/dep/ - Depression

People romanticize low impulse control psychopaths because they do well in a society where criminals are coddled, like ours. There's a reason those psychological traits are rare, they weren't historically that advantageous. They had a small niche in tribal warfare, outside of that no niche at all.

What happened is retard low impulse control psychopaths would fail to save up enough food for the winter, and then die.

>>300391
No, they would do something utterly senseless to survive, like killing another human being to steal a few apples from them just to live another 12 hours. And they would likely never stop until culled by other people who need to be able to physically subdue the psycho.

Neurotypicals might just roll over and die from a lack of food, but a psycho would sell their own grandmother for a piece of chicken. They lack conscience of any sense of morality.

>>300397
It's the same result and you're being a bit pedantic.

They were hung for stealing a loaf of bread out of desperation, or ostracized after performing anti-social behavior. They just died off and died off rapidly for the most part. Unless they got lucky, found a niche or got to fight in a war.

People don't realize how brutal the selection was in the past, and how important pro-social traits once were. Last names associated with the lower classes became rarer with time in parts of Europe, they were filtered out and replaced by the least successful of the upper classes.

>>300391
>>300400
You just romanticize the past, sorry. The truth is that "psychopaths" were always successful in every society and continue to be so. It's only the dumb ones who got or get taken care of but even these guys usually manage to have children before they are out of the picture. Who do you think create your respected social rules? Psychopaths. Societies are literally run by psychopaths. Societies are founded by psychopaths. Social rules and laws are upheld by psychopaths.

>>300397
>They lack conscience of any sense of morality.
So basically your average person?

im doomed due to utter social ineptitude and anxiety. i cant even get hired at the store because i can barely speak and when i do speak i say fucking dumb shit that doesnt reflect my character at all. im gonna be fucking homeless. im nothing but a waste of space.

please. take me 14 years back. back in 2011 things went great. compared to now it was heaven. but it's nothing. back then it was something. now it's done. give me back someth…

>>300416
lets travel back in time together anon, i also want to time travel back to 2011
once we are there lets agree to never make contact though (for our safety)

>>300414
Riddle me this then, why hasn't natural selection made it so we're all psychopaths? Why is it a pretty rare trait if it's so great? Surely they should've outcompeted all the normies and we'd all be psychopaths by now if it was so great.

>It's only the dumb ones who got or get taken care of but even these guys usually manage to have children before they are out of the picture.

It's a retarding disorder, literally correlated heavily with low intelligence. It's like saying "Indonesians are rich, it's only the dumb Indonesians that aren't millionaires", ignoring the fact that most Indonesians are poor.

>>300418
>Why is it a pretty rare trait if it's so great?
Because psychopaths get murdered, executed, or sent to jail before they can spread their genes.

>>300418
>why hasn't natural selection made it so we're all psychopaths? Why is it a pretty rare trait if it's so great? Surely they should've outcompeted all the normies and we'd all be psychopaths by now if it was so great.

This was kind of what I meant with my post. Psychopathy isn't something extremely rare, most people do possess many traits that could get them labeled as psychopaths. To live and to prosper in this world you need to be a psychopath unless you are extremely privileged and lucky. Yes, I'd say the majority of people are psychopaths. But psychiatry is just some jewish invention that is full of baseless assumptions and moralizing so they are afraid of the truth. The truth: psychopathy isn't a disorder, it's the norm.

>>300419
Nah, most of those people too manage to usually pass on their genes. Prisons are filled with family men mostly. It isn't a rare trait at all. There are just different variations of psychopathy. Most psychopaths don't commit crimes or if they do they make sure they cover their tracks. Most psychopaths aka your average person use and bend the law to their advantage. They manage to integrate into society and to become "successful" people. But instead of violent crime they resort to manipulation and other anti-social personality traits that get them ahead of others.

>>300415
Same here fren, too socially retarded and clumy even for a crappy job.

