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 No.300616[Last 50 Posts]

Were any of you bullied at school? If If so,share your experiences. How do you cope all these years later?

 No.300617

Why is middle school bullying so sexualized, like so much of it involves forcibly stripping boys of all their clothing or wedgies or swirlies.


Even a movie as innocent as Disney's Doug has Roger forcibly violently stripping him down to his underwear.

If any of that were done to succubi it would be sexual assaults'. But like even the most innocent kids media just laughs it off when it is done to boys.

Being physically beat up is bad enough. But there seems to be a sexual undercurrent to a lot of it.

 No.300662

>>300617
Probably has nothing to do with jews. That much I think we can be sure of.

 No.300816

I got bullied by literal NPC'S. Most of them are souless.

 No.300817

>>300617
The movies you watched were written and produced by Jews. They have absolutely no bearing on reality.

 No.300823

Not exactly bullied but always treated with disrespect by everybody

 No.300826


 No.300827

>>300817
No, it is only common in pop culture, because it is so common in real life. Boy on boy bullies take it beyond a physical beating to forced strippings.

 No.300829

>>300827
I get what you mean, sexual humiliation of men gets rather normalized in mainstream kike media, even rape of men often gets displayed as something funny.

The retard masses often think it's funny when a guy gets forced to suck dick or when he gets raped and even when it's real you still see normies crack jokes about it.

Bodyshaming men is socially accepted even in movies they joke about penis size and mens bedroom performance all the time but if you'd joke about a succubus's breast size or her hanging labia then you'd get labeled as bodyshamer and misogynistic. Madonna said last year that dick size matters and that bigger is better and when people made fun of her weird looks this year she accused them of bodyshaming and the media defended her stance without ever having called her out for her own bodyshaming. Even that pokimane streamer slut got away with insulting an underage viewers penis size on stream, imagine a grown guy would talk like this to an underage succubus on stream. There are so many men with perfectly normal penis sizes who suffer from mental stuff because of this penis size bullying and no one gives a fuck about it, people will just make fun of you for pointing it out "You must have a short penis then huehueheue" yet these ignorant cunts complain about beauty standards when people point out that fit is healthier than fat.

There's also a huge amount of people who just love to see men getting g humiliated and degraded and many of these people belong to the progressive reddit faggot crowd.

 No.300830

>>300829
>people will just make fun of you for pointing it out "You must have a short penis then huehueheue"

This is one of the main problems with pop culture, no one wants to point out anything because they don't want to look like uncool dorks. You could have a 5 mile long penis and if you'd point out that it's bad to bodyshame genitals some normie idiot would still take the opportunity to claim you have a short member and everyone would immediately stop listening to you and laugh at you while the faggot who insulted you goes home to secretly jerk off to sph cuckold videos.

 No.300831

I'd say I was bullied in a more passive way than anything. I always got the impression that people were only friends with me because they pitied, but then again I was one of those kids that went out of their way to embarrass themselves because I thought it would make me popular. I can to realize that everyone was laughing at me, not with me, yet I took whatever communication I got as genuine engagement.

 No.300833

On rare occasions I faced direct bullying such as getting physically abused or threatened but most of the time it was the typical subtle humiliating and disrespectful behavior.

I definitely used to do things for attention and behaved in various cringy ways but I'm also incredibly autistic and never had a chance to properly understand social concepts since I was isolated most of the time. My lack of self awareness mixed with my low confidence got me into a lot of bad stuff.

 No.300835

>>300830
It isn't exactly a new trend. If anything in older days there was even less sympathy for male victims, as they were the ones expected to toughen up.

 No.300836

I don't think that bullies sexually humiliating the weaker smaller scrawnier boys is really meant personally against them. It's more about showing off in front of succubi. It's not socially acceptable to just beat and strip succubi like a caveman. So you do it to the most feminine boys and treat him like a succubus by proxy. And so that way the bully advertises to succubi what he physically could do to her. As well as totally emasculating male competition down to the level of a succubus.

 No.300838

>>300829
No, actually Reddit called out how the graphic humiliation of boys is played out for laughs in pop media

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAskReddit/comments/ljs05s/why_is_child_abuse_on_boys_played_for_laughs_in/

 No.300839

>>300836
It's both, for once it's the most humiliating thing they could do and this gives the sadist a personal kick and it's also a display of dominance in front of succubi.

succubi often find these displays attractive because their chimpanzee monkey brains are usually wired towards primal sex stuff and it's really similar to watching chimpanzees in a zoo. When they see a man assert that kind of dominance over another man they can sense power and assertiveness which are attractive traits, they usually don't like sole violence but the social implications behind it because they constantly scan men for attractive traits.

I think this is the kind of reason why succubi are often the cause of trouble because they often accelerate this primal monkey behavior when they are around men.

 No.300840

>>300838
Reddits opinions on anything regarding the experience of men shouldn't be taken serious by anyone

 No.300841

>>300840
OK Reddit is wrong to compare boys and succubi, they have entirely different sexualities. While succubi at that age would be traumatic. Boys are just asexual clowns, and it isn't really sexual at all, just funny.

 No.300847

>>300838
>first comment on the thread
>MUH PATRIARCHY
I am going to fucking gag.

 No.300848

>>300847
It's terrible how they immediately resort to spin issues for their own agenda as soon as they can't be denied anymore.

 No.300855

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According to Jordan Peterson bullies such as Nelson Muntz play an important role in upholding the traditional order from deviancy. Without a Nelson Muntz to keep Springfield in check, the boys would just wander off deep into Milhouse's niceguy crab self-pity, and Martin Prince's insufferable over-intellectualizing ramblings. Bullies pull us back onto the path of normalacy for our own good, and let us know if we wander off too far there will be punishments.

 No.300856

>>300855
Nelson is not the arbiter of normalcy in the simpsons. Those would be the kids that laugh along when he bullies someone in public view. Nelson bullies people not because he has contempt for their lifestyle or personality but because he comes from a broken home and has no outlet for his own distress other than inflicting it on others. The bullies that come from well off homes, who bully people for being poor, uneducated, and weak are the ones that act out of societal demands.

