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I relate a lot with old inc_els because most of them don't even want relationships anymore, they've accepted that past a certain point there is no coming back, once you've spent your entire life bullied and ostracized and mocked for how you look or being introverted and entered adult age not knowing real friendships or love from parents, there is really no rainbow in the dark or light at the end of the tunnel.

Your personality is shaped, your memories are painful so you want to erase the past or pretend that it didn't happen, you are like an abused and neglected kid who starts to sweat and becoming increasingly anxious as the time to go back from work for his dad approaches.

Lot of pain and trauma. You are better off alone at that point, engaging in hobbies, distracted with work or in some fantasy world.

There is no cure.

You can't even relate or feel an attachment for this world and what it has to offer. You are almost prepared to leave and don't care. How can you care when you carry a broken soul within you.

There is no return because the place you left was doomed to be hell for you, from the very beginning and you know it's best once you accept that it wasn't your fault and stop blaming yourself. What can you do when you are born a wiz.

Society doesn't care. You've been left alone.


if they dont want sex anymore, why do they cling so hard to the imcel label as though its something to be proud of? you dont have to be born volcel. Just declare yourself volcel and you're volcel. The imcel label has brought you nothing but pain, its like hugging fire.


You can't claim volcel label when you are autistic.


It's a subculture at this point, like being a punk. Admittedly their stuff is indeed very hilarious in a cynical way. I have a relative that's successful with succubi just repeat inkwell talking points, they're very common and not at all just a lonely virgin thing.

Normal people that had sex used to post on r/bracrabs all the time.


it was never about sex. That's a normalfag point of view.

It's about being a loner outcast.
>I have a relative that's successful with succubi just repeat inkwell talking points
It's hit the mainstream years ago so why are you surprised that normalfags will share the same point of views, also many talking points have always been there way before.
>Normal people that had sex used to post on r/bracrabs all the time.
Also, what are you doing on reddit?


r/ brainc-els was indeed one of the funniest and comfiest parts of the internet back in 2019. I don't know why people get autistic about others using reddit, it's quality varies by subreddit (I've stopped using it now though, it has gone to shit with the last good ones being jannied).

r/loveforlandlords was hilarious when the joke was fresh.




Childhood trauma from being a Chad until about grade 5. I was fighting kids almost daily and all the succubi wanted me. Then something changed I hit my head on a rock while swimming and have been in a coma for 30 days. After I came back to school everyone made fun of me and I couldn't fight back anyone anymore and it's been that way since. So some of us wizzies peaked at like 10 years old. My life's been over since then and I never had the choice in being celibate. I'll always have the bitterness of the hatred instilled to me by normies and as a lifelong virgin you develop diff fetishes. After talking to about 100 different succubi online like 90% of them want a daddy/little succubus relationship. There's no goth dommy mommy gf that will peg a gamer like me and all the fembois are into tranny lgbt queer right nonsense and get offended if you call them a fag. It's just over.





I can’t relate to them at all. They all seem very angry and basically normies, they are obsessed with gossip, social media, and normie hierarchies. Most seem also obsessed with politics. I find their subculture very unpleasant and I don’t like being around them. Most don’t seem to have gotten over being a virgin.
Sad >tfwnogf were ok, but I really just close the internet a lot when I encounter crab people - as well as many other groups. The internet is an empty space for an old wiz


A successful chad saying "succubi dig hot looks" is just bragging. Johnny Bravo.


I was never cool or a chad, but I remember being one of the tallest kids in class till 5th grade, and hated always being at the back of the line and class photos where you cant even see me, and envied the short boys who got to sit in front of the photo. but by the time puberty hits and tallness is good, all the short boys are taller than me.


you can't relate at all to social outcasts, nerds, and virgins?
that says more about you than it says about them.


Even here the subculture revolves around talking about sex and virginity constantly. No place for someone who actually "disregards" these things. These are places for people who obsess about them.


>These are places for people who obsess about them.
Which gives you plenty of opportunity to point these young men away from the path of sex-obsession. They're teetering on the edge of a knife, of which one side offers celibate contentedness and the other will curse him to a lifetime of sex-free self-loathing. Don't complain that these young guys are up there up there, but rather help them down to the good side.


That's already accepting their worldview that social status is a more important identity than ideas in your head


if you can't relate to nerds, social outcasts and recluse and introverted virgins, what the fuck are you doing on wizchan?


He's a failed normalfag, stuck between worlds. Too weird for the normies, too normal for the weirdos. I don't envy him.


A lot of crabs aren't weird, they have a perfectly good understanding of social status and norms, they just resent their low ranking in it.


no friends, no family, never had a gf, never even kissed, never had sex, 30+ year old
might as well be an in cel at this point in my life
some part of me tells me that life shouldn't be like this but I try to ignore it however I can, I don't know for how long…

Sex and love are things I know exist but I never see myself doing any of it. I don't even remember what it feels like to be really attracted to someone from the opposite sex


Rule 2.


