understand in a known way, not an abstract vague intellectual way, what suffering comes from the body breaking down, and what awaits people if they dont do basic maintenance and they keep living.
lots of people that want to die, keep living, think of all the billions living in third world holes, with much worse lifes in every way, still living. its not so easy, i have been through a lot made attempts i never thought would be here to see my 30's and they almost done.
live, at least as far as not doing the bad things, and doing some of the good things, health and nutrition related, as though you will actually be using that body for a very very long time. because you may.
it is an absolute retard and only young wizard apprentice angsty take to give up and revel in depression and how bad lives are. that's cool and edgy when youre young and not even a wizard. later on its not its very real, you will deal with your body betraying you because you betrayed it.
if you mistreat the body, your life will be very very bad and you won't be a cool wizard you will be a sickly dying depression gross person in a lot of pain mental and physical. its a fact that the many support networks and health interactions normals have do act as buffers and guard against disease.
leave the fast food and the drinking and the hedonism to the normals, wizard-kind can and must do better.
No.289225
The Kenneth Law sodium nitrate thing is going to get weirder up it seems. He wasn’t only sending people sodium nitrate through the post for suicide, he also advised individuals over emails putting pressure on them to buy it, he gave advice to people emailing him saying they were going to kill themselves with it. He also seems to have had false accounts where he pretended to be a doctor, private messaging people links to his exit bag selling site and his sodium nitrate site, encouraging people to do it, acting as an experienced doctor telling people how to do it and how safe it was.
His charges have been upgraded to a dozen murder proper because of his other actions, and supposedly internationally there’s a few hundred that he shipped to have died without confirmation of if they died using his nitrate. He was actually in huge amounts of debt before he started selling suicide kits and chems, and he made enough money to cover it; while people may be thankful for him sending it the case that he’s a bit of an asshole with bad intentions might be true.
Sanctioned suicide being used as a site where a dude “murdered” people by encouraging them to suicide and then selling them the stuff for personal gain, will probably have some more pressure on them. It’s always been an issue in the old suicide newsgroups etc where people would be bad actors encouraging suicide for their own pleasure, him sending out 1000+ packages while actively trying to encourage people is a pretty big step up I guess.
Potentially he will be an international serial killer on the books, weird.
No.290146
>>286861I am 18 years old and I am thinking about killing myself for more than an year now. I have a question for old fags, will things get better?
No.290150
>>290146Things get better but you have to start doing the things you like and take care of yourself and let go of irrational and negative beliefs. Some people love to dig their own grave and then wonder how they ended up there.
No.290221
>>289193You have no idea how hard it is to shed body fat % when literally the only dopamine source in your life is food. You are alone at home 24/7 just waiting to die.
I did it anyway and dropped from 115kg to 75kg. It was the best decision of my life.
Still can't believe how agile, light and healthy I feel now. All the brain fog went away as well.
1 year later I got my first job as well. The employer said I was literally the only applicant who looked like he doesn't sit in front of a pc all day.
How wrong he was. But I got the job (stocking and forklifting) and am out of poverty now.
No.290268
>>290146No, it's getting worse every year I should've done it years ago
No.290270
>>290221Two questions for you wiz. First, were you overweight your whole life and then managed to lose it? Second is, how much weight did you have to lose until the brain fog started to get better?
No.290271
>>290146Nah, but you just get used too it, literally as you get older and the more shit kicked in, your brain won't respond as much so you'll be numb to the pain, have fun buddy
No.290276
>>290270Not all my life, but I started binging on potato chips, cookies, chocolate, ice cream when I was about 18.
That's when I realized I'm too autistic to fit in with normals and just shut away from the world.
I'm still grateful junk food exists, it's what kept me alive. My only source of happiness for more than a decade.
As for when I started feeling the brain fog disappear, it was around the 85kg mark.
Below 80kg my mind was as clear as it was as a teenager, it was like being reborn.
I was also able to run up the stairs to my aparment, when as a fat guy just walking up a single flight of stairs was painful and took my breath away.
No.290596
>>290594https://web.archive.org/web/20240104213706/http://lostallhope.com:80/suicide-methods/hanging/short-drop/simple-suspensionLost all hope recently went down , way back machine to the rescue.
Still, you sure you don't wanna just get some printer paper, mechanical pencil, reading some Andrew Loomis, just upload some cam shots of your doodles and try becoming a drawfag? If you don't have a fucked up wrist like me, maybe some hope. Worth a shot at least.
Either way I understand the feeling. Thinking and planning about hanging myself has been giving me more and more comfort in recent months.
In addition to what's in the article, tree climbing/arborist rope is a good choice. Firm, little stretching and readily available. Seems pretty good from the tests I've done with it.
No.290601
>>290596You got that PDF of how to hang yourself? I'm not suicidal but it was still a very interesting read
No.290604
Only guaranteed way to die is firearm (preferrably shotgun) to the temple. The rest is too unreliable and might be either very painful or male you handicapped instead.
No.290609
>>290596So when you start hanging, it says your body will try to claw at the rope and free itself. But especially when conscious. So my question is, is it actually your unconscious lizard brain on doing these actions to survive? Or do you consciously choose to do this when the pain becomes unbearable? The fact that it happens especially when conscious seems to suggest it's a conscious decision, but it also seems to suggest you do this even when unconscious. So what is it? The thought of your brain, but not you, taking over your body like a puppet creeps me out.
No.290675
Anyone else know that feel of being on a countdown to suicide knowing its just a few months away, and you should do something big like bucket list shit? But then you think, I've had all these decades to do it, if there was anything worth doing, I would have done it already. I've given up all hope, nothing to lose for many years now. If there was any big adventure gamble worth doing, I would have done it. And at this point I just want to get my suicide over with successfully. Optimize for that one goal. Everything else is a distraction. Its like the bucket list of trying shit, is the whole life I've lived up to this point, I wasn't holding back any secret reserves. And yet when each countdown day feels so ordinary, it just gives an unreality to it. Like these days should be special. And I just want S-day to be real this time.
No.290736
>>290604Isn't jumping from a very high building a rather solid option?
How could you ever survive that?
>>290675Not only making a "bucket list", but even just typing this very post you just typed shows that you are not going to kill yourself, you are not in the emotional state to be able to do it, I can guarantee you that 100%.
Like most people writing in these threads.
It's really just venting only.
No.290737
>>290736Why? This time I'm not thinking about philosophy or any grand gestures. I'm just planning the most efficient method to just get the task over with. I'm not letting anything distract me from the goal.
No.290750
Planning to buy my 1st smartphone ever so I can take a uber to my suicide location. I have no idea how it works with plans and shit. But I guess if there is one reason for a Wiz to buy a normphone this is it.
No.290836
How to make it look like an accident?
