No.302961
>>302960Yes. It's a mixture of deep and not-so deep psyop.
No.302969
Staying away from imageboards as much as possible has been a good decision for me. The constant schizo stuff is just not good for you, even if your brain has a good filter. It's the same like browsing Twitter or reddit all day, you're just hardly gonna read stuff that isn't mentally unhinged and your mind will suck it all up like a sponge. It's the same on here, there's just people who can't handle social isolation without diving into delusions at some point and there is no value in reading their schizo posts on things they don't even understand.
No.302976
>>302969Yes, OP. This wiz has it right. Stop reading 4chan. In fact, I would argue against reading social media entirely. Even the most well-meaning 4channers are unhinged and irritable. There's a level of exhaustion they all feel from being unable to leave the site. Trying to discuss anything is navigating a minefield because one mistaken piece of vocabulary can set people off. It's not worth it.
No.302998
MKULTRA'd
No.302999
Other social media sites are way more toxic.
No.303000
4cha' is for normalfagd
No.303001
I browse /v/ on 4chan and don't have this problem.
No.303009
What gives me a headache is looking at the catalog and seeing provocative images with some engagement bait one-line question.
No.303010
On fagbook you get to see geriatrics start drama over their neighbors trash bins not being APPROXIMATELY 6 inches FROM THE FUCKING CURB and other such karen nonsense
No.303011
4chan is filled with smug retarded normalfags that are obsessed with females
No.303012
>>303010I can't even create an account on Facebook because they want me to send in my ID and driver's license
LMAO No.303027
>>303012you must have hurt their butts good, mm!! good work proud of you lol
No.303082
4chan is edge lord central, everyone tries to up each other with insults or provoking content, most users are young 15-25yr and because of its reputation they seem to think they have an image to up hold to. Another theory is psyops on well frequented boards, because the site has more free speech and expression orientation agencies and shills try to control the narrative and sway community opinion. For instance, they want more division on politics instead of unity and keeping anons in the throws of mental illness and circumstance such as crabdom and NEETdom/Hikkis as well as an unhealthy view on people, culture and choices. I'll also add, there isn't much for discussion there intellectually or otherwise, repetitive talking points and basic rebuttals, not so much in depth proper discourse. Finally, I visit frequently enough but I hardly go to /b/ anymore, fuck that board I won't participate in /gif/ either, and /r9k/ is dead. Some other boards are interesting and sometimes fun but 4chan is in decline and has been for years, I know other forums have fuck all traffic so going there for chatting seems too tedious but it is what it is man you reap what you sow
No.303084
>>303082>they want more division on politics instead of unity and keeping anons in the throws of mental illness and circumstance such as crabdom and NEETdom/Hikkiswrong and even if it were true, do you know where you are?
No.303085
all these outsiders here telling other what to think. 4chan ,like I said, is for normalfags.
No.303103
>>303084Yes I know this is a site for mental illness doesn't change the fact that the glowniggers want to keep you trapped in your own head. You could argue they target crabs and losers but the more men who are like this they can spin the narrative, for example, shooters or more moderation on hate/free speech, they took down crabs on reddit. 4chan is basically a porn exposure site not including blue boards of course and the mental illness of users tend to frequent red boards where it is pushed a lot
No.303110
manages to be a better site than this one
No.303206
I try to search for lulz but often the text is just trash comments. There are more shills than trolls these days.
No.303210
>>303103I'm not denying that glowniggers incite things but often they also just look for the lowest common denominator which is the schizos with no grasp of reality and wait until they do some dumb shit. Remember that schizo LGBT dyke who shot up random Christians in Nashville because she got gassed up by her online fag community, the glowniggers most likely didn't even look into that because they don't mind if it's not crabs or neo nazis doing it.
No.303221
Hmm no. /v/ is still The Place with people and culture most like me. R9k used to Be cool so I browse it Out of nostalgia and Habit. I check /Pol/ once a Day because its fun and I dont take 4chan too seriously like an idiot.
No.303222
>getting filtered by 4chan
No.303245
I go to /k/ to look at webms of the ukraine war sometimes but other than that I have pretty much stopped using it because it's so shit and worthless and everyone there is mentally ill in unpleasant ways.
No.303257
>>303254True. No better than ShitTok.
No.303258
>>303254True, but where do I ask questions on the internet now? I feel like there's nothing left now. I have a better chance of getting a reply to my questions if I email a professor than if I post on a social media site.
No.303264
The addiction aspect to the site is certainly tough. Meandering propaganda mazes mostly define its content, but sometimes you will come upon worthwhile information not elsewhere findable, and then the aimless searching cycle begins again.
No.303266
>>302960I've ceased using the near entirety of 4chan permanently last week after somebody made a meme of me from one of my posts and some charcteristics I had talked about previously. After that I realised I had become too notorious on the board even though it was only five or six people who recognised me from my typing style. That was too much for me however and I had decided that enough was enough and that it was time to permanently stop visiting the board. I don't enjoy having my existance recognised, I'm a recluse who can only find sanctuary in obscurity. Call it an autistic overreaction but I don't care. After ten years of that place basically being my homepage of the internet I've finally grown too old for it, I felt like the only elder person in a special needs class full of retarded and delinquent children. Time to move on but I don't know where to.
No.303302
there is an invisible element somehow embedded into the html code that underlies 4chan and 4channel (all boards) that induces progressive psychosis. even the users themselves openly say culty things like "you can never leave" and their brain-enslaved fellows may be seen seconding their addiction with similar statements. i have gone from spending time searching through many different websites at length, and then, with a complete diversion of my attention, ventured onto 4chan, and reliably within 15 minutes, I feel worse with a mind freshly led into daze. there are high-level psychological operations being carried out over there, and such activity is not limited to the perceptible shifting outer layer of honeypots like pol, but is woven universally through the coded fabric of the boards themselves.
No.303304
>>303302Boy you can talk a lot of trash. You should be a writer.
No.303305
>>303304It's called schizoposting
No.303328
>>303302I agree with you wizzie. I don't think it's a mystical thing but various groups are purifying and testing methods of attention grabbing or aggravating content on 4chan. The whole site is set up to annoy you but at the same time keep you interested.
No.303339
>>303302bro it's just the fast pace of the site together with the ability to post anonymously so you don't need to worry about a reputation
I keep coming back despite being disappointed every time because I can comment on a bunch of threads and then get dopamine anticipating the reply and meanwhile I can refresh the catalog and see several new threads pop up.
But for this reason the site is brainrot. It's a bunch of dopamine addicts trying to get dopamine with the least effort possible by making provocative shitposts with low effort but high engagement.
No.303345
>>303266>I've finally grown too old for it, I felt like the only elder person in a special needs class full of retarded and delinquent children. Time to move on but I don't know where to.I just wanted to say that I relate to this so well. I've felt this way for years but never figured out how to clearly describe it.
For me it felt so sudden. It was like, with no warning, one day I was this 30 year old loser surrounded by 17 year old losers who were pretending to be 25 year old losers. Suddenly I was so out of place, there was nobody like me there anymore.
As if everyone else like me got some secret memo that it was time to go home, but for whatever reason, I never got the memo, so I just kept showing up to the retard-club, not realizing I was no longer welcome there.
No.303346
>>303266>>303345Just wanted to say that I know the feeling as well but towards the internet in general. 'Where to' is an important question, I struggle with it daily. Everyday I sit in front of the computer with that naive feeling I'll open wizchan and youtube and there will something interesting in there. Of course there isn't and at that moment I begin to waste away, browsing mindlessly, hoping I'll come across something to stave off boredom by complete accident.
Where to indeed. I have no idea.
No.303347
>>303346>>303345I havent gone to 4chan in 7+ years but I feel the same with wizchan. I just come out of habit
>>303346it is a problem. sometimes i enjoy just watching twitch streams or using twitch to find games to play.
