/dep/ - Depression

deranged post coming up, don't read if you're in sync with society

They hate us because we don't play along. One of the most common normie advice is "don't think, just act" or some other feely bullshit like that. Most car drivers have no idea how a car works, and they have no interest to find out, yet they have the ability to drive it. Those NPCs have the same attitude towards everything else about life - no desire to understand, only go with the flow. We on the other hand, tend to question, analyze and systematize. This "oblivious" vs "questioning" difference is the fundamental difference, and the reason why we might never get along. We ask too many questions, while normies hate it when questions shake their status quo.

>>298716
Einstein said he was in the highest flow state of his scientific career when he knew the least.

When he accumulated more and more knowledge, he came up with less and less working scientific theorems or solutions.

By all common logic, he should have been more successful and skilled when he aged and knew more.
But it ended up giving him total decision fatigue and paralysis.

In the end, his main texts surviving to this day are from the very beginning of his career when he barely understood the field and simply chose to challenge Isaac Newton in a series of three papers and it turned out he was right.

He went by pure intuition instead of *only* deep knowledge and fact, and he won.

Normies operate under the exact same principle, except with 100 times less knowledge than Einstein.
And they win because much of the time in life, winning is just the courage to challenge the current status quo in *some way*.
His involved pure scientific fact, a basic normie does it by creating a better product or idea than his peers.

In the case of normies, it's even easier than being Einstein. You don't have to *objectively* have a better product or idea, you just have to _convince_ people everyone is wrong except you. And if enough people believe you, you become successful.

>>296567
>"you gotta pull yourself up by your bootstraps and make your life"
anyone who isn't where society think you should be, get to hear this!
even if you are a non-autist, very few people will actually try to help you! even family and extended family.
they expect you to help them, but when you ask them for help or are in a bad spot in life, most will either refuse to help or not do anything meaningful.
The number of people who have genuinely tried to help me is less than 10.
Whenever I falter in life, my "friends", extended family and family just berate me to do better.
Then pat themselves on their back like they did you a favor. Whenever I get sick of this and push back they act like am some ungrateful asshole.
>anon why don't you have a GF yet at the age of 30? arn't you ashamed? why don't you just get one?
>well then help me get one then, if you want me to have one so much! not gonna do it? then STFU!
>it's been three months since you got fired! how come you still don't have a job? Search harder!
>ask your employer if they can hire me otherwise shove it up your ass!
then they stare at me like it was something extremely ungrateful to say. like they expect me to be super grateful for them for telling me "just try harder bro". then they be like
>this is the last time I ever lecture/scold you
Good STFU so I don't have to hear you nag! The hatred for normies is completely justified. most of these normies didn't make it either, they work jobs they hate and you get to hear them whine about it at work, their partner cheated on them, their kids being unbearable, bitch about things they want but can't have. worst part is they don't make any attempt to fix their lives but have the gall to whale on you for not fixing yours. worst are the normies who tries to drag you down because can't stand someone getting their act together.

Autism isn't real. It's fake bullshit like everything that is churned out by psychology academic careerist faggots. Who the fuck determines what is the criteria for being "normal" on this planet? And what the fuck is "normal"? Who the fuck gave these retarded academics to play God?

Fuck them. Stop taking these meme illnesses seriously. There are designed to manipulate you to control like normalcattle. By putting a label then prison on in a fiction created by them.

>>298746
This makes sense, I can agree with this. Most people (at least on wizchan) who call themselves "autists" are really just nonconformists and free thinkers. "Not fitting" in society is really just denying to take the bullshit and lies that the mainstream asks of us in order for us to "succeed" in the normalfag game. This is a much better way of saying it than:

"You're not autistic if you don't act like a retard." This implies that the person is making it up, or playing the victim. Most "autists" on wizchan really do struggle because they refuse to take normie society's bullshit with a smile.

I'm starting to realize that if you break down all your symptoms for autism you can start to treat some of them. Autism can have a crap load of symptoms and a regular doctor wouldn't have time to cover most of it. So imo, doing this yourself is the only unfortunate option.