>>300418
Consider sickle-cell anemia in malarial Africa. Partial sickle-cell expression is healthy in those regions as malaria becomes a nonissue, but the partial expression is still far from the majority because the full expression of the condition causes the child to die. Psychopathy is just one remorse-deficiency condition. And it is related to the others. We can assume for example that BPD is extremely unhealthy in males even if it is often considered advantageous in females due to associated machiavellianism.

Psychopathy is also just one empathy deficit disorder, and the others are all considered extraordinarily negative, beyond the comparatively healthy psychopaths. Autism for instance is a more extreme empathy deficiency disorder than psychopathy (brain scans have confirmed, every normalfaggot redditor is wrong about empathy's role in morality and social development).

Further, psychopathy is just one of the aggression-promoting disorders and the others such as ODD and IED have no reputation for any positive outcomes at all, the first because it makes employment unusually difficult compared with the reputation-defending psychopath and the latter because it is necessarily unpredictable and uncontrollable as part of its diagnostic criteria.

It is entirely possible and likely that the reason all of these solely-demeriting disorders continue to exist is just because the occasional alignment of the stars that produces a psychopath is Just That Good, even if the hybridization of the genetically superior psychopathic male with a genetically inferior non-psychopathic mother litters the earth with scores of subhuman bastards for every one golden psychopath.

>>300322
I don't recall ever mentioning this here (or anywhere for that matter) previously, but I actually had a moment of perfect clarity at age 29 where I realized, in no uncertain terms, that I shouldn't still be alive anymore. I knew in that moment, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I was already meant to be gone and that I'm here past my expiration. I'm 32 now, and for the past few years I've felt like I'm some sort of ghost still haunting the Earth, knowing full well that I should have already passed on to the other side. I sometimes even feel guilty about the fact that I'm still alive, as strange as that may sound.

>>300322
I spent my <30s wasting time aimlessly playing games and browing imageboards and now I finally started to have aspirations only to get hit by health problems that make me lose hope that I will have the time and physical ability to achieve anything.

>>300419
Weird then how practically all of the violent homicide/murder people and gang members
are family men then, and never 30 year old virgins and wizards.

Many of them even get love letters in prison, like Anders Breivik who killed 77 people and has 16-20 year old succubi send him marriage proposals & attempt to be put on his conjugal visit list.

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/norways-mass-murderer-anders-behring-breivik-gets-hundreds-of-love-letters-a-year
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3204525/Swedish-succubus-reveals-love-dearest-Anders-Breivik-written-150-letters-mass-murderer-wouldn-t-want-without.html

>>300461
It's a high risk, high reward lifestyle. For every Beria or Saddam Hussein there's hundreds of others that tried the same shit and got executed. And as I said before, it does vary in populations, and it's the more "savage" parts of the world that have it as a common thing. The reason you see cartel videos of hispanics chainsawing people to death is the same reason Aztecs were so brutal with their human sacrifices.

Even without what you're saying about partial gene expression, in the past the number of psychopaths could never pass a certain threshold because humans compete as tribes and nations. Having too many of them means internal division and getting absolutely steamrolled in a war as the tribe falls to internal squabbling. Again, the high rate of psychopathy is a big reason African nations struggle to build functioning institutions. Large corporations actually screen for them because they can be so internally damaging in the wrong position. Even in the savage parts of the world they were only like 8-12% of the population. It's like 2% in settled old world societies.

They're useful in small amounts, and can get by in small amounts as the aggression they commit can be directed outward at other groups. Because it's internally adaptive they will never entirely disappear, and they have their own niche. It can be thought of in a sense as a parasitic disorder, which is why they're so prone to living parasitic lifestyles.

What is making them more common now is a combination of irresponsibility no longer being punished with death, the welfare state allowing them to just have their kids looked after by the government, being able to relocate immediately after everyone knows what they are, and anti-social interpersonal behavior being tolerated by society to a degree never tolerated before. You used to have to be high status to exhibit anti-social behavior and arrogance, it's why succubi are drawn to it. Now your average druggie fuckwit can abuse workers at a retail shop in front of everyone, and nothing happens to him.