No.303348
>>303346i think at some point your need to start creating or doing some hobby instead of consuming.
No.303352
>>303348Not him but that's the point I am at.
I used to do photography which is low effort art but I enjoyed the process a lot and posting my photos and talking about them was way more satisfying than anything else.
The big issue I'm having though is that something is fucked up with my reward system where I need instant gratification to do something and creating stuff is a very long process with very delayed reward ESPECIALLY the journey to developing the skills first.
No.303365
>>303254that is sadly true, every thread on the big boards is just bating(racebait and porn are widespread on blue boards too) and fishing for (you)'s.
I admit it can be fun to do while getting drunk on a Friday night but only on the fast boards that are already shit and can't be fixed.
Smaller hobby boards are alright because threads are focused on topics unlike other boards like /v/ or /pol/
No.303379
I never really used it. I used infinity chan for a couple neet and hikki boards. 4chan was only ever good for gore when Best Gore went offline. They just post the same webms, not worth it. Everything else is just boring.
No.303406
>>303348What do I do though? I've got a fucked up RSI. I used to draw and code a lot but now all I do is read, and it's boring.
No.303412
>>303302I love your writing style. Cute schizo.
No.303414
>>303339People like yourself who always use terms like dopamine addicts, are dehumanizing as hell. Please stop
No.303415
Still better than this site.
No.303419
>>303345>one day I was this 30 year old loser surrounded by 17 year old losers who were pretending to be 25 year old losersI genuinely believe the blue boards on 4chan aren't attracting new users and the site is ageing. In retrospect the hysterical concern over newfags and underage was due to the fact that we were mostly underage. Now nobody really gives a shit if a zoomer wanders in.
Apparently on /o/ and some of the more hobby orientated boards, you have people bragging about having a wife and kids. Because that's what imageboard niggers do, they arrogantly brag about things. They arrogantly brag about being NEETs at the age of 19 when it's actually fun being one. They arrogantly brag about being $120,000 full stack engineers at the age of 25-30 when that becomes impressive. And then they brag about having a wife and kids at 35-40 when that's the most important thing for most men.
No.303420
>>302960IT'S NORMALITY. You can feel its eroding aura sinking deeper and deeper into thy soul.
Too much porn lets you know they want you to coom your brain away
No.303425
>>302963
yeah /pol/ is absolutely retarded, it's probably on par with reddit. what can I say, the need to discuss politics is a trait of the lowliest scum
No.303428
>>303414Biochemical processes are part of being human. We aren't some magical beings. The way people post on 4chan is dehumanizing if anything because you are not trying to have a normal conversation.
No.303451
>>303415Why are you here?
No.303455
I think we could all benefit from periodic reminders of how far things have fallen.
4chan…
>Is explicitly named and referenced in over a hundred major movies and TV shows by now.>Has had hundreds of major 'news investigation' style reports done on it.>Has had multiple documentaries made about it ("tfwnogf", "feels good man" and others).>Is listed on most of the major porn site ranking lists.>Is known and named by the majority of boomers, who know about it due to mainstream reporting on crabs, pizzagate, Qanon, etc.>Is completely dominated by Youtubebuxers and other profiteering content miners who now essentially define what most people think about the site.>Has had all its major memes appropriated by outsiders who use them to 'in group' themselves for street cred and profit ( https://youtu.be/Do7B74dyEVs ).>Has been and continues to be the subject of academic studies all over the world, there are like actual academics who SPECIALISE in studying 4chan.>Has been and continues to be actively monitored by multiple police and spy agencies and discussed at anti-terror summits, etc.>Has had Passes for years which allow anyone with dodgy motives to be able to essentially spam for free, it's almost designed to encourage this. The Youtubebuxxer who used a language model to spam the board simply bought himself a pass to do so.>Is inextricably tied up with the 'meme' cryptocurrencies and there are multiple companies that exist to 'shill memes' on 4chan to promote memecoins. This is all for selfish dishonest people to make money at the expense of others, using cultural references to ingratiate themselves and thus debasing that culture.4chan culture is mined to death and we should probably stop referring to it altogether.
No.303458
>>302960Where else can you go but /pol/ and sometimes a few other boards for uncensored discussion about important social topics, such as race issues? The succubus question? Reddit is censored to hell, twitter is not a discussion board, Faceberg is jewed, etc. An unfortunate fact of all the censorship/centralization of the internet is if you want actual truth you need to sift through the 95% shit to find a tiny nugget of wisdom on such a place.
That's why shitholes like /pol/ are addicting: the reward of filtering through constant retarded garbage to find an original perspective on taboo topics that would be censored everywhere else
No.303459
>>303458>important social topics, such as race issuesokay.
>Reddit is censored to hell, twitter is not a discussion board, Faceberg is jewed, etc.Race gets discussed all the time on all three sites, you can't exactly call for genocide but lots of discussion takes place on race. There are thousands of other sites and forums to discuss these things, also.
>the reward of filtering through constant retarded garbage to find an original perspective on taboo topics that would be censored everywhere elseI'm curious, can you give some examples of the gems of original perspective you've found? Give me an idea of what you find an original perspective that'd be banned everywhere else?
No.303461
/pol/tard finds out his extreme right wing shit is reviled by anyone outside of his echochambers, how cute.
"how come i get censored for bringing up the jewish question on grandma's facebook page waaaaaaah!"
No.303470
>>303458Fucking polbrats have the race thing so imprinted in their brains that they can't have a thought without making it about race, can't speak a sentence without the word "race" in it, and want the whole world to take oh so seriously the one subject their screen-fried brains are capable of processing.
Any one brings the subject of race, you know the disease.
No.303479
>>303458You think 4chan isn't censored? The censorship is just soft censorship in the form of bots actively derailing discussion, bait threads, hostile shitposters etc. You can't discuss anything on 4chan.
No.303809
>>303479How do moderators on 4chins delete wrongthink posts so quickly? They must have whole teams of janitors that scour the different boards day and night for anything that could faintly resemble a violation of their rules or hint at the existence of information that is not supposed to be for public consumption. The control that these freaks have and seek to maintain even in self-proclaimed 'politically incorrect' web-spaces like 4chan is seriously insane.
No.303810
>>302969twitter is the female version of 4chan
No.303812
>>303458The trouble is that the Internet is too fucking centralized now. There used to be loads of forums with active users, and personal websites with loads of hits. You could have a discussion literally anywhere.
Now if you don't fit in on a dozen or so popular sites it's like you've been kicked off the Internet.
No.303813
>>303810twitter is everything bad about every site in one convenient location.
No.303818
>>303811imageboards are inherently low quality, that's what makes them fun. you can write a long post about hegel or you could post some retarded oneliner and it doesn't really matter cuz it will disappear soon anyway.
>I want a board where people are kind to each other and the discussion is high quality and I would probably ban any politics talk.that's called a subreddit or regular phpbb forum.
No.303824
>>303811There's a board called /kind/ that's forced niceness.
No.303901
>>303818>that's called a subreddit Waht? Genuinely waht? No politics is reddit? Being kind is reddit? Are you from a looney-toons opposite world?
No.304135
Abstention from 4chan = clearer, less anxious mind.
No.304912
perhaps it's just too much information all at once?
No.304914
>>303901most subreddits have gay rules about being nice and no politics/sex/religion etc. any controversial discussion gets shut down cuz people get too worked up and you can't have that.
>yeah but i want le imageboard culture but no one can call me a faggot or talk about their true beliefsi repeat: that's called REDDIT.COM and you should go there lmao
No.305013
Kind of weird that reddit pulled ahead of 4chan in which media site I use more often. It's just better by nearly every metric.
No.305310
Yeah, I made a post about it in another thread. I feel absolutely terrible after browsing 4chan for a while, it doesn't happen here or in any other imageboard, just 4chan. There's something weird going on there.