No.290864
Rereading the complete works of Schopenhauer will help me suicide
No.290939
I can't believe after I suicide, that's it, just blankness, nonthinking, nonbeing, no brain, no consciousness, dreamless sleep. just nothingness. i know it was nothing before i was born. but its still weird to choose to go back to the nothing. theres a sense of curiosity. am i really going to prove there is no afterlife? ive been so certain of atheist darwinist materialism my whole life, just took it for granted, had no doubts.
No.290941
>>290864you absolute turd monkey! schopenhauer was merely a gnostic who wrote in german. he was not wise.
>>290939no one knows what happens after death. take any psychedelic/psychogenic drug and be disabused of strict materialism. please do not kill yourself. please see the somewhat popular anti-suicide general thread.
No.290974
>>290609It is really fucking painful, and you start paniking and the inner lizard in you really want out of this mess, so you start grabing at any opportunity to stay alive, in my case it was that the chair wasnt thrown far einought so i managed to balaqnce on it somehow while trying to untie the knot of the scarf that i used.
t. failed hanging attempt 10 years ago, considering doing a succefull one soon enough, because life lost its meaning for me long before even first suicide attempt, but im a coward and im stile here forn now ,but now additional circumstances are adding to the equation that hopfully would bring me uot of this shithole called life.
No.290994
I used to romanticize living in an insane asylum/ psych ward as the living utopia of Plato's Republic
No.291018
>>290994society is the real insane asylum, everyone who is not insane is branded insane and locked up
No.291075
>>286871I just wish there was a way to objectively know I tried enough, and further investment into life is a waste. I see Wizs talking about it being over as early as the 20s or college graduation. And I'm waaaay past that. But sometimes I regret that maybe being too rational was itself a problem. Like if I had irrationally just kept trying at life, maybe something would have been a miracle.
Once I felt I was beat, I just lost heart, and longed for suicide. You're beat, you're beat. But its like everything I've ever tried has ended in 0, and I can't be expected to make infinite investments with 0 returns forever.
No.291757
>>286861I took to cutting recently, wanting to know if actually cutting deep enough to cause a bleeding wound big enough to make yourself pass out is as easy as prevention media makes it seem.
Is cutting that deep actually feasible? I keep on fighting against the pain hoping to hit a vein or something, but it's pretty useless so far.
Should i just completely ditch this method and attempt something else? Like pretty much anyone, i'm too scared to go for anything super painful
No.291758
>>291757>I took to cutting recentlywhy
No.291759
>>286871If you were miserable until 25 it’s not going to get better from there
No.291760
>>288189The percentage is probably similar to the normie one, so about 1%
No.291769
>>291759My life progressively got worse from 19-30 until it gradually started getting better and better after 31.
Had I just committed suicide at 25 I would have missed out on all kinds of worthwhile things.
No.291770
>worthwhile things.
Are there any?
No.291771
>>291760Why? Seems like a very stupid assumption to make.
No.291780
>>291758being dumb, i guess. Never really hurt myself badly before, so i wanted to know if getting to a vein was feasible
No.291781
There's no reason for wizzies to planeshift unless your doppleganger has incurable injuries or approaching deth (leopard). We have huge technological advancement coming down the pipe - life extension, disease prevention, cognitive advancement, technological heaven, sociopolitical changes. I don't want to miss that just to turn my electrical power plant into a pack of rotting amino acids.
one thing though. If you're about to die go into proximity of a weakly electrically charged field. I'm curious as to whether consciousness can transfer out of body in that situation
No.291784
I was prescribed antidepressants and antipsychotics. I developed tinnitus and now going through withdrawal symptoms. Im afraid Im going to have some permanent side effects, I wish I never took these toxins. I contemplate suicide daily.
No.291785
>>291784I doubt drug sides are permanent. There is a lot of bad information floating around in the anti-psychiatry universe. What they do is alter density and tolerance to various neurotransmitters. What you have once the withdrawal ends is the aftermath of whatever mess your brain was in when you had to go on them. It is a very delicate art but with appropriate study you can identify your neurotransmitter groups and passively add supplements to normalize their balance.
No.291786
>>291785Those drugs are literally neurotoxic, I pretty much had dementia when on them in the end. I havent had proper sleep for weeks, no peace or quiet, random muscle spasms like some pseudo-akathisia. Even if I recover I will feel that I might develop some form of degenerative disease at some point because of these "medications". Its completely abhorent that doctors, shrinks and every other medical practitioner will push drugs on anyone who shows the slightest signs of deviating from the norm and/or is more vulnerable and easily suggestible. I also have Gilberts syndrome which means I dont easily metabolize drugs among other things, benign condition my ass. I only just found this out after the fact.
No.291787
>>291786Yeah, I get it. I don't know what specific drugs you have been taking either since some are worse than others.
Here are some supplements that are useful for brain repair:
ALCAR - massive NGF increase
Lion's mane - NGF, also neurogenesis
NSI-189 - neurogenesis specifically in your hippocampus
Ashwaghanda - Neutrite outgrowth
Curcumin (take w/black pepper) - neutrite IIRC
Pregnenolone - useful for TBI recovery, IE brain health
Noopept or Semax - BDNF
Magnesium threonate - BDNF IIRC
Iodine
B-complex - most people are deficient, very useful
BPC-157 oral capsules - VERY USEFUL compound in wound healing
Omega-3's or ALA - raw material for growth
PS - raw material for growth
Uridine - increase receptor growth
CDP-choline/probably any source choline - grows receptors back
Inositol - sensitizes receptors
Creatine - useful for TBI
Jiaogulan - can recover damaged dopamine pathways
bacopa - creates serotonin receptors
Infrared light cap therapy - gives mitochondria more energy
There are so many options for this its crazy.
No.291788
>>291787oh, and as well
Dihexa - growth factor, very potent
Arginine - amino acid growth hormone
Growth hormone - holy grail of brain growth
(Saunas will also raise GH)
Cardio - 10% growth in brain volume over a year
Meditation - also raises brain volume
It's just a poorly researched field where the interventions have to be stacked in volume, in conjunction with good behaviors, to see good short term results. Standard american lifestyle is bad for the brain wizzie
No.291790
>>291781wait wizchan was taken the reality shifting pill now?
>>291024>yale universityaren't all ivy league unis. a huge joke now, tho?
>>291787>>291788hey longeanon: Does icy showers + sprinting + Iron Body training + Semen retention + Lucid dreaming make a decent or a great stack? all I can pull off, i dont have any non-paper money so i cant buy anything online at all
No.291791
>>291790that guy is specifically asking about how to grow brain volume. You're talking about lifestyle choices which obviously make people happier and everybody should practice.
