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Chose a random nation, Bosnia. Got a gold province, Kosovo. Going to conquer Venice soon.
Just pulled off the slickest move on my entrance into Italy. The Papal States had a peasants war, so rebels ended up beginning sieges in all 3 of their forts and each time I took over when they were about to fall. A good player can fight tough wars, a great player can create easy wars.


Hey, is this you?

Because I tried replying to you once here:

Any response? Any thoughts and how to get around the irritating nature of institutions?


Oh yeah I almost responded to that but didn't finish my message and never posted.

Ways to get institution:
1. Take provinces with it (best way if you can)
2. Knowledge sharing (I would rec this for Muscovy, find an ally with the institution that is not already giving knowledge sharing to another country - you can check if they are on their diplomacy page - this is what I've done as Bosnia)
3. Devving up (the best way if you're far from it)
4. Waiting - only good if you are in Europe and have enough development to increase spread

General tips:
1. Spawn institutions at gold provinces if you have/can obtain some. Probably you will want economic ideas to get the idea that lowers inflation, and also an admin advisor that does that. Don't let inflation get too high, at ~4-10% use adm to lower it. Economic ideas will also lower dev cost for devving up provinces so its good for devving up more institutions.
2. Take out loans or wage war for money to buy the institution as soon as you can instead of waiting for it to spread to more provinces to be cheaper.
3. Use the 'encourage advancement' state edict to increase spread if you are not devving it up but getting it from neighbours or from knowledge sharing.
4. Use the 'encourage development' state edict if you are devving up to it, to lower the cost of devving up. It adds up.
5. Once you have it, consider knowledge sharing it (in the economic diplomacy menu) to get some ducats.
6. If your getting it from neighbours, boost relations to make them friendly so it spreads faster.
7. If the research penalty is high, don't tech up at all and just focus on devving up or taking ideas.
8. If you want to impede your enemies from getting it, you can occupy or scorch earth their provinces that are gaining it to increase devastation and slow the spread. Mostly this is only useful away from Europe.


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I've got all of their troops trapped.


>1. Take provinces with it (best way if you can)
Even with this, the spread within any one province is only like 0.2% per month or something stupid small. Which means that if you have one province with the development, then after 50 years you'll only have like 6 provinces at most with the institution in your country, and will have to throw down like 1k to 2k ducats to actually embrace the institution…juts in time to be behind for the NEXT institution.
You can only go so far because of this. Once you blob out too much, for all intents and purposes you pretty much HAVE to…
>3. Devving up (the best way if you're far from it)
This is what I always end up doing. Because the percentage of an institution is based on the total percentage of development it's in, this helps me avoid the previous issue. E.g., just to make up numbers, if I have some like 50 2-3 dev province, but around my capital are 6 50 dev provinces, then devving up gets them the institution in fairly short order, and because over half of my country "has the institution" (because institution spread is calculated based on total development that has the institution, not the number of provinces that have it), the ducat cost remains minimal.
The issue with this is that in almost every game I end up going insanely tall, and am permanently behind in tech because I end up thinking, "I HAVE to only get this tech at a -15% or -20% cost because otherwise I'm not going to have enough mp to dev up to get the institution later."


O.k., questions:
1 - Fucking how?
2 - How long did it take until they got right-of-way through Norway or Sweden?
3 - They have twice as many troops as you, why aren't they attacking you to escape?


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1. I just noticed the opportunity and took it. I think I recall hearing about this happening in a Novgorod guide before though.
2. They never did. I watched them take attrition for a few years while occupying everything
3. I just loaded the save and switched to them and attacked. They actually lost. My troops are higher quality, 110% discipline vs 105%, plus these provinces are far away, it took them a while to get there and in that time reinforcements came from Novgorod, Tver and Kazan outnumbering them. Also there's a river crossing penalty.
After teching up military I actually lowered the amount of troops there later to 8, don't know how low I could go.

I played Novgorod as aggressively as I could the beginning. Right away I declared a no casus belli war to vassalize Tver and Odoyev. Allied Poland and Kazan, attacked Muscovy with Kazan after Lithuania did too.


If anyone has any mod ideas, I can make anything pretty easily, even graphics.