No.305316
I might just be over the internet in general. Maybe I am too self-important, attention hungry and egoistic but I can't stand people making throwaway posts. I look at this thread for example where 70% of the posts have no reply and it makes me sick. It makes me feel like I am not talking to people and it makes me feel lonely. I used to be fine with having no irl social interaction because the internet was a good substitute but now it doesn't satisfy this need anymore.
No.305324
>>302976>>303000lol says the faggot who hangs out on a website where it's prohibited to talk about something everyone loves
>>303011 No.305331
>>305316Why craft a smart post if you won't get any response 90% of the time? or if you get a response it's from someone without a frontal lobe?
Here's the thing I realized recently. You really can't ignore bad posts or bad content. People tell you to do it. "Oh just hide it/report it" but human beings *avoid* things which annoy them, not ignore. You can see this from all the people who now have their phones on silent. We don't ignore spam calls, we just avoid them.
Shitty, low-effort or inflammatory content will drive off everyone eventually, regardless of if there's still some good stuff around. Your mind can't filter everything. Even if it could, it takes mental effort to do so , so you're going to unconsciously avoid these sites.
No.305386
>>305310Any accurate guesses what that something might be?
No.305410
Never spent much time on 4chan but I find the shit posting here to be much more enjoyable as someone who likes to passively lurk.
No.305411
>>305331>Shitty, low-effort or inflammatory content will drive off everyone eventuallyThat's what makes me so angry about 4chan. There are elitist spaces where people are very critical which elevates the quality of content as everyone tries to meet the high standards and the people judging you actually have some skills to back up their elitism. On 4chan you have a bunch of idiots who will be negative no matter what and it's not justified or earned as the quality of posts is really low.
>>303353also this really pisses me off about that place
>>305386I'm not that guy but for me reading the same predictable catchphrases wears me down mentally. Also I REALLY REALLY hate these ugly "soyjack" images people love to post there. They are grotesque.
I feel especially affected by this since I have no real life social spaces to escape to. The internet is all I have unlike these people who shitpost on their phone while in their school class.
No.305413
4chan is fine. You have to make questions about interesting topics and you will get a wiz replying to you and helping you
No.305415
>>305411>I REALLY REALLY hate these ugly "soyjack" images people love to post there. They are grotesque.you'd think they would have moved on by now, these have unfortunately become mainstream on social media
No.305418
>>305413agree, 4chan works fine for me. People actually discuss things you just need to know how to make a thread
No.305419
I read on 4chan that succubi have far a greater capacity to enjoy sex 10 times more than men orgasms last longer that if you put your penis inside a succubus who is drunk and horny you will see the stars and go back to the past and the future and have revelations about life
No.305436
What else is there? Good subreddits are too slow and discords are too cliquey.
No.305438
>>305436Personally, i just drop in here for a while and then i'll leave for a month or two until the urge comes back. Maybe it's an age thing but i'm almost with online socialising and lurking. It's pretty much all garbage anyway.
No.305443
>>305411>Also I REALLY REALLY hate these ugly "soyjack" images people love to post there. They are grotesque.i love them. it reminds libtards how fat and ugly they are. just get it shape and reject globohomo and it won't bother you anymore
No.305469
Not a key site….
No.305787
frenschan has good discussion without the informational clutter of 4chan.
No.305792
>>305787most generic altchan yet
No.305803
I can't remember the last time I saw anything in social media that brought me positive emotions really, maybe many years ago here finding the occasional person I could relate to. I read it and consume it, there's entertainment, but there's nothing out there that makes me glad I engaged with it really.
No.305806
I guess it depends on why you use it and what boards you go on.
These days I mainly use 4chan as a sounding board for very particular usually technical questions, to give asked for advice, for writing promps and a place to write very short very shit stories, and most of all for porn. So the only time it makes me feel bad is when a good porn thread gets spammed with gay-op bullshit.
No.306014
>>305806>most of all for pornSeriously?, what boards? Because /gif/ is pure trannies, gays and disgusting fetishes. There is like 2 or 3 good threads in that board, the rest is shit.
No.306018
>>305469what does that mean ?
No.306042
>>306014I use filters for /gif/, but mainly /aco/, /s/, a little /b/ since it's practically a porn board at this point, a few threads on /d/ and /trash/, and a few threads on /h/.
I do go on /gif/ sometimes but less for porn now days since as you pointed out, the weird spam of shit I ain't interested in has gotten out of hand. rekt threads and fight threads are still fun on /gif/ when it isn't full of race bait.
No.306043
>>306014The quality of the porn on /gif/ took a steep nosedive the same time the rest of the site did when the neonazis showed up
No.306050
>>306043I don't think the neonazis are the ones posting trannie and other garbage on /gif/.
No.306054
>>306050the leader of the Nazis, Nick Fuentes admits he likes trans porn, so he can prove that all succubi have rape fantasies
No.306091
>>306043reconquista harder faget
No.306123
>>306043>when the neonazis showed upSo, around 2009?
No.306180
i avoid gore and edgy websites. it just leaves a bad taste to the brain
as a kid and a teen, 4chan was great for that stuff, but i would rather not subject myself to it. even movies are too violent for my tastes now. i get why old boomers complained about violent videogames. it's everywhere now
No.306188
>>306164you're fucked in the head my man
No.306899
Is anyone else getting banned a lot lately on 4chan?
I keep getting 2 days bans over the slightest things. Like, I make a legit thread on /v/ asking for the name of a game and I get banned for making an "off-topic post" or I make a post in /pol/ and I get banned for "shitposting", like seriously? shitposting on /pol/? 80% of posts there are shitposts and the rest are bots and glowies.
Even fucking reddit has less power-tripping mods. That place has really become a worse shithole than it already was.
Can't wait until it finally gets taken down.
No.306900
>>306203implicit soyjak post
No.306916
>>306899Something is very strange on /pol/
You can shitpost and support mass shooters and advocate murder/genocide and be fine.
But make a thread concerning the blackpill or crab matters and threads get deleted and bans are handed out. On the politically incorrect board. It's weird how a politically incorrect topic that impacts a sizeable number of the userbase is effectively a banned topic.
No.306922
>>306916/pol/ must have been infiltrated by wizchan mods
No.306924
>>306921
>MLP and Pro-LGBTQ+ aren't allowed outside of their containment boards.
What? The latter is one most 4chan boards these days.
No.306950
I thought that this was a SomethingAwful thread at first and Google'd Kyanka and found out he committed suicide back in 2021.
Man have I fallen out of the loop.
No.306952
>>306925
can't defame the son in law of the Messiah
No.306954
I find the entire internet to be a slurry of pure shit. Been online for 24 years and found great escape at the start when I was a teenager, now it is constantly disappointing and degenerating the human spirit. The whole thing will make you feel awful soon
No.306962
>>306954The internet has become that no doubt.
Sometimes I suspect it be a demon, or controlled by demonic entities, which you could also call silicon valley I guess.
It is sad that we can see thatbut still be unable to take our eyes off the stupid screen.
No.306965
at worst 10-15 minutes of reading 4chan might just make me feel bored with all the shilling and low effort shit posting. Occasionally during a happening or something like an oppenheimer thread might be entertaining, but usually they just end up going back to talking about normalfag stuff. I think only playing GTA4 made me feel awful, but not much different from spending all day doing unproductive activities.
No.307243
>>307242most sites i visit are written by my split personalities while im sleeping
No.307356
>>302960If it's any consolation, 4chan kind of seems like it's dying. Images have been loading like molasses, sometimes taking several minutes to load one image. The site has lost key investors due to public scrutiny and it is probably getting raped by high interest rates.
No.307357
>>306954I think the internet causes a person's problem-solving abilities to atrophy. It becomes impossible to envision what other things you could be doing with your time. It erodes the imagination completely.