But really, it's cheaper than people think. The issue with supplements is the cost is up front in a lump sum rather than spread out.
sciencebio dihexa… costs $2 a day @ 10mg daily
sciencebio NSI-189… costs $1.15 a day @ 50mg daily
this is the common cost per supplement.. anywhere from $1-2. Many capsule vitamins are actually higher in capacity than a person necessarily would even need, and can be cut in half to save money or taken in powder to more judiciously spread out. Bulksupplements has all this stuff very very cheap
So for a "brain repair stack", without doing mental math to get the exact price I would do:
Noopept (very cheap) - BDNF
ACLAR - NGF
Dihexa - growth factor (take with quercetin and cycle because this shit could be cancerous)
Quercetin - anticancer agent
Omega 3 or ALA - brain material
Lion's mane - proven cell growth
eggs for choline
Ashwaghanda - neutrite growth
and you'd get by pretty well for maybe $150 a month, would be my guess. You want BDFNF, NGF, the raw materials, and growth factor agonism. It is probably possible to get this at significantly cheaper cost by microdosing, specifically focusing on a few factors rather than a shotgun approach, lifestyle interventions etc.
All I can say for you is maybe consider saunas and meditation. Dual n-back is also a proven way to increase your memory (IQ component) if you are able to commit to daily practice as if it were weight training
No.291792
>>291791oh and the thing with dihexa is, you'd only need a few cycles of it. The HALF LIFE for this substance is 15 days. It's one people should not be on long term but has dramatic short term results for neurorecovery. The lower hanging fruit for optimizing what you have is BDNF, GDNF (which I forgot to list but is gastrodin and royal jelly mainly), NGF (seems to be the one associated with cell growth) at sufficiently high dosages (which should be cycled to prevent downregulation) in a stimulating environment for the brain to optimize itself quicker. Sorry, this is almost like my job to know this stuff at this point
No.291795
>>291791what's your opinions on using Steroids if ,like, you're a 80 year old guy who's really losing all his muscle power\ athleticism? under doctor control of course, but I mean literal steroids not just "TRT"
No.291796
>>291795I don't know much about that area because I don't use contraband substances. They say cruise cycles won't harm you testosterone levels at all. Probably much too intense for an 80 year old, the usual thing they give aging men is DHEA which is a more permissible testosterone booster.
No.291801
>>291787>>291788I have already started takin some of those including Ginko Biloba, B vitamins, NAC, some other anti-oxydants, zinc, etc. Also HBOT and biomodulation therapy, I just feel that whatever mild effect it has I will never truly be the same, to never have peace and be second guessing myself. Tinnitus is probably the worst. I never really researched about nootropics, I used to just take vitamins D,C, calcium and magnesium. I find this will all become really expensive with little gain. Might as well pull the plug and let close ones get the little possessions I have.
I am not even american, pushing drugs seems to be the standard. The worst thing is I dodged the vax and at least know some things about how pharma operates. Ive had depression and anxiety my whole life without any interventions, yet now I caved for the measly promise of neetbux and the outcome is that I lost the little sanity and health and now money that I have. A life filled with regret.
No.291802
>>291801Also taking taurine for my liver now, but Im generally more cautious of synthetic supplements dont want to experiment some more with my brain and body. Im still skeptical about nootropics even though I know little of them.
I would also mention that I was subscribed Sertaline (Zolft) for 1.5 months 25 mg at first and then 50 mg. Then I was subscribed 25 mg Anafranil (Clomipramine) and they pushed me to take 50 mg, with that also Olanzapine (Zyprexa) 2.5 mg and 5 mg for a few times. Took the last ones for about a month.
No.291803
>>291801the ones I'm talking about are proven effective for brain regeneration. I have taken Dihexa, which is a peptide, and the effects were dramatically positive. It's supposedly ten million times stronger than BDNF, and one of the few legal and effective ways to induce massive brain growth in relatively short periods. You have to take it with an anticancer agent (quercetin) and for a short period because many people are concerned about this regeneration being carcinogenic. But if you want brain recovery and growth this is the wonder drug.
I have had similar problems. One of the issues with AP's is that they alter brain neurotransmitter function. Nigrostrital dopamine and certain aspects of serotonin chiefly. I don't know how bad your issues are but defeating negative symptoms is all about getting back your dopaminergic system IMO. Olanzapine is a really bad one for damage, hope you are off it.
No.291808
>>291803I dont want to experiment with further chemicals. Honestly I just want to go back to where I was before.
Yes I quit all the drugs, but I feel the damage is done. Supposedly these drugs can stay in cells. Suicidal ideation, regret and self-hate is all I can feel daily now.
No.291809
>>291808A peptide isn't really a drug in the conventional sense. I used Dihexa to effectively recover from psychosis damages and could feel very positive results in brain communication in two cycles. Anyways, suit yourself…
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=31C438FD77D11758F3C7CF2386858D4COne of the books I found helpful for this and has a good nutrient/supplement section near the end. HBOT is definitely the way to go. I was very aggressive in trying to use supplements to recover function and seem to have run into mild excitotoxicity problems using neurotransmitter-raising supplements, which was quite a stupid idea in retrospect I guess.
While the half life of many drugs, particularly injections, is quite long, they will eventually all excrete.
No.291810
>>291809another one I liked, which might be more acceptable to you if pharma associations are the issue, is semax. It raises dopamine levels which you do have to be careful with but will almost immediately give you a strong sense of drive. It also spikes BDNF significantly, which is a major compound involved in neuroplasticity and recovery. Used for stroke victims, quite safe.
Schizo seems to have all kinds of different causes. Autoimmune problems from disease, lyme, celiac are a prominent hypothesis. It seems like for me excitotoxicity could be caused by heavy metals, toxoplasmosis infections, or covid spike proteins. I don't know what your illness looks like, but many people in true schizo in the celiac camp report benefits from ketogenic diets. There's also the niacin supplementation theory, which I found to be quite useless but evidently helps a subset of cases
No.291812
>>291801No detox, no profit. No matter how nicely your nourish a filthy machine, it will still be filthy
No.291816
>>291812What detox do you suggest?
No.291820
>>291816Do not eat grains. They destroy your mind. That's the reason bread is so popular, it's by far the easiest way to trick people to enter the downward spiral of self destruction by grains.
No.291831
>>291816-Fasting a week
-Or only fruits for a week
-Deleting dairy and starch from your diet whenever eating normally might suppose a significant improvement.
-Do not have breakfast inmediately after waking up neither last supper of the day after 6:00 pm
-Food intake is better when inside a certain time window (just from 8:00 am until 3:00pm, for an example)
-A turmeric spoon before sleeping improves liver function
-Eating trophologically avoids badly digested stuff to accumulate inside the colon. It matters more and more the further you age.
-White meats are usually better than red meats in terms of making your liver and kidney workloads lighter. Less acids in blood (unless they be fish, fish might have metals inside)
No.291893
Theres 8.1 billion people in the world now
I remember when it was 6
That means 81 million people alive today
Will die by suicide
Millions of comrades
Leaving the world behind
No.291901
i canceled my order of SN like a bitch
No.291906
>>291831The pesticides used for fruit and tea are part of the toxin, fluoride being a significant ingredient in them.