 No.300858

>>300616
I got bullied for being weird and ugly. The internet helped me cope a lot.

 No.300860

>>300855
Confirmed that Jordan Peterson was a bully when he was in school.

 No.300862

>>300855
I agree with this to an extent as there is indeed bullying that serves a purpose especially during youth and its just about learning social norms. If the spergy adhd kid keeps annoying everyone or if some kid keeps acting like a nice guy fag until the boys get irritated then the others reacting to it negatively is just a part of a learning process.

If young people get sheltered from this then they are way more likely to be emotionally unstable later, these people are also often unable to handle any assertiveness and it just leads to bad stuff most of the time.

There is of course also really bad bullying which is sadistic and a lot of people get traumatized by this and thats the type of shit that is actually sick.

If people get bullied for things they can't change then that's just fucked up and serves no purpose.

 No.300864

>>300855
why are you wasting your time listening to that pseudointellectual idiot

 No.300865

>>300864
It's a balance. I read psuedointellectual idiots like Jordan Peterson, then I come here and read a few psuedointellectual idiotic posts, then…

 No.300866

>>300862
I think Nelson is a sadistic scary bully. He really beats the crap out of kids. He was legit terrifying in Season 1.

And then he put Milhouse in the hospital.

and speaking of forcibly stripping victims, Simpsons bullies did that all the time

 No.300868

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 No.300869

>>300866
Jordan Peterson is a boomer who doesn't know shit about Simpsons he should have chosen a different analogy. He probably watched a few episodes on TV but I don't think he knows anything in depth about how the characters are.

 No.300870

>>300869
Nelson being brutal and sadistic doesn't contradict what JP said

 No.300871


 No.300872

>>300617
That is not sexualization. It's humiliation, plain and simple. Stripping someone naked is a classic way to humiliate someone.

 No.300873

>>300872
Violently forcibly stripping someone to near nudity is inherently sexual

 No.300874

>>300616
Even though it really sucked at the time, I like to think of it in terms of some benefits like having a thicker skin, learning how to turn situations to my advantage in the heat of the moment, and seeing how lame and lowbrow the internal bully culture was. But it definitely amplified my manipulative tendences and definitely didn't do a lot for my autistic and asocial nature.

At least I can say I still can't really enjoy hurting people for the sake of hurting them. But it's not like I was abused the way it's glorified in the media. More of a pecking order thing I never really understood or cared to get out of at the time that wound up making me an easy default target until later on when I learned I could play the game better than that.

 No.300875

I got bullied really hard in 1st grade. Its crazy the whole world thinks of 5-6 year olds as innocent little angels, but that is when I got the worst of the bullying.

I was bullied on 3 levels. 1st was the mob bullying and teasing by the entire class, which treated me as the weirdo freak.

then the bullying by the tough strong kids

and then the weirdo psycho kids.

normie, chad, psycho, I got the whole trifecta of bullying from everyone.

i got sucker punched in the school yard once.

i fought two weirdos, one in the bathroom, pulling his hair, one right at the desk in front of the whole class. but it aint like the films. putting up your dukes and fist fighting, to what I consider a draw, didn't win anyone's respect.

If there was any empiricism in me, that would have been my education in the Hobbesian nature of humanity even as saplings. But I still clung to a naive idealism in the face of reality.

For a long time I did hold a grude that I got stuck with especially mean 6 year olds. But I realize even when I met whole new groups of kids, I would quickly make myself an outcast again.

But in a way it comforts me and frees me of regrets. If 5 year olds could detect I was such an autistic freak, it's no wonder where I'm in my 30s.

they were just little wolf cubs tearing apart the runt of the litter who would bring the whole pack down. I mean I wasn't even short at that time, I'm now after puberty. But back then being tall sucked, always being in the back of the line. Not even seen on picture day. I told my bully "I'm taller than you", and he just said so?

 No.300876

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 No.300877

>>300876
so succubus on boy physical bullying does happen?

 No.300878

>>300877
What normalfag life under a rock are you living that you need to verify this fact

 No.300879

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Yes and they always get away with it.

 No.300880

eurofag here, i experienced the worst stuff in elementary because of retard refugees and ghetto immigrants who for some reason would always attack the native kids. I saw quite some violence and also have been attacked myself, sometimes theyd suddenly do things like kick you in the back or try to mug you or just press and threaten you, some immigrant kid even pushed me down some stairs in school for no reason just because of some monkey impulse. there were always fights and just overall it was aggressive, it was pure low iq uncivilized behavior.

I guess this is quite normal for euro schools near or in cities, it's just less peaceful because there's more ghetto immigrants. It was just an everyday thing that some sandniggers might do violent shit for no reason, no matter if it was in school or in town you were never save from these uncivilized goatfuckers.

All this violence shit has traumatized me, I wish I grew up in a rural area in a school full of natives and not in this shitty town full of immigrant ghettos.

 No.300881

>>300880
That's just because you don't have to deal with the Blacks. Here Muslims just get beat up and have their taxis and stores robbed by the Blacks.

 No.300886

>>300855
I was mainly bullied for my height tought, I dont even liked Anime.

 No.300887

>>300886
your height deviated from the norm, so it still fits

 No.300888

IS what Jim did to Dwight, considered bullying?

 No.300889

>>300868
Bullies like nelson set a limit to embarrassing cringe nerd behavior so he is a hero in my book.

 No.300890

>>300879
Context? Why did the other guy kick him towards the end?

 No.300891

>>300876
That little kid likely did something wrong.

 No.300898

>>300616
Many times I bullied back. Not toughly enough, from that POV, but everything was due to my private intolerance to certain situations they put me into, which eventually disappeared.

The very trouble was inside me, my unavoidable way of feeling life. Only after certain critical experiences (where I also used the same tactic in order to avert the shame accumulating inside me) my subconscious freed me from that stupid torment. No movies nor life lessons, as far as I can see, could have released me from that psychosis. In later years I find myself now just being an outcast whom psychos and narcissists irritate, then I learn the paterns, avoid falling again and then they get irritated back. The same philosophy is behind, I just lament not having been hardwired without so much derangement that would make my teen years so sensitive.