No.307364
>>307357thats true my first instinct at any obstacle is to make a thread about it since there are 0 barriers and consequences unlike on forums where you would get banned if you made too many threads
No.307392
>>307356>dying4chan died a long time ago. It's being kept artificially alive.
No.307393
>>307356isnt 4chan run by google?
No.307486
>>307364I sadly am this way aswell. My car broke down a few days ago, and I made a thread about it on 4ch's /o/. No help. I called my father and he told me to jumpstart it, and told me how to.
No.307708
I just got a month ban from 4chan for absolutely no reason, the mods are losing their marbles
I might use it as an opportunity to quit the site for good, it's always been a waste of time but it's not a funny or creative place anymore
No.307709
>>307708>for absolutely no reasonyeah right
No.307714
>>307708I got a permaban last year over posting a picture of the actress Isabella Sermon. They deleted the picture shortly after. Reason? "pedo"
It only makes my penis harder.
No.307723
You can literally create your own imageboard. Stop being lazy and create a text or imageboard of your own.
Just ask GPT\Perplexity:
"Please give me detailed, simple instructions for creating my own imageboard\textboard."
GPT-4 will give you highly detailed instructions, it can explain any concept your don't understand, it can even code for you. You can even have it take you through the process step by step.
Now, if you're REALLY unable to do this, find an imageboard that you like and contribute to it in meaningful ways, create nice threads, share good ideas, help other people, or contact the admins for ways to improve the site. If you find interesting people online, contact them and ask them to post once or twice on the board and give it a try. If it's a nice culture they might stick around a bit.
No culture is forever, everything is in a constant state of birth, growth, flourishing, decay, death, etc. Focus on the growing part.
GPT-4 can code practically anything for you, even a non-coder can produce things with a bit of trial and error. We could be experiencing a renaissance of online culture right now assisted by these LLMs. Instead people are sitting back and letting them devour us.
Forget 4chan and build your own culture.
No.307726
This AIshit will be the final nail in the coffin of oldschool anonimity. I hope you all get AIDS and suck Musks cock.
No.307727
>>307725That's pretty much reddit, but instead of people downvoting directly, they train the AI on what to downvote.
No.307729
>>307727The system I'm proposing isn't anything like reddit. Other than on /b/, most of the other boards on 4chan had their own rules, r9k had the robot that filtered speech and images.
The owners of an imageboard can use the system to FILTER the absolute worst, trashiest comments that don't add anything of value to the debate. That's no different than Wizchan having its 'Global Rules' which already includes a rule like "Do not submit low quality, inflammatory or off-topic posts."
It can also be used simply to present information to other users about the LLM's assessment of various dimensions to the comment. This is not the same as people voting up or down comments, as it wouldn't necessarily affect visibility of comments or where they appear. This thread would exist exactly as it does now, but perhaps to the left of the post number you might have a clickable\expandable element "Comment Rating", or perhaps in some cases where one factor was particularly pronounced, you could have something more prominent, for example your comment
>>307727 could be labelled "This comment has appeals to belongingness".
Or, as I've already said, the user could simply be warned of that before posting, the moment you hit submit, your comment could have read "Warning: our system has rated your comment as moderately appealing to belongingness, please re-consider what you're posting", and you could perhaps edit it again before posting it for real. Maybe you would ignore it, but for others who are more considerate they might hold back and reconsider and change up their argument a bit. Up to the owners.
Seriously, in response to my comment, whether you agree or disagree with me, does this comment:
>Stop suggesting it for every practical problem you paid shill.Really add that much to the conversation? Is it constructive or is it combative and utterly stupid? The LLM wouldn't necessarily be banning IDEAS or ARGUMENTS from being expressed, the author of this comment could have easily put foward a coherent argument for why they suspect I'm somehow in the employ of OpenAI or whatever.
The LLM could rate comments on a variety of factors. Here are some that I think are important:
-Belongingness (don't post Pepes\Wojaks, don't say "Cope", don't accuse others of being reddit or reduce their arguments to Belongingness: Refrain from posting Pepes/Wojaks, using phrases like "Cope", or accusing others of being from Reddit, as well as avoiding reducing arguments to a Reddit vs. imageboard narrative to foster a sense of "us" vs "them." Such behaviors contribute to an unproductive form of groupthink.
Spookiness (Think Max Stirner): Avoid leaning on highly ideological notions such as nationalism or an imagined "duty" to defend a particular race. These ideas are unbeneficial and divert from rational discourse.
Performativity: Encourage authentic expressions and genuine communication rather than conforming to certain personas or engaging in pretenses to fit in. This aligns closely with promoting a sense of belonging based on genuine interaction.
Direction Brainedness: Discourage divisive arguments characterized by labeling others with politically charged terms or promoting binary perspectives on issues.
Hostility & Aggression Rating: It's self-evident why reducing hostility and aggression is essential for constructive discussions.
Gender Indicating: While platforms like Wizchan already have rules against gender indication, it's crucial to remain vigilant against subtler attempts that may occur.
Logical Fallacy: Promote awareness of logical fallacies to help posters strengthen their arguments before posting.
Physiognomic Stereotype: Avoid calling people 'nu-male' 'beta', etc.
Gentlemanliness: Encourage respectful and courteous interaction as a means to foster a positive community environment.
Reaction Amplification: Discourage the habit of reposting content from mainstream media or social platforms and instead promote original discussions exploring issues and ideas in their own context. This helps avoid the domination of pop culture, news cycles, and e-celebrities on imageboards.
Sexualization: Limit sexualization to appropriate contexts to maintain the focus on substantial discussions.
Cuck Posting: (Self-explanatory)
Doomposting: Although subject to interpretation, it's essential to manage doomposting to prevent an overly negative and low-energy atmosphere, except in certain contexts where it's relevant.
Linguistic Quality: Encourage well-articulated posts to enhance the overall quality of discussions.
Now only a few of these are things you'd actually want to use as a basis to block a user from posting. Primarily Hostility & Aggression, Sexualisation (in the wrong places), Gender Indicating. The rest though could be used to help posters improve their posts, or help readers avoid wasting their time or instantly pick flamers\trolls\shitty people to ignore. Many may simply ignore these guides, but they could be helpful for those who want them, and might elevate the quality of conversation.
It can be automated so you post a comment, and it would take only a second or two if using a faster model.
No.307730
>>307729Yeah, that's reddit, but may be even worse. Posts there are filtered through a predictable hivemind, you are just proposing doing that through an AI. Filtering posts through format is miles away from having rules about the content. Also, "belongingness" is part of wizchan, and even so you are setting criteria on what belongs and what doesn't, just using your own personal criteria as its basis.
>Really add that much to the conversation?It does make its point. It's direct and followed by a vocative, but there's nothing wrong with that. It was even the basis on which you posted your own idea.
>combativeUsing an insult is less combative and aggressive than trying to undermine local culture. Still, nothing wrong with being aggressive. I hope that at least you aware that, had a similar system been implemented here, your posts would be more likely to be filtered than mine, and probably even than his.
>Doomposting: Although subject to interpretationAll of them are, really, and the classical wizard userbase would interpret mostly against you.
>Linguistic QualityWell, that might filter Indians and Brazilians, so you may have a point about everything.
No.307733
>>307730> Posts there are filtered through a predictable hivemind, you are just proposing doing that through an AI.No, the site owners determine everything. Already, the owners of Wizchan can and would delete (or ban someone for) some limited comments under some conditions. If someone today posts a comment bragging about having a girlfriend and having amazing sex and claiming that Wizards are losers, I imagine the comment would be removed OR the user would be banned, correct? So the owners can use the AI for better 'filtering' in that sense, I'm not proposing increased censorship, the owners of an imageboard determine what's acceptible, what the minimal bar is, and in some instances a high degree of combativeness\hostility\aggression might not be tolerated. AI does the filtering or even pre-filters for a human reviewer to consider. It would also be handy for filtering things the owners wouldn't want on the site for legal liability reasons, like people threatening violence or posting links to CP or something.