I've realized that most normalfags and braindead npcs who use the term i ncel to attack us, hate virgin males and lonely males in general.
When you use the term "i ncel" you are stating that you think every problem amounts to a lack of sex and that the solution to every problem is sex which females and normalfags believe because they've been using it to get what they want since the beginning of time. Females will NEVER know the loneliness a man feels because most succubi and normalfags simply use sex for instant gratification because of their shallow and superficial nature.


It's just a catchy neologism, normies don't think this deeply about a word they use at all.


When I was younger, they used "neckbeard" and "basement dweller". I remember reading that on reddit, thinking to myself, wow, people really must hate bad facial hair. The specific word doesn't really matter, they all boil down to just being a low status male i.e. a loser.


wrong. They use the word i n c e l to virgin shame, they could use any other word that's not associated with being a loner virgin but they don't.


people who hate insels are just low tier normies and only chads agree with insel rhetoric
a typical normie will follow the herd and will join in on the insel hate or "to poke sticks" at them


Insels will shit on other insels in the hopes of differentiating themselves from the label. I never see actually socially successful good looking dudes calling people insels. It's always either wymen or other insecure dudes.

The funny thing is that it wasn't the normies that sat in a room and brainstormed about the perfect word to use as an insult. "Insel" was invented by insels for insels. Normies just co-opted it once it trickled down into the mainstream.


>The funny thing is that it wasn't the normies that sat in a room and brainstormed about the perfect word to use as an insult. "Insel" was invented by insels for insels. Normies just co-opted it once it trickled down into the mainstream.
they just replaced the nerd since it became a cool normalfag thing, but now also has a political meaning to label enemies, propaganda and scapegoat
the word got a political meaning after heavy weaponization and since they are pretending to be protectors of minorities, straight up virgin shaming would put them in a bullying position, so linked with propaganda some labeling political buzzwords to them, which now makes it acceptable because it's not any virgin loser, but a "far-right terrorist" virgin loser


Also, recently realized US is bully society and I'm sure that's unique to them. It's amusing how every group gather to openly hate the currently socially acceptable targets and the way they fiercely engage, like were starving for that, i.e. Karens, gym dudes, "entitled" people, etc.


Buff 6'4 jocks with attractive faces don't need to do that because they are already winning the biological lottery of life and have no need to shame anyone. They keep getting positive reinforcement and sex from succubi without even trying so they are calm and relaxed.

It's other neckbeards who put down "insels" even though succubi find both of these men repugnant, even if the former once held hands with a succubus at age 6 and thinks he is superior in his fedora.


wizchan is the most anti-imcel site on the internet, not even on Reddit are your forced to resort to the subterfuge of inc_els and insels. The very word is banned.

You try to defend Wizchan as a crab community, when you can't even say the word. And some say "crab" is an insulting slur for imcels originating from Reddit.

So if you feel like crabs are under attack, no one has attacked them more than the policies of Wizchan. And recently the Based Mods have started enforcing the rules against crabs who say volcels can't exist.


>wizchan is the most anti-imcel site on the internet
It isn't. I am an i ncel and I can post here fine never had a problem with the rules either.

I'm physically disabled and have congenital issues that have no cure. Sex and relationships will be like a second job and near impossible for me in my state and I already get really tired from doing freelance work so I'd rather just play videogames when I'm done and then go back to bed.
It's been like that since I was a kid. I always knew it was over, people in general have always seen me like a nuisance and don't wanna have anything to do with me, even my own parents see me as a burden despite me contributing with money to pay the bills. I even pay for my own medication and doctor visits.


You're still more worthy of respect than cripplekike.


>they just replaced the nerd
It's wild that there are zoomers who aren't cognizant of the fact that geek and nerd were insults before it became cool to be a "geek".

>straight up virgin shaming would put them in a bullying position, so linked with propaganda some labeling political buzzwords to them, which now makes it acceptable because it's not any virgin loser, but a "far-right terrorist" virgin loser

Exactly and before it became socially unacceptable, calling people virgins to shame them in front of people was a thing.


Anyone who uses any word that normalfags use to virgin shame, words such as ince l, neckberad, nerd, loser, loner, antisocial, weirdo, creep, etc. aren't considered human in my boo.


it's over.


Male virgins are being piled on by everyone: succubi, chads, normies, and other male virgins who are either coping or think doing so will show theyre part of the "good ones" and will earn them social points. Theyre the sex equivalent of "house niggers".


imagine virgins whose site wont even let other men say the word crab because it is too hateful


Be that as it may, I’d rather crab be filtered than inviting them here and having to wade through even more threads about retarded shit like lookism and people bitching about succubi.


based take. I've noticed this too. Back then the insult was "virgin" or "neckbeard" "basedment dweller", "loner" ,etc. now it's "in cel" I don't take seriously a single person who uses in cel to offend another guy. Normalfags who hate on in cels merely reveal their disdain for male virgins but they want to be politically correct so in cel has become the go to term to say "you're a loser virgin"


I never actually paid attention to what self-proclaimed "crabs" had to say, but I was under the impression most of them are pretty bois who come from well off, loving and emotionally healthy families. They refuse to settle for anything less than a 11/10, and they are otherwise emotionally healthy.