But I find that many other people in my situations would have fallen totally against them, cucked and deceived, yet I only feel a disgusted surprise about how much cucked the world is. I might share some stories of these via greentext, the world is in humilliation, normies live under misery mindsets where they behave even worse than animals at their own expense and they even sincerely seem to think that we are not adapted or misfortunate for not falling for these social schemes of asslickery and selfdeprecation. And they will get angry with you for not adding yourself to their misery cycles.

Pathetic things I did, pathetic things I lived, pathetic people and situations I've seen. We must incitate young wizars to get ready against idiots, anyway.

 No.300900

>>300855
>unironically thinking that Milhouses would overrun the world
>ignoring that is normalcy who rises and supports bullies and psychopaths with number force and sheer submissive cattle idiocy

Muntz is a retard who deserves deridement and violence until going crazy and you are better offed, you only lack lick Lisa's shoes, who falls for the bully like a total normie leftie delusional poser she is in this process in order to fulfill your imbecile normie scheme and declare.

Whenever I managed against bullies in my life felt fucking glorious and if you ever dared to put yourself in some worth about it then you'd know who really live self-pitying theirselves for the sake of manipulating others, who unavoidably fall for their both deceit and threats like worthless cattle. My sincere sorrow for how many things prevent me from shooting your head to end your misery.

>back the path of normalcy for our own good


Mods must have abandoned this place at last. Myabe they found their motivation in life or something.

Jordan Peterson! Huh! Talk me about novices and small talkers!

 No.300902

> shooting your head to end your misery
>a retard who deserves deridement and violence until going crazy and you are better offed, you only lack lick Lisa's shoes, who falls for the bully like a total normie leftie delusional poser she is in this process in order to fulfill your imbecile normie scheme and declare.

don't cut yourself with that edge. Clearly you have some traumas you need to heal, the bullying REALLY did a number on you. good luck.

 No.300903

>>300900
Muntz got what was coming to him

 No.300904

>>300889
Nelson sexually assaulted those nerds. If beating a succubus and tearing off all her clothing is sexual assault on a succubus, then the same act is on a boy.

 No.300905

>>300904
>Nelson sexually assaulted those nerd
You clearly have no clue and are ignorant of what a sexual assault is. Pick up a dictionary before using terms you don't know anything about.

 No.300906

>>300905
My definition is if the act counts on succubi it counts on boys.

and that is what you would be charged with if you went out and beat the shit out of a succubus, and pulled off all her clothing down to her underwear.

 No.300907

>>300889
Bullies regulate the weak nerd men.
The succubi provide pussy to regulate the bullies.
The school shooter regulates the bully/succubi dynamic of it breaks down.
The school shooter is regulated by the media.
Everything is actually part of a delicate ecosystem
Hello I am Jordan Peterson
And tomorrow we discuss the threat of anal rape keeps your pets from demanding too much dinner

 No.300908

>>300904
Makes sense, I think more people would be shocked by a female getting stripped involuntary than when it was a man, some might even find it funny if it's the latter. I wanna know where this selective empathy comes from, I don't believe these reddit cucks because "the patriarchy" is not who writes all these movies, that's the reddit types themselves, also all these directors like Tarantino are the same type of spirit cucking art fags.

In that tarantino movie hateful eight is a scene in which an old confederate guy is forced to suck Samuel Jacksons dick in order to get a drink in the cold snow and theres dialogue about bbc and it overall just gets portrayed as something very funny and things like that just show us that media indeed accelerates this.

 No.300909

>>300906
That's not what sexual assault means. Read a book before talking about topics you have no knowledge of. It's really embarrassing to read you.

 No.300910

>>300907
Back to 4chan.
>>300908
Are you seriously surprised females get more pity than men. Did you just discover the real world or are you a teenager?

 No.300911

>>300908
bullying is patriarchy, because while the victims are male, so are the perps. succubi aren't involved in it.

and the bully lives up to the ideal of traditional macho masculinity, asserting masculine alpha dominance. he enforces the rules of masculinity and the traditional order as jordan peterson would say. any deviancy from the ideal male norm is ruthlessly punished.

weakness being the only sin for males, is another patriarchal Nietzschean ideal. that is why even though the bully is the unprovoked aggressor, it is the victim who is at fault by male standards.

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 No.300914

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>>300856
>Nelson bullies people not because he has contempt for their lifestyle or personality but because he comes from a broken home and has no outlet for his own distress other than inflicting it on others.
Just like the writers intended

 No.300915

>>300913
yeah because a kid who hasn't even gone through puberty slapping another kids butt is the same as a grown man smacking the butt of a succubus in public.
not only you don't know what sexual assault is, you're incapable of arguing.

 No.300916

>>300856
You're missing the point here, Nelson still bullies the school oddballs because of their behaviour.

 No.300917

>>300916
>Nelson still bullies the school oddballs because of their behaviour.
Were the people involved in the production of The Simpsons victim blaming?

 No.300918

>>300907
Here is a music video that conveys the idea that bullies are the predators of the HS ecosystem that keeps the weirdness from spiraling out of control. And while the wolf might seem mean to the slaughtered sheep, it has its role in preventing overpopulation.

Bullies are the reality principle. And without bullies, geeks and weirdos would be able to live entirely in fantasy.

 No.300919

>>300907
>>300855
that quote can't be real

 No.300920

>>300918
>Here is a music video
>Bullies are the reality principle
I like how you've played with these contradictory motifs in your work

 No.300921

>>300917
>Were the people involved in the production of The Simpsons victim blaming?
No, they were obviously writing comedy.

 No.300922

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>>300919
Lisa is to Nelson what Anastasia is to Christian Grey, and that says a lot about society dontchu think?

 No.300923

>>300902
>don't cut yourself with that edge
Already did. So, I do have a trauma for considering a criminal to receive similar treat, do I? Whatever you normals looking inside this imageboard is still a mistery for us.

Go ahead, there's an entire world of narcissist and psychotic boots for you to lick outside there and then say that "you are socially enabled" while doing so and because of doing so.

 No.300924

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 No.300926

>>300925
Yeah, "go take your meds, schizo". Same crap as usual, it's not that hard to smell the trail of these comments.

really, you need to get out of this place. It's just not made for you, don't you see?