>It does make its point…This comment just throws out a lame accusation of me being a shill (meme behaviour from /pol/) without even giving any specific argument or reasoning. It's essentially worthless. Should it be "hidden" or "deleted"? I wouldn't miss it, but we don't need that, if we had the LLM system trained, it could be rated a certain way, and I could personally gloss over it based on its rating, which saves me time and effort, and keeps discussion productive and meaningful.
>All of them are, really, and the classical wizard userbase would interpret mostly against you.This list is meant as a suggestion of ways to rate comments on imageboards in general, so not limited to Wizchan. Obviously these suggested ratings don't need to be applied all the time on every site or every board. Also, the ratings are again NOT meant to censor anything, its just meant to passively encourage higher quality posting.
Again let me emphasise - this isn't about censorship, it's about CONSCIOUSNESS. Like tapping ourselves on the shoulder every now and then to remind us to "elevate the conversation". Most of what we write here is going to end up feeding SOMEONE'S LLM because I don't think there's any way to prevent that, there are people chewing up conversational data all over the internet. We're going to face more issues as malicious actors could use LLM's to essentially "spam" sites like this with completely fake content. In theory RIGHT NOW it would be possible for me to start posting as multiple personas on here and build up entire fake threads of fake posters and so on. Probably nobody right now will go to the effort, but if we don't work on improving the quality of discussion and welcoming as many real Wizards as possible, we'll find ourselves disconnected and alone.
No.307734
>>307733I guess I made my point. His post might be rated a certain way, so might yours. Didn't work for Strasser, didn't work for Trotsky.
No.307736
>>307723There are hostile actors who will harass your chan out of spite if it ever gets popular. DDOSers, CP spammers, and insane individuals who, when slighted in any way, target you out of an obsession.
No.308733
I feel my mind is clearer when I don't go there. I feel healthier. But it is like a strange addiction; and I think many of the posters there are addicted to the site in a way that would qualify for clinical addiction.
No.309450
>>302976This is exactly how I feel as a regular 4chan user. I hate that place but I'm addicted
No.310408
>>305411Soyj*ks are such abominations and It’s bizarre how they’re drawn so uglier now. Not only they’re intrusive and are spam but people started using them as a way to spread hate to one another with suicide messages and other gruesome shit.
No.310417
>>310401>>310408>reddit>reddit>redditOnly newfags continually repeat this to pretend that they're part of the oldfags. You don't even know why wojaks and pepe frogs are abhorrent in their current form because you have no real roots to old internet culture, just contrarianism.
No.310419
>>309450It’s the only place I can be myself. I mean I can socialize and joke and banter for a bit. Even if ppl in 4chan are aweful.
No.310420
>>310408Seems like a metaphor for 2 loser crab friends, but Pepe got all political and sadistic, and spends all his time looking down on Wojack, even though really they are both in the same boat.
No.310421
>>310420Pepe went down the NJF rabbithole and started hating niggers and kikes. Wojak gave up on it all and found happiness in his hobbies and living his own life, sometimes crying from >tfwnogf but a much more developed and nuanced humanbeing./
No.310422
Pepe= Nietzsche
Wojak= Schopenhauer
Schopenhauer was even born in Danzig, Polish Commonwealth 1788, he's a Wojak
No.310424
So Pepe hates soyjak so much because wojak found happiness in escapist consooming, while pepe continues to be relentlessly pounded by the hell of reality despite his smug smirk which soon turned into clownish insanity. both found ways to move on from their Feels Bad Man phase.
No.310425
>>310424>relentlessly pounded by the hell of reality How else does coal become GEMS? Shine on, Aryan Kings..
No.310430
too many things happening the same time and always has something new. You, just like me, are used to slow IBs or just forums in general since 4chan is basically a chatbox with many posts per second. That said, I'd to include the glowies doing psyops which drains your energy
No.310431
>>310426
>malding
Found the zoomer newfag, probably a tranny too.
So much of a newfag that you don't ask why 4chan, or any imageboard, haven't produced any new memes for the last 10+ years and have instead rehashed wojak and pepe over and over and over. Hell they're not even memes anymore.
No.310442
4chan is not what it used to be. Last night I trolled for fun and got like 20 (you) with just one post and just doing that I derailed one /v/ general thread and started a war. It was a good shitpost that butthurt too many fags.
No.310444
>>310442>4chan is not what it used to be.That's been the case for a decade. There's been a mass moderation change across ALL imageboards ever since then around 2012-2014.
No.310445
>>310442lol you're posting that on a website that serves as the ultimate echo chamber where people get banned for no reason just because the oppressive mods get butthurt. you're bragging about that on wizchan of all places? hilarious
No.310446
>>310444Back then they will ignore unrelated posts and obvious baits. Normalfags aren't good at playing the chans
>>310445> you're posting that on a website that serves as the ultimate echo chamber where people get banned for no reason just because the oppressive mods get butthurt.and that website is…?
No.310447
>>310446>and that website is…?This one, numbnuts.
No.310480
>>310447You're posting on thin ice, mister.
No.310490
>>310422Pepe is Socrates, Nietzsche was also a wojack and a weakling.
No.310493
>>310490Nietzsche often evoked an image of a star, no doubt identifying himself with this celestial body. Studying his Arbeitskurve, I have observed that he usually wrote no more than two books per year, often just one. In his last productive year of 1888, however, he "emitted" at least five books, shorter but of high energy. In physics, such high emission of energy is held to occur when the nucleus of the atom is unstable and "the centre cannot hold".
Cosmologists maintain that the dying stars shine the brightest, and perhaps Nietzsche was no exception.
No.311586
Spent a few hours reading 4chan and realised that my mood has worsened considerably since doing so. What is the answer to this question?
No.311615
>>311586I can't help but cringe when I read anything on 4chan. I just hate their mannerisms and opinions in general.
No.311619
>>311615i also feel this. i can't help but wonder if this a reflection of how fucked up in the head people are. it could also be just an algorithmic theater. programs talking to each other trying to convince me they are actual people. i could be a fish they are fishing for in their quest for data.
No.311644
The "Politics Thread #84: Forbidden Philosophy" is bump locked.
No.311647
>>302960Are you aware of the type of people that post there and in imageboards in general?
Once you are aware of that you understand why those places are like that.
No.311652
>>311619> it could also be just an algorithmic theater. programs talking to each other trying to convince me they are actual people. i could be a fish they are fishing for in their quest for data.There is definitely some of this going on. There are the same threads being made over and over again on repeat on literally every board and have been for years. There were extremely fishy patterns of posting going on back during the pizzagate/16 election. You could literally tell which threads were being constantly bumped and promoted. It seems to have gotten somewhat more subtle but there is still a lot of content out there designed to demoralize people and condition them to think and act a certain way.
People with money and power have access to certain capital which allows propaganda to be spread. If you think about it, the most likely place for it first to appear is somewhere like 4chan where there are no accounts so people can't track who is posting what. It makes it the literal easiest way to disseminate propaganda without being seen. You don't need to build up a bunch of accounts and have them pretend to be real people for a while before you start shilling, you can just start shilling right out of the gate and no one will ever catch on. The people there aren't just that crazy for no reason, like it's all just a big coincidence, they are being actively psyoped, that much is for sure.
No.311653
>>311652this is what internet induced schizophrenia looks like
No.311655
>>311653thinking that the wealthy wouldn't use every tool at their disposal to increase their wealth and power is what is schizo. If the technology exists, someone is using it, why wouldn't they? Ask yourself that. Why wouldn't they? If you have a convincing reason, I'd love to hear it.
No.311662
>>302960I'm not sure what's there to actually READ??