No.291961
>>291893Deaths from suicide, drinking ( liver shutdown ), and drugs is combined about 3% of deaths
240 million of us dying
And the question is how many are better off dead
The answer is between 1 and 240 million
Even if we accept there’s just a couple million better off dead
Enough room for me and you
No.291970
>>291961the world has over 8 billon people. 8 billion will inevitable die?
No.291988
>>291970Everyone alive today will die at some point, so yes.
It's estimated ~110 billion people have died already, if everyone since Cro-Magnons count as "people".
No.292005
>>291961Assuming a similar rate, and I think historically suicide was higher at least in near history ( 500 years ago )
But for thought experiment
In the year 0 BC there were still 2 million people who would have died by suicide.
Go back to 10,000 years bc, 4 million, 40,000 of those alive will kill themselves
>>291988Imagine if 1 billion humans have died by suicide.
No.292006
>>292005Life is unbearable for many people regardless of the age or era.
We're just recycling the same genes over and over and becoming different personalities over thousands and thousands of years.
No.292016
I hate thinking about the person or people who will have to deal with my dead body. I don't know what the most polite and least traumatizing (for the guy who finds me) way to kill myself is. I would like to either do hanging or blow my brains out with a gun. The latter is probably impossible to do cleanly.
No.292019
>>292016I plan to do it in the wilderness, in a small cave or something
No.292026
>>292016dig a grave for yourself first or the animals will have your body
No.292029
>>292016If you don't want people to be traumatized then tie yourself to something heavy and jump into a river or something like that.
Drowning is a very painful and agonizing way to die, but your body probably won't be found before it decomposes.
No.292147
>>291809>>291810It has taken me a while, but I’ve gotten a bit ”normalized” now. I have gilbert’s so niacin is a no go. I only have access to mild HBOT. Never had schizo either.
No.292251
I feel my life once again has a purpose when im getting near to the end. I have the drive to take care do the necessary. I found the light at the end of the tunnel in a perveted sort of way some would say. Happy?
No.292253
>>291770feeling dirt on your feet and looking at a bug on a leaf is a worthwhile thing
No.292319
>>290604not the temple, not under the jaw either. Both methods will blow your face off and leave your brain intact.
No.292393
>>286889God that movie sucked so hard.
>>286905Same
>>286950Why even bother with the tarp?
>>286972My only hope is that Marx, who was right about everything else, is accurate in his diagnosis that society will eventually collapse and be replaced with the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. After that, society might be worth living in, especially when higher phase Communism is reached, and hopefully all reactionaries and Dengists (No difference) are launched into the sun.
>>287056The grain dole was incredibly successful. It was one of the most effective anti-poverty initiatives prior to the enlightenment. Also, qualification for the grain dole was not universal, although many aristocrats gamed the system.
>>287171LMFAO at the retards in the picture
>>288758You mean like the Cuck Pit?
No.292420
Thoughts on long drop hanging?
If you don't mind decapitation you can just spam drop height which makes it basically a more deadly version of fall from height, right?
Assuming a sturdy rope/mountpoint
No.292426
Any easily attainable exit pill?
No.292430
>>292426Frankly no
There's a reason only 2% of od suicides are fatal
Easiest is probably illegal opiates
No.293087
Carbon monoxide poisoning via charcoal burning in a small tent?
No.293088
Just wait a couple of months, nukes are going to end your life. Or be drafted and you can use a gun.
No.293091
>>293088nukes don't exist. they are a propaganda piece invented by deceitful jews. any talk of "nukes" is misinformation. the jews are going to try to start a war between their puppet states (US/China/Russia). they will do this through executing a false flag strike on innocent people, as they always have going back many many decades. who knows how successful it will be? more people today are knowledgeable that the US military is just an arm of the judeo-satanic power structure…there exists no true impetus to fight for the aims of such scum.
No.293112
>>293091Plenty of American GI's took polaroids of the Hiroshima nukes and their effects on civilians and buildings. Tens of thousands of ordinary everyman conscripted US citizens witnessed it and Nagasaki.
To say they're all liars just speaks more of your lack of critical thinking.
Both city centers and all associated buildings instantly turned to rubble and any people walking on the streets or going about their daily lives vaporized in a flash. Only the foundations of the city hall stayed up.
No.293175
>>293173he doesn't understand that suicide is the last straw
No.293176
>>293173This kind of thing would work if you were diagnosed with some terminal illness, I sometimes fantasize about having cancer and knowing that I would die in 2 or 3 months and all the awesome things I would do to enjoy life before it all ends, knowing that you won’t have to deal with any consequences is the ultimate epiphany.
For depression not so much, most people with depression can’t even get out of bed.
No.293178
>>293176I think cancer is extremely debilitating and painful, tho? I thought the same as you and when I talked about it online, everyone said I would be crippled 24\7 unable to do anything off my bucket list
No.293179
>>293178Symptoms can vary wildly depending on the type of cancer and what stage it's at.
Cancer isn't really a disease so much as it's a class of diseases.
No.293183
>>293176Well, what are the awesome things that you'd do?
No.293184
>>293173Depression alters the experience of world, self, and volitional action. The world is full of bipolar people who do whacky shit that ruins their lives when on manic benders, and they become depressed retards again, they aren’t magically woken up by turning their lives upside down. Wowee I spent my life savings on a camper van and I’m going to travel the country ahahaha oh no I want to slit my wrists again.
It’s just normie focus on the kind of depression that is narratively pleasing to them, oh wow a journey of overcoming and meaning seeing the world is actually beautiful if you look! Here’s this attractive middle class succubus telling you so! The poor mentally ill retard living in their own filth , that depression, oopsie doopsy let’s move on lol meaning meaning camus!
No.293200
>>293183>>293179>>293184I just want to do some extreme sports, nature adventure\ survivalism experience stuff. And possibly stupid, childish-nostalgia shit like living 2 weeks only off gummy candies and coca cola and marathoning seasons upon seasons of pokemon, pretty cure and power rangers for a month straight ,20 hours a day
No.293377
>>293184read as attractive middle school
No.293378
>>293377that would be an acceptable and worthwhile statement, tho. don't be a neo-puritan feminist pipsqueak
No.293393
>>292393>Why even bother with the tarp?I think he doesn't want to inconvenience people, same reason he said;
>I guess jumping in front a train is kind of a dick move, not that i particulatly feel the capacity to care. Intellectually maybe, but really i don't care if it causes problems or traumatizes anyone. I just want to die mostly, nothing elseHaving to look for and clean up bits of his brain not only would be terribly time consuming and difficult, it would be extremely traumatizing depending if he were to do it somewhere a person susceptible to PTSD would be. Or maybe he just doesn't want his family to see his mangled head, who knows. I think both points stand correct because that's exactly my mindset.
No.293497
>>293393Only sociopaths can do forensic cleaning year in and year out.
99% of the population would get severe PTSD after just a single trip of picking up brain pieces, eyes and human intestines for 6 hours.
