No.56903
Would you be cool with discussion of martial arts in media?
No.56905
>>56904take your fucking normie bullshit and fuck off
No.56906
>>56905getting your ass kicked by 12 year olds is a normie thing now?
No.56907
>>56906I think it's probably the same dude that has a bitch fit whenever a celebrity is brought up.
The guy in the picture is a actor so therefore the auto hate. Probably not helped by it being a social media post.
It's whatever. Haters going to hate after all.
No.56908
>>56907>Not wanting normie celebrities and normie social media on wizchan is badWhy?
No.56909
>>56908Unless you want to talk about martial arts fuck off.
No.56910
>>56909Alright,I'll hide this thread and leave you guys with the extremely high quality discourse you guys had gotten going before I arrived
No.56913
>>56893why do they? is there some martial arts puritanism where they consider it unfit/dishonorable unless it only uses the body?
No.56921
I would love to try a combat sport/martial but I'm quite skinny, what do you guys advise?
No.56922
>>56921Find something local that you can somewhat easily get to and in your price range.
Just starting with anything and sticking with it for a bit as you get used to moving your body and manipulating other people's bodies.
Striking arts are probably going to give you less of a hard time starting out being a skinny guy. But grappling arts are probably going to be most benificial for you as a martial artist in the long run. But when you start out it is going to suck really hard as a skinny guy.
So judge based on your will power and persistence if you have the option of one or the other.
>>56913>>56893Never heard such complaints, from normies or other martial artist.
The only complaints I have ever heard about some weapon based martial arts is that some styles don't have enough sparing and drills with liveniss to be effective, but those people are usually missing the point of those arts to begin with.
No.56953
>>56913It is just because a lot of normies would see weapon based martial arts as nerdy and impractical compared to something like MMA. They would see MMA as cool and dangerous and hard, but something like HEMA or swordplay as for sad nerd larpers.
(Granted, for self defence against multiple attackers with weapons even arts proven in the UFC like BJJ and Muay Thai are going to be very impractical. If multiple people attack you, then run).
In truth, I find weapon based martial arts interesting. Especially ones that involve using specific obscure weapons that require specific dexterous skills like Urumi sword whip.
No.56956
>>56953in other words they're a bunch of assclowns who like to imagine themselves being bigger and badder and cooler
No.56959
>>56953I will say it again I have never heard such criticism from normies about weapon based martial arts.
Not once.
No.56966
>>56959Yeah I know you said that. Your experience is not necessarily representative of all reality. I have had MMA and Krav Maga people make fun of Hema and I overheard succubi making fun of swords demonstrations saying it was sad.
Sorry to sound rude. I just cannot stand people who cannot believe anything unless they have experienced it themselves. It is really dumb.
No.56973
>>56966Let me put it another way.
Why should I believe your "lived experience" that is totally contrary to my "lived experience"?
Because you are invoking normies?
Even in online discussion I have never seen what you are talking about. Yet you are making the assertion that such an opinion is widespread and common.
My rebuttal is that it's not at all a widespread or common opinion and I give the equal level of supporting evidence that you do.
Only a fool just blindly goes along with whatever someone who play the in group out group thing to justify their nonsense.
No.56976
I boxed in high school. The name of the game was conditioning and cardio, everything else was secondary.
No.56979
>>56973Nothing is contradicting your experience. You just have not experienced everything. Why would I lie? What is the motivation here?
No.56980
I want to join a cl*b in order to learn boxing properly. All I'm doing is bodyweight exercises on rings now. I guess I'll join a gym in 3 months when I settle down somewhere else.
So, what exercises/drills would you suggest before going there? Thanks.
No.56981
>>56980Definitely sprawls (google it) and burpees. Also, push ups. Circuit training is common in boxing clubs.
No.56991
>>56979>Why would I lieI need not explain your internally motivation to do things. People lie on this site about the dumbest shit all the time. People lie irl about the dumbest shit all the time for no good reason.
Maybe you just wanted people to validate you or the attention makes you feel good. I don't care why you lie.
I am under no obligation to take your word on something that sounds fake.
I don't believe you and I am not going to go along with a circle jerk just because you say some guy said some dumb shit one time so everyone everywhere thinks a thing.
You are the one who implied what you said is widespread.
It is not.
It is not only a not widely held belief, but the way you presented it makes me doubt you have ever even interacted with anyone who said such a thing.
No.56992
I just want to say that it is actually rather amusing that a thread about fighting is full of fighting.
No.56993
>>56992Fuck off shit stirrer.
No.56994
>>56991It is a widely held belief. It is a belief held by many.