I do believe in a globalized world with a welfare state, psychopathy is strongly adaptive, because there is no "out group" in a sense, so they're free to be internally predatory. But their proliferation is a form of dysgenics and will inevitably collapse that system.

>>300467
>Weird then how practically all of the violent homicide/murder people and gang members are….
Are inbred shitskins who happened to impregnate a living washcloth
>and never 30 year old virgins and wizards.
You think men who chose for one reason or another to not have sex by the time they're 30… Are psychopaths?

>Anders Breivik who killed 77 people
Breivik killed 77 liberal douchebag retard children. I'd send him a thank-you letter myself if I could afford a $7.50 intercontinental stamp. Him receiving love letters from succubi is testament only to the fact that psychopath succubi exist.

>Globalist MSM links
Discuss with your words, not with the results that Google put on your homepage/

I just talked with my mom and we had the same argument as ever. I'm not sure if it's me who is stupid, or her or both.
Basically, I struggled with a lot of problems since I was at least eight: I had weight problems, speech impediment, spine problems (that at one point made me immobile btw), my school teachers always told her I need to go to a child psychiatrist, etc…
Now she says it wasn't her business dealing with this shit and I should've done something myself, or I didn't want to do anything. And that it's my responsibility now to pull myself out.
Yeah, well, what about, you know, raising your children?
Well, she is right it's my responsibility now, but she is adamant that she was a great and responsible mom, but I talk with succubus colleagues at my job and let me tell you, they are more involved with their children.
I really don't know how you can be a normal responsible adult when nobody taught you to.

>>300483
Don't bother trying to put the blame on your mom. succubi intuitively avoid responsibility and will never ever admit to anything that would put them in a bad light. She will keep deflecting the blame on the different times, on being too busy with work, on you, on the environment, on everything but herself. Best to just accept the losses, and make the best of what you've got. I know it's easy for me to say, and that you want some justice, but it's just not going to happen. Try not to think of moving on as of letting your mom win this argument. You'd be doing this for yourself, not for your mom.

>>300483
Well you have a job and can even talk to succubi there, so you are a responsible adult and you should move out. Seems like your mom did everything correct.

>>300483
what helps me is to realize that everyone is a child, ultimately on their own before god.
this includes parents.
some children who happen to be mothers, really like to play house. it's a role they assigned to themselves for play and engagement.

others do not like to play house.
in both cases, their children too, will be parentless children before god.

this is very scary, but also very freeing.
makes me feel like i am not supervised, free to do as i please, until i get bonked on the head of course.

>>300476
>Breivik killed 77 liberal douchebag retard children
So if someone commits an "anti-social" act that is in accordance with your values then he isn't a psychopath? But if you don't share the same values then he becomes a psychopath? Thanks for confirming that this whole psychopath thing is just a meme. This is how society thinks too, btw. It's all right to fry criminals in the electric chair or to inject them with poison because the sacred cow, the state does it. But if a random guy goes around murdering people then it's the most horrible thing ever and he's a "psychopath" supposedly…

The way people behave on the internet proves that the true nature of humans is antagonistic and self-serving. People are only kind in real life to avoid consequences and obtain a benefit. When they can get away with anything, they seek to hurt other people.

>>300515
If someone yelled at you as you were about to put your hand on a hot stove would that be unkind? Many people using this place would be offended and do it anyways, then cry about the burn for years.

An observation I have realized is that many individuals do not realize how unkind they are. Begging for pity, being lazy, constantly dragging others down, that is truly unkind. Someone will complain you are mean to them then spam the board with posts about jews for weeks.