I only browse there for some WebMs. The posts are absolute garbage.
>>302969True.
No.312665
>>310408>>311586No more funny greentexts there. r/4chan is much better for having a laughter, given the case
No.312705
I forgot about this thread. 4chan is a dark place; in moderation I think the effects are less poisonous. Also I agree with
>>303302 as the users there really do enforce their own obsession with the website when they tell others inquiring how to leave that such a thing is impossible.
No.313314
I think Project Bluebeam (fake alien invasion) may be coming up. I've been reading threads on 4chan detailing "alien disclosure" yet strangely there is little discussion in those threads anent Bluebeam. Do not believe anything you see on the TV networks, wizards. This will be like "covid" – a total psychological operation that furthers the judeo-masonic control system. The vaccine may have something to do with neurologically enabling the illusion of an alien invasion. I hope none of you took that poison. Remember they can use the "threat" of an alien invasion as a way to hold the population in a perpetual state of martial law, even bombing whole cities and blaming it on the "aliens" as a way to keep the population continually terrorized. Nothing should be ruled out here as (((they))) just tyrannized the entire world for four years under the enforced illusion of a fake plague…and the striking majority of humanity went along with it all without the least resistance or dissenting thought.
No.313316
>>305415they did move on. variants used by the mainstream are considered bad taste by the real soy community, which, in turn, uses the cutting edge slopjaks that cannot be appropriated by normalGODS because of their grotesquely offensive form.
No.313745
>>302960It's trannies and attention whores. They tend to have that effect
No.313763
>>302960 I can feel 4chan's influence on my everyday life and it's been years at this point.
Don't get me wrong, there are some pretty obvious things in this world that I just never noticed or even knew about, due to lack of socialization in my formative years and 4chan showed me the dirt part of this life, but drawbacks of that were not worth it.
I feel 0 connection culturally with 95% of people around me and my chain of thoughts over the years has become a lot more vice and poisonous, which ruined a lot of my family and friends relationships.
Like the anons above mentioned, the right way to use imageboards is as a forum for narrow hobbies or maybe learning. For memes or a regular chitchat it is a sewage.
No.313764
>>3137634chan is mostly a microcosm of American thoughts shaped by American modern culture.
Most of the users are very, very mentally ill as evidenced by their posts. Their brains ruined since they were toddlers.
You would be unhealthy if you didn't feel physically ill in that asylum after half an hour of reading.
No.313765
>>313764I just wish I could have a normal page on Facebook and talk with my relatives and classmates without feeling like a soyjack memelord normie.
No.313770
4chan has become a psyop site full of bots and glowies from different intelligence agencies from all over the world. Most of the post you find there aren't even made by humans and the bots are trained to be annoying and hostile to drain your metal health as much as possible.
No.313840
darkness everywhere…even on fourchins it is just a feeling of darkness. the world was not like this in 2007 (for example). I am despairing.
No.313872
>>313840Things are different. The sky does not have its usual yellow warmth anymore. The experienced fabric of the world also feels less real.
No.313883
i think OP is a fagot, if you know how to use 4chan you will realise you use it in 2 ways:
1. posting mode
if you want to be part of a disscusin to get the (you)s, you have to go to the catalog and look at 2 things: the title and image, if they are good quality, you enter the thread. then you have to look at how long the tread is, and calculate how long you think the thread will stay up. and look at the post(look fast trhought the post, do not read theme), if the post are thick and other things, that seems like a good thread. then go and talk in the tread. or if it is a image generating thread, just look at it, and judge if it is a good place to post. and then post.
2. lurk mode
if you are just lurking and just want to see good opinion, then you go to the FUCKING archive and use the search function there.
like, it is obious. op is a newfagot and dose not now shit. i hate 3rd worlders so much. plz kill your selfe.
No.313884
>>311652yes, shilling has allways existed. nothing new. the "boomer monster drink", was 100% obious shill from jew company. the 3 r in monster drink if hebrew letter for 6, so it is 666. so we know… that monster drink company is shilling on 4chan. and monster drink company is associated with hebrew speaking people. of shit! i think i have found a offical connection here guys…
and yes, shilling was a thing on internet forums, all the way back to the 90s on e-mails, were people were pretending to be inocent and did not know anything and you should do X.
No.313886
>>313770Lol, peak schizo theory, most likely is just full of shit posting dudes, love those schizo theory
No.313890
>>313886there exist 4chan gpt that made like 25% of all board on /pol/ and people have been talking about shillbot program and you can look in archive that shill. like fagot, kill u selfe
No.314331
4chins, jews,
No.314334
>>313886>schizothat's glowie gaslight language
No.314367
>>313886Not even remotely schizo, 4chan obviously glows and has been a honey pot for longer than people realize.
Hell, even these alt-chans are almost certainly monitored in some way, shape or form.
No.315432
reading awful and feeling 4chan?
No.315436
The place's changed now, wizards used to be about 3DPD but now they're constantly crabbing over there. Plenty of """real men""" insistent on visiting the site daily to call others losers too
No.315437
>>314367Why do you people think this? Honeypots require arrests. Who is getting convicted and arrested for anything on 4chan???
No.315438
>>303345I feel the same about wizchan.
It is like everyone else who was here in my 20s left and became normies yet here I am, still being. a retarded 30+ year old virgin who is quickly approaching 40.
No.315460
the shills are using advanced techniques to bypass people's bullshit filter and attack their state of mind. They false flag themselves as friends, they make the user give an initial cognitive investment and then burn them, they repurpose their well poisoning as authentic, they spam attack visual memes to unconsciously hurt the person's worldview. Electronics always put people into more sedate brainwave states and that's why social media is so powerful, nowadays you can't even relax in your digital community pub because of these parasites.
The day will come for ukraine and mill psyops however. We know who they are and there's a black mark on their back for retribution once we rise above…
No.315461
>>315460I think the key is to subconsciously condition yourself to hate anything coming from liberals a priori so they cannot change the mental channel. I was vaguely distracting myself from full focus on the chans with music and visualizing sharty memes of acking and the like to get to that level. Also slowly associating certain opfor memes or phrases with instant rejection to lower the cognitive load going on. Now my mind instantly defaults to a defensive state in advance of the information being provided.
We are in a war. A 4th generation or higher one where the enemy is trying to place mental constructs and scripts in our head to control what we think before we act. You wouldn't trust a hostile tribe in the field of battle, so why do you trust a sociopath presenting with misleading signals today? Reframe your mind to become defensive and energetic, it is a very spiritual thing
No.315476
That is by design. After the 2016 election, 4chan became a huge target for three-letter agencies and "anti-hate" NGOs. They have several strategies they employ to disrupt the place, but the most used one - and arguably the most effective - is simply making the boards unbearable to browse. Hiroshigook seems to be aware of this and is implementing some measures to prevent bad actors from trashing the boards.
No.315477
>>313745This is somewhat true. For some reason, trannies are overrepresented on 4chan and X, and they tend to say really weird shit
No.315480
>>315476the registration system for pol definitely worked in cutting down the crap. The board resembles normal election cycles with hype threads and spicy takes now. They also are anchoring thing aggressively
No.315608
>>313745It's right wing retards like you that are pushing everyone away from these imageboard sites.
No.315609
>>315608the imageboard scene became right wing because that's what happened to the target demographic. It's almost universal at this point, I can go to /lit/ and it's the same dudes who post about hardcore ideology on politics. The only real gradient is like softcore libertarians versus hardcore nationalists. It's a reflection of broader social trends to the right that people buy this product
No.315610
>>315608Any place that allows unbiased discussion will inevitably become populated by right wingers on account of the fact that right wing ideas are the most popular, especially among those who enjoy conversing and engaging within a community. The prevalence of right wing talking points is organic. It is the left-leaning people who must maintain their majority on any site through strict rules and witch-hunting.