No.57035
>>57028I'll prove it for him. I was this kind of moron for a time. I was a teenager at the time, and more interested in anime than I am now, but it was still my mindset.
My guess is, at worst,
>>56953 is referring to other teens or anime fans who think it's feasible to catch a sword with your bare hands with minimal training. Which, as a Narutard, is hilarious to me, because if Naruto had just had an arming sword-length weapon, and decent training in its usage, Neji would have been unable to touch him in the Chunin Exam arc.
I don't doubt he's heard this sort of disparaging before. I don't know how widespread it is OUTSIDE of the anime crowd, but I'll bet a testicle that it's the large majority mindset WITHIN that crowd.
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With all that out of the way, I am unfortunately in a small town in the middle of BFE; the entire county is basically farming community. We have a local county fair, and it's basically the highlight of the year.
So I have to train on my own. I'm always out in my backyard with a wooden dowel and swinging it, mostly working on aim and strength of a strike at the moment. I think my biggest weakness is actually footwork; any advice in that regard?
No.57044
>>57035First, your absurd anecdotes aren't proof of anything as you could just as easily be lying.
second.
> but I'll bet a testicle that it's the large majority mindset WITHIN that crowd.You would lose that testicle then.
The anime fandom is something I am well versed in and I can say with certainty that such a opinion is not common, or even ever mentioned, within the community.
If anything there is a reason why weebs are stereotyped as katana fetishist.
No.57045
this fucking thread holy shit
No.57046
>>57045Don't you have snow to shovel or something?
Fuck off to your dead thread.
No.57051
>>57044
> You would lose that testicle then.Not exactly a great loss, just a painful one.
> If anything there is a reason why weebs are stereotyped as katana fetishist.I don't doubt that, but to assume lies, which are a form of mal intent, and considering your attitude…it makes me realize why wizards in fantasy literature are stereotyped as cranky old men who don't share their knowledge with anyone and would rather blast you across the plains than say "good morning."
In short, just because FACTUALLY you get more fruit flies with vinegar than honey, doesn't mean that you have to be a prick to people talking about their own experiences.
I try to be reasonably nice to people, at least until they decide to drop all pretense of civility. So in that spirit, pic related, even if it is two months late.
No.57054
>>57051>Nothing of value to say>Tone policing>Old shitty Facebook memes>Refers to wizards as a outside groupYou do understand succubi aren't allowed here right?
No.57056
>>57054What's more succubus than shitting on other people because a bug crawled up your ass? Just fish it out with the stick you've already got in there. I did ask a question above, after giving said anecdotes, in an attempt to get actual discussion going, but you just had to be a bitch.
The reason I was "tone policing" was because we're trying to discuss the subject listed in the OP, and you decided to come in here like a fucking Tumblr twat with a hammer and sickle avatar telling the person that actually lived through Soviet Russia that no, ACKCHYUALLY.
If you want to be a cunt, here's a good place to go for that:
https://boards.4channel.org/mlp/ You'd probably fit right in.
No.57057
>>57056Oh look more emotional crying, lies, and a total inability to provide support to any of your statements.
Lying about fake nonsense that you say you heard about martial arts to fish for blind uncritical agreement isn't what the thread is about.
If you are such a succubi that you can't discuss things without getting emotional and irrational when people don't just take your word on obviously unbelievable nonsense then maybe it is you that needs to leave.
No.57058
Anyway, repeating my question in short: "Need help with footwork. Got tips?"
No.57059
>>57058What are you training for and what is the rule set?
Otherwise any advice is going to be very generic like run/road work and shadowbox.
No.57060
>>57059Thanks. Training for all-around sword-fighting, no real rule set (self-taught using bits and pieces from various unarmed MAs and informal practice w/friends).
To be honest, I might have to look up those terms you just used. Never quite figured out how shadowboxing is actually supposed to work. (I can only imagine what kind of a "good" impression I'm giving…)
No.57061
>>57060Running around hitting each other with sticks is incredibly stupid and dangerous. Find a local HEMA group and attend it.
No.57062
>>57061It can be done somewhat safely.
Wearing the proper protection or using boffers (foam training weapons) makes things as safe as any other recreational sport.
I doubt they are whacking each other with big oak sticks or dull metal blades.
No.57063
>>57060Ok…
My advice for your stage of training is to go run, do sprints, and do jumping related calisthenic drills like jumping jacks.
To put it into game terms, your best use of your time without formal instruction is getting your stats up.
At this stage you should focus on improving your overall personal fitness and cardiovascular endurance. It will only benefit you and you won't create bad habits that have to be trained out of you.
No.57064
>>57062Informal get togethers with friends sounds like kids in the park with sticks rather than protective gear.