 No.300928

>>300927
>justifying bullying
>maybe even denying neurotypical schemes
>minimizing a problem until gets trapped in it personally
>"others should seek treatment, not me"

In healthy imageboards, actually thought for us you'd pobly get instabanned. But we can't help just cope with this trolling

 No.300929

>>300923
>Already did. So, I do have a trauma for considering a criminal to receive similar treat, do I? Whatever you normals looking inside this imageboard is still a mistery for us.
Supposedly this is part of social regulation. All the appeals to cartoons and movies are interesting, as it indicates the same mechanism underlies the appeals made to other myths and stories commonly invoked on wizchan (as you're currently encountering with the other poster)

 No.300930

>>300929
It's mods fault, these things here are totally under mods consent. Anyway, let him have the cope, it could actually be trying to regulate this place in some way or another (and I blame whoever falls for the shame tactics too)

Oh, if this was just like the old 4chan in SOME aspects, these outsiders just couldn't help theirselves about it.

 No.300932

>>300930
>Anyway, let him have the cope, it could actually be trying to regulate this place in some way or another
You can test this idea by probing and examining the response, you will quickly uncover the structural composition of the story they tell themselves

>these things here are totally under mods consent.

If that's the case then it sucks for the people who want to have an unmediated and authentic interaction, but can you see the way that would lend you power as well?

 No.300933

>>300900
seek professional help ASAP. You're a danger to yourself and other's lives. Think about your family.

 No.300934

>>300933
I am now at that point where annoyance mixes with dissidia.

u_u

 No.300935

Tell us a thing OP. What's the main feel you wish to cope against? Misery due to lack of vengeance?

 No.300936

>>300935
My fights are not remembered as any special thing, rather than a psychotic need of fighting, mostly. It was later as an adult where this behaviour turned into passive rejection under a layer of silence, where it actually did something against falling for manipulative types.

 No.300939

>>300936
How come this wiz isn't being recommended help when he's clearly suffering from trauma?

 No.300964

>>300939
Well he could just go and tell that he has an issue by telling how he believes that justifying animalistic social dynamics is allright while going after others to tell them they are insane for not thinking so, probably due to sadomasochistic mindset from an awful childhood who marked him, but that's not his issue.
So what could he say?

 No.300969

>>300964
I'm not familiar with the specifics of his case but that's a remarkable concession given the (relatively low) threshold for recommending help earlier in this thread. Do you have any thoughts on that?

 No.300971

>>300939
if the world is objectively against you, there isn't much a psych can do for you. ultimately you have to interact with normies on your own. whatever the psych tells you, is not much more useful than a self-help book

 No.300983

If the role of bully is just to act as an enforcer, then he should only target the extroverted geeks who flaunt their weirdness and leave the shy quiet introverts alone. But if anything the shy ones get it worse than the lolcows.

Although I suppose if his role is to punish any deviance from the norm. then shyness and quietness is a deviance.

 No.300984

They make Mean Gurl bullying out to be this vicious thing. So much more psychologically sinister than straight forward male bullying. Like 'oh no I said nice sweater, but I actually think its vomitrocious'. They call that bullying? We autists wouldn't even notice that. I would just say thank you, but I'm volcel.

Nothing compared to the brutal beatdowns of boys.

 No.300989

>>300984
succubi are far more vicious. They spread rumors, degrade each other, and actively sabotage others. Most male bullies just want to beat you up or get you pissed off, not invade your psyche.

 No.300996

>>300991
succubi can be extremely vicious towards crabs. Like this Dutch succubus pretended to like and date a crab for an entire week. Imagine what it did to his self-esteem to find out she had only done it as a joke. This was much worse for him, than just having the shit beat out of him. This traumatized him so he had to go into crab rehab.

https://archive.is/UfwM0

"Needless to say, my dating life didn’t go too well either — starting, actually, with my first date ever. I was 12 years old and had just met a succubus I really liked. She asked me out to the club, where we danced awkwardly and did all the things teens normally would do. Then she confessed her feelings and told me she liked me. I was so excited: A succubus I liked liked me back! Someone at all liked me back!
We dated for the next week. It might have been the best week of my life. She paid attention to me. Other people paid attention to me. Things were looking good for a change.
But at the end of that week, her friends broke the news to me: She’d been dared to do it, and the whole thing was a prank. I get it now, peer pressure can make people do stupid things, and it’s just kids doing things kids do, but it hurt. And it stuck with me."

 No.300997

>>300996
succubi are bad if you let them be.

 No.300998

Reddit actually defended succubi throwing food at Bryan, as not bullying but just setting boundaries.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1002taj/alleged_murderer_bryan_kohberger_was_not_bullied/

Next they will say it is self-defense for stacies to pre-emptively bully weirdo males, so they never develop the self-confidence to become a threat.

> Sarah Healey, who went to Pleasant Valley High School with Kohberger, said he was shy and kept to himself and a small group of friends, but some of their classmates – especially succubi – mocked Kohberger and threw things at him.

 No.301000

>>300996

This is some of the worst trolling, when succubi pretend to like some poor dude just use him as laughingstock for themselves and their friends.

 No.301002

>>300999
He's not wrong though and reddit is also really weird towards men

 No.301003

>>301000
the only self-defense is to say you are volcel

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>>300860
More a philosophical Aristotle to the Bully King, than a bully himself

 No.301010

>>300855
>neglected, thankfully, by his thoughtless slut of a mother
WTF? I like Jordan Peterson now, I'm going to clean my room right now!

 No.301011

>>301010
>>301010
He says thankfully, because Nelson's mom is of such poor moral character, that if she tried to mother him it would only make things worse. Better to have a 0 than a -.

 No.301012

Simpsonsposter: The Next Generation
>-Embeds instead of pictures
>-Watches video essays about a zombified cartoon
>-Doesn't say racy things about the admins
>-Enjoys celebrity cameos
>-Has never seen a Virgin9000

 No.301013

>>300935
OP here. I mainly have a lot of anger and fustration that was never released. If only I was strong enough to get my revenge.

 No.302499

>>300871
What a blackpilling episode, holy fuck. Foids need to be shot.

