/dep/ - Depression

>>296518
Basically mate, the whole point of hanging as an execution method was that because of the trap door or whatever you stood on was then suddenly removed, you would sharply fall and break your neck on the rope which is what killed you which apparently was quick or whatever. if you don't do this you are just going to strangle yourself to death which is considered much more painful than the former method.

>>297531

I would advise against shooting yourself in the head and here's why. There's at least some evidence that converges on the idea that before you die, your life flashes before your life before you die literally. All your memories come into your vision sort of like a compilation before your brain shuts off. And its because of this time slows as your dying drastically from your perspective. If you were to shoot yourself in the head straight away, you would go straight to black. to actually experience the life flashing before your eyes, I would shoot yourself in another fatal area of the body like the heart for instance

>>299702
Not that wiz, but why does this matter? What is the benefit of having one's life flash before their eyes, especially if that life was awful enough to provoke suicide? I'm not seeing the downside of 'straight to black' here. Aside from that, your suggestion would potentially cause more pain and suffering prior to death, which is completely unnecessary. What's your true angle here?

>>299701
I have done extensive research which suggests that all this is wrong. Blocking the carotid arteries leads to loss of consciousness within a few seconds. It may be painful for 5-15 seconds. People test this with manually applying pressure such as with 'partial hanging': you can try it yourself and see that you start to pass out.
Breaking the neck makes it more pleasant for observers because the body doesnt move as much but it is said by some that it doesnt even cause instant death, it is just paralysis.

>>296760
nta and don't have a self deled plan but
>gonna die anyways
life is just a sinusoidal oscillating between 0 and -1 . i'm never actually "happy" or anything like this. my youth is gone and it only gets worse from here according to literally everyone who has ever lived, oh yeah except randoms who become rich and don't need to work. fat chance that happens to me
>there are literally people in africa suffering more than you rn you can't self delete
thinking about how much others are suffering doesn't make me happy, retard.

i just discovered i can use a belt for hanging, no need for a new brand rope.

I hate normies

>>299812
Guns are the best if you can get them, 99% reliability(shotgun to head) no pain(bullets travel faster than nerve signals) otherwise I would go for laying on train tracks, and if you have neither only then would I go for hanging.

>>299825
a tent + charcoal/wood burning + a place deep in the forest is pretty good too

I think I'll have a train decapitate me. Guns are not easy to get in my country unfortunately

Its because I can't imagine things getting better that I'm wondering if I should even stay. I feel like I'm trapped. Everyone depends on me working, god frowns on my fair weather faith. I don't know how to make myself happy again. Not like I was before. I don't look forward to anything but sleep. Everything feels so heavy like I'm just over it and ready to call it all off.

>>298292
Yes they do. Are you retarded? Just look at all the old people around you. They are all rotting and near death. Age brings about more illnesses, conditions, etc.

Well, you heard about exit bags, but it's not exactly reliable. For one, a literal bag has a lot of leaks, you don't have anything to maintain the steady pressure and a lot of gas is wasted simply blowing past you instead of being released on demand.

What you really need is

1. SCBA/SCUBA full-face mask with integrated second-stage gas regulator
2. 5L-10L gas cylinder with any inert gas (at 150-300bar)
3. First-stage gas regulator to drop the pressure from cylinder's to the one mask's second-stage regulator is designed for
4. A hose to connect the mask to the first stage regulator
5. Fum tape to apply to threads and seal the connections
6. (Optional) some threaded adapters (see below)

SCBA/SCUBA masks are relatively comfortable, they come with handy straps that make sure mask stays on, no matter what. There will also be no leaks or wasted gas, since it will only be going in when you're taking a breath. Be careful however with SCUBA masks, they typically also have a purge button on the nose, which you don't want to fall on. Not serious, just may be unpleasant, as exhaling will be a struggle, and it's also a bit noisy above water. With 5L cylinder you also have a chance of venting all of it before brain death, so just assume position where that won't happen - on back, or sitting for example, but not over the table.