No.57065
>>57063This is true, I do try to keep a reasonable actual fitness. Stupid lockdowns have made it difficult, but I intend to start up again ASAP.
"Formal instruction is better for you" seems to be the key takeaway. Thank you.
Also, found a site on boxing that I might be able to piecemeal somewhat from. Not sure if it'll help that much in the long run, but it's something to get me to move more.
Thanks again.
No.57067
my main issue with making progress is being lazy. I just wake up feeling tired and feel tired all day so I never work out. Every once and a while I will have some energy and work out but every once and while isn't going to get me in shape.
No.57122
I miss grappling.
I want to throw some people or work on chokes and locks.
Striking arts start feeling stale after awhile.
No.57129
>>57122You're limited on how hard you can go with striking in sparring. You don't want to go to hard and get brain damage from repeated concussions.
No.57136
>>57129Not really what I was talking about but whatever.
It's more of doing the same thing over and over again for years.
There are only so many ways to punch and kick a person and it be effective.
I miss the various techniques, always having something new to work on. I feel like with striking once you got the main stuff down all that you can really do is grind your physical and mental abilities.
No.57156
Anyone know where cheap wrestling/judo mats can be bought?
Thinking about getting a 10x10 for ~$500 unless I find a better deal.
No.57158
>>57129You're limited in grappling too. Nobody wants to go 100% most of the time in BJJ.
No.57300
Mats came yesterday.
Time to put them to good use today. Hopefully my breakfalls are still top notch.
No.57303
I've been looking into what's available in my area as far as muay thai and hema is concerned but the idea of having to deal with groids, especially with all this corona shit that'll probably be around for a long time, has been somewhat discouraging.
No.57304
>>57303If you are healthy enough to do muay thai you probably don't have to worry about corona.
And with hema you can just use pole arms to keep 6 feet away, lol.
Besides, when else do you get to hit normies and not go to jail or something for it?
You don't have to like them, you can just think of them as defective training equipment. One day there will be robots you can spar with like in Psychopass, but until then you just have to make due.
No.57305
>>57304Good point. And after a while you can sort of train on your own once you start grasping the fundamentals right?
No.57306
>>57305Depends on why you are going.
If you want your skills to be functional then sparing and partner drills are kind of required.
If you just care about health, form/cultual preservation, or whatever then it's a lot less important and you can make slow improvement even alone in those areas once you have the fundamentals. In those cases investing in a mirror or camera would be a good idea so you can look over your movements and check your form from different angles.
But yeah, if you actually want to be able to fight you have to practice fighting through sparing and drills with other people.
No.57617
Got myself a weighted vest for my birthday.
Really turns a dull workout with the kids into a sweat fest where I was huffing and puffing by the end.
It's one of those adjustable weight ones so I started out with 10% of my bodyweight and have the goal of slowly increasing it to the max at 20%.
No.57618
>>57617You workout with your kids? Are they in karate or something
No.57619
>>57618Yes, I am a karate instructor.
No.57622
>>57619based Miyagi Wiz.
Train the young to defend themselves against the bullies like you did in Karate Kid with Daniel San.
No.57640
I don't know why I should get strong to win fights when I can just get bear mace and spray them in the face and kick them in the nuts
No.57641
>>57640You do know there is a weapons thread if you are more interested in spray and pray then the topic of martial arts.
Speaking of spray, use mace made for humans. It's formulation is far stonger to account for humans duller senses.
Seriously look at the concentration of the active ingredient if you do not believe me.
It's a bit off topic but I dislike that bit of fud lore about bear mace being ideal for using against humans. Bears have a sense of smell like a thousand times stronger then ours. A diluted concentration that has a greater range is potent enough for bear defense.
It is not potent enough to stop a enraged druggy though. You want a higher concentration of OC in that situation.
No.57642
>>57641>duller sense of smelleh, maces aren't supposed to be stink bombs, they're pseudo nerve gases that trigger that particular pain receptor that simulates burning, has nothing to do with odor, I have some of the strongest "human" maces and they don't smell like much of anything
not sure where you got the idea that mace works by smelling bad
>Seriously look at the concentration of the active ingredient if you do not believe me.I researched it a long time ago, bear mace burns more than any of the "human" maces if you're measuring things according to the part that actually causes the burning sensation and not some gimmick like SHU
No.57645
>>57642>>57640I am just going to take a wild guess and just assume this is the Alaskan trying to stir shit again.
Seriously go back you your garbage fire of a circle jerk in the weapons thread then be a idiot here.