 No.302501

>>300902
Back to reddit, you cuckold faggot.

 No.302503

>>300998
lol so it was justified as always.

 No.302504

>>302503
throwing food makes them the aggressor

 No.302550

Never physical violence against me thank god but a lot of verbal and emotional bullying which was pretty rough.
>How do you cope all these years later?
Not great but I'm holding up

 No.302753

>>302504
That's what I meant.

 No.306399

Scrawny boys being bullied, and forced to wear panties against their will, is so common a whole crime episode was about it

https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Ronald_James_Underwood

> He only had one best friend at school named Riley Wilson, who had a 4.0 GPA and was also bullied for being "a nerd". One day, on May 2009, Wilson was ambushed by several jocks in the gym lockers, being forced to wear nothing but succubi's underwear and wander around the school in it. Dozens of students had been texted by the jocks and told them to come outside of the gym locker, and there, they all laughed at Wilson as he made his way past them. Underwood was among the students, but he was unable to intervene, likely out of fear of being humiliated himself. Several teachers were also present at the scene, but their response to the incident was inadequate and the jocks were let off the hook.

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 No.306437

>>306399
This is fiction from a tv show it seems?

 No.306455

>>302550
yeah a lot of bullying has left me overly suspicious of people and their intentions when approaching me. It's just made me further retreat into my introvert shell.

 No.310569

zoomers have it easy will all bullying online and allegorical now

 No.310571

>>310569
Not sure about that.Nowadays that kinda shit never goes away

 No.310572


 No.310617

The Boy's Code.

Gotta be tough, stiff upper lip, endure it all. Don't cry or snitch or run away. Just take it and prove you're man. And whats the reward for it? No one respects you for that.

Basically suffer alone in silence and don't make it someone else's problem. Convenient for everyone else except you.

 No.310618

>>310617
>Basically suffer alone in silence and don't make it someone else's problem. Convenient for everyone else except you.
It's convenient chiefly for me. Involving others in my problems has never failed to blow up in my face. Better to just do it all alone.

 No.310619

>>310569
>>310571
Zoomers will secretly record you taking a shit and post it on snapchat for everyone to laugh at until you kill yourself. Getting bullied nowadays can be worse because young people record and share everything. Theres many guys who killed themselves after videos of their humilation got shared and theres even plenty succubi who end up doing the same because they got recorded while getting fucked at a party.

You really wouldn't want to be the kid who spergs out or gets completely humiliated on video.

 No.310620

>>310619
just log off lol

 No.310621

>>310620
logging off doesn't delete the video of someone getting their lights knocked out by the local bully.

 No.310622

>>310621
> getting their lights knocked out by the local bully.

if zoomers still do that, that's the real problem, same as the 1950s

 No.310623

>>310622
The point is that now people who weren't even there will know about it. And it spreads faster and farther than any gossip ever did.

 No.310624

>>310623
getting beat up is bad because the punches hurt.

 No.310625

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>>310624
I'm gonna stop replying now.

 No.310629

>>300616
I was yes.
There is only one hope - blood redemption.
Bullies all have nice lives now, lots to lose you know ;)

 No.310631

>>300617
> If any of that were done to succubi it would be sexual assaults'. But like even the most innocent kids media just laughs it off when it is done to boys.

I'd consult parents for a lawyer, that shit nowdays could be qualified as sexual assault no matter whom it happens to and get you on the sexual offenders list for life. Worth it to ruin future of your bully over a stupid gig like that. Always lawyer up, always, always, always. Never stop until your opponent's life is totally destroyed

 No.310632

>>300876
"You a succubus or something, the fuck you wailing?"
"I understood, I apologize"
"The fuck you crying, you a succubus?"
"No"
*smacks him in the mouth*
"MYEAARGHHHHHHAAAARGHHHHH"
"Faggot guy yo, get up. She just slapped you on the cheek and you are wailing like a motherfucker"
"Hey booyyy, who is the bitch?"
"Not you, not you."
"Her?"
"No, not her, not her"
"Who is then?"
"Nobody"
[unintelligable screeching from fatty]
"Who's the whore?"
"No, no…"
*smacks him in the head*
"BLARGHHHHH"
*kicks him*

So it seems like the fatty called one of those succubi cunts or bitches and this is what happened.

What do you call a homosexual on roller blades?
ROLAIDS

 No.310633

>>300879
This is how fetishes are made.
This guy is done for. RIP.
His brain will be fried from endless masturbation to this memory.

 No.310667

You know, if this was still the 00s, there'd be tons of stories and posts, theories, constructions, etc. Instead we get zoomers idolizing their tormentors.

 No.311192

>>310667
>You know, if this was still the 00s, there'd be tons of stories and posts, theories, constructions, etc. Instead we get zoomers idolizing their tormentors.

Correct. However, that's because the internet has allowed people to work out how the world really works. Bullied kids don't become rich and get the succubus. Bullies aren't insecure and scared people who will end up as failures - bullies are usually extremely confident and bully to increase their social status, show power, and to punish socially abnormal behaviour.

Formerly bullied kids have realised they have been lied to and that 'being yourself' and 'being kind' will just make society/men/succubi and everyone see you as weak.

As a society, it is not acceptable to state that ultimately what people want/admire/envy is really POWER. Our cultural suppression of explicit desire for power makes it come out in weird and contorted ways and makes our society tell lies to losers.

 No.311193

>>310667
The 00s happened and the Internet was more brutal. It only became about bitching and crying and safe spaces with zoomers and normals.

 No.311235

>>300879
everyone would do well watch this and remember that we are always told who is the more compassionate gender, that succubi need to be protected from boys etc. this whole world is a playground for the children of the satan.

you'll find normal apologetics, oh they're only young. well what is it, old enough to decide gender reaffirming surgery, but not old enough to know that mercilessly bullying a small boy that isn't the size of any of the succubi bullying him, is an evil and cruel thing to do. normal people are insanely cruel, i could tell stories here that would make you shiver at profound abuse toward disabled people that can't even look after themselves, the kind of thing you would think is in some third-world backwater hole where there is no society and no morality.

bullying is a favorite past-time of succubi, they don't have an objective morality, it is decided for them by the people and culture around them, they are capable of the most evil acts, and modern scientific literature is 100% in support of all of this, it's demonstrated and known. this is why clown-world makes such a big show about virtue signalling, because these people are straight up evil and hearts of pure malice and self-centeredness, they hyper-compensate trying to do all the superficial things that 'show' they're good people, that is what evil people do. good people are concerned with how they behave in the world and how they treat others, being good and treating people how you would wish to be treated.