But if old crabs were like OP is describing (never met or heard of an inkwell that fitted these characteristics though), then by God I am a crab and wish for a crab world. Really sounds more like a traditionally spiritually broken (buckbroken even, kek) person..


Jesus fucking christ when did they add the filter? Inkwell I meant. Whatever, never got what they meant by "cr4b" either.

Much of the modern crab to me, looks like an identity to adopt. Talking points to regurgitate all day without thought. Just something to belong to. And that is far more fucked up than if they were the real deal, speaks volumes of how unbearably alienating the modern world can be.


I wonder why do we have the word filter as well. It's clearly insulting and demeaning virgin males, and it's ironic because this is a site for virgin males. Makes you even wonder if the people who run it are genuine.


It's a touchy subject that potentially gets you banned by the moderators.
Seeing as íncel refers to involuntary celibates and the site administration is adamant on only accepting voluntary celibates.

But if you discuss where to draw the line (for example most ugly short males don't really have a choice in the matter, they end up virgins simply because all the succubi and succubi in their age group detest them), you can quickly find yourself banned from wizchan.

I don't want to identify with any group of poeple, but I also realize that I am celibate mostly due to influences by the outside world and my genetics, not my personal will.

I will never have sex or female companionship and that's fine. But it's not a life I chose, it's not like one day I figured out "hey, I don't want to reproduce or have sex. What a great idea!
It was more like I was shoehorned and forced into this situation by social ostracization and shunning.

I think the ultimate reason is people fear lowering their social status, even in anonymous online environments. So they carefully avoid the stigma that ínceldom brings with it, even if they are involuntarily celibate themselves. "I'm not like *those* guys! Those stupid CRABS! I'm a noble wizard."

I don't care what other people call me or label me. I don't have sex, wont have sex and can't have sex because I'm seen as low value and ugly.
That's why I am a virgin for life. Not because I think it's cool to be a virgin.


>it's best once you accept that it wasn't your fault and stop blaming yourself
I've read this in a few posts that I've come across lately, but I personally have a hard time internalizing it. I've had the concepts of personal responsibility and self-accountability drilled into my head for most of my life. So when I'm faced with the terrible world around me, the awful people in that world, or even things like my own dysfunctional upbringing, it always feels like there's this expectancy that I'm just supposed to toughen up and work past it. It seems to be the popular belief that if a person isn't happy in life, it's because that person hasn't taken responsibility and worked harder to be happy. What's more is that people are so often shamed for not taking 100% of the blame on themselves when their life takes a bad turn. The more I think on it, the more disdain I feel for normalfags and their stunted worldviews.


>I think the ultimate reason is people fear lowering their social status, even in anonymous online environments. So they carefully avoid the stigma that ínceldom brings with it, even if they are involuntarily celibate themselves.
True. This whole site is based on a wrong premise anyway, it's full of internal contradictions.
If you define a community based on sex, sex becomes a topic of discussion, but you can't really discuss it because it's against sex; then you have the fap thread, etc.; it's all a complete mess, it just goes on by following a tradition, but it's a complete disaster.
I preferred hikkichan, but it's dead.


>but I was under the impression most of them are pretty bois who come from well off, loving and emotionally healthy families. They refuse to settle for anything less than a 11/10, and they are otherwise emotionally healthy.

this is such a strange take. I really wonder how people manage to have such different impressions about the world than I do sometimes.


Obviously crabs are allowed here, anyone is allowed here as long as they don't break the rules, but we need to draw a line so that the board doesn't become overwhelmed with crab whining. If you have a full tolerance towards crabs, they will just spend endless words whining about how the world isn't fair about how succubi are all evil no fair meanies, about how much they want pussy but can't get it, about how they envy and resent the Chads for getting all the pussy they want. This will soon become 90% of the threads on the site and the entire site just becomes a pity party of sex obsessed crabs constantly obsessing over the pussy they're not getting and how much they hate themselves and everything else in the world. I assume the admin is wise to this so appropriate measures have been taken. It seems to be working well so I'd rather not rock the boat.


The more pragmatic reason is the admin wants to avoid search engines crawling and indexing the site with that word.

The more it gets mentioned, the higher up wizchan shows up on the search results -> all kinds of sadistic normies, vengeful media outlets looking for a clickbait article and bored soccer moms now start labeling the site as a "mass shooter hangout" and demand criminal sanctions for the host.

It's sad and disgusting, but I'm sure it's one of the main reasons.


yeah your mind can be damaged to the point where you cant experience attachment or know or experience what it is to be loved. the feelings pale as compared to the practical concerns however, that of being alone in old age or in sickness.