*terrain penalty (forest), not river crossing.


idk if it's related to this thread but how do i get good at stellaris? i always seem to get boxed into a tiny area early on. how can i be more aggressive without running out of supplies either during war or afterward when i develop my new holdings?


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Made the trek to the Balkans to help my ally I want renaissance from. Also I will probably be the first to get canons.


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Playing EU3


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God why


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Playing Cambodia, gone Hindu.

Takes me back.


Play epirus


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OK. Never played any of these Greek states before. I'm also doing ironman, this is my third attempt.
The thing to do as a small state is to ally big ones. I'm currently allied with Hungary, Milan and Aragon. I'll have to try to ally Austria or Poland if Hungary becomes PU'd by Austria. I'm trying to expand into Italy with Aragon's help, I'm light on transports though so my latency to Sicily is high. Maybe the Orthodox zealots I'm spawning will convert some Italian provinces for me as I switch to Ortho.


Two wars with Naples later, some wars in the Balkans. I am safe from being annexed by the Ottomans. Serbia is my vassal. For the next hundred years I'm focusing on going up the Adriatic and conquering Venice, conquering Greece, also I want to get into Egypt so that I can later expand through the red sea and Indian ocean.

Currently I cannot expand more into Italy for fear of coalitions. I might be able to expand into Bosnia. I'm about ready for war with the Ottomans.


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Good luck, I hope you manage to kick the ottomans back into anatolia and become a major player in the balkans and southern italy


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So I decided to restart this Burgundy campaign. Managed to conquer and inherit pretty much all of the low countries, france, french duchies and kingdoms, north italy and so on. Kicked austrian ass numerous times and defeated all those cascading alliances. Not exactly hard considering Burgundy is made to be a killer but I'm still proud. Ruled the HRE for nearly 150 years but got tired of showering electors with gold and being extra careful about infamy so I converted to protestantism then quit.

New world ventures as of right now: I'm colonizing and building a protestant francophone Brazil(excluding the northernmost regions since castille got them first) + uruguay and some of argentina. Translated the province names to french and came up with some other names myself. Future goals are to inherit the rest of france, friesland, milan, and after burning my infamy conquer those northern pyrenees provinces owned by castille to keep the natural border, kick the english out of the balkans and make my way to Malacca. Maybe dismantle the HRE.

BTW I'm really enjoying this battle pope. Not only conquered italy but also most of anatolia and converted all the muslim population there. Currently the ottomans own only Istanbul and some exclave to the east and they're both sieged out.


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Making my way to the indies now. Vijaynagar was the dominant power in India, I melted a considerable amount of their soldiers and now they're having a hard time dealing with rebellions. Such cases.


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The Papal States is in dire times now and bohemia is also collapsing. I won't dismantle the HRE but it is a shell of what it used to be and I have established control over much of the european land I had planned to conquer. All that's left for me is to gobble up switzerland and go to war with castille and that'll be it.

I've also managed to conquer much of southern india and all of malacca now. Think it's pretty much over for this run


interesting read even though I have zero interest in these games, keep it up


Wish I wasn't a brainlet to be able to play this kind of game, but stuff like Age of Empires is already too much for me.


Just tried playing North American natives for an achievement, how do i keep up in tech? I settled a bunch of land before euros arrived, but it took all my monarch power. Is there a trick to it other than getting institutions?


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Ended up losing war with Ottomans & going bankrupt.

Playing Switzerland for now but I will return to the Epirus game and salvage it.

>North American natives
>how do i keep up in tech?
Hahaha. All I can advise is to not spend much mana on techs before getting institutions. Maybe hold back on colonizing, don't know haven't played Americas except Aztecs and Mayans.


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Nice war against the Mamluks while they were at war with Timurids, didn't even take half my troops there. 5 provinces + 1900 ducats + war reps. Going to look into how to efficiently build buildings before I continue.

My mom was behind me while I was starting eu4 this morning and I forgot I had the 'Anime nylon EU4' mod that changes the loading screens. Hahaha.

-25% warscore cost against other religions (age ability) has helped a ton.