>retards like you that are pushing everyone away from these imageboard sites>everyoneNo, the only people who won't engage with an openly right wing community are radical leftists who can't bear to be outside of their bubbles and echo chambers. No imageboard wants those types of people.
No.315611
>>315480>the registration system for pol definitely worked in cutting down the crap.lol no.
No.315616
>>315611Okay, so not by YOUR unique definition of crap. But objectively the amount of spam and rapid shitflinging has gone down.
Remember that samefagging was also a huge issue so any idiot with an obscure VPN could pretend to be an entire thread's worth of disagreeing parties. Email and wait times drastically reduces these losers' influence.
No.315621
>>315619The quantitative difference on pol is phenomenal. Before the spam and targeted demoralization was so massive many people were starting to question whether the site had a future. Now it is full of maga campaign people and has nearly as much energy as 2016. I actually wonder if someone paid hiro to outright ball and chain the spammers because the job was so thoroughly done
No.315626
>>315624do you have 5he graphic when the fappening happened?
No.315632
>>315619>>315624You made these charts in GIMP you troll
No.315633
>>315632Check it yourself newfriend
https://4stats.io/ No.315646
>>315633Thanks for the virus
No.315647
>>315624>>315619chart doesn't designate the number of targeted attack shit threads that were being spammed in the catalog. It has gone down significantly, before I would go through 4-5 different blatant demoralization attacks just to check out the catalog. Now it's like 1 or 2, generally ineffective as well since the jannies seem to be aggressively anchoring that kind of crap.
No.315651
>>315647>It has gone down significantlyYou can find at least 4 or 5 right now.
No.315665
>>302963
hobby board such as /tv/ or /sci/ are just as bad as the big ones
No.315666
>>315665>hobby board such as /tv/ or /sci/ are just as bad as the big onesYou know shit is bad when the smaller blue boards are just inundated with spam and psychotics that live on certain keywords.
No.315669
>>302960I like soyjaks. They're grotesque and ugly, yes. But they're in a way a fair representation of what people are deep down.
No.315701
>>315619Your image shows a sharp drop and clear downtrend from July till now. Considering that we're a few days away from the election, which is /pol/'s 4-year peak in post rate, and the posts/day amount is the same as back in May, I'd say that's clear indication that the post rate was being inflated by bad actors and is now organic. Considering the context, your image is proof that the anti-spam system was effective
No.315706
>>315701>I do not know how to read graphs or understand context>therefore the anti-spam system, which came into effect in october, was effectiveWhy are there retards defending 4chan's increasing shittiness?
No.315708
>>315707I moved on to reddit. It's at least better than 4chan.
No.315709
>>315705Imageboards were perfectly fine and self-regulating before normalfags got retard-proof internet access and the whole of the internet started catering to them.
No.315711
>>315709the more something grow attention to people, the less it become elitist
No.315718
>>315705I think the decline is that when millennials aged out zoomers went to other social media. So there wasn't a bulge population of newfrens to keep the thing going. It's the same reason why 8 and wiz are in relative decline as well, not enough fresh blood producing basic informational content. Imageboards could end up like BBS.
No.315777
>>303353>But all intrigue is lost once I see how the posters argument.You took the words out of my mouth.
>It's just disillusioning to be excited to broaden my horizon only to read a bunch of shitposts.Besides pornography, this is one of the reasons I abandoned imageboards.
No.315778
>>3033534chan is arguably among the worst forms of value added content in conversation. You can make the most elaborate op in the world and on most of these boards you're getting a complete crapshot of whatever comes out in terms of returning value. And at the same time people will incrementally act more and more like disruptive jackasses for the hell of it. Which means on most of these boards you're still better off talking to a reputation based community like reddit. Sad but true. The only value on 4chan is seeking out the rare 80th percentile of value-added posters who actually know a great deal on subjects, and just happen to piddle off information here and there like gold nuggets in the rough. So just use the archives and search your keyphrases. Don't actually talk to them for more than briefly, that's a negative investment for returns. And don't browse for more than 30-40 minutes a day, because the catalog is just as bad. You might get a general sense of what's happened in the day or on social media skimming them. You won't learn specifically much of anything
No.315779
>>315718Where are the zoomers now? Telegram? Discords?
No.315780
>>315779I have no idea. I think on their phones doing low cognition activities like tiktok, that's what they seem to be using.
No.315781
>>303420Funniest image in this thread, my long-distance friends loved semen-essence and find it hysterical
No.315782
>>307729Categorizing like that might incur a performance and complexity cost. How about just a set of rules or well-defined heuristics that differ between boards?
No.317617
>>315718yes, we're old now.
No.317619
Too much reactionary stuff. You are better off finding a thread and sticking into it while you do something else than endlessly refreshing the catalog.
No.317669
>>302969Do you suggest mental pollution is contagious and image boards should be kept from the public at large?
Interesting.
I've also long since believed the discourse of a 'schizo', well, what people like calling 'schizos', exactly like you pointed out, are actually more potently capable of effecting the brain better than anything else, programming it to think in certain modules.
You say wizchan is the same, but I would like someone to give a more concrete comparison between, say, what you feel after browsing (and internalizing) /dep/ and the other wiz boards, and browsing 4chan's /pol/ or others.
Well, it's anecdotal, but I knew a couple of normal guys who went unhinged after /pol/. PHD's and linguists study the site and start feeling shitty and lunatic after doing it long enough
Guess the brain's evolution didn't select for navigating oceans of data and thousands of rapidly conflicting opinions. People like coherency and positive simple thinking. Certainly not the channers who are prophets of killing standard worldviews.
Just how much is a life changed after visiting 4chan, wizchan, or any other chan?
No.317691
>>317669Not that guy, but consider:
false information, however trivial, will likely be retained at a surface level and can be exploited obliquely. Saturate someone with ten thousand tiny errors or intentional misrepresentations that they aren't paying attention to, e.g. "Coconuts Don't Migrate", and you prime them to be "shocked" or perhaps better "jolted" by a big vivid idea which casts their old misinformation into doubt. E.g. coconuts were not native to the majority of tropical islands they are found on, and legitimately do float over the ocean to grow and flourish in new territory. I made that up.
The reader is forced into a different mental state - likely becoming more suspicious and hostile. Even at this tiny level. Imagine what intentional and practised thought engineering looks like, not even mentioning The Algorithm. Even offline you'll meet folks who effortlessly live in that mindset of immediately provoking a reflex to what and how they communicate, which most of them will use to their advantage or amusement.
If we assume determinism - that free will is a joke not everyone is smart enough to get - then _everything_ affects the mind, some more than others, and without a constructed and intentional filter (and consider who would design and teach how to use such a thing - and what their motivations might be) and you wind up with justified paranoia and some form of mental malfunction.
No.317708
>>317669Probably a lot. I read a statistic that less than 1% of visitors to any site actively contribute anything. Over 99,5% are passive consumers looking to pass time.
When I did use Reddit (sure, shoot me) I realized my random brain fart posts had +100k viewers in 12 hours and of those, about 1000 upvoted, and 100 posted a comment.
An imageboard or reddit regular who can formulate half-legible sentences has a disproportionate amount of mental influence on ordinary minds.
Remember, even if you don't actively "follow" the confent you read or see, it does stay in your subconscious forever and shapes your thought processes.
People on wizchan always joked about glowies and CIA agents. But I'm stunned by their inability to see this larger picture of indirect mind control.
They just flat out discount anonymous spaces as "a few weird otakus spamming anime pictures and lamenting their loneliness" without realizing hundreds of millions of people passively read these spaces.
Anonymous political discussion boards and the ideas/memes they spawn are one reason why Trump was first elected in 2016.
No.317712
>>317669I reckon, following the examples of
>>317691 and
>>317708, a follow up is necessary.