It's muddied often because a lot of "crabs" aren't "crab" as any sort of internal state, but because the succubi simply didn't want them, and perhaps they're whiny assholes who are jerks to everyone and insist on their professional class nonsense. Those people don't have any real deep-seated "problem" that wouldn't have been resolved in a different world or merely finding an "in", which some of them do if they're still angling to abase themselves before the game. More often the men have come to embrace cuckoldry, homosexuality, and other perversions, because that's the plan for most of the lesser men - to get them hooked on porn and paypiggery. I could never see how a reasonable man would be satisfied with that or think it is a substitute, but it worked enough to mollify the hollow souls or those who would then kick down, as they did in the crab spaces to drive out anyone who really "lived it", or consigned them to further isolation.

There is a point of no return for anyone, and for older men, it all can be seen as a lie. One reason for the dying down isn't that "there's no going back" or "something lost", but a result of old age being a sobering influence. Young people believe in all sorts of stupid shit and don't know what they're doing about anything, and that was especially pronounced with the cohort I'm in.

For those who were "true crabs", there was no doubt from an early age. Society REALLY wanted to make examples of what is done when you are rejected from society. They would then be directed to as many narratives that eventually lead to the embrace of fascism - creating the "failed men" that the narrative says "must be fascists", and then giving them a fascist movement and the purest ideology. For those of us who were truly cast out, we would be pushed, prodded, goaded to lash out, and used as agents to foment what they did to the country, and what the want to do to the whole world.

I never really wanted females or cared about that. I just wish it didn't have to be like this, and really, when you meet enough people, you find out that this ideology and rat race doesn't "really" matter in the existential way the ideology insists. It does matter in that there's a reason why this happened, and if you become sexually impotent and terrified, that does something to you over time. It's not enough for them to screen us out of the mating game. First they screen you out of society so that your existence is marginal and you become an alien in your own country. Then they intensify the enclosure, introduce random pressures. What they did in the schools when we were young would be mandated in every other area of society, so there would be no escape. There was no other way such a society could turn out. This turns on itself, which is the point. Failed race. Just failed race - and I speak of humanity in total, because this is a global plan, parceled out to hold the plebs, whose nations become concentration camps and nothing else.


Normies hate crabs because they are able to show weakness as a strength while normies were conditioned their whole life to cope and hide their weakness.
When they read things like "I can't get a gf or pussy" it hurts them because they're in the same boat but can't express their own emotions or they will be seen as "weak" by their peers or the herd. So by not showing this weakness they think they are able to get laid and call themselves volcels but deep down they wish they had the same communities and support that crabs get now. They only have a small group of other normies in a discord while crabs have the whole web now.


I agree, but I wasn't able to word it as eloquently as you so I was actually banned for a week for raising the exact same point.

The mod went as far as saying I denied the existence of volcels. No I didn't, I just don't think 99,9% of wizards chose these circumstances and this life, it was forced upon them.

It's the touchiest subject that exists on the site. Like you said it all ties down to emotions, especially shame and pride. Many men fear losing status or being branded as the lowest social status group as worse than death. Really primal primate stuff when you think about it.


>I just don't think 99,9% of wizards chose these circumstances and this life, it was forced upon them.
In spite of the overwhelming amount of first-hand claims of the contrary? It really does just sound like a case you you being celibate against your preference and projecting this shortcoming on the others. You can't personally comprehend making the informed choice to remain a virgin and continuing on life happily, so you don't believe others can too.


I don't think most healthy males dream of becoming a shutin who never gets to have sex and who is ridiculed by society and the opposing gender.

Heck, the only reason you exist is because your father wasn't a wizard.

The only reason I'm a wizard is because I drew an incredibly bad hand in the gene lottery. I balded at 18. I'm 5'3 and myopic. I have tremors, depression, an autoimmune disease, an incredibly ugly face and complete lack of coordination.
I'm like the ultimate genetic embodiment of a nerd, except I'm too low IQ to program or make a living by using computers.

Creating lives like mine is torture, I simply wish my parents never procreated.
I'm coping with the situation and trying to make it as tolerable as I can with food, books, TV shows, movies and walking in the forest, but it barely works. I'm constantly reminded of my subhumanity even by children who pass me as groups and laugh at me.


> they are able to show weakness as a strength

delusional. If you need some sort of community support structure to help you cope with not getting pussy, you are probably just a failed normalfag. Nothing about that is a "strength".


Yeah, and I'm making an informed decision to rent a small cubicle in a shitty neighborhood instead of owning a 24,000 sqft penthouse in Manhattan.

"Voluntary" implies a choice in the matter. As a facially hideous, neurodivergent short guy I have as much choice on Tinder, dating or hookups as an Indian beggar has on space travel. That is zero.


>I don't think most healthy males dream of becoming a shutin who never gets to have sex…
Nobody said this, or anything like this. But on the site made specifically for the men who did, there no reason to doubt their claims unless by some defense reflex in which you wish everyone with more resolve than you is in secret just as insecure as yourself
>…and who is ridiculed by society and the opposing gender.
Which perfectly frames this insecurity. Society isn't ridiculing voluntary celibates. YOU are ridiculing voluntary celibates. Are YOU one with society, or are you someone who admitted to being banned from the voluntary celibate imageboard after admitting to these insecurities?