>>300516
Are you really sure that you're yelling at people because of a justified reason and that you don't just concoct the reason as rationalization for your aggression? It happens plenty in real life. People bully someone weak and vulnerable and then persuade people that hurting their victim is actually a moral good. "He's a bad person so he deserves it. It builds character. It is necessary for some future good. He hurt me before too. " is what they say as their brain releases pleasure chemicals from holding absolute power over someone. Perhaps they're correct but it still holds that they're primarily motivated by personal pleasure over common good. I am guilty of this online too so I am probably projecting but I don't think I am wrong at least in regard to large public forums with anonymity.

>>300517
>Are you really sure that you're yelling at people because of a justified reason and that you don't just concoct the reason as rationalization for your aggression
Yes.

I released in my dreams, dammit. Aged Blonde Succubus basically said worship me and i came. Motherfucker. I always could eject them in my dreams but this "entity" had an enormous aura, something like Venus or the Crone (triplegoddess). She was old as fuck, sagged body. Tons of men were worshipping her in a ruined temple and weakass me joined in. I hate breaking my streak, you feel the divine leave you and ruined bedsheets, dammit.

>>300522
wizzie lost a magic battle and got raped

>>300524
Yeah it sounds funny but i did feel violated when i woke up.

>>300516
>omeone will complain you are mean to them then spam the board with posts about jews for weeks.
???
am I missing these posts, or are you delusional?

>>300525
Don't they teach that nocturnal ejaculation is not breaking a streak?

I think I'm changing from a warlock to a mage.

>>300527
Kinda yeah but you do feel the effects for a couple days. Already feeling better and continuing.

Update >>300244
I got caught using a smartwatch with photos of lecture notes in it while attempting the examination. They called my parents and informed them. I am going home to talk to my parents. They are going to add 'academic dishonesty' to my files.

Fuck them. Bitch ass pajeets who don't teach entire semester and expect me to complete the syllabus in 3 days fuck them. I hope they get the most painful and sickest death on this planet.

And the professor who caught me, holy shit, he was so fucking happy as if he's getting paid to catch people. Fucker could've just ignored but no. "Oh gee I gotta follow the rules. Cheating is bad. How dare you cheat in an exam where most people rote learn a day before and forget everything the next day and whatever "knowledge" you gain from it is never used in real life."

It was a retarded history exam on the history of Rajasthan in a CS course. Fuck them all man. I know the history I needed to know.

What makes it so much was the humiliation with everyone in their lecture halls staring at me. succubi laughing. And guys looking as if I have tossed some motherfucker's baby into chilli oil.

And the worst part about it. I am physically less powerful, I am short and skinny and have no power over someone in a physical fight. That pajeet professor was a typical fatty-ish who would've tragically won in a physical fight.

I don't wish for a job or money anymore. I just wish that God made me a 6'4 Nigger so that I could just punch the people dead. I swear to god I would've beaten that professor's ass had I been physically imposing. But ofcourse the gods had to fuck me in the ass while writing my genetics.

What a shitty day. Fuck them professors, I seriously wish great injury and great harm on him and his entire family. And hopefully one day he and his worthless family will get gangraped by dalit slum dwellers wielding an heated titanium reinforced bar.

I hate myself so much all I can do is seethe on an imageboard. I wish I was powerful irl. I would be beating people left and right and that would've been so much fun.

Anytime I pour my heart out online and think I will get a response that might change my perspective since I revealed the deep beliefs that drive my beheavior I get a generic ass "just b urself bro" reply. I don't think I am special or smart and that others are "NPCs" but I can't find anyone who shares my level of awareness without also being a neurotic loser like me. Makes me feel like others are so efficient because they see the world in a simpler more practical way without examining the experience of self-awareness/consciousness as a seperate thing.

>>300554
People always pull advices out of their ass. I am guilty of this sometimes too when I give wizards here advices that I never follow myself. It's common even among normalfags which is where the saying "Do as I say not as I do" comes from because most advice givers are hypocrites who don't follow their own suggestions and are only describing what they think an idealized human being with no flaws would do.