No.293498
>>293497I hear it's either the smell or the primal wailing of family members or SO's losing their loved ones that really fucks people up.
No.293502
I've been thinking of ordering heroin from a vendor to end things, but I don't have the correct setup for injection, how much would I need to snort to get the job done?
No.293507
does carbon monoxide poisoning seem like the best choice for a peaceful and cheap way? I plan to buy a grill and some charcoal and do it in my car. I wish I could buy helium or nitrogen but it seems like you have to find commercial or industrial companies to buy it.
No.293510
>>293173It might make sense in theory but if I could just do things I wouldn't be thinking about suicide
No.293513
>>293507I'd go the extra mile and hit up direct sources for nitrogen or helium. Carbon Dioxide suicide is rarely a peaceful or comfortable death. You could end backing out in the middle of it and be leaving with mild to moderate brain damage..
No.293526
Suicide is gods love.
No.293559
Should I ,since Im gonna die anyways, try to become a "professional pothead\cigarhead" ? I never-ever smoked WEED but maybe I can try to -even if I do it all by myself and never join the "culture"- get into smoking the HERB? Bongs, rolls, Chillum, blunts, etc
And also cigars; cuban, old-fashion wrapped, gas station cigars, self-rolled paper, etc
is the smoke a journey worth undertaking?
No.293560
>>293559No. What the fuck even led to this train of thought? Start lifting weights or swinging from trees if you're willing to take up a hobby before you die.
No.293567
>>293559If I had money and no responsibility I would become a weed head smoking all day every day. I spent a couple of months as a student sleeping and high on hash all day, it wasn’t that damaging and it was good to ignore reality.
No.293570
>>293567what happened that made you stop?
are you rich, if american?do you mean "student" as in college? I reckon only rich americans or those with extremely good record-scholarship can get into college?
No.293603
How should I aim my shotgun? Going to the store soon and this might be it.
No.293604
will blunt force trauma from getting hit by a train be enough to die? I mean 80-90% odds at least would be nice. Most trains have various protectors in front and i don't know if my head will fit under to get crushed by the wheel. I have to kill myself before month ends, and i have no other methods available. Neck on rails or stand in front?
No.293605
>>293603You should aim it at a politician first to see if it shoots good. Then just keep doing that until the police shoot you on your behalf.
>>293604Trains are perfectly safe. They're programed to just push you aside when you stand in their way.
No.293622
>>293604>>293603a lot of people are thinking about suicide right now. the world has become uniquely almost crushingly dark. i know this might be cheap advice, but really try sitting in a comfy chair or lying in a relaxing bed and for 2 hours allowing all your breathing to come down to a controlled level, and exactly thereupon examining all of your thinking so to purify it of all unnecessary fear and panic, seeing only what truly matters.
it is within your power to wipe out the panic, if you can calm down your thought process. establish what is actually important: are you healthy? do you have a safe place to sleep at night? do you have food to eat? if you can answer yes to these questions, there exists no need to kill yourself. i am praying very intently for all wizards to be as strong as possible as we battle against the judeo-masonic forces of satan.
No.293625
>>293622I respect that you may want to 'help' other wiz, but the thing is, most people who want to end themselves already examined for a long time if they really wanted to stay alive or not in this world. As I see it, the will to die is the most rational behavior that is, because all is objectively, if we discard religion, morality, subjectivity, speculation, meaningless, futile, and besides we're ordinary people, powerless individually and also in the collective (for us ostracized of society) who cannot possibly change the world realistically, and we cannot change that we are wageslaves, that people are retarded, that upon close examination of reality nihilism is the only thing there is. People who want to end themselves recognize that they suffer, just as they recognize the world for what it truly is. In the end I highly doubt you will persuade people that want to stop suffering at all, even less to be a wageslave/forced to see their own culture, country, what they loved (old internet culture for example) decay without being able to do anything; and it took most people a while to arrive to a state of ideation like that.
Personally, i'm not panicking at all. Sure, there is instinctive stress, but it's different from panic, i'm not having an anxiety either, i'm extremely lucid, and think that I never was as lucid as to when I thought that life was probably not worth the endeavor, at least as a human in a human society. If anything, it's my rationality and seeking of truth that led me there, so.
>are you healthy? do you have a safe place to sleep at night? do you have food to eat?Those sorts of low-tier statements are reminiscent of so-called 'self-helping guides' and other 'comfort' videos or other shit. Realistically this doesn't change shit. Now, i'm not saying you never suffered, but if you were truly suicidal/had depression enough, you would realize that those matters you can't brush away with a moralistic brand of 'b-but look you have a roof, you have electricity, people care for you' and all that shit. It doesn't change anything, and it SHOULDN'T be taken into account. Most people who say these shit (not saying you specifically but for example those who make 'comfort' or 'positive affirmation videos) have indeed no reason to be depressed at all because they were born in either a decent family, or favorable circumstances, or are succubi (thus privileged to make money much more easily than a man ever will, and never aware of man loneliness or lack of funds if they can just be a whore online or beg for attention from sexually frustrated cunts), or they are people who are effectively normalfags, conform, or are religious people, such as yourself, considering the prayer part. Which as I see it, just makes you unable to see any other perspective.
>i am praying very intently for all wizards to be as strong as possible as we battle against the judeo-masonic forces of satan.Lmao. I mean then I am not surprised that you don't see the full picture if you believe such things. Which I don't mind if you do, it would be ignorant of me to bother dictating what others believe or not, trying to burn a whole house with a single matchstick might be easier (that is to say impossible if you don't have gas/fuel i mean you get the analogy i'm trying to make here). But I guess at least you want to make a difference somewhat, although it is very, very misplaced.
No.293626
>>293625Please leave, dude. I think that wiz gave such advice in good faith, whereas you are persuading vulnerable wizards to disregard such advice in bad faith, and ultimately to do something that will hurt themselves. You have no place here.
No.293627
>>293626You're the same person aren't you, you fucking faggot?
>You have no place here.Because you think you can decide that, lol? Kill yourself.
No.293628
>>293627Calm yourself, broseph.
No.293631
>>293628You're the one spewing your shit in the first place. Whining that people have different opinions than you have. If you read closely to what I said I didn't say I encouraged anyone of doing it, I explained WHY trying to discourage it isn't really going to do anything. And after I took the time to bother explaining this, you come sobbing
>p-please leave ur so negative, you have no place hereAnd then when I call yourself out you lose all of the little dignity you have you fucking cunt. If anything it should be you that leaves, do the hunger march if you think that'll give you a good conscience, then please die of starvation instead of being a retard.