The sense of choking is coming from excess of CO2, rather than from the lack of oxygen, so any inert gas will do to fill the lungs, but helium and nitrogen are the most widely available. Helium is used for the balloons, and nitrogen is used for welding, so either should be easy to buy anywhere. Purity hardly matters, even the lowest sold 99.8% will do. Consider also taking a gas cylinder cart, it will simplify moving cylinder around, as those can be quite heavy. Take 10L one if you haven't worked with this before, you'll need some extra gas for testing everything out.

Mask's second-stage regulators are typically designed for 9-10 bars, so a first stage regulator is needed to drop the pressure from cylinder's 150-300 bars. Take one with manometer and adjusting handles, rather than fixed-pressure diving ones, it would be easier to manage. Most gas cylinders have a valve with 1/2"M port, so you'd need a 1/2"F input on gas regulator.

A hose should be long enough for comfort, 100-150cm is ideal, but with proper cylinder positioning, stock 60-70cm may also be enough.

Apply several layers of fum-tape to each male threaded connection, then after screwing it in with a wrench, apply more fum-tape around the connection to make it completely airtight.

Gas regulators typically have 1/4"M thread output, while mask hose is having 3/8"M thread on both ends, so you'd need some threaded coupling to connect them and adapt the difference. Those are not super common (may need to wait for the delivery), but they exist. If you can't find a single 1/4"F ~ 3/8"F part, try two: 1/4"F ~ 1/4"F + 1/4"M ~ 3/8"F. This is likely to be the main source of leaks, so make sure to fum-tape it well.

After assembly, open the cylinder valve, set the first stage to mask's designed pressure, sit/lie, strap on the mask, turn mask's valve to start breathing with cylinder contents rather than atmospheric air and simply wait. After couple of minutes you'll start fading out, but you may remain at least partially conscious for 5-10 minutes and then it will take another 10-20 minutes until complete brain death.

>>299949
But what about blackpowder guns?

I was looking into death by co2 poisoning. Buy a small camping bbq of some sort, buy charcoal, light charcoal inside car, take some pills to sleep, never wake up. Idk if thatll work but seems the least painful way to go about it.

How easy it is to suicide by hanging
>It was committed by a woeman
>Not even with a proper rope
>Not even with a proper hanging place, just a doorknob
>Husband was nearby

>A housekeeper found Spade hanging from a red scarf tied to a doorknob in her bedroom, according to police. Her husband Andy was home at the time. The designer left a suicide note addressed to her 13-year-old daughter, telling her it was not her fault, reports CBS News' Jericka Duncan.

I live in pain all the time

This website is so diverse on the one hand you have the people discussing suicide and on the other you have people saying how wonderful it is being a wizard and how they are oppressed here by people who devalue their experiences. Although for some reason I think there are more people who depressed than happy. Did we ever have a poll regarding this?

Personally though I won't really recommend suicide to anyone cause you're gonna die eventually and as you get older time speeds up or so I have heard so it should not be a problem. Hopefully speaking you guys manage to turn your lives around. Although it's not like nobody here cares for anyone, like no one would give anyone here a penny if they needed so there's that as well.

>>300087
It can take a long time to die even after your spine stops working and your primary continuation choice is to gradually getting paralyzed while rotting in own piss and excrements left from improper care of indifferent and infrequent nurses. Vegetative functions and consciousness can be maintained for decades even in such condition with said minimal care.

I always just wish the van that hit my foot when I was a kid had run over a more rewarding place.
>my head
That why I'd never be even thinking about suicide now. But I'll tell you this "accidents" that happen when young totally change the development of one's brain. Just being me, physically and mentally slow at a young age and bullied and belittled.
>Hey it's the retard who got hit by a car
>Hey do you need your mommy to hold your hand when you cross the street?
I remember vividly around middle school age wanting to stab myself with a knife in the kitchen multiple times, this is at a very young age and I was homeschooled mind you. HOMESCHOOLED and still got bullied at places like Sunday school at church for being chubby, slow and retarded.