You may feel ridiculed by society due to your fruit salad of genetic issues, and I'm sure your objective physical ailments have caused you some grief. For you to suggest that you would have sex and relationships if these issues didn't exist in the first place is reasonable given that for most normal looking guys, sex "just happens". But would you pursue sex and relationships if these issues were suddenly fixed? If some magician cast a handsome spell on you and cured your AIDS today, would you go and try to bang succubi and their daughters? If yes, then a wizard you are not, for you have not come to appreciate the celibate life.


You're discussing the topic in bad faith. You know very well virgin men are detested in western society, to the point of being labeled as freaks should they publicly represent that fact in front of an audience.

"The 42 year old virgin" only became a Hollywood blockbuster because the entire premise is absurd to normies. They see a man so old who still remains a virgin as an anomaly akin to aliens. The entire plot revolves around normies trying to make him get sex.

Admitting the fact publicly is enough to get even a regular neurotypical normie cast out of a social circle as people avoid shame through association.

It has been around 500 years since anyone in the west saw male virginity as a virtue except those small enclaves of virgins themselves.


everyone knows lock and key allegory.
even if unsubstantiated in this modern age because the entire culture is now pathological and internalized, so everything is reverse and high value becomes low value, low value high value.

choosing celibacy and not a fox and grapes conundrum is another hurdle. there is an important difference. overton shift in real time with now a not insignificant portion of men are now virgins into their 20's.

if you can't publicly and openly admit to being a male virgin, in person, without any difficulty or shame or embarrassment, i seriously question your commitment to wizardry and you have a lot of work ahead of you as you're still subscribed to and internalizing pathological normal beliefs.


the difference here is that there is a caste of privileged peoples on wizchan that have had a silver spoon inserted in their rectum since birth and have no idea how insanely difficult life is on hard mode when you have no health no wealth no family and all attributable to very poor luck, being too good of a person so as to not take enough resources for yourself and be left behind, a combination of these or all.

two wildly different perspectives, one is based in reality, another is based in self-delusion and ignorance. rest-assured the times ahead will see obfuscation cast aside and the scene will be elucidated.


The only criteria and rule listed is an age past 30 and being a virgin. Money doesn't have anything to do with it.

Also why are you gatekeeping wizchan, you literally joined 2 weeks ago and are spamming every topic.
It's like those newly converted muslims and mormons who are more zealous than the members who were there for 6 decades.


i was in irc when thunderwheels was trying to make mods out of anyone in early 2013, and was offering sale of website. i been here long enough to have been able to have bought it myself.

money has everything to do with it. you wouldn't understand.


>if you can't publicly and openly admit to being a male virgin, in person,
where exactly should I go in public to admit that i've never had sexual relations? This is the most stupid shit I've read on wizchan. I've got no friends like you mr normalfag and I don't have an image to keep unlike you. You're seriously stupid if you think a wizard should be outside telling others that he is a virgin, it's a personal private matter, and only normalniggers discuss unsolicited personal private sexual matters in the open.
You must be some underage retard.


It's a hypothetical you dense retard. What it means is that if you hold any amount of shame for your status as a virgin, and would seek to deny that status to even those who have no influence on your day to day life, then you're not a wizard. For you to take hypothetical so literally and then explode over them and enter defense mode speaks volumes about your insecurities, as even on an anonymous imageboard you get seriously butthurt over your sacred honor being sullied.
>I have no friends so i'm the TRUE WIZCEL
But if you did have friends, you'd probably get upset if they mentioned you were a virgin. That's why you'r a wahhwahh baby poo pants crab.


>if you hold any amount of shame for your status as a virgin
why you project this hard over people you don't know on the internet and in a site for virgins, you disingenuous mongrel? Even if a wizard here doesn't want to admit that he is a virgin to others, he must have his personal reasons. Why should anyone discuss what is private among others who don't matter to him. Just because some faggot like you says so lol
>you'd probably get upset if they mentioned you were a virgin. That's why you'r a wahhwahh baby poo pants crab.
Lol you will never be a wizard, you actually project and insult virgins on a virgin site.


>you actually project and insult virgins on a virgin site.
What is being said is that men who are virgins shouldn't have any shame in being a virgin. ESL crab.


Same. I've accepted that I am an in cel and have no chance in a normalfag environment less in 'dating', relationships always seemed alien and boring to me and I don't think females even want me talking to them, and also I've always found them boring and annoying, just good to look on hentai or porn and masturbate. I assume that's the case for 99 percent of wizards.

I can say I've learnt to live like this and with a lot of comfort.

They do hate us i ncels because we crush the false worldview and narrative that this world is fair and everyone can achieve everything as long as they have goals or set their minds to, which is obviously false.

Normalfags would never accept that some things cannot be fixed because they need to protect their egos. They think they are like superman and can adopt some persona where they are billionare chads who have control over everything, but that's just another cope. Mindset is just bullshit when you're faced with a reality that doesn't match up said mindset.

Indeed, normalfags are so stupid they think an autistic 5 feet 2 male is choosing to be a shutin and recluse i ncel when in reality he's been treated badly his entire life and knows there is no point.