This is a good little tip on efficiently carpet sieging:


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Made a little mod that changes the pause banner into an ironman indicator, so it'll be clear in my screenshots when I'm playing ironman. Also made the banner ochre, going to make it a little lighter though.

Playing tall Naples/Two Sicilies to relax from playing wide.


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Changed it to add a little icon instead. I'll make it more stylish soon.

Also a little tip: consolidating regiments makes them stronger. hold shift when consolidating if you don't want to remove empty regiments.


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sketch of how I'll make it look


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Deafeated the USA in four different wars and as a little cherry on top I released the CSA who is now my closest ally and sphereling. Pretty satisfying game.


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After a war with the Ottomans, Austria as ally. Peace was a compromise, around 45 warscore and it seemed I would not get a better deal. So I only took about 500 ducats from them instead of the 1500 I could have, no war reps and no transfer trade power. Took these Kosovo the gold/coal province. Took Azov cause it's close to two future coal provinces. Took a couple Greek provinces because I have a temporary discount on province warscore cost, I have a golden era which reduces coring cost and I currently have excess admin points.


Might be able to defeat England or Castile in a war after my manpower recovers if I build a few ships for that purpose. (I would fight England to force a personal union, Castile for future coal province in Sardinia and perhaps an Iberian province to get closer to Colonialism institution.)

I may become Holy Roman Emperor in a few decades so I'm holding off on going protestant. I'll probably still go protestant during the printing press age, but when I form Two Sicilies or Italy my country will leave the HRE unless I am emperor or an elector; so I'll want to form either of those while emperor so I can become emperor again after a league war.

A useful exploit for you (not really an exploit, it's fair, they could make it not work like this if they wanted to): when you get an event like this that spawns rebels in a province, you can unpause the game and move your troops there before pressing the button that triggers them.

Day 4 of this campaign and only just past year 1500? I'll probably take a month to finish a whole game. I think the next game I start I will limit myself to playing at speed 3 the whole time, no pausing while playing. As a challenge and to get through it faster.
Approximate math for how much playing a whole game would take:
Speed 3 is about 15 seconds
4512 months (376 years) would be 76780 seconds or 18.8 hours. So about 19 hours of playing. Probably will still take several days, though I could do that in two if I play as much as I sometimes do.


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Pausing less when I play from now on, checking my information and making small decisions on speed 3.


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I defeated Venice's navy, and it was easier than I expected despite my fleet mostly being trade ships while they had a couple dozen galleys. Think I'll move my trade capitol to the Venetian trade node. Not sure about that decision.


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War with Ottomans not going so well. I had nice plans when they were going to invade Candar but after I positioned my troops they invaded Hungary instead, making Austria and Poland join Hungary's war instead of mine. Shamefully I turned off the game to undo some defeats, so I've removed the ironman indicator for this game; not going to continue doing that though. Next time I'll make the shield of the indicator white, to symbolize something that once sullied is hard to make clean again.


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At this point victory is a matter of time. I have all their troops stuck in Crimea, and they have no manpower. It stings that Hungary occupied Constantinople after I gained and lost it. I'm taking all of their European Aegean provinces.

Should have built more transport ships, would have been useful than my 14. I built a navy that could defeat England's instead.


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Outcome of the war. Georgia is my vassal btw, I made it connected.
Had claims on all of Thrace through estate diet but lost them cause the war took too long. Got a free core on the islands of Scio because of religious defection.

I'm allying Moscow and turning on Poland now.


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Curious, I can end up at war with Ming very early by chaining co-belligerations…

Poland very tall. Over 1000 manpower every month already. Not ironman cause I just wanted to check out what playing Poland is like, but I've only save scummed once in a war with Muscovy when I lost a big battle. I've never used the vassal swarming strategy before, it's very effective.


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A no CB war on Saluzzo*, I have returned my Genovese vassal to Italy.

I vassalized Genoa when they had only the province Azov, and were Sunni. I did it right after Crimea became a vassal of Turkey by event which made them lose Genoa as a vassal. I caused Catholic rebels to convert them back to cat cause I want to take Azov from them, cause cat rebels for myself, then go cat and then prot, for roleplay reasons.

*the purpose of this was so that Milan (who has two Genovese cores Genoa and Albenga) would not have all of it's allies; only Saluzzo.