>>300093
Why is there so much bullying in the West? Why don't parents discipline their children?

>>300087
> I won't really recommend suicide to anyone cause you're gonna die eventually and as you get older time speeds up
I dont really understand. For me thats the biggest problem. I need to avoid the horror of a drawn out, painful, natural death. Modern medicine can torture you for many years and you can be stuck in a hospital with no means to achieve suicide

>>300094
You think it's better other places?

>>300096
Yup it's better in other places especially in countries with so called honor culture. Except Japan maybe. Indian wizanon talked about it earlier how bullies don't bully in India not because of goodness of their hearts but because there are consequences for bullying like ruined legal documentation that renders you ineligible for jobs, parents, and teachers who publicly beat you. There wasn't much bullying in Singapore either where I grew up.

>>300094
Because there no consequences for it and because normalfags are wild animals, and animals hate weakness on instictive level.

>>300105
I looked up global suicide rates a couple weeks ago out of curiosity, and it turns out that South Korea is #1 and has been for years. I was a bit surprised by this so I did a little research on it. Basically, they have this insanely high pressure to succeed and compete against each other and the world, while also sacrificing their individuality in favor of mass-conformity. From birth, they're pushed to overperform, so schools are strict and overbearing which continues into the workplace, bullying (as you pointed out) is rampant at all ages, especially if you underperform or fail at something, and depression and anxiety are largely ignored as problems. Personal relationships are also given little consideration, being placed below professional success, money, and responsibility to the community, so loneliness is common there. Most of the suicides in South Korea are carried out by people who either crumble under the extreme pressures of their society, fail in their professional pursuits with little to no chance of recovery, or people who get relentlessly bullied for not rigidly conforming to SK's societal norms. Needless to say, all of those situations are also accompanied by severe feelings of loneliness, depression, anxiety, inferiority, and hopelessness. It's pretty brutal and though I never really cared about South Korea before, I genuinely feel sorry for them now.

>>300151
Have you been living under a rock or something? Or are you a beaner mutt who looked admiringly at Asia without realizing how soulless the bugs are?

>>300153
>Have you been living under a rock or something?
As I said, I never cared about South Korea enough to pay attention to anything that happens there.
>Or are you a beaner mutt who looked admiringly at Asia without realizing how soulless the bugs are?
At no point have I ever lived under the illusion that any part of Asia is some magical wonderland, nor have I said anything suggesting such a notion. I never said nor implied that South Korea wasn't a shitty place, I was only surprised that it was so bad as to have the highest suicide rate in the world.

If you're going to be needlessly antagonistic, you could at least practice some basic reading comprehension. You might look a little less foolish that way.

>>300151
You have to separate the elder suicide rates from the youth suicide rates in my opinion, they're entirely different things.

East Asians have massively high elder suicide rates. It skyrockets up after 80 and they're just ACKing like crazy. But from what I've read their general suicide rates outside of that are nothing unusual.

White people have their suicides cluster around 50 for some reason. Maoris, Indigenous Americans and Abos have high youth suicide rates.

Killing yourself at 80 is a different kettle of fish than killing yourself at 20.

the thought of a neck snapping makes me queezy so ill probably do it by gunshot to the head

>>300151
And on top of that they have consription and circumcision.
Even more grim if you are man.

>>300153
>how soulless the bugs are?
Normalfags in general are pretty souless, asian or not.

I've begun to think of death not as something tragic, or a loss, but an opportunity for which exploration into new frontiers can be had.
It's a tremendous gamble, but if things go well, you find a new world, maybe a bit better, and start living in it, without all the drag of this one.
If things turn out bad, you're subjected to damnation forever, and hell is your eternal abode.
Some say they'll be nothing, pure blankness, eternal rest, but I don't think that's true, and my reason is because-
"The greater and worse between two evils is always preferred over the lesser"
Or put another way-
"If things can go bad, they'll go bad."
So therefore, hell must exist, as it's the worst case scenario to ever be, and complementarily, heaven must exist, for matter presents itself dually, then in addition, God must exist.
The alternative of slipping into eternal rest and dream is regrettably too optimistic, making me think atheism is a product of hope, in some twisted way.