>being good and treating people how you would wish to be treated.

no normal does this, not one of them, because wizards exist at all, because the world is in the state it is. the good people lower their own average and quality of life closer to the people they are trying to help, and that is fair distribution of the toll of suffering on this realm, normals do the opposite and make more suffering onto others for their increased pleasure.

when i think of many normals, what i picture is a fiend plugged into a bliss machine, and they're furiously mashing the button to pleasure themselves, all the while knowing that each time they press that button they're killing little children. that is literally what a normal person is in this day and age, because they have such surplus resources and practically none give to charity to help anyone, it's always some tax offset. normal people could fix the world, they don't want to though, they just want to mash their pleasure button while killing babies as the price. they literally do this, choosing to drink starbucks $13 for a coffee each day but no money to charity to help the extreme suffering and unimaginable pain of hundreds of people. they can do this easily, give to a charity instead, but no they give themselves pleasure and kill babies and inflict insane pain and dont care. they're sociopaths to the very core, rotten, and God will judge them all. i treat them the way i would like to be treated, because i'm only a man, not God like they think they are in a place to judge everyone. no i treat people well, i'm honest and call it how i see it, and they will never corrupt me. i give a lot to charity even though i'm in poverty myself, and i do what i know is right, not what is easy and comfortable and pleasurable.

God will judge all of you, i won't. i will continue to be good to you while you denigrate and abuse people like me because its funny and you can, just the same as those normal people in the video. thanks normal people.

 No.311244

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When I was in primary school, I would get bullied because I was a chubby kid that had a short fuse. That mostly stopped by the time I got to Secondary school. In the first half of secondary school, I was bullied because I was a kid that couldn't really fit in with any group. I didn't fit in with the chavvy kids, I didn't fit in with the nerds, I didn't fit in sporty kids, I had no real group, and I was still relatively chubby. succubi would ask me out and then whenever I showed them any attention they would begin to make fun of me. In the Second half of Secondary school, I developed Ulcerative Colitis so I had to be out of class for half a school year, but because I still had to go to school, most of my time was spent in the bathrooms. I eventually developed a reputation as the weird guy that hung out in the toilets. Some of the teachers at my school didn't believe that I had these issues, so they would force me into class. When I mentioned to my parents that I had suicidal thoughts, my mum tried to talk to the headteacher about it, but the headteacher (also a succubus) responded by waving her hand in my mum's face and saying "perhaps your son is just autistic". After my health issues stopped, I still kept my reputation as the weird guy in the toilets, but dudes stopped bullying me less. Most of the bullying that I received came from succubi. They would repeat the shtick where they would pretend to ask me out and whatnot and then make fun of me when I reciprocated, but because by that point I knew it was a trick, I ignored them. This just prompted them to follow me around the school and yell my name, and when I looked back they would laugh. When I would go back to whatever I was going they would start talking about me in an effort to make me mad. I never really showed any reaction to it though. Other succubi would try and talk to me in a nice way, but I could tell that it wasn't genuine, it was just because they saw me as some sort of curiosity, like those freak shows. And other times they would just be plain rude to me, like they would say that my face made them sick. We had to get into lines on the way to our GCSEs (so we knew where to sit in the exam hall) and I asked a succubus (politely, I should add) in the line that I was meant to be in what her seat number was so I could check that I was in the right space, she responded by looking at me, scowling without saying anything and going back to talking to her friend.Eventually the bullying stopped, when this one guy in my class kept making fun of me, he saw me getting mad and then said that if I was mad we should fight, so I decked him in the face and busted his lip. That was the first time I had ever fought someone. The teachers thought I was the bad guy but people at my high school began to respect me. College was mostly empty of any bullying, I didn't really try to make friends, I just turned up, did my work and then went home. Some of the succubi that talked to me in high school made attempts to talk to me again, but I would just walk away. A few times some succubi from my high school tried to yell my name but I never reacted so they stopped. There's probably incidents that I've forgotten about, but needless to say I entered adulthood with a distrust of succubi.

 No.311247

>>311245
stinkubi would try to poke my asshole through my shorts so i always wore pants in the summer and long sleeve shirt otherwise they would twist my arm until it's red or twist my nipples

 No.311248

>>311247
Why didn't you fight back?!?!?!?!?!?!?

 No.311257

>>311248
He's clearly lying with this point.

 No.311259

>>300996
>Like many troubled kids, Samuel, a 21-year-old media student from the Netherlands, is convinced he wouldn’t be here today had he continued down the path he was on as a teenager. “A few random miracles happened that led me to finding support,” he tells me. “That helped me steer clear of any radical actions I might’ve taken back then.”

>He’s not talking about drug or alcohol addiction, though. Nor is he referring to a behavioral disorder. Instead, he checked himself into rehab in 2016 for his mindset. “I was a crab — or at least I identified as one,” he explains.


That is an absolutely psychotic beginning to an article. I tried to read it but it was too cringe worthy to get through.

This bizarre demonization of the virgin into the catchall problem of society is insane.

 No.311260

>>311257
I believe him. Similar things happened to me.

 No.311268

>>311259
not even real. 15min of fame, the guy would have been total normal and the crab part is nonsense for an interview. it does make for a good story though and to create a narrative to further demonize the people holding the whole system up. they are actively destabilizing society and they know exactly how to do it, and what they're doing. articles like this are all part of it, and tend to have a cyan-blue hue influencing their overall tone.

 No.311394

>>300616
I was an ugly autistic kid with red hair and an annoying voice. Everyone hated me. I was never physically assaulted, but people would constantly talk shit about me.