No.293634
>>293631You are an intruder who wrote "As I see it, the will to die is the most rational behavior that is, because all is objectively, if we discard religion, morality, subjectivity, speculation, meaningless, futile, and besides we're ordinary people, powerless individually and also in the collective (for us ostracized of society) who cannot possibly change the world realistically, and we cannot change that we are wageslaves, that people are retarded, that upon close examination of reality nihilism is the only thing there is." This sounds like something a teenager would write. The will to die is the LEAST rational behavior that is, and is something only arrived at under extreme mental distress. Extending a helping hand to those who are under the weight of this stress – however lightly – is the necessary duty of anyone who cares about his fellow wizzies. You are not a native English speaker either, and your writing is an embarrassment. Leave.
No.293635
>>293634>This sounds like something a teenager would writeThank you for projecting and confirming my point that you are a complete retard beyond any hope for cognitive improvement.
>The will to die is the LEAST rational behavior that isYeah, according to your religion which is the opposite of empirical evidence. Can you disprove anything I said about the fact that you can't change being a wageslave realistically?
>Extending a helping hand to those who are under the weight of this stress – however lightly – is the necessary duty of anyone who cares about his fellow wizziesAnd how do you explain that you can do the pure monk when you're contradicting yourself by telling me specifically to leave? Does your altruism not extend to anyone? Isn't that what christianity is supposed to be lol? You're a fucking retard.
>LeaveOr what you faggot? Are you going to keep crying in the thread? Maybe you should pray to receive the guidance to receive mod powers on the imageboard, maybe they'll be answered.
No.293644
>>293635I just pooped. What do misc?
No.293646
>>293634>The will to die is the LEAST rational behavior that isDeath comes for everyone, suicide is the only rational response, awaiting involuntary death like normalfags do is torture.
No.293648
sodium nitrite good or should I opt for a gun.
No.293666
>>293648A gun would be less painful. Shotgun, mostly, that way it's more or less instantaneous and hard to fail. If you do intend on doing it i'd recommend not to miss your shot because otherwise you'll be filed for life, and if you're in the US sent to pay a hospital bill just because you tried to stop everything. Past that there are not really any easy ways of dying. Non-painful one, that is.
No.293683
>>293666I'll continue living I guess, too much inhibition.
No.293685
>>293683Alrighty. Works too.
No.293714
heroin overdose is relatively painless
No.293718
>>293714Suffocation, hypoxia and panic, vomiting, muscle spasms, cramps, muscle tissue breakdown, chest pain and heart palpitations, seizures, yeah, heroin overdose is definitely painless!
No.293719
>>293718don't forget the prick of the needle
No.293741
>>293737
Why
No.293742
>>293741People just aren't dying fast enough
No.293743
>>293741Too much frustration
>>293742And this
No.293746
>>293743What frustrations do you have?
No.293748
>>293746Hard to express myself but I'll try. Can't hold down a job or make a career for myself. I suffer from multiple mental illnesses and chronic pain. Lost interest in almost everything that's not eating/sleeping. My life isn't the worst but it feels like hell in my mind.
No.293758
4 years maybe. if things arent good by then, they never will be and it'll be a waste of effort
No.293768
>>293748>that's not eating/sleepingMy life is not very good either, not to the level of having chronic pain or mental illness, but I make sure to eat well, and sleep peacefully. There's nothing like a meal you prepare yourself, or how at the end of the day, you can sleep like a baby. Once when I was sick I took "valerian" it's really good for sleeping, and I learned to cook based on YouTube videos and some practice.
They are simple things that one can underestimate, but the reality is that once you try a home-cooked meal, and go to bed well, things really change.
No.293774
>>293625This is the closest thing to an honest post in this entire thread. Its remarkable what this place has become. You have grain conspiratards, people recommending "brain fixing" supplements, even the rehashing of just-world "life is now your oyster, brah" empty-headed imageboard "wisdom."
This place would be unrecognizable if it didn't resemble everywhere else.
Wizzies used to represent a more insightful swath.
No.293778
>>293766yeah, it was a (((cia))) social experiment. I have no doubt that the "research" they gleaned from this project was used in jim jones 2.0 aka the "covid pandemic"…which was another suicide cult but with a much wider victim range. getting whole populations of people to suicide themselves unknowingly is the pinnacle of psychological manipulation.
No.293779
>>293774it's you again, isn't it retard? responding to your own retarded pro-suicide post?
No.293780
>>293768good advice. thanks.
No.293784
>>293774I post extremely high effort thoughts into concisely formatted posts and the average reply ratio is around 2 a year.
Then you have posts saying "nigger" with 7 replies within the same day.
And you wonder where the effortposter wizards went. They escaped the low-mind masses that have invaded this place just like they invaded every other online space.
No.293787
Only NIGGERS suggest suicide as a solution to young men's suffering
No.293789
>>293784I always hear this but never actually find where they went. hopefully offline, in every sense.
I could have scripted the low-effort responses to my comment, even the one that thinks he (or probably she) is effortposting. Sad state of affairs. Doesn't exactly subtract from the suicidal malaise, eh?
No.293790
>>293785
>It very well could be a female or white hating leftist behind those pro suicide posts.
Surely it is my totally organic wizziebro. Because that's how we talk on here, like a 16 year old that just discovered /pol/.
Can we get some Ben Shapiro embeds going, please?
No.293792
Maybe don't read if you don't want more brainrot:
Is suicide right?
I wonder what percentage of suicides are right.
How many of the people who would only have continued to get worse, or how many people actually got better.
As if it's like fate. If you feel very suicidal for a long time, is it nature helping you out by finding the solution?
When you feel an itch, you scratch. When you feel very suicidal for a long while, you kick the bucket. edited
No.293793
>>293622Thanks, wiz. Stay good.
No.293797
Is there anything I (a non suicidal wizard) can do to help IRL people who're gonna off themselves? any jobs like social worker or school or whatever?
Should I just roam the streets on sunday early morning or other top-depressive temporal location, trying to fish guys who seem devastated by grief, and talk them?
(I happen to be christian but I won't try to convert them, im bad at preaching or ministry. I will just be "secular" in my advice to stop them from CTB")
No.293798
>>293797Just let them know there's someone out there, even if it's just you, that would really prefer that they not do what they're planning to do.
People really overestimate the amount of support these type of guys need.
Most these guys don't get anything but shit in their lives, so a compassionate deed done out of genuine goodwill means more than you could probably understand.
No.293803
Does anyone have tips for easily finding the carotid arteries? I've tried partial hanging several times now but hardly even get dizzy, it just feels like my head is going to explode from my jugulars being constricted.
No.293807
i got pizza delivery by a 6 foot 7 skinny blonde Chad it's over
No.293809
>>293807>inchesSpeak well, mentally retarded.
>it's overJust because you saw a pretty blonde succubus? Damn, are you that into a vagina?
No.293812
>>293809no it was a tall skinny guy with blonde hair 6*7 is 195cm
even avoiding all human contact they send in tall blonde chads to mog me and make me feel bad
this guy would no doubt be a Nazi SS officer in 1940 but he is stuck delivering pizza
No.293813
>>293812Do you have such low self-esteem that you are envious of a pizza delivery man? Come on, you damn bastard, the guy is miserable with a miserable job, he may be 2 meters tall, and have the face of a magazine model, but that doesn't mean he's a loser with a shitty job and no future.