They really can't understand that some people don't have a chance. They are even so delusional they think everyone can be a volcel because it's just a mindset, something you can adopt anytime, it's bullshit of course but normalfags always buy into this kind of things because it makes them feel comfortable.


ok. lets do a break down.

>where exactly should I go in public to admit that i've never had sexual relations?

i can strike up a conversation with basically any stranger, active but odd is the expression, depending on the topic, i may find it relevant to bring up my being an almost 40yo virgin. these are not normal interactions, some people take it in their stride others are visibly perturbed. that is fine by me as i don't use other people's idea of normal as a barometer as to how i should conduct my business or live my life, least of all how i should treat others as i've no interest in becoming a sociopath.

>This is the most stupid shit I've read on wizchan.

dramatic hyperbole

>I've got no friends like you mr normalfag and I don't have an image to keep unlike you.

i'm willing to wager that i haven't had friends for a much longer time than you've been out of school.

>You're seriously stupid if you think a wizard should be outside telling others that he is a virgin, it's a personal private matter, and only normalniggers discuss unsolicited personal private sexual matters in the open.

he makes two statements one after the other, and a non sequitur. your opinion is meaningless, if i were a norman i'd have children older than you already.

for you it's a personal private matter, because you're insecure about it, because you've internalized normal attitudes and belief. i've no interest in following your dictates as set out by the norman directorate, that's your prerogative.

what would you possibly know about what wizards discuss in public? regardless. being a virgin is not a sexual matter, infact it's rather asexual. there is no element of vulgarity which would give merit to the notion you're putting forward. disingenuous and thoroughly rejected.

>You must be some underage retard.

the kettle is calling the pot black

yeah this guy knows whats up


wow this is unreal. literally a brain-damaged normal, a fallen-one, hating his own kind and re-identifying as a wizard, similar to what trans people do. this could be one of the first instances of a new phenomenon discovered on the internet. researchers take note. this tendency for an individual to identify with the group in opposition to the group that has hurt it, even and perhaps more vehemently when the new identity is in conflict with objective reality.

it makes perfect sense to me, as you don't describe your present situation nor outlook as one speaking who is a wizard. all of that bitterness and hatred, it wasn't installed in you, it was always in you. you portray yourself as a victim, yet admit to being a chad, and no doubt a victimiser before you were brain damaged. these things you're saying happen to you because of this or that, i absolutely disagree, i believe what is happening is that you're coming to terms with, and aware of, your own inherent makeup, which gives us a truly scintillating glimpse into the mind of a sociopath.

absolutely surreal.

truly a fascinating instance of internet psychology.


>ok. lets do a break down.
>i can strike up a conversation with basically any stranger
lol butthurt redditor, you will never be a wizard.


Typical no true scotsman argument.

It doesn't matter how you arrived to your current destination, the only thing that matters is the end result.

The only rule of the site is that you must be over 30 and a virgin. Under 30 virgins can post as apprentice wlzards.

I'm nearly 40 in a few years and still a virgin, therefore a wizard. And no, I didn't plan it out, it just happened due to a wide variety of reasons: Physical ugliness, bullying, ostracizing, very unsympathetic parents.


jesus christ what is this post


well OP I just want to say you are a good writer. It's a rare treat when I can read something on wizchan without losing 2 brain cells.


I stayed on 8chan long enough to understand why you have to kill crabdom with fire on your imageboard.


Thank you, friend.


For all the flak crabs get on here, at least they are proud to be virgins and don't feel the need to mask as volcels. Volcels would claim they are nonvirgins to other normalfags to fit in or not get bullied, I've read many posts on here where at work the so called "wizards" say they had a few had relationships to their workers to not get labeled a so called crab aka virgin.


At this point "crabs" are so common that it is more or less expected unless you can prove your credibility. The default assumption is rejection, and that has been the point. If you're out, they make sure you stay out. If you're in, someone knows you and introduces you to the club where society gets to go on. For those out of the know, there is no society, only death, and that is emphasized in everything humanity does now. During the 1990s, they could not allow this process to be disrupted, when there was still some sense of freedom and people who had no reason to go along with this. Now, because it has advanced this far, there is less incentive to pretend it was ever any different, and those who bragged about doing this are laughing at what they got away with. Some of them cry that the world is going to hell because of their pure malevolence, but most of them lost any ability to match their actions to consequences. Consequences and responsibilities are for the slaves - that's what management has always taught them, what they've always done.

I can say that I probably found more people in my life who got it and saw that I was meant to be alone and that it shouldn't be bothered, than people who shamed me for this status. It's not like normies have much, or possess any belief that clinging to this parody of a life they have makes them better than me in any great way. That's not the issue, and usually, both of us know that the society and those who did this are the source of the problem, not each other. Why would we attack each other when prompted, unless there was fear? The normie will have to pick to attack me when he must, but it's always low effort and I learned not to expect much out of people. Some of them even do their ritual work and tell me afterwards that it's how the world is, and it will never change. If you never have any expectation that humans are anything other than Satanic apes, you're never disappointed, and if you believe you've seen an exception, it's just a matter of when they will be made to abandon it. Even if humans are capable of good, it won't last for long before the usual people snuff it out and assert that, nope, humans really are this and were meant to be this. If there is good, it's not in humans, or among humans. Now they're enclosing and destroying the last vestiges of decency we did hold on to, so they can replace the culture and society with pure Satanic screaming as they always wanted. That's all they're good for, all they know how to do.