Here's a basic example:
- ive recently found that some of my sleep issues are causes by "restless leg syndrome." This was easily recognizable… but the treatment for it is simply magnesium. So I started with a low dose and a few days later my symptoms had very much improved.
- melatonin – spergs are known to have less melatonin. So supplementation is helpful. The best supplementation is time-release 3 mcg melatonin (that's micrograms = ug and not mg.)
- i avoid caffeine as much as possible and try to keep a consistent bed time
- daily multi vitamin (that has b complex, and mineral complex); then a pill with a mix of magnesium, vit k, vit d, and calcium (good to get the ratios right here.)
- crap loads of exercise can help you sleep and give you energy
- adaptogens can minimize stress and boost energy without the crashes of stimulants (rhodiola rosea is goated.)

For serious anxiety:
- ashwaghanda

Helpful notes:
- people react differently to supplements. What is considered "safe" can still give some people undesired effects. Try get enteric coated pills where ever possible (it minimizes stomach upset).
- If its your first time taking something try cut the tablet in half or tip half of the gel cap out.

imo, you need to take supplements long enough to see if they do anything so it takes discipline. Like, what I said about magnesium. It didn't just work for me the first day I took it. Day 2 I started to noticed a lot of improvement and after that i felt like I could actually relax my body to sleep again. Obviously, if these observations about "what you need" are never kept and organized, the process is also useless, too. I am literally starting a Github repo for my health.

>>297076
I have great motoric and spatial skills, but they are not really needed in modern society, so it wouldn't really help you. Being an artisan of some sort was my only hope in life but even on fucking manufactures people still get the ick from my autism and those position are extremely rare in general.

>>297216
They do and that happens simply because your psyche gets exhausted from constant rejection, disappointment and performance.

>>296629
They do have criteria such as they rate your capacity to sleep to raise your hand and such. But how much each criteria matter is up for the interviewer to decide. A lot of criteria doesnt account at all for autistic specific difficulties with work, seems like normies legit dont get it. If I say, I can't work in social environments because they have too much stimuli and my brain blanks out and is unable to focus, they legit do not understand how that hinders work. They will be like "just take anxiety pills and you'll do fine". Bitch anxiety has nothing to do with that

>>298726
If you really are 30 + there is no fucking way that people just want to look down on you to feel better about their own miserable life. There’s no way. You must have grown up extremely sheltered.

>>299728
I meant to say: *no fucking way that you don’t know that people…

>>299484
A good multivita (Thorne labs) and a generic vitamin C, both for 2+ years straight, considerably alleviated all my autism behaviors I've had since being diagnosed at 15.

Of course it doesn't "cure" it, but the brain is very neuroplastic.
I am more and more normal by the day. There is definitely a nutritional element at play.

>>299731
just by your comment i can tell that youre still completely autistic. Nutrition doesnt fucking cure autism lmao

If you're able to post here, you're barely autistic. Real autistic kids are vegetables who parents would have aborted if they had known what they'd turn out like. The best "cure" for mild autism is to work in trades. Being around blokey men will rid you of that shit ASAP. But you'll have to endure a lot of pain. Working in STEM fields will make it worse.

>>299766
what part of, "it's a spectrum" don't you understand?

>>299767
Which part of my post implied I'm not aware of the spectrum? The part about severe autism or the part about mild autism?

>>299766
>Being around blokey men will rid you of that shit ASAP
please, please stop peddling this shit lie.

>>296569
lel


so, you be saying, a psychiatrist, who resorts to putting "SCH, schub" diagnosis instead of autism, kinda helps an autist out? Lol

>>299766
Tried that.

Got a psychosis-like shut-in brain with that "everyone wants a piece of me" scared attitude.


Good news is, I got a job where my "SCARED OF PEOPLE, not just meek" attitude has somehow helped to not question my boss' decisions too much.

I wish I could start a business and only hire high functioning autistic people. Imagine how efficient that place would be.

Fool!
I COMMAND YOU TO READ THIS BOOK.
Or not, this is the depression board..

>>302171
You mean 1980s Apple?