No.293814
>>293813>the guy is miserable with a miserable job1. Pizza delivery is an awesome job
2. It's succubusly vapid to think that it would cheer anyone up to learn that some random smiling dude was actually miserable. The guy delivered pizza to wiz, not shove the pizza in his face and call him a dork.
No.293816
>>293814>1. Pizza delivery is an awesome jobReally? I heard it sucked, it's somewhat dangerous in the States.
No.293825
i'm going to go homeless and tell my parents to go fuck themselves. i know i wont survive even a day outside since im too weak and i need to die very soon. im in agony from countless crippling diseases, this body is done for. i need to push myself to suicide by any means necessary before its too late.
No.293826
>>293814I did food delivery and it was horrendous, low pay and high risk of having an accident
No.293829
>>293825Can you find calmness in any way? You are not in a clear state of mind. Can you do anything to relieve the stress you are feeling? What diseases do you have? There must be a way to lighten your suffering without having to stay in this despair.
No.293830
>>293792Wizards, there are jews actively lurking these threads trying to get us to kill ourselves. Be advised. This is just one example of many.
https://wizchan.org/b/res/983315.html#993232 No.293846
>>293830That's why I spoilered it tardo
No.293850
about to get myself kicked out
not sure what else to do
No.293851
>>293850I'm sorry for your situation, becoming homeless in this heat must be hell, I would go on hunger strikes until the government takes care of me
No.293852
>>293851you could die in a ditch and no one would care
maybe after the smell of your rotting body would mildly annoy some tourists eventually
No.293854
>>293850do you have a save plan?
No.293857
>>293856can you explain the situation you're in right now? can't the state help you?
No.293858
>>293857had to try getting back to school as a last chance out of NEETdom, actually majored the entrance exam but got refused for being an highschool dropout, so there's actually no way forward for me in any capacity
No.293861
I have a bit of money and I'm comfortable for the short term. What's the best country for suicide tourism? I figure I'd like to catch the bus in like 10-15 years.
I was thinking the easiest would be mexico and just buying nembutal from some pet-store and ODing in a hotel room.
No.293865
>>293859I don't care enough to keep this charade going anymore
once you step out of line you're fucked for life and nobody gives a fuck
No.293885
>>293865Just stop giving a fuck about everyone and everything. Do you still want to get a job? What about becoming a truck driver? You just need a license and I read that a lot of companies hire rookies because there's a shortage. You might even find a company that would help you to get a license.
No.293888
>>293885I live in South Korea where it's a social death sentence to fail your entrance exam or not be admitted to a school.
Even manual jobs refuse to hire you and will take someone with a degree, even when that degree has nothing to do with the job, because there are 5,000 applicants for each 1 manual job (and up to 50,000 applicants for each non-manual job).
There is literally no other way to make money except drug dealing, internet fraud or other crime.
Or traveling to Japan to join a crime syndicate (any of the Yakuza clans) who specialize in hiring people like me for collecting loans, operating gambling parlors, assaulting people who wont yield to extortion or executing corporate fraud.
No.293889
>>293888My condolences, I hated school so much. Thankfully in the US there are still a lot of options even if you don't have a good education.
But hey, at least you don't need to deal with nignogs and other assorted browners.
No.293891
>>293888IF you choose to go the crime route, I recommend practicing harsh asceticism (not masochism for se*ual pleasure!) such as fasting while cold and wet in winter, rucking with a heavy bag, calisthenics and iron-body\ full body Makiwara training.
train both olympic lifting for real power and a bit of high-weight, low-rep in "noticeable" areas for intimidation. For martial arts: Judo + boxing or K1. cultivate a real cruel mentality about using cheats\ tricks and deceit, random objects, hidden weapons etc
AVOID drugs ,very little alcohol, don't have serious vices or compromising secrets or links to family which can be used to extort\blackmail you.
No.293892
>>293888please donnt go to japan to fucking up the country, stay in korea and ser for your local gangsters if they can hire you. thank you
No.293894
>>293892Are you Japanese?
No.293918
>>293892>please donnt go to japan to fucking up the countryWhy not?
No.293919
I googled the mode life expectancy and found 87, fucking hell, that just seems like pure terror to me. Life after 70 seems to be pretty shit even for normies.
I wish modern medicine didn't exist and we just died of an infection when we got too depressed, ill, schizo or whatever. It seems like people just simply died off when they got ill in the past and there wasn't this prolonged suffering that lasts decades.
Does anyone else see modern medicine in that light? Sure, some sick kids might be cured and go on to live full lives, but for every one of those there's so many others suffering from excruciating pain. There's a schizophrenic who would die of an infection after a schizo bender at 37, who instead has to suffer through anti-psychotic induced dementia at the age of 60.
It seems like having brutal filters for life is the better, most compassionate way. Even dying in war doesn't seem so bad by comparison.
No.293920
>>293918because I like japan and don't want the country be tourists unfreindly
No.293921
>>293920A little late for that.
No.293922
>>293921I know, japanese are slowly realizing this
No.293932
>>293888I know this is an unpleasant question. but I'm a wizard from Russia, and I really like Asian succubi. I know that I will never have succubi and I am a complete bastard who will soon die on the street (and being homeless in Russia is worse than in any other European country), but could you tell me about the succubi of your country? Are they really not the same as in the photo? and more cruel bitches who need money?
No.293933
>>293932>but I'm a wizard from Russia, and I really like Asian succubi. join a skinhead gang like the Maniac Murder Cult or sparrow's crew (WP\NS) . you will "access" to asian immigrants…
>n-no, Im not FSBposting No.293940
>>287560Lurk SanctionedSuicide and research source/vendor acronyms they use to find the actual source. I'm a pretty dumb and lazy guy and I managed to find an actual source using the forum's related topics about SN in less than four hours concentrated google searching. Some legit sources won't show up on google however.
No.293943
Reach out to God and he will get you out of your hard times, he will give you peace if you just let him work through you
No.293996
>>287560>>293940DON'T DO IT. YOU'RE TAKING YOUR IDEATION FAR TOO FAR
No.294006
>>288189Look up Desert Fathers, there is absolutely meaning in living solitary, and that is getting closer to God. Life is way too precious and it is God's creation which is good
No.294012
Jumped in the river last year but I didn't put anything heavy on my person so it looked like an accident unfortunately I was found half dead and very hypothermic a week in hospital then a month in an asylum
If I would have died i wouldn't have known
there wasn't any pain I don't even remember being cold
I told myself I would try at living just once more (I've been suicidal for 23 years now)
But as I suspected it hasn't worked
In a few weeks time I will travel to the coast where there's 100m cliffs and with the help of a bottle or two of wine I will depart this shit abuse filled life I've lived
No.294019
>>294012It takes a lot of courage to jump into the river, did you faint? Was it painful? How did people found you? I'm interested to know more, recently an old lady in my town jumped into the river and died
No.294022
>>294019Yeh I passed out whether it was the cold or the alcohol I don't know was found by a rower no pain nothing as I said if I had died I wouldn't have known
No.294100
>>290736You'll be non existence before you feel the heat of the shotgun. Jumping gives you plenty of time to regret your decision.