In the past decade, it has advanced enough that there are relatively normal guys who will just admit they gave up and don't care about any of this shit - so much that they don't even bother being the enforcers when prompted. They'll never "take my side" - that is never something which last, because the concept is no longer admissible as "real" - but if asked to "do their part" they do it lazily. I've even nodded and winked in a way while it was happening, basically going through the motions so these Satanics get their performance that we're all "compliant". It's all a fucking joke, so they can keep stealing everyone's stuff.

Honestly, this shit is not worth agonizing over. There's a whole world with good stuff, and despite the shittification of everything the beast can touch, too much remains private, and if no one gives a shit about regulating your private life - if you don't have a real job in the world to come - you can get away with so much. It just comes out that nothing good is "real", and this constant drumbeat of filth is mandated. Now that AI can create the posts, a lot of the filth is generated by machine, to give the appearance that this has an organic base and "naturally" happened, even though nobody gives a shit about any of their stories any more. So far as any real story is promoted, humanity already went over to Satanism. It's the only thing they know how to do, and the concept that we could even have basic things as a society provokes uproarious laughter. They'd rather have Satanics like Trump and Biden making more rot - anything to keep the looting and plundering going.


As for the females, honestly they don't know anything that is good for them, and have no agency over their lives. They're trained to revel in their following behavior with few exceptions, and if they have any sense of themselves beyond being pure followers, they usually stay out of sex altogether and find the entire matter unpleasant and devoid of passion. It's just a mechanical thing, or something they do with whomever they find useful for reproduction because it's all about finding a sperm donor. They don't care about any of the shit that so many think is relevant. No one believes in "love" - that's for the losers, one of their favorite lies. Most of the world never even bothered with the idea that "love" is a thing. It's a particularly Christian and European perversion.


(Also why faggotry and homosexualism basically aren't a thing outside of European civilization, and where it exists, it is almost entirely passive men being raped to let off some steam, or a type of ritual abuse which is common to humanity's aristocracies.)



Incredibility based.


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>wants to erase the past.
>abused and neglected kid who starts to sweat.

At the risk of being dubbed a skizo,
Just pitch a show to a channel NOT for children and dont harrass fanfiction authors under a pseudonym this time.

Not even if they write stuff of your work.


>At the risk of being dubbed a skizo

yes, making random nonsensical posts does tend to increase the chances of that, but I see you like to live dangerously.


What nonsense. Pakistan has had a big trans community for eons, and it's a muslim country. They are a protected class who have more rights than transpeople in southern US states.


In fact, local political councils in every Pakistan state are now required to reserve several seats just for trans people.


It's fucking over for curries


>"for eons"
>posts a 2023 article


get a grasp, what is this nonsense.


how is his post false? people in the us literally attack and assault trans people.
whereas a poor shithole muslim country has treated trans people with dignity for decades (centuries when including the colonial era).


The older I get the less I care about being a virgin. It's just who I am by now and I never really cared about who I am.


you would care if you were around normies or outside in general, especially during spring
the trick is to not go outside


Trans and gay people are prosecuted in muslim countries and there have been increasing attacks on lgbt people by muslim immigrants in european countries. In germany theres even coalitions with neo nazis and muslims who attack lgbt and leftists together. Muslim communities in the USA are also always vocally against lgbt stuff.


Iran actually accepts the trans theology of men souls being in the wrong bodies, and forces gay men to become trans


Its funny how Pakistan also has the highest porn consumption of all muslim countries so did they just troon out because of porn addiction?

Its similiar to morroco which also is open to all kinds of western influences and they have a lot of people who produce and consume porn as well. I think western influence, especially porn plays a huge part in this.


the islam cant defeat the indian in them


> neo nazis and muslims who attack lgbt and leftists together.
No, you MSM clickbait watching infant. Making posts online about how grown men shouldn't be allowed to get naked in little succubis' changing rooms is considered a "violent speech attack" on "trans" in Germany and Europe and these are the only kind of "attacks" that are happening.

Muslim nations have historically been rules by pederasts who trick Allah in to not finding the sex gay by making the boy out to be a succubus. Some sects of Islam even teach that Mary, mother of Jesus, was actually a male who was able to impregnate himself before transitioning to a succubus to give birth. Transvestisism is routed in Islamic religion and culture.