>>300295
I'm tired of people making grandiose claims whilst failing to provide a shred of evidence to support them and acting like their ideas are common sense. I'm not him, but what do you mean by "realize"? Yes, death may potentially not be the end but without evidence why should I accept that as a fact as you seem to imply? The argument that suicide may lead to some kind of worse existence elsewhere is valid so long as it is presented as a hypothetical possibility rather than a fact.

>>300563
First of all, what evidence is there for eternal nothingness after death? What is the reasoning behind it?
If the argument is that your consciousness popped into existence out of nothingness, and it will vanish back into nothingness, doesn't that break the law of conservation of mass-energy? Nothing is ever lost, things can only change form, so it's natural to think the same will happen to your point of view. And if your point of view is neither mass nor energy, then what is it? A soul? Wouldn't this immaterial nature of your point of view, or the breaking of the law of conservation, imply the existence of a higher entity which could surpass the laws of this universe?

That's why atheism and the belief in eternal nothingness seem contradictory to me.

Both eternal nothingness and reincarnation are just guesses. But it makes more sense that life is a cycle of assembly, development and decomposure. There is no death, you only lose senses until your point of view finds itself in a new body. Which, for all you know, could be the body of a mouse whose fate is to be played with and chewed up by a cat.

Dad died on friday. Now I'm completely alone. Went straight from the tutorial to endgame. Wonder how long I'll last.

>>300565
Sorry for your loss. Was it sudden?

I wish I gave a shit about something. So many people are depressed because they lack something they want, but I don't want anything.

>>300566
Thank you. Yes, I went downstairs and found him in his bed. Called 911 but it was too late.

>>300568
Damn that's traumatic, i understand where you coming from. It would be straw that broke the camel's back. I hope you find healing anon or strength to get through it. Take care.

>>300565
you are part of this world, not alone.

>>300564
Consciousness is a process, not a physical object or a form of energy. Saying that consciousness must be conserved because of the law of conservation is like saying wiping a hard drive is a violation of the laws of physics. This is a complete non sequitur from a scientific standpoint. The physical atoms in the human body will indeed be conserved and all the carbon (and other elements and molecules) will take other forms eventually as the body decays after death, but consciousness does not have mass and is not a form of actual energy (i.e. it cannot be measured in Joules) as per our current understanding of it. I grant that there is no concrete evidence that there is no life after death, but that does not make the opposite true. I think the possibility of life after death is an interesting idea, but there is no objective evidence to suggest that it is more likely than the alternative. To be clear here my point of view is that of an agnostic when it comes to this matter and I think that this is the only logical point of view in the absence of proper evidence. Neither possibility should be used to frighten people or influence one's decisions due to the absence of objective evidence favoring one over the other.

>>300553
Tough luck. I never went to college cause I hated teachers with a passion and I hate all forms of authority over me. If I ever went to college, I am sure I'd fail. Professors are even worse than teachers from what I have heard. They are practically academic terrorists.
Literally dealing with these fuckheads is the literal definition of the word terror. What did your parents say?

>>300553
you were cheating. are you a pajeet yourself? It's deranged how you try to twist it and blame the people who simply caught you for directly, blatantly breaking the rules with a fucking smartwatch in an exam. You got what you deserved

>>300581
They were disappointed in me as always. Whenever they see a minutiae of hope in me shit like this happens.
>>300584
It is slightly more complicated than you're making it out to be. But I get why you would see it this way.

>>300584
You talk as if most people have never cheated once in their lives. And uni exams are designed this way explicitly to get you to shell more money in the form of college tuition and reappearance fees. What was the purpose of adding a history course in a CS major anyways? People will continue trying to cheat apparently because learning doesn't matter only grades do. I have personally cheated in my BS in CS too a lot and it hasn't caused me any problems in my job or somehow made me more incompetent than my colleagues.
>>300553
Yeah it is humiliating but don't worry most people will forget that in a few days. Consider joining a gym and taking martial arts classes so that you can beat up these retards. Although in an fairness you did better by not beating him and getting a criminal record on top of it.