No.294102
>>294100Believe me if you regret it you weren't ready
No.294151
>>294148Im fine with them dying tbh
No.294152
>>294148for some people life is just torture and suicide is the answer
No.294153
>>294152The only thing suicide is an answer for is the question "How can I make all the people who hate me a little bit happier?"
No.294157
>>294148this has been known for quite some time. here's just one thread from a blackpill (relatively new social engineering movement) website in which a prominent "admin" asks others how he can increase the male suicide rate.
https://looksmax.org/threads/how-can-i-push-more-people-to-commit-suicide.432953/ No.294169
>>294153>The only thing suicide is an answer for is the question "How can I make all the people who hate me a little bit happier?"But you're uh, fucking dead. Why the fuck would you care at that point?
If they are that shitty where the death of some nonmalicious nobody brings them joy, that could be indicative of bigger personal issue. Less likely, they just might be sociopathic, psychopathic, narcissistic, or just plain evil.
No.294401
>>293603Someone answer my question please stop convincing me to not do it. “Bipolar” has fucked up my life and these meds are BULLSHIT. I’d rather put a slug through my brain than keep trying. The meds and therapy actually made it worse and religion is bullshit. God definitely didn’t create this disgusting earth.
No.294432
>>294204The rich use Switzerland. It is actually quite easy to get euthanasia in Holland, you do not have to be rich.
No.294516
>>294432That’s compete bullshit, it’s not easy to get euthanised anywhere unless you are old and terminally ill.
No.294546
i wish i could kill myself but im too much of a coward. i fantasize about killing myself so much.. overdosing, jumping off of a building, shooting myself in the head, u name it.. i have plenty of files on my hard drive which are suicide related, theres so much suicide guides but im too much of a pussy to attempt
No.294547
>>294546i dont want to die in my sleep or just some accident, or natural death. i want to kill myself so i am in control. so i know what to do, clear my digital footprint, delete all my files, etc… if i die naturally i wont know when to. that's why im scared to sleep because im scared ill die in my sleep. god, im so stupid
No.294548
im gonna die before this week ends. im telling my parents today that they are motherfuckers and im leaving and not coming back. anything else i should do? Guillotine by train here.
No.294554
>>294516It is not bullshit, I live in Belgium. Young people get euthanised frequently here. It is easy in the sense you only have to prove some kind of chronic suffering and find a doctor which is willing to do it. Even if you pass the requirements the doctor isnt legally required to do it
No.294556
>>294554You're quite lucky for living there. It seems it's only available to Belgian citizens. You should appreciate what you have in Belgium. I could only imagine the joy I'd feel in being able to secure my own certain release from this life.
No.294560
how difficult is it to find pentobarbital? where can i find information about how to properly use pentobarbital for suicide
No.294562
>>294560Extremely. I thought it was hard to find 10 years ago, but it's become even harder. I wouldn't even bother thinking about getting it unless you have a good deal of money set aside and are not impulsively suicidal.
They have become a meme and I often see the drugs used as usernames on websites that attract dorks like here.
No.294563
>>294554>>294556I DO wonder; how has 50% of Belgium not unalived themselves after a wild spree, given that easy way to quit turbo-samsara (Earth on 2024)?
Like, how does it function, grunts work at the factory 8 hours a day + 2 for commute, preparing, etc , for 30 decades for meagre pay…
No.294564
>>294563>unalivedThis isn't Reddit; there's no need to use such dumb phrases. You won't be banned for saying "committed suicide" or "killed themselves"
No.294570
>>294548Not by train dude it's a bit selfish putting a train driver through that
I know a train driver it absolutely affects them
No.294571
>>294570>I know a train driver it absolutely affects themYea, by giving them paid time off
No.294628
I have a pullup bar in a doorway. How can I use this to an hero? I've heard people use shit like sholaces in prison (Uncle Ted) and it works, but I can't figure it out.
Also I live with others so I'd do it like at 3 am, but would I start thashing around/gasping and wake people up.
Help an anon please.
No.294630
>>294629I'm already six three 190 lb of muscle, still want to die.
No.294631
>>294630Kill those who made you wish to die.
No.294633
>>294631 Can't kill mental illness
No.294634
>buy a 10 liter canister of gasoline
>Pour gasoline all over yourself in your bedroom when nobody is home
>light yourself
>Burn instantly
>guaranteed death as you won't be able to run out of your house fast enough, and the house burning around you will kill you for certain due to CO2 poisoning
Explain to me a more foolproof method?
No.294635
>>294633Agreed. Suicidal ideation is a mental illness.
No.294636
>>294634That would hurt like hell and you'd survive probably but be over 9000 times worse off
No.294683
I keep hearing about the fentanyl epidemic here in the US. Supposedly this stuff is everywhere and it's killing people on a regular basis. I know it's probably a long-shot to ask here, but does anyone here know how to obtain some fentanyl, preferably in pill form? I know how what it does to the body and mind to cause death, and it sounds pretty peaceful to me, so I would like to go out like that, I just don't know where people are buying these pills from.
No.294684
>>294683>preferably in pill form?The amount of fentanyl that is guaranteed to be fatal is so small that it can't be pilled. It's only really available as a powder.
No.294685
>>294630Even this place IS full of chads huh
No.294717
>>294684By 'pill form' I meant those knock-off painkillers that are laced with fentanyl, I should have been more clear on that. I remember seeing a lot of news reports about imitation painkillers that were made to look like over-the-counter stuff, but had fentanyl mixed in and were lethal. Supposedly the way they caused death was by making the body and mind so numb that the person no longer breaths automatically, and without immediate medical intervention the person suffocates painlessly. It sounds like a great way to go.
No.294893
>>294892are you trying to kill yourself with this plant?
No.294896
>>294893Yeah, poison hemlock and some opiate sedative is an effective and easy self euthanasia method. It's what they historically used to euthanize the elderly. The opiate keeps you sedated and calm, the hemlock freezes your breathing and you just suffocate.
I'm not sure about how I'll go about acquiring an opiate, do you think enough codine would do the job? I guess I can find some poppy seeds to grow.
No.294898
>>294896>freezes your breathing and you just suffocate. that will be painful
No.294918
>>294898It's considered one of the more peaceful methods of going, it's what they used for euthanasia in ancient times. If you're passed out when the paralysis kicks in it's exactly like dying in your sleep, it's like pneumonia, one of the best death's a person can have.
No.294924
>>294892I've spent three days looking for it now and it's just nowhere to be seen. I'm going to try going further out into the countryside to find it.