No.57657
>>57645you said something funny so I answered it with some facts, how's that stirring shit? I never heard someone imply that mace works by smelling bad and grossing people out
No.57665
Fun tip of the day.
Lifting weights makes most weapon training easier.
Having a good bodyweight routine makes it easier to learn and do advanced empty hand techniques.
So if you feel yourself hitting a wall, work out and get stronger. It helps.
No.57690
For those who actually train martial arts what do you think would be the ideal itinerary for a hour and a half class?
No.58417
>>57303I wish I could find some place that will just let me spar without having to take classes. I could enjoy that I think. I am going to ask the place near me again once I get into shape. They said no last time but I bet they are more desperate for money now after covid.
No.58418
>>58417That would be too much of a liability, and your tiny bit of money wouldn't be worth the risk of dealing with you.
Some places have open mat nights, but generally they only allow people who have some formal training. This is both for the persons own safety and to screen out crazies and sociopaths who are just looking for a excuses to go nuts and hurt people rather then train.
I know I wouldn't let you in under such a request to my school. Same with every other instructor I know.
No.58419
nothing besides Boxing, BJJ, Muay Thai, and Wrestling survived the test of time. MMA exposed all the phony asian martial arts and Krav Maga is a larp.
No.58423
>>58419Hi Alaskan.
I see you fishing with that stale bait.
Stop trying to pick fights with decade old troll post.
No.58424
>>58420Good luck finding a place that will train you in it outside of it's home country.
It's pretty obscure and most train it as something closer to a cultural dance and apart of ethnic heritage rather then something to make into general public for profit gyms/schools.
If you don't have a in with that community you probably won't be able to learn it.
No.58425
>>58423hahaha, you're so schizophrenic
that's not him, see a doctor
No.58589
>>58424I am going to Thailand for a job. Will be training Muay Thai there obviously but would love to give Krabi Krabong a go.
No.58650
>>58589Where in Thailand will you be? I was there for 9 months not too long ago and it was so nice.
Post food when you're there.
No.58775
>>58650I will be in Bangkok. Yes, the food looks nice.
No.59202
>>59196>archeryYes, there are a few martial arts that are focused on or incorporate archery. Such as the Koren art Gungsul or the Japanese arts Kyūdō and Yabusame.
>spear-throwingNo, at least not to my knowledge.
Closest you are going to get is the track and field version which is the javelin throw.
one more thing, Stop avatarfagging.
No.59247
>>59220Martial art? Defender just uses the umbrella to distract the perp until defender can pull his S&W out. It's right there in the picture
No.59259
>>59245See Ranton on jewtube, he's half-chinese and he was a monk for about two years, I think. Basically Shaolin styles are just for show, but the monks exercise so much they can easily kick some ass just by brute force.
No.59274
>>59261A single kick doesn't make a style.
There are dozens of martial arts that use spinning hook kicks.
No.59275
>>59261It looks like Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
No.59292
>>59275You are not funny.
No.59682
Finally opened back up after 2 months closed do to wu flu.
Was a great class but I think I finally tore my hip flexor doing a jumping side kick without paying full attention on the bag.
I really hope it isn't a full tear, and that a night's rest and some anti-inflammatory meds will fix it. Because I have to teach class again tomorrow, then do my regular job the day after that.
No.59871
Current standing bags are falling apart so it's time to shop for new ones.
Anyone have recommendations on standing punching bags?
No.59880
>>56891Tfw when you feel emasculated af because you were too weak and too scared to fight.
No.59882
>>59880Train and grow stronger.
You don't have to be weak and afraid if you have the will to change.
No.59940
I am 5ft6 and have little to no fighting experience.Which type of martial art should I consider investing my time and energy into?
No.59941
>>59940What's actually a available in your area and what can you afford?
No point in recommending something that you can't realistically get regular training in.
No.59942
>>59940Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. You can choke bigger people out on the ground even if you are small.
No.59954
>>59940MMA. MMA is basically the only real "style" of martial arts out there because it's what actually works in real fights. The only real difference is that in a real fight takedowns are even more crucial because then you can just stomp them in the face. Avoid taekwondo and anything chinese or ninja related like the plague.
No.59955
>>59954According to some people you should already have experience in bjj or judo before getting trained in MMA. I remember being controlled in a headlock by a dumb normal fag. Do most "Licensed" MMA gym expect you to have some fighting experience.
No.59956
>>59954Are you really trying to make the silly claim that nothing else works in fights other then MMA?
Really?
>>59955It strongly depends on the gym and the goals of the person. If you are interested in going pro or competing and the gym doesn't have all the specialist in house then yeah you really should learn a specialty like striking from a competitive striker and grappling from a competitive grappler.