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A tip for noobs: with an heir like this you definitely disinherit at a cost of 50 prestige, hoping for a better one.


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It's not going so well. I've been interested in playing this region because it's so poor in real life, and I've built tons of barracks instead of churches and workshops; so I have tons of troops but little money. I ended up in a personal union under Muscovy, biggest problem is it's keeping me from declaring wars. I see no way out of debt. I'm planning to go bankrupt in 1543*, and using Muscovy to protect me.

I have two vassals, Genoa and Wolgast.

My religion changing schemes have failed because other armies keep happening to be in the area and kill my religious rebels. I've spawned Catholic and Protestant rebels 4 times now.

*when going bankrupt buildings built within the last 5 years get deleted, so I plan it out so I can take loans to build buildings and then go bankrupt but keep the buildings.


I really liked reading through this thread


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Colonizing as Brittany. While all my troops were in Mexico I declared war on France and just relied on my allies Castile, Burgundy and Austria; I did this before too. Also I have my dynasty ruling Castile, possible union in the future. If I can get my debt in control I'm going to build tons of ships and attack England soon.


RIP france


I’ve had this issue in EU4 where “I don’t know what my diplomats should be doing.” Typically, I’ll just throw them on “Improve relations.” But lately, I’ve been sending them to build up covert activities so I can use "support rebels." Let me say: HOLY COW. SUPPORTING REBELS REALLY let you punch above your weight! I've basically COMPLETELY ignored as a 'bullshit mechanic that takes too much effort for no results.' But it's especially great if you’re some rando tall nation. You can break apart empires with that button. I’ve been loving it.

It actually…actually makes me like espionage ideas.


Are you using any map mods?


Yes, 'Fast Universalis' which I initially used to play 'Beyond Typus' with less lag. Kind of annoying that it replaces units with arrows.


I'm thinking of buying EU4, the bargain hunter in me loves the idea of getting $400 of DLC for $20. For years I've been hearing about the obscene DLC prices of EU4. I'm really interested in history. But tbh map games like this bore the hell outta me, if I enjoyed spreadsheets this much, I could get a job as an accountant.

idk I did enjoy HOI4, basically playing in Godmode, switching between nations, watching how my scenarios played out, without doing the work of micromanaging. If there was a way I could more observe EU4 for my alt-history scenarios I might like it


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Playing the extended timeline mod right now, as Persian empire resisting the caliphate. Not easy. The first time they tried to invade I peaced them out right a way and gave them a ton of my provinces (red provinces with green stripes). It gave me a 13 year truce to build forts and roads (this mod has roads) and wage a few wars elsewhere. I'm checking the information in the ledger and think now is a good time to attack them. I have mountain forts to draw them in then to attack them with bonuses. Their troops have high discipline and about double morale, and also they have about twice as many as me.

I'm gonna make a game like EU4 but better, just wait for it. It will be more like a simulation, not of our world in particular.


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this was the start


Do the Re-Reconquista


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couldn't possibly do it then so I reverted save. They wouldn't attack me though because they were 1000 ducats in debt.
It may be easier if I wait longer but I've attacked now, moving my troops more strategically and tactically than I have ever played this game. Their discipline and morale are still high but not ridiculous. I'm going to take all my cores and maybe take provinces to Antioch, cutting off their Anatolian provinces.


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Might release an Arabic pagan vassal and restore the religion in Arabia.


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Think I should go Nestorian or stay Zoroastrian? Keep getting random provinces flipping. Going to be playing to the modern era.


>Think I should go Nestorian or stay Zoroastrian?
Enforce state-mandated atheism


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Decided to try it. So far I have at least survived.
>14 years into the game
>3 provinces (only 1 original)
>360 ducats in debt
>Morocco and Tunis are solid allies
>11 year truce with Castile and Portugal
I'm going to have to go bankrupt. I'm going to the new world ASAP.


Good luck on your new world ventures.


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Haha Imereti.


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Protip (I just figured this out):
With this map mode, clicking a country reveals the zones of control; this is useful for finding spots to place troops to prepare for estate revolts (because outside zones of control you get negative effects if they occupy it).