 No.311646

>>311590
hahahaha oh wow

 No.311680

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/24/playground-bullies-do-prosper-and-go-on-to-earn-more-in-middle-age

Just thought I'd leave this here. Reality is a harsh mistress. Doubt anyone here is surprised though. Bullies either end up getting shot or they end up as your boss. More the latter than the former though.

 No.311681

>>311680
Fake article. You can easily check up on all your high school bullies and see they are low class wageslaves and popular succubi are fat living in trailers

 No.311682

>>311681
i checked and they're all finance bros making six figs and bitches in every photo. they look happy and society has given them everything they want.

 No.311683

>>311682
Everything besides a soul and morals I suppose.

 No.311684

>>311683
and that's worth fuck all since there is no god and nothing matters and everyone dies eventually, but the difference is they live a full life with everything it has to offer and you lived like a cockroach underneath their feet.

 No.311687

Only in elementary school.
It was a very meaningful period of about 3 years in elementary school; immediately after diagnosis with Type 1 diabetes, when I had to start taking injections every single day or die. At that point the female half of the class decided to label me as a diseased person and engaged in frequent physical violence against me on a daily basis for about 3 years.
The resolution came when boys started attempting likewise, around fourth grade. No longer constrained by the rules of teacher favoritism and clear yard supervisor favoritism, the bullying quickly became mutual violence and therefore resolved itself.

A particularly stupid person once thought he was clever in pointing out that the schoolgirls were schoolgirls and therefore should not be judged as adult succubi. This is idiotic since the leadership of adult female teachers, yard supervisors and parents were the entire reason the situation ever developed and ultimately I do blame the teachers who chose to pamper their little demons for the fact that I had to split Stephen's face against the blacktop three years down the line from that first kindergarten incident.

 No.311953

I wish bullying had made me drop out of school in 1st grade

 No.311954

I did get bullied and my dad always gave the worst advice when it came to standing up for myself which was always to ask them to stop or go to the teacher as if I would learn how to properly handle bullying that way lol.

I got bullied by people even in my adult years because I don't know how to stand up for myself without having a major sperg out. Sometimes I have memories of how I got treated like a faggot and it makes me angry but I try to work on myself. It doesn't really feel like I will ever recover from some things though.

 No.311955

>>311954
my dad told me to fight back, and i got them to a draw, and just got screamed at by the teacher, who even told me not to say hi to her next year. Or i can still remember the lunch monitor shouting FIGHTING???? and this was all at the tender age of 6. And it didn't win any peers respect.

so i'd rather just be a snitch than a man, there's no prize for that.

 No.311957

>>311680
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3177486/Child-bullies-sexier-popular-dates-victims-grow-new-research-suggests.html
>Child bullies are sexier, more popular and have more dates than their victims when they grow up, new Canadian research suggests

>The two Canadian studies may go some way to explaining why celebrity bullies like Gordon Ramsay are a hit with succubi - even though they have explosive tempers.


>Simon Fraser University criminologist Jennifer Wong surveyed 135 teenagers from a high school in Vancouver with a questionnaire about bullying. The pupils were asked how often they were hit, kicked or shoved and from that they were divided into categories; bully, bystander, victim or victim-bully. The results showed that bullies, who accounted for around 11 per cent of the group, scored highest when it came to social status and self-esteem. They also came lowest when it came to depression.


https://www.time.com/96848/bullying-can-make-a-bully-healthier/
>Bullying is good for your health

>Copeland and his colleagues took advantage of a database involving 1420 children who were followed from the age of 9 to 21, and who were tested at nine different times during that period. They were asked about their bullying experiences, and researchers took their blood to measure things like C-reactive protein (CRP), a marker for inflammation that is an important for predictor of heart disease, among other ailments. Victims of bullying showed the greatest increases in their CRP levels, compared to where they started, which wasn’t surprising, since inflammation can spike due to stress, anxiety, and lack of sleep—all of which bullying victims experience. The more often victims were bullied, the more their CRP levels rose. But the real shocker came when the scientists analyzed the CRP levels of the bullies. Their inflammation rates were lower even than those children who had never reported being bullied or being a bully. Bullying seemed to protect the aggressors from inflammatory diseases. “We found that the enhanced social status that came along with being a bully did seem to advantage them over time,” says Copeland. “That finding more than anything else surprised us.”

 No.311959

>>311957
Most studies also show bullying is done because of insecurity, bad parenthood, and poor/low living standards.

 No.311960

i was bullied by my older brother but there was something like stockholm syndrome since he was also my friend and we played games together. was only in public or in front of ppl at school, i guess because i wasnt cool and he did not want to be associated with me. very lame regardless

 No.311968

>>311957
>Bullying is good for your health

Not related to that. But yeah I guess the bullies diagnosed aspergers in my life from the start, while the adults in my life just left me kept drifting on with benign neglect as "just shy". Bullies are the best doctors in that sense. If only teachers, parents, adults were as smart as 6 year old peers.

Now I can't function at all, because no adult identified early on that being weird is a serious mental disorder.

 No.311970

My family traumatized me worse than any playground teasing could do tbh.

 No.311971

>>311970
what did they do to you?

 No.312044

Some despicable normalniggers always asked me sexual questions and making fun of me for being a virgin and just throwing things at me or coming up to me and yelling really loud

 No.312061

>>311957
its an evolutionary strategy to get the pick of the litter while in peak fertility. Disruptive kids should be kicked out of schools altogether or segregated into shithead blocks.

 No.312063

>>312061
its an evolutionary strategy to drive out the runt of the litter, from being a drag on the pack. lion cubs try to chase their own misfit siblings way

 No.312064

>>312063
No, because in a school environment you have kids from different genetic backgrounds competing over a pool of succubi. The same basic logic holds, but I think it comes into its own because testosterone peaks. We should let parents intervene and beat the shit out of offenders.

 No.312065

>>312064
Yeah but if we're gonna evopsych everything, and say we still operate like savannah tribes, then in that context you would never be around children of a rival tribe. so your instinct to kick out the runts is still going to kick in.

 No.312066

>>312064
I'm not going to deny that what you refer to is one type of bullying. The alphas bully the betas to establish dominance and be attractive. Yeah that's real.