Now the problem therefore is, the circumstances you find yourself here could well be reflective of the circumstances in the hereafter, as "the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer" is simply true, wherever you go, so then… I guess the 'refuse' in today's world are basically just cursed forever.
I haven't read this anywhere, but they say God shall answer all questions, which makes me wonder what the most frequent will be.


What, then, shall the refuse ask? Say, a man living as a tramp from birth, son of a prostitute, bastard, fatherless, thrown to the bogs from the first day, he turns up again in the next world as charcoal for fire, deprived of hope once more. Here, he's trash, and there, he's worse than trash.
That's not depressing anymore. There exists no language capable of describing such a miserable state of affair.

Sometimes, I think, when giving advise to someone whose 'erred', the best thing you can do is simply concretely give him the outcome otherwise afforded from his effort, as telling him to do so-and-so probably only enrages him, making the situation worse, as he thinks to himself - "I've tried everything they're suggesting, and nothing worked out." "Is there something wrong with me?" "Why do I keep failing, and everyone succeeds?"

Sad. Adam apparently had an argument with Moses once, within which he revealed the world exists in a state of determination and if that maintains, there's no point in trying to fight or claw, but simply exist, that the currents sweep you by, wherever they wish to carry you.

In my case, it led me to dropping out of High school, and taking drugs everyday, as I continue to relent from confronting the outside world, afraid of infecting it with my ugly self. Mom even said it herself - I'm sorry for giving birth to you. I mean, I'm the product of her cheating anyway, and I turned out incredibly, unfathomably disgusting, with a face and body uneven and incongruent in several ways. I have an extra pinkie too. I'm sure all these deformations are reflective of the bastardized preamble leading to me.
But why God? is my existence only being used in example of what not to do? Is that all I am?
In that case, humans are just cattle, entities for whom roles and labels can be subjected to at ease.

Satan was once one of God's greatest followers, you know. His envy at the progeny of Adam… some say is a sympathetic plight, yet sympathizing with the devil himself is likely sheer blasphemy. Striving and striving, soaring to the furthest of heights, a devil was allowed grace to the pavilion of heaven, and wanting to claim spot as 'best', was suddenly obstructed by a new, superior creation, for whom all were instructed to bow down to: Adam.

I don't involve myself in any social affair, but I think that 'motif'… replicates itself a lot. Far too much.
Just as the genius and talented defeats the hard worker despite the latter killing himself in hot pursuit toward his goal,
Just as the beautiful triumphs the ugly through no means other than simple existence, all preferring their statements and 'truth' over the latter,
Just as the crippled are secretly humiliated, the handicapped looked down on, the 'broken' nothing but a liability, those functional are deemed benefits.
Just as the cuck is the cuck, and the bull the bull.
Just as females will always have more value, societally, than males, and access to a stable life whatever the matter, as they will be pined for, loved, wanted for, despite the latter, the man, doing everything worthwhile..
Satan, for all his prayer, for all his effort, was to bow down to superior Adam, and rejecting, was consigned to a sure fate in hell.

The word of God is just.
The word of God cannot be overcome.
Your destiny foredestined, your losses and 'happiness', assuming you get any, carefully calculated, tabulated on the scripture somewhere behind the gates of the highest heaven.
It's all a theatre, a test, a game, and my acting role has been decreed as among the 'losers' whom the audience takes satisfaction jeering at.