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Getting absolutely flooded with chinese immigrants.
USA's getting like 30k


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My Persia game so far starting as Mazandaran, only been playing like 90 minutes a day lately. (usually a war or two)

My vassals are Imereti*, Khiva, Afghanistan and Mulan.
My allies are Bengal and Austria.
*almost annexed

The feudal theocracy government of Persia has a mechanic that gives you claims on all neighbouring neutral or enemy provinces of other religions. I have just taken provinces from Vijyanagar positioned such that I can get claims on so many provinces.

I've become so powerful the coalition against me just dissolved because they have no chance against me. So I can expand even more, Qara Qoyunlu and the Ottomans are my next targets.

I just dev'd up to get printing press, so far no great powers have adopted it. I will certainly spawn world trade.

Ideas are innovative, influence and administrative, all complete. My innovativeness is 100. With all my modifiers I teched up admin as soon as I was not ahead of time for less than 300 mana. Going to try to get the Hanafi scholar for 5% adm tech cost reduction, though it's hard to get enough mysticism for it with no Shi'ite to declare war on.

My next idea group will be exploration, around the year 1560. Then I will expand around the Indian ocean and completely keep Europeans out of Asia. I'll probably take Mexico too.

cool, show whole map?


Multan* also forgot another vassal Mewar.


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Think I'll play vicky too. Been a long time and was never very deep into it. Just going to take it easy and play as Austria, try to keep an absolute monarchy the whole game.


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Actually decided to play Brasil too. Because all I know is EU4 I've been waging war constantly. Netherlands attacked me to contain while I was justifying war on them.


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Here is me same year.


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Another run cause I got into multiple wars and gave up (a war of containment from America and colonial war with France and Russia). Anyway, France is on my shitlist in this run.
Think I'll play Chile or Peru later because all the sulphur, coal, iron, precious metal provinces are on the Pacific.


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Just found the planning system.


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>cool, show whole map?
Here you go. Europe is really clean for what it usually looks like at this stage of the game, africa is a mess like usual but doesn't look as bad as some of the nightnare fuel I've seen.
Also long alaska btw.

I'd advise you to restart because things are going rather bad. Try to keep relations high with both the USA and the UK. The latter might ally you. Focus on developing cultural techs at the beggining (don't focus too much on psychology) while sprinkling a few commerce and industry technology (medicine and business banks are particularly important on giving you an edge). And try to pass reforms so you can get more immigration.
Around mid game you try to colonize since your coasts are rather close to africa and you don't need top tier naval bases to get enough range. Start focusing around military tech and once you catch up with europe on that sector you can try to kick them out of guayana


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Just acquired my first coal province finally.

Think I'll figure out how to manually manage the economy. My country has low consciousness despite high plurality. I notice none of my pops at all have luxury goods, I think that will help.

I'm 48 points away from becoming a great power.

Rather bad?? I only had liberal party because I have Prussian constitutionalism, so I switch to it when I need money so I can raise tariffs all the way, and switch to something else when I need to build factories.

I'm allied with England now and am nearly ready to take my lost territory back, just waiting on my ironclads to be produced. I have the least navy and commerce tech, so I'm going merchant marine academia for late game. (+15% navy, +10% commerce, -10% culture, -5% army, +0% industry)


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France is real OP, it's a fucking behemoth to go face to face with. I'd recommend striking when they get into a cumbersome war with Germany.

Don't call the UK to help you immediately, they will get curbstomped like that. Fight the french by yourself initially as they are preoccupied with the germans, they will just send some 30k~ish stacks at a time, you should take care of them easily. Russians probably won't even bother. Once the warscore is ticking really well for your side, you can call the UK for help and the french AI will most likely give up at that point.


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Any ideas on good ways to get reforms?
Right now I have no taxes, and as low tariffs as I can so that pops can get luxury goods so their consciousness increases which increases their liberalism (found effects that increase liberalism in this menu).


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Finally managed to get reforms and immigrants, after communist, reactionary and liberal revolutions & losing 3 territories to Peru (was close to annexing them).


>Any ideas on good ways to get reforms?
Drive militancy up. Keep taxes and tariffs as high as they can be. Change the ruling politcal party by yourself with no regards with what the POPs chose, this really pisses them off.