If you are not interested in competing or going pro then even if their aren't in house specialist you should be fine with general MMA classes. They will probably teach you mediocre MT with ok BJJ and/or wrestling.
More then enough to kick the average untrained persons ass, as well as get you in pretty good shape (if you don't get any nasty injuries).
Shit tends to be really expensive though.
No.59957
More or less just finished the first time officiating a belt test.
Felt weird but I am proud of the students and I think it mostly went ok.
No.59958
Martial arts is a waste, in my personal opinion.
I've lived in NYC my whole life, I've fought people since I was a child, and throughout all my experiences I've learned only one thing matters: Learn how to stop pulling your punches. The average person has
a problem with seeing through a punch. When met with a little bit of force, the person punching usually pulls their hand back. Once you learn to stop that, learn to keep your eyes open. Stop flinching. This
is why people say take up boxing. Boxing isn't the best form of fighting, obviously. You're taking away your use of legs and your ability to slam. What boxing does it teaches you to stop pulling punches and
stop flinching. Overcoming those two things gives you the ability to fight effectively. After that it's all experience and common sense. Throw dirt, kick balls. Too weak? Use an elbow, too strong? Open hand.
Fighting is a learning experience. Once you get down the basics, fine tune it around your capabilities.
No.59959
>>59956Any style can teach you to take down some untrained nobody but if you don't actually compete in real fights with it you won't be able to compete against someone who does compete in fights. To become a fighter you have to fight, it's just that simple. Any sort of training where people pull their punches like they do in chinese martial arts is useless because you don't learn the real timing. Also styles are just weaknesses. You are just limiting yourself to a particular moveset. MMA incorporates them all and prioritizes whatever works in actual fights. Something like TKD is so limited by its rules that it's literally not even in the same realm as fighting, it's more like crossfit or something.
No.59960
>>59958Fighting on paved surfaces is courting death. One good throw and you're fucking dead. One good KO from standing and you fall funny and you're fucking dead. It's easy to deescalate most situations. If someone is trying to rob you, you just give them your stuff. If someone is insulting you, you just take it. What kind of a moron gets into actual fights? You must be some abrasive normalfag. We are civilized so fighting is just something you do for fun and/or money as a sport.
No.59961
>>59958>>59959
>enters a thread about a hobby>your hobby is a waste of time in my personal uninformed opinionWhy are you here?
>I've lived in NYC my whole lifeDid you think that would somehow impress anyone. It ain't the 70s anymore. NYC isn't that bad compared to most US cities in regards to fighting, tough street culture, or crime.
It's meaningless fluff.
As far as all the other stuff, it's the typical tough guy stuff you hear all the time from people who never trained, usually can't even throw a good non-telegraphed punch, and avoids any fight where they couldn't start it with a sucker punch.
Seen your type for decades. You impress no one and you frankly don't know shit from piss.
No.59962
>>59956Yeah I am not interested in becoming professional, I just want to lesrn some basic wrestling moves,techniques,grapples, slams ,submission escapes and defense moves, enough to deal with both smaller and larger target if I ever get into an annoyong situation again. Learning to escape basic moves such as headlocks, and masterlocks and bearhugs are my number one priority.Learning to slam others comes second.
No.59963
>>59961>>59960Don't know what about my post seemed negative, and knowing where I am I'm sure it didn't need to seem like anything for you to take offense. Anyway, my statement still stands. Follow through punches + flinch control = better fighting. Try to have a nice day.
No.59964
>>59962Again, what is best for you depends on what is available in your area and price range.
Judo, BJJ, Sambo, Folk Wrestling, Freestyle, Greco-Roman, Catch, MMA gym, and many more all have what you are looking for.
If they have regular sparing and drills with resistance then odds are it will get you to your goals.
No.59974
>>59958>>59963What a ignorant jackass.
No.60108
>>59960OK OSHA.
How many street fights I saw happen: loads.
How many dead guys I've seen: nil.
No.60134
>>60108I'm not him but the damage is considerably worse on the pavement, especially if the back of the head bounces off the floor. That is where the brain stem is.
No.60142
>>60087I don't have any actual merit, so take my advice with a grain of salt. However, I do watch fighting videos and shadowbox/train daily. I have a basic understanding of the fundamentals of fighting which are striking, balance, momentum, and movement.
As far as Muay Thai vs. Karate goes, I would probably say it depends on what your actual use is for learning martial arts in general.
In my opinion, Muay Thai is the absolute best martial art for striking, as it incorporates all 8 limbs (hands, legs, elbows, knees). Other martial arts, especially Karate, are more limited by rules and what parts of the body you can and can't use.