I wish it wasn't so.
Like an abused dog, I can only run for so long before I get beaten once more, and throughout it all probably look for some way to escape, as anyway I'm brought back to death

>>300267
> atheism is a product of hope, in some twisted way.
Indeed. It doesn't matter if there is heaven or hell for you, any continuation of existence unending is an ultimate torture. But as in plebian politics, most you're allowed to choose in Christian tradition is the decorations of your torment.

I need a method without guns or hanging that can do me in with minimal survival with injuries.

Any advice on what to write in a suicide letter? Should i leave one each for my family or just write one? Is it better to not leave one at all perhaps?

All those posters against suicide are manipulated by kikes that want us to suffer in this hell which they helped to get even worse as long as possible

>>300281
Too much work

>>300342
I'm personally not one of the anti-suicide guys myself, I think the question of whether or not to end one's own life is purely a personal choice so I don't actually discuss it here often, but I find the anti-suicide group to be a mixed bag. It seems to be made up of two major groups: One is the 'optimistic' and 'caring' group, they say nice things and try to convince others not to end it and I think it comes from a good place and that they mean well. The other group is the group that dismisses people's grievances and attempts to shame people out of suicide, and I think this group is made up of kike-puppets and normalfag invaders. The one's who say dismissive statements like "you're overreacting", "suicide is pointless, so just live" or "suicide is selfish" etc. are just trying to shame and bully people out of making their own choices, which is actually fairly ridiculous when you consider that many who wish to kill themselves seek to do so because they have been neglected, shamed, and bullied for most of their lives, as if doing more of the same will somehow make a difference. The first group, the well-meaning group, is alright. I don't necessarily agree with them, but I tolerate their presence here. The second group, the bully/kike group, is a collection of cretins that I genuinely despise.

I think the one thing that I will definitively say here in regards to my own eventual suicide is that I don't give a single solitary shit who tries to tell me otherwise, when I'm ready to die I'm going to fucking get on with it. My whole life has been filled with people trying to tell me what to do and how to live, and it's given me nothing but stress, depression, and misery. So when I put that gun to my head, I don't give a shit if God himself descends from the heavens to tell me 'don't do it' it wont matter. In fact, I'm going to tell him to go fuck himself just before I pull the trigger. I decide my own fate, no one else.

>>300267
the logic you're using to arrive at these conclusions are built atop pain, and pain often distorts reality. Pain doesn’t make your insights less intelligent, it makes them dangerously convincing.
You reason from what youve known: abandonment, rejection, deformity, judgment, and loss. You’ve seen the world’s cruelty and found no reason not to believe it reflects the structure of the universe itself.

Yet even if you are convinced hell is the likeliest reality, that doesn’t prove it is. Probability isn’t truth. And the pain you carry, which tries to assure you that you’re meant for destruction, is playing games with your mind.

>>300341
just leave something so brief and straight to the point.

I just ordered my SN. Hope it’s of fine quality and will arrive safely. I’m really done with having had consciousness.

>>300352
you really assume death is the end of consciousness?
are you willing to bet everything on that assumption?

>>300355
Bet what? It's a gamble, sure, but if consciousness can be get rid of, there is a potential for infinite improvement. And if not, it doesn't matter anyway - any eternity of self-awareness is torture, no matter the decorations.

thinking about shooting myself in the head during break at work, there would be about 30-40 people who would see it

I have my rope and all but the survival instinct is so much fucking harder than what i expected. I feel like puking when i put it around my neck. This is truly horror

if i go to san francisco or some other usa city can you just buy fentanyl of some niggers? or a gun? or they wont deal with a random white boy and will just rob you?

>>300421
seems like the entirety of you, does not actually want to die.
and that there is just one part in you, that seems to want to die.

that same part also worries of your financial future, or better life circumstances, or hates specific features of yourself.
it feels a need to change at one time, or a need to die at another.
it tortures you every day.

why not kill just that one part in you?

>>300421
Narcotic + Barbituric = instant painless death

yet society decides that is better to waste millions on mentally ill people trying to keep them alive as much as possible in some mental hospital or ugly hospice