Also Chile is a democracy by default you will naturally get a lot of immigrants if you don't mess up


Do you just let rebels takeover when you want them to?


Yes, it is a good way to push straight through reforms or change your goverment type to something you want. Beware though it will reset your relations with all countries and puppet nations will become independent


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Managed to take this much land in the War of the Pacific in my Chilean start without going over the infamy limit. It wasn't easy. Included is my previous record, which was I think was just my third run as Chile. I grinded this out after like 5 or 6 runs not settling for anything less. Brazil pretty much gave the old record to me, this time though I did it without their direct help.

This was my strategy, I'll do it better and faster sometime:
* fabricate for La Paz then fabricate for Ica - probably should have just added an unjustified wargoal for Ica, maybe could get Brazil to help me if I did that and therefore had lower infamy when trying to call them in.
* minimized spending, only like 25% spending for soldiers
* at the start of the war I went into Argentina and wiped out Bolivias few troops then focused on occupying Peru, separate peaced them. It was quite close, in the end I had 11k troops occupying Lima and Peru had 12k troops next to me. Then Bolivia only had 3k troops I wiped out. My soldiers seemed like they would all die from attrition trying to occupy La Paz's provinces at the end.

Gonna keep this save and try out different types of runs from this point.


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Beefy Chile, 15 brigades, if not for the UK I could take a region from Brazil. Had to let reactionaries take over for state capitalism.


World domination with Transv… sorry South African Union, beating the mother country and allying with Kaiserreich.

With HoI2, Arsenal of Democracy and Darkest Hour, it's just typical Greater Finland -scenario, beating the USSR back behind the Urals after it starts the Winter War and then finishing the job with the Third Reich.

Playing with any of the 'great powers' in those three games, it's just too easy when you know how the ai reacts in certain military situations. Usually it's pretty easy with small nations too, at least the WW2 long scenario.


Looking real beefy


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Where I'm at today. Punching above my weight, conquering Brazilian land even though they have double the population I do. I have all political reforms and plenty of social reforms. Between 3k and 8k immigrants each month.


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Started another run because I realized it was too late to build high level naval bases and build a giant navy to dominate the world with.
The beginning of this run was smooth: virtually no resistance in the War of the Pacific; political reforms passed in the first few years after that; now that I understand the election events, I was able to get reactionary party even though reactionary is not so popular.

Now I've won the Scramble for Africa. Just demanded Botswana in a
colonial crisis with England. I'm allied with the US. I became GP in 1882. I haven't paid so much attention to my factories, probably could manage them better.


Anyone got any fun RPish ideas for EU4? Sort of thematically appropriate or just interesting goals as different countries. Not world conquest or blobby stuff since that's boring.


Form Alaska. Only hold arctic provinces.


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Did you ever played as Portugal? It's super fun, you begin with very good navy tec and secure borders so you can go out exploring while the rest of Europe destroys itself. You're also a very small nation with limited manpower so it's quite fun to maintain your global empire as other nations get their shit together and start to expand beyond the continent. Keeping your navy ahead is key. It's also very thematically appropriate, I mean, it's the history of Portugal in a nutshell.


Naval Russia, perhaps Novgorod
Naval horde, perhaps Korchin
Unusual/impractical colonizers; at the Venetian trade node the only new world trade nodes you can steer to Venice are Mexico, Texas and California; could be interesting to just go for those + Australia and Indonesia. Perhaps Venice, Ottomans, Mamluks.


For newbie vic2 players I recommend playing Sweden

- 80% literacy from the get go, fast research
- Decent starting technology, corporative industrialism
- Can form Scandinavia and has cores on Finland
- Plenty of opportunities for colonisation worldwide
- Liberal chimpout events early game allow you to pass reforms (helthcare is especially important)

- Crappy RGOs
- Low pops
- You have to go toe to toe with Russia if you want to take Finland


I like the Venice idea
Novgorod is pretty hard but sounds fun
Try playing somewhere you wouldn't normally play like the Great Lakes, Congo or as a native
Or just achievement hunt


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Hahaha Ottos aren't even a secondary power. Invading with Egypt and Russia as my allies soon.