I won't pretend like I know a lot about Karate, but my understanding is that it's primarily a point-based striking sport, whereas Muay Thai has a lot of focus on conditioning and warrior training.
Either way, whichever one you choose will be better than doing nothing.
tldr;
>If you want to learn how to strike effectively and take hits, do Muay Thai>If you're scared of being knocked out, or value your brain cells, do Karate No.60144
>>60142I think you missed the question that was being asked.
It was about preference for the kinds of sidekick. Not which art was better.
Thai side kick is more square and using the ball of the foot, while the traditional side kick that just about every other art uses turns all the way to the side and uses the heel of the foot.
Like, did you not read the thumbnail or click to see the title of the video?
No.60147
>>60087Isn't that just a twist kick? Twist kicks are based.
No.60149
>>60147No, different force vector and application.
I see the similarity in hip position though.
No.60160
>>60159
>a gun
enjoy getting rittenhouse'd the first time you use that thing
No.60179
>>60178>WataaahhhhhhStop
Don't shitpost here.
No.60294
>>56891How do I beat up bullies?
No.60295
>>60294THis Website is for adults.
Use the legal system and avoid physical confrontation unless there is literally no other option to protect against physical assault.
You are too old to get into fist fights because of feels. You will just end up in jail unless it was legally justified.
It is a lot easier and faster to report them or get away then the long and hard process of learning how to actually fight.
No.60571
>>60294Psychological torture, gaslighting, and manipulation works better but just chill out dude
No.60573
>>60567The sport is mostly watched by macho retards that like to see generic “hot” females in skimpy clothing, sort of like how you’ll often find those race car poster/calendars not just featuring the car but also some female on it, it comes with the territory
No.60667
>>60294You don't. If you have a chance of fighting back you're not being bullied.
No.62025
>>60573>The sport is mostly watched by macho retards that like to see generic “hot” females in skimpy clothingEh… That's the perception that some people have and the presence of ring succubi definitely adds to that image of the sport. I wouldn't say it's entirely accurate; anecdotally speaking, I know some smart people who are bored by all sports except MMA. Personally, MMA, boxing and Muay Thai are the only sports that I have ever cared about or enjoyed watching.
The ring succubi originated in boxing from a very different era when people would really enjoy seeing semi nude succubi as it was rare to see. These days with instant access free pornography, ring succubi are a stupid anachronism.
No.62132
>>58418It's a legit sociopathic request.
"I don't know you guys, but let me, a random with bad vibes "spar" you. I know that covid has left you desperate for cash"
No.63559
Who is the greatest MMA fighter of each decade?
My opinions:
>90s - Don Frye (Royce Gracie & Tank Abbott are still legendary)
>2000s - George St. Pierre
>2010s - Khabib Nourmagomedov
>2020s - Stipe Miocic
No.63561
>>60567Any succubus who can offer nothing but her body or looks is useless in general
No.63585
>>57303The truth is that nothing beats a well placed pipe bomb. It doesn’t matter how long you train, how hard you spar, or how many friends you bring with you. You want to meet on the street? You’ll just get blown up before you even see your opponent who lounging hundreds of yards away. NOTHING beats a well placed pipe bomb.
No.63586
>>63585A pipe bomb is hard to aim, indiscriminate. Are guns unavailable?
No.63588
its interesting how we have a thread about martial arts and some faggots start posting about killing people. lets start another deadlift thread and look how fast some limp wristed faggots will turn it into something else.
somehow every thread on here turns into complete mental illness. can't even have a thread about sports without some inferiority complex having weirdo making it about something edgy. im about to start a bodybuilding thread just to see what happens.
inb4 "a male virgin doesn't need all this normie macho stuff because im a fag"
No.63598
>>63588the quality of discussion here has always been absolute trash. i dont even know why im here
No.63599
>>63598I think I'm about to leave and never come back again at this point, this site really went down the drain over the last few years and especially this year it went to complete shit.
It also seems like there are way less people on here than a few years ago which is evident when you can even recognize the writing style of certain posters especially that weird faggot who keeps calling people crabs and compulsively posts about porn and leftists politics in every thread which we already have a thread about on /meta/.
It just doesn't feel like what it used to be anymore but I'm glad I got to experience the good times when people had more of a similar way of looking at things and discussions were on a higher level intellectually, maybe it's time to leave this place.
No.63601
>>63588You can talk about normie macho stuff anywhere else with a better level of discourse. If you aren't looking for the asperger retard perspective on sports and macho activities, then why are you here? Like no shit a bunch of virgin NEETs have problems with it.