I'm talking about another type of bullying, where essentially the entire class bullies the omega. Alphas, betas, succubi all together. And that is more in the spirit of preserving the health of the tribe from the unfit.

 No.312073

Yes I was bullied through out most of school, it was mostly other boys but sometimes succubi. Most of the time it was because they had crushes on me and didn’t know how to express it and sometimes because they were jealous. Usually I’d help people cheat when it got bad enough to bother me so I’d have people to protect me.

I cope by recognizing they were the dysfunctional ones and I never would have willingly exposed myself to social situations without their bullying, so in the long term it’s helped me grow as a person. I don’t forgive them though and if the situation ever presented itself where I could hurt them I would take it.

 No.312074

>>312073
succubi bully you because they like you is just a misandrist myth to justify female on male domestic abuse

 No.312075

>>312074
It’s not as common as it’s made out to be, but it wasn’t just the succubi. One of my male bullies told me I was handsome when we were alone, it was very strange and I suspect he thought he could pressure me into being a faggot

 No.312076

>>312075
yeah jocks and frats do the prison rape thing in a nongay way to establish dominance, just a warm up for their hetero fucking of stacy

 No.312079

To be honest I have little to no sympathy for anyone whose experience of bullying began in or was confined to high school, rather than your formative years. Accounts of HS "bullying" often involve little more than infrequent standup fights. That's generally justifiable conflict with the sole exception of group stratifications centered on violence that began long before HS. HS bullying is also usually male-male conflict in which you have opportunities that you do not get in the normal flow of female-teacher-approved and often teacher-initiated bullying from elementary.

 No.312080

>>312079
You're dumb.

The bullying I received in high school was instigated and encouraged by my female teachers, to the point that they would single me out and force me to work alone during group assignments and force me in humiliation to present in front of the class alone.

 No.312084

>>312079
probably a crab competing with a jock over a succubus

 No.312085

>>312076
>nongay
kek

 No.312090

Yeah sometimes bullying does escalate all the way to rape. Its just taking the logic of bullying, reducing scrawny boys to the role of a bitch, to its final conclusion. These are the kinds of chads fucking cheerleaders though. They are just showing their male competition is so beat they can treat them like succubi too.

 No.312091

>>312090
>These are the kinds of chads fucking cheerleaders though
Yeah in the anus and giving them rimjobs too, fags in denial.

 No.312094

>>312080
I doubt that this pattern began in high school or that it ended with high school or that it reached an apex inside of high school. And if none of those things are the case there is no sense in identifying it with high school specifically.

 No.312095

>>312091
Yeah the most dominant men love anal sex, causing intense pain for her, while maximizing his own pleasure, summarizes what sex is for him. The fact that succubi hate to do it, and have to be pushed into it just makes alphas love it more.

 No.312105

I was always somewhat friendly in school and thought I had a lot of friends but looking back at it in retrospective I was bullied alot and kept around as the "weird" kid of any social group. Never any physical bullying but got made fun of alot of taken advantage. The only people who outright were jerks to be were the Asian kids especially the Japanese succubi which made me dispise them. Even in the weird kids group ever school has I was the odd one out. Never bothered me, and I'm pretty sure I'm the only virgin left from my class, so thats neat.

 No.312106

>>300616
Yes but not severely. Still destroyed me mentally, I guess I'm just weak.

 No.312107

>>311245
A few succubi gave me fake numbers in the past at school then would make fun of me for writing them down after they told me and spread rumors.

 No.312110

>>312107
tbh I think part of the reason I became volcel in Middle School was so I could enjoy the ego trip of all the stacies seeming to like me, without ever having to put it to the test, and feeling like I rejected them. And they like a boy they can aggressively flirt with without ever being asked to put out.

 No.312111

>>312110
I came to a similar conclusion by the time I got to high school but didn't go full vol until after I dropped out and went to technical school.been happier ever sence too.

 No.312171

>>312066
>I'm talking about another type of bullying, where essentially the entire class bullies the omega. Alphas, betas, succubi all together. And that is more in the spirit of preserving the health of the tribe from the unfit.

The target of this are usually spergs and autists who ruin the social dynamic within the group. I can't even blame others for that as they just don't want a sperg being a buzzkill in their group. This type of bulllying also can be avoided to an extent by staying away from social gatherings and groups if youre just unfit for it.

My parents sent me to basketball training when I was a child and I constantly got bullied by everyone because they wanted me tf out for being an autistic retard. I was literally a pussy bitch who cried during training because the coach tried to push us with drills and I just lacked any confidence to do sports or to socialize. I remember getting hit in the face with basketballs hard as fuck and taunted during warmup before a game started because they wanted me to stay on the bench. It's funny how my dad never noticed any of this shit even though he was witnessing it at times because hes really autistic himself.

I got bullied out of any other social setting in similiar ways, adult people do the same thing but often in more subtle ways. Its really all types of people as you stated, even the quiet succubi and betas not just the chads and popular succubi because no one wants a buzzkill in the group. My parents hardly ever told me to stop being a sperg retard and if other people did I always took it as a personal insult like a faggot even though they were right. I never had any people who were close to me and honest so developing self-awareness was quite hard.

 No.312500

>>300616
I once punched one amongst the group who was nagging me for a while. They didnt dare to continue after that.

The thing I regret from those years? Not having grown better muscles at home, not having punched more faces.

 No.314389

some bullyin is good other serves no purpose

 No.314415

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>>311259
>This bizarre demonization of the virgin into the catchall problem of society is insane.
Read the End of the Wizards thread. It's intentional.

 No.314418

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>>312110
>>312111
>comes to wizchan just to lie
Jesus Christ man.

>>311957
>The societal-level lie
It's one thing for a society to be dominated by the brutal, it's another thing completely for the brutal to pretend that they believe in some sort of civility and justice. For some reason that is beyond my comprehension many of these type people need to believe that they are good people.

 No.314439

>>300996
So he went from a depressed loner to a slightly less depressed loner? He never actually fixed his problems it seems.

Why the fuck are there never any stories where these types get a full recovery?

 No.314773

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>>311259
>This bizarre demonization of the virgin into the catchall problem of society is insane.
image related, first and second post moreso than the third


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