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Haven't taken anything from the Ottos yet. I trounced them when Egypt called me into a war but I couldn't add war goals because our side had the status quo war goal. I've been at war with the USA for quite a while, but they're easy enough to kick out when they land. I got Spain in on it to give them pain, but the ai is so dumb they're not attacking this enclave.
Also I think I've figured out how to build more profitable factories, by checking the data in this box (mousing over daily outputs). I suppose I should have built telephone factories as soon as I could cause it seems much more profitable than anything else. I should probably build more factories using coal considering I am exporting so much coal.
I've got 3 oil provinces right now.


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oh yeah the US war is from invading Afghanistan.


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Got my seditious units helping out my ally and taking attrition.


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The state of my empire at 1911. I just took Basra from the Ottomans when a crisis over Mosul->Iraq started a great war they will obviously lose.
I have one of the strongest navies, quite a weak army. My object now is to become a great power before the end of the game.
Some countries I have defeated:
Ottomans - Twice, once to no gain just cause they invaded my ally Egypt. Even in this last war their troops were much stronger, I had to attack with numbers
England - Russia defended my coasts well and I occupied their most populous provinces in India. This was a war to take Kashmir from Punjab.
Austria - They defended the Ottomans just now. They also contained me once early in the game
Qinghai - tons of troops
China - a great power, Russia helped
Japan - A great power, they even landed a ton of troops near Karachi. I was at war with them 2 or 3 times, always keeping enough troops near there to defend.


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Oddly AI Ottos tend to conquer only one or two provinces from Egypt at a time instead of taking all the levant in one fell swoop by 1840ish like how they're supposed to. This causes their prestige to stagnate and they then go from GP to secondary power or even a stardard civilized nation in a matter of two or three decades from the start as they can't catch up with the rest of europe.

You got lucky about how Russia is helping you out. From my experience Russia usually tends to ally and sphere the Ottomans. It's pretty much game over if you're trying an expansionist playthrough with balkan countries like Bulgaria, Serbia or Greece.


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I became GP a few months later just by waiting for the great war to finish. Got the free place in the sun CB on USA so I took colonial Hawaii (midway, wake, palmyra). I had no rubber for tanks or planes so I decided to start over. Also look at this ridiculous Colombia.

Posting about my new game (I played a couple times in between) later, Persia again.


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forgot a pic


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Really nice start. Got 0 infamy justifying conquest of Panjab. I'm currently justifying conquest of Ethiopia, which somehow is singlehandedly taking Eritrea and Sudan from Egypt right now (Egyptian military score is 1).


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Here's an earlier game where I scrambled for Africa. Doubtful I can do better than this, I neglected industrialisation to build tons of ships and navy bases in this game. In another game I figured out how to industrialise well.


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It was enough for me to westernise. The earliest I've westernised yet. The gap between me and the Ottomans for GP8 is 15 points.

Also, where I stand in total population.


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Actually I will probably colonise more than in >>57946
Already building ironclads. Have a piece of Sokoto to colonise over there right away. I don't have nearly as many port regions as I did then though.


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I decided I take a break with a relaxed Tibet game. Pacificist at beginining, no army until recently. I had a nice industry but after getting taken out of England's sphere I can't get anything imported, can't even build any more soldiers or artillery.
Former Chinese substates attacked China, occupied and humiliated Tibet. I then built a nice army, declared independence and have been easily defending against China for about 10 years. I plan on invading Qinghai which has everything my factories need - maybe I should play as them instead.


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Playing as Sweden, getting tons of tech. I've now learned that you can store up to a year's worth of research points, so the year before techs I want I don't research anything.

Need to figure out how to do industry better. Belgium and Bavaria have lower populations and yet better industry scores than me.


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my spheres so far


Where are you planning to colonize?


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A little planning to box in the bulk of Africa.

Potential wars:

1. Sokoto
Pretty much essential. Need one war to take one region, then I can do a second war to annex.

2. Portugal
The most important area to take is Angola. Mozambique can be ignored as long as Portugal is not a great/secondary power. Might not need to take anything if I build a high level port in Oman's territory.