No.63603
>>63601Theres still people on here who enjoy these things, we had a decent lifting thread some weeks ago. I just don't understand why some guys get triggered so much by these topics, it really must be some kind of inferiority complex and that is just gay and not the same thing as just not being into something.
Also being a male virgin neet doesn't mean that you have to like stereotypical nerd stuff all the time.
No.63610
>>63599>>63588I've always had trouble with form on deadlifts and think it probably harmed my back when I started lifting, which is why I don't recommend people doing it. You hardly ever see free bar exercises being done at the gym at all. So please don't call me DYEL because I'm not.
Anyways I agree with everything you're saying about the site. Maybe if you go to /meta/ they'll actually ban the poster you're talking about for derailing countless threads and turning the entire site into a joke. But I doubt that because the mods seem to be all in on it. They banned me for just posting politics in the crawl thread but can't get rid of the pedophile who larps about having a LDR and posts pedophillia all day while derailing threads.
No.63612
>>63610Funny enough theres already a thread on that issue since over a month ago
https://wizchan.org/meta/res/63037.html No.63614
>>63588I agree. I'd like to participate in your thread if you make it.
No.63698
It's tough to stay inspired when training solo.
Between formal classes right now and just trying to keep up my skills and stay in shape.
It's just without that external accountability it's so easy to slack off or stagnant.
Doesn't help that I find forms/kata boring waste of time and my favorite part of martial arts is sparing.
I need to figure out how to keep solo training fresh otherwise I will stagnate in my development as a martial artist.
No.63722
>>63698Solo training? How is that possible?
No.63726
>>63722I have only ever trained solo. I just got a punching bag and used it to practice punching and kicking technique. I would like to spar but the places I've reached out to won't let me spar unless I take classes which I'm not interested in. I figure I'll try to find some place to spar again soon.
No.63727
>>63726how do you guys not end up fucking up your hands doing punching bags? I would wear gloves when I boxed and it still hurt after 30 minutes doing it if I actually decided to whale
No.63729
>>63727I wear wraps plus a pair of padded wraps on top of those plus 16 oz gloves and I still cut my knuckles basically every time I use the punching bag. It's okay though, you get used to it. For a while my tendons would hurt and creak and squeak sometimes quite intensely, but I guess I finally conditioned my hands to where that doesn't happen anymore. It's the short range hooks that catch on the front of the bag that seem to rip the knuckles for me. Everything else is fine. I could probably just throw less short hooks and it would be fine.
No.63730
>>63727Have you gotten a bone density test?
No.63732
>>63728Which you won't have without any training.
No.63733
>>63732yeah well i didnt tell OP to hurt himself
No.63734
>>63730Not the anon you asked but how do you increase your bone density? I feel I also have very weak bones.
No.63736
>>63734Those from cultures who sleep, sit, and walk on hard surfaces are noted as having a thicker bone density close to that of a large wild animal's. The offspring of these people, now born in to a world of mattresses, couches, and shoes, suffer from more cavitatious bones. Obese people will tend to have heavier bones which grew to support the stresses of their weight.
Improving bone density much the same as developing muscle tissue. You stress the bone, then feed and recover with calcium and what the body needs in order to put the calcium on the bone (if anything). Regular exercises which strain the muscle should also strain whatever bone the muscle is grounded to so any exercise is going to contribute. Anything that transfers your momentum in to an object is very good, like jumping jacks that shake the floor or punching a bag real hard.
It's really just a matter of eating right after working out and rolling around on the ground every now and then. You could go extreme and sleep on a concrete slab and condition your bones by creating microfractures with a t-ball bat, but heavy bones are nothing without strong muscles to move them so it's best to treat bone development as a supplement to a regular workout.
I ask about his density because it's not uncommon for modern diets to be completely devoid of calcium. Every day children are admitted to the hospital with chronic aching. X-rays show nearly hollow bones. It's usually because, even if the kid is eating what seems like regular balanced diet, the particularities of what he will and will not eat cause him to be deficient in calcium. He lacks the gut biome to process milk so he can't get calcium from there, the cartoons taught him to hate broccoli, he's given Sunny D instead of fruit juice, and his family can't afford meats besides sausages and fatty bacon. Doesn't sound like such an odd scenario, but that's not going to deliver the minimum calcium needed to sustain, let alone grow, the bones.
No.63741
>>63736Thanks for suggestions very informative.
No.63743
>>63722Martial arts wise, I work kata/forms, isolated techniques, solo drills, shadow kickbox, heavy bags, and makiwara/striking post.
As well as weapons, and general physical fitness plus flexibility stuff.