>I think western influence, especially porn plays a huge part in this.
Porn isn't Western. The oldest examples are from Arabian and Iranian paintings and tapestry, with much of it even being homoerotic in a full dick-in-ass sense. The porn industry today is almost entirely owned by Jewish Israelis who have been outspoken in how they're aware that their pornography is excellent at undermining and controlling Western peoples and religions. In this sense pornography is just as Semitic as Islam itself. Good on the Sunnis etc for trying to eradicate its influence from their nations but in reality it all begun there and is propagated entirely by non-Westerners.


You're a delusional leftist retard.


Oh, it's you again, the liberal pro-LGBT hippie who claims anyone is either a /po/cuck naziboo, or a "leftist" which you insist is different from all other kinds of left-wing ideology


>Porn isn't Western. The oldest examples are from Arabian and Iranian paintings and tapestry, with much of it even being homoerotic in a full dick-in-ass sense.
I think you're on to something considering that there is no actual ancient pornographic depictions from the west. Western cultures have sculptures with flacid penises and no provocative or suggestive poses.

Those muslim cultures however had a lot of that even in ancient egyptian art you can find depictions of apparent gay dick sucking and stuff. There generally seems to be a lot more coomer and porn stuff in ancient arab literature.


Looked further into it and found some of said paintings lol. Also found some interesting stuff such as turkish and arab communities having crossdressers who danced and got fucked by other guys even centuries ago, they have a whole tradition of this. Theres even an old painting of several crosdressing dudes making a circle by sticking their dicks in each others butts lololol.

I agree with you on the gay crossdresser stuff having an ancient history in islamic countries that lasts to this day but muslims still prosecute gays and muslim immigrants are usually highly hostile towards gays and there have been several occasions where they killed their own if one came out to be gay such as the two muslims who got stabbed by their own people in Birmingham, England.

Muslims are usually huge hypocrites who preach things they never practice and shit on westerners despite having a long degenerate history themselves but you can see a big increase in young arabs who do porn and other stuff.


At that age you just become a depressed sage. I can tell a lot of old people don't like their lives and they are normalfags I don't know what it would be for an old wizard.


I lost my hair so there's that I guess there's no coming back. I don't feel young anymore. Nobody chooses this life, I wish I could at least have my hair back.


pretty good post


it is strange, seems like some breadtuber take; "entitled privileged virgins", - just more demonisation so nobody will extend any empathy whatsoever.


>Society isn't ridiculing voluntary celibates.
well actually yes it is (or would, if volcels were even relevant), society would never consider a sexless man to be voluntarily sexless, its a hysterical proposition to the average person. and regardless theyre still virgin, low status men, the biggest punching bags of society.


Any virtuosity gets mocked in todays world and labeled as naive, if you choose to not partake in something they will automatically assume that you are a weirdo. In our feminized world you only get rewarded for superficial stuff such as your dick, sexual experience and attractiveness but not for your virtues. I'm not saying it was way better in past days but men seemed to get rewarded for more relevant things in the past other than now where its all about how attractive you are to succubi or how well you go along with modern bullshit. That's why the attack on male autist spaces is a last direct attack on masculinity as well, they try to bully everyone into submission and dumb men down to being chimpanzees who only do things to get validated by succubi. A mans status is not based on his intelligence, virtues, strength, views or skills but its all about how well he plays into this feminine thing and that's why thug lowlifes get rewarded more than some uninteresting guy who might be way more intelligent but less likeable for todays standards.


I agree that todays concept of "love" is bullshit and also a delusion of men. Theres attractive men who want to have a loving relationship but they are still aware of the womens nature unlike the losers who get manipulated and act like little boys wanting their mommy to love them. I wouldn't say Christians/Europeans concept of love is a perversion but modern times just show that "love" without the spiritual aspect is superficial and religions like Christianity have been aware of the womans nature too


If you fret over a man's status in the society you have no virtue, so you deserve whatever you're suffering.


Low IQ response


If they don't want relationships hoe you still call them involuntary? >>291603


It's not about what you want but what you potentially can do.

If you are an autistic mentally ill neet, 5'2 tall american in his late 20s with no friends it doesn't matter if you stop wanting relationships, when in actuality nobody wants you.


Whatever else you want to keep repeating to thyself, huh


Yeah, it's like a homeless moneyless schizo saying they choose not to live on the Upper East Side in a 10,000sqft empire mansion.

That was never an option, hell even a single bedroom condo wasn't.


>nations become concentration camps
I guess your point is too high IQ for most anons so I'm going to elaborate and you may correct me if my interpretation is wrong: the feared dystopian big brother system has already been here for a long time because people are raised to police themselves and eachother to conform to norms and values that benefit the powers that be. The 'work-will-set-you free' slogan is analogous to the promise that conforming to societal expectations will lead to a good life (home ownership, partner, leisure, a job that is respected and well rewarded) for all of us. Wizards tend to be those who by either the circumstances of their birth could not or by virtue of their character would not conform to norms that in the eyes of the wizards are clearly not in our favor at all. Such inability or refusal to conform must be punished to reinforce the status quo and it's ironic that the normies who act as judge, jury and executioner don't see that by bullying others they also bully themselves. They're probably very scared that the same thing could happen to them if they don't keep up with the latest expectations.

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