3. Oman
Not really important, except to keep other colonisers from taking their colonies.

4. Ethiopia
Mostly just taking for manpower. I hope to start a war to annex them while they are winning a war with Egypt to take two regions. They become ineligible for annexation with one more region than they have, but if the war is already declared though I can annex the extra regions.


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playing a boring game, no good expansion opportunities rght now. I'll try to make it interesting.


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I was wrong, noticed QaraQ had few troops and AqQ would join me. AqQ separate peaced and lost a lot.


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State of my Imereti->Georgia game, february 1490.


I like that videogame


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Tunis doing well.
Not sure where I'll focus on expanding, Persia, Anatolia, Greece, Ruthenia, Central Asia. Same three allies, might have to turn on Timurids.


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They have such high trust they won't abandon our alliance even though it would really suit them to. don't know why screen is black in screenshot


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update on becoming a great power

included is a heatmap of roughly where I plan to take provinces soon.

got the Rurikovich dynasty, hoping for a union with Muscovy


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current war with chagatai


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When rebels are sieging an enemy's fort, you can attack them and take over the siege when they almost have it, to take forts easily.


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I got a personal union over Muscovy! This is going to be an Imereti->Georgia->Russia game.


year is 1528 btw, experimenting with style.


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Obtaining an offer of knowledge sharing is really fucky when playing wide. You have to have no loans, be in the green after paying 10%, and war reps don't count so you have to be way in the green if you get a ton of war reps. Also had to reload to get offered it.


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Got fucked by the Ottomans, lost about 8 provinces. Anyway, got a Habsburg.


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Was just running the game in observe mode, pretending to be God directing history a bit (made Norway colonize).
Saw that Turks took Vienna so I decided to play earnestly to right this, as Styria. It's taken 23 years to get to this point. I might also become HRE emperor.
Mostly I just had to bide my time, abdicate for a better ruler, ally the commonwealth. I also took Salzburg in a war they called me in (it was painful that my estate agenda giving me claims on east bavaria expired months before getting called into that war), and a province from Hungary during the Ottoman war so the commonwealth wouldn't join Hungary's side.


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My current situation is:
I have 4 electors ready to make me HRE emperor whenever the 30 year old Bavarian emperor dies.
I already have pretty good absolutism.
By mission tree I can get a restoration of union casus belli on Hungary* at any time. *Surrounded by yellow dashed line.

My current main allies are Russia and Bohemia. My plans for the rest of the game are to expand as shown by lines. Bright red is near future, dark red is later on.


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Couldn't get Russia in on this war. But I got lucky cause the Ottomans are all in Arabia probably close to annexing the Mamluks. No resistance.


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so I'm not usually into this type of game. but i was intrigued by the depth of the customization. it seems like you really get to worldbuild your own fantasy, create your own lore, gaming as a storymaking machine. you setup the initial conditions, and the game writes your fantasy novel for you.


They should create an HOI4 sim for the Leaders in actual power IRL, and they could open tabs and see how other nations are doing, what their internal faction balances are. Gaming optimizes everything with most efficiency. To the most easy way to quickly and simply display the geopolitics of the world is in a gamer format.


I'm playing stellaris and I've just hit a glitch that is completely game breaking. It was in the 2420s too. God I hate bugs.


I just can't beat stellaris while playing fanatic xenophobe. It is so much harder than xenophile. Maybe the 2x tradition/tech cost and .5x habitable worlds is making it harder too, IDK, but I like it better that way. I just can't get any subjects. The game comes down to early conquest it seems. Did you come across someone weak you could subjugate in the early game? Congrats, you are guaranteed victory. If you didn't, you will probably lose. I feel cursed. All my neighbors have been hostile, no one wants to do research agreements or defensive pacts, I keep spawning near exterminating hive minds and fallen empires. If I do get a war with someone of comparable strength, by the time I pare them down to conquering size, someone else goes and subjugates them while we're at peace after a war. Federations keep forming and it's incredibly difficult to play by yourself. I'm enjoying the challenge. I'm almost winning this time, I have been fighting a federation basically all game and each time I take a few planets. I got 2nd most pops, but some hivemind next to me is trying to become the crisis and they are OP as fuck so we'll see how this goes .

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