Sometimes I do little training routines similar to if I was teaching the first part of a class for advanced students (2/3 of most classes I though were drills and sparing related stuff that can't really be done solo)
Stuff like doing a warmup with calisthenics or light weight lifting. Then do basic techniques for a number of repetitions. After that stretch really good. Followed by drills really focusing in on something in particular I want to or need to work on. Then I shadow kickbox or hit something while incorporating what I was working on.
Finish out ether with forms or drills in which I can really push myself fitness wise.
That is basically one of my typical solo martial arts sessions.
Though in all honesty when training solo for extended periods I tend to put a greater focus on physical fitness as it provides more objective feedback for me to work with and measure progress.
No.64706
>>58589>>58420KK is usually taught as a side-hobby in important muay thai gyms
>try muay boran, tho No.64722
I have snapped three different types of springs meant to support the heavy bag. The last one which was the biggest and rated for the most weight only lasted for 2 months before it snapped. IDK if I'm just hitting it too hard or what. If I have to buy another spring every 2 months it's going to suck.
No.64724
>>64722They agreed to send me a replacement spring. That is the best news I've gotten in months.
No.65140
I got a new pair of boxing gloves, a cheap pair, but they had literally thousands and thousands of positive reviews. They come smelling heavily of chemicals, probably industrial lubricant. Whatever, I can ignore that, so I try them out and damn these things are like coffins for my hands, super tight. I use them for about 15 minutes and they rub the skin off one of my pinkies and leave my hand covered in little specks of black crud. I go and put a band aid on and try to continue only to have three more fingers get the skin rubbed off them in the next 15 minutes. I guess that's some more money down the drain.
No.65144
>>65140Living without calloused hands is like driving without tyres. Drop the hand lotion already!!
No.65155
>>65124What a dumb video.
You don't run away from someone on a fucking track. You run to escape. You are running to your car, to the next room, or to help.
No.65156
>>65155he is saying in a fight, you might use your brain and skill to counteract the attacker's strength. while a sprint race is just a measure of pure endurance. so a weaker guy actually has a better chance in a fight than in a run. it might sound counter-intuitive. but the run is more purely physical.
yeah you are running to escape. but it doesnt matter where your destination is, if the attacker outruns you
No.65160
>>65156If your destination is off a cliff, and the attacker outruns you, it means he goes over the cliff first and die
No.65641
>>65156I would assume it depends on so many factors. If you are being chased by a strong but big fat fuck then probably running is the best option.
Sometimes people will attack you if you bruised their ego or embarrassed them in some way so running away will make them feel like a big man ‘Yeah you run away bitch’ and they will leave it.
Maybe running to get help or past a door would be effective.
When it comes to multiple attackers I really don’t see what an average person can do except run. If you are an absolute beast at striking, like pro level, then I could see someone knocking multiple people out. But for an ordinary person with a hobby? No. Running is all you have.
No.66862
>>59877anyone remember the pinkman's videos about martial arts fruads?
No.66863
>>56956no, that's an oversimplification
No.66864
>>66862Yeah, they were pretty good.
No.67462
We heard about people asking how fit or how young they have to be before joining a gym all the time but nobody ever asks the real question. How much of a normie you have to be before joining a gym? I am a highly neurotic NEET who barely leaves home. Is jumping right into a small boxing gym too much for me? I am thinking of lying about being self-employed if they ask.
No.67463
>>67462That shit doesn't even matter, I'm probably the most autistic person in my gym, I'm NEET af, I just mind my own business and focus on working out and also try not to stare at asses, those fucking yoga pants man
No.67464
>>67462I am autistic, I have trained with and taught other people who are pretty obviously autistic.
Same with "weird" and "abnormal" people of all kind.
As long as you can learn basic manners of not doing totally inappropriate shit that obviously crosses the line then you are fine. Martial arts isn't about social skills and most people involved in hobby level martial arts are already a bit odd to begin with.
Also no one really cares that much about if you work or not as long as you pay your dues on time. Back when I was a neet I was able to train 5 times a week and made huge progress because of it. The instructors were actually pleased with my dedication and though I was using my time productively by training since I couldn't find work.
No.67611
>>56906>>56905>>56904>>56891Chad / normie shit. Guys with high test and warrior gene can't be wizards. It's literally antithesis of wizardom
No.67612
>>67611Disagree.
Certain traditional martial arts, which have their value in aestheticism and fitness but are not always practical for self defence, are often seen as uncool. MA like this are stuff like Kung Fu styles, Wushu, Aikido ect
MA proven in mma can also b for discipline asocial autists who just like to fight. MA like this in mma are boxing, wrestling, Muay Thai and BJJ and maybe at a push Judo.
Read book of the 5 rings.