>>296579
>What is it about autism in men that is not only an unforgivable trait in social relationships but also a general death sentance for jobs
They should make autistic protagonists for movies/series.

>>296569
>and literal not a single normalfag seems to acknowledge this.
There is a lot more to acknowledging this verbally than you think.

>>299766
Level 3's can type normal

Kaczynski-maxxing seems to be the most viable way for autists. He suffered a bit, but at least he made it to old age.

We're better off as hermits in cabins than trying to be normalfags.

>>302184
Fed-nyaa would incarcerate you for mere being sus

>>296618
In my area, though, NEETbuxing requires you to show up to brutal ubermench-minded blokes to 're-confirm' your awootism issues.

>>302184
You'd be better off Mount athosmaxxxing. Become a monk on an island that bans even female visitors from stepping foot on it.
Don't have to worry about food or freezing to death during winter either.

>>302184
Not everyone is lv 1

>>296587
You're underestimating how stupid normalfags are, they can fall for the most basic masking.
It gets stressful though and then you just want to be a recluse again.

I genuinely wish I was lower functioning, I’d be contempt if I was a true retard, ignorance is bliss after all.

I’m in the middle of both and it feels like purgatory, I’m too coherent and intelligent to be considered a real retard but too socially inept, awkward, off putting and clumsy to be a normie

>>297216
The symptoms tend to worsen with age because autistic children have to go to school and are forced to mask many of their behaviours to survive. After that the majority become basement dwellers and do what they want

>>302370
Im in the same boat man. Its a helluva thing to know your life was over before it even began and knowing you still have to live through it. Im supposed to be optimistic and go lucky though, as if theres anything to be positive about being a pariah.

>>302370
You might wanna think twice about this. Low functioning auts act out and hit things and shit like that because they're constantly stressed, overwhelmed and scared.

>>302612
>constantly scared

sounds oddly relateable

>>297415
this, blackout curtains cost around 30$/pair

also, get a cheap speaker to play random Muzak to drown away the noises of the city

>>296567
2 words: Elon Musk

>>302752
he's not JUST autistic. he is a lot of personality disorders and other things.
he's the exception that proves the rule.

>>302621
Sad to hear. At least you have the capacity to read which means that you can come to some sort of understanding of the world even if you don't feel it. True low functioning autists are basically I have no mouth and I must scream tier trapped in their body without anyone being able to even eplain wtf is going on to them.

>>302759
VR headset + a bunch of sedatives/barbiturates to calm down?

>>302174
and then, some Skully turbonormie ruins it all

>>302784
Yeah I really need some kratom now. Like, it's all too much. But the aftermath makes everything so much worse it's never worth it.

>>302785
context: Skully - that guy who managed to overthrow Steve Jobs from his ruling position, and then proceeded to make "corporate slop" themed computers with numbers instead of names

>>296567
>Meanwhile if you have autism you're evil and creepy just for existing and blinking the wrong way
It's honestly funny how true this is and how you can see it happening in real time on people's faces

Anyone dx as level 3?

>>302811
you know, different nations' guys experience the same problem against each other - it feels uncanny to some.


Same with autism. Wearing old "national" clothing of one of your ancestors should reduce the autism hate by making you look "a foreigner partially, plz bear with me"

And trust me, my ancestors come from places no one knows much about.

>>302816
simply put

an autist-like person I used to be could mask his autistic "quirks in behavior" as something foreign or related to ancestor's birthplace.

>>302818
Only gonna work on progressive people who believes in respecting different cultures.

>>302819
See, that's the trick.
If you're bullied because your "autismus maximus" Asperger's alters your bony language - you are in trouble

However

If you suddenly slam your "as a grandson of *weird birthplace of one of your grandparents*" pedal


For instance, my father comes from a city notorious for hardboiled people. So, at some point, I resorted to a "As a son of a ……n, Im not surprised, but its a good thing I live in <this city, the capital> long enough to know <named a reason>"

>>302819
Not quite

Sorry for sperging out here
>>302822

the real trick is, by pulling all of that, you can at least trick people into pretending they dont think your fake-foreign autismus is uncanny.

key word: uncanny