An anthropologist called Edward Sapir would establish something called 'linguistic relativity' throughout his time, in which he posited, not unlike Orwell, that language establishes reality, and not the other way around. Now, where the two differed, and what makes Edward more peculiar, was in his suggestion of what it takes to better achieve conditioning.
He would explore, in a way, where precisely a gap in the cognition of people really existed, something that could better be the target of exploitation, and this he believed had to be there, an unalterable hole-element of the psyche, a 'backdoor' not unlike ones in actual programs where hacking could transpire.
So, to him, the brain was actually a deliberately defectively designed organ.
Again, throughout life, in his studies, he determined- that the overwhelming many were in 'too great a constant flux of accepting rights and wrongs', repeatedly changing views, until the capacity to 'do it' would altogether extinguish, whereupon a person would become 'flat'. Yes, the ability to discern in and of itself, like plasticity, is of limited ammo, and its availability would be directly proportional to ones verbal intelligence.
He claimed, therefore, that exposure to excessive education and opposing views don't actually strengthen the ability to extract proper truths in one, but instead accelerates the process by which a person becomes 'flat'.
To that end, the production of a more servile persons would only require their exposure to as much information as possible, irrespective of whether its content would be hostile to the experimenters objectives.
You see, after all, a 'flat' person, no longer able to possess an internal scrutiny, having exhausted the ability to do so, defers to the authority of what a group conceives, even if intuitively he might consider it wrong, and more importantly: he reduces entirely the ability to enact on that which he naturalistically knows, owing to interacting with his potential truths in a manner intangible. Ideal doesn't even attempt stepping into the threshold of reality.
Too much information inverts the intended purpose of informing.
At any rate, this and some other musings are all beside the point of this messages interest.
Edward Sapir, ultimately, thought of language like a virus, and as effective as it was in coordinating thought, it needed what all viruses need best: an external medium, a vehicle for its transmission, for just as a human coughs and spread, and many too an other innumerable way do viruses scatter, language had to have something similar.
To that end, he would combine (and uncover) it with things tangible and intangible, looking for the best vehicle; music, flashes of light, gestures in a person… and of course, images too. Pictures. Drawings. Paintings.
Here, a few realizations were made, but I'll omit them in prioritization of the primary point.. again.
Out of all the 'vehicles' most compatible with spreading the virus of language, he realized… images were most perfect, in fact so agreeable that it should've been obvious, that of course its presence would compensate the absence of an inability to visualize what might be suggested by words, yet not so clear.
Above all, given associative thinking, an inherent framework cognition operates in, and an image being easier remembered explicitly (consciously vs sub-consciously) rather than implicitly, the virus called language would have everything it needs to both hit its intended target, and nestle in long enough that it could no longer be uprooted.
And so, while he couldn't possibly know it in his time, he would, bluntly put, warn against the threat of image boards: an interesting domain that synthesizes imagery, and language, electing to coordinate their fusion in a very engineered fashion.
Such a combination would be the necessary components required to break into -and past- the brain's backdoor.
The defection lied there.
While Reddit selectively dulls your ability to entertain what it considers disagreeable, and diminishes your range of thought, because it basically promotes newspeak, 4chan and other chans attack and really distort character itself, such that rather than 'dulling', choose to explicitly repudiate, or instill, given notions or ethos in totality.
That is why a black Sudanese person can visit /pol/ and become a white nationalist who shoots his school in fervent protection of the Aryan race.
Or why the language of zoomers escapes into their professional and actual life.
Or even why entire several cultures exist.
Even if determinism doesn't exist from the get-go, you're eventually taken to a lane subscribed to its effect by visiting especially 4chan, and many places across the net.
Mental pollution is definitely contagious.
No.317713
>>317708I guess it is quite evident you use reddit lol. Would've thought so even if you didn't say it, you know, with the decision to use the term 'brain fart', the spacing, the choice of words…
That's fine I guess, and well, as Yuri Bezmenov said, indoctrination and subversion don't really care about your awareness of it, when at any rate you'll be subject to its manipulation and transformed into a demoralized agent. Everyone who watched the guys interview and thought "I'm safe now." is probably being controlled, one way or another.
There's no such thing as winning against any 'forces', or any 'battles' taking place, because they -the people in control- exist in an indefinite state of victory, and have won everything, and will do whatever they desire with impunity, which makes me wonder why /pol/ or anyone everywhere screeches so much at 'owning' their perceived opponents.
What are you happy for? a façade of a victory they've given you for entertainment? a fabrication of a loss?
Seriously, from the perspective of the top who looks down on humanity, everyone must be a literal retard jumping whenever they play a beat, even the people expressing anger at doing so. In fact that type probably jumps the highest.
It's just brainwashing all the way down.
You call out names, and feel smug in doing so, but you're the same retard dancing to the same song every retard is.
It's impossible to even think of a life that doesn't have propaganda in it somewhere, and that's how you can accept, and raise the white flag.
I'm not even sure if my beliefs are mine, if my thinking is really my own, or if my predilections are the product of advertisements, fake internet communities that are unaware of their linguistic programming, or something natural.
And now I know why I reflexively act to certain things
>>317691 or why I feel distanced from them too.
Fuck.
No.317723
>>317719Why do the tax police have SS hats? Nazi Germany's taxes on property and gains were non-existent compared to all other European countries of the time.
No.317728
Are there any real humans left on 4chan? I'm fairly certain at least 90% of the posts are artificially generated.
No.317729
>>317712You're clearly a coherent thinker.
My approach to it was from the principle that an idea needs a shape before it's actionable - thus pre-packaged shapes lead to conformist ideas when blasted at high volume.
If you've got more than a passing interest in this field I recommend Sugrue's summary treatment of Wittgenstein - and the notion that will *is* language
No.317757
>>317723Because they were still an authoritarian thing. As taxes are.
And remember that lefties around here will only be more npc goyslopped about history no matter how much you try to open their eyes
No.317786
>>302960It depresses me cause 4chan is one of my favorite sites. I've been posting on it since my /b/ days of early 2000s. Now it's nothing but shitposting, rage bait and offtopic drama. It makes me sick.
No.317791
>>317788The mods decide which thing triumphs and which get ghost banned. If you do not understand something and it is full of shit and neglective care, it's normie. Without failure
No.317792
>>315707I finally stopped posting on 4chan about three months ago and started posting here but not very frequently. I am searching for meaning in a world that wants nothing more than to deny me a reason to exist. When I leave my room for extended periods of time, people mostly just become afraid and want to send me back to my cell.
No.317793
>>317791Yeah, the reason nobody responds to your shit threads is because you're ghost bannedx
>>317792>I am searching for meaning in a world that wants nothing more than to deny me a reason to existThat's like getting angry at a water fountain for not cutting your hair. Life isn't meant to give you purpose. You are. Make purpose for yourself.
>people mostly just become afraid and want to send me back to my cell.Paranoid schizophrenia.
Watch this video.
No.317823
>>315707I feel like this with the internet as a whole. I grew up with shitposting, memes, YTP, etc. And it just feels all gone. Fed to the algorithm. You can still find bits and pieces, but they are even more fleeting than it was on imageboards. Reddit, twitter, 4chan, youtube, even tiktok are just the equivalent of tv static that sometimes has 30 seconds of clarity that shows a reality tv show. And when I go out into the real world, it just circles me back to the internet. Everything has a discord, a mailing list, a telegram group, a whatsapp, etc. Human relationships even seem confined to tinder, hinge, bumble, etc. People aren't even very interesting in the first place. So I just keep playing my 15 year old video games. Everything is wrong.
No.317834
>>317823Same. I basically only consume 10-30 year old movies, shows and games.
Emulators are the only way forward. The present feels bizarre and wrong with all the microtransactions and political agendas.
No.317836
>>317823Absolutely agree. The apocalypse already happened
No.317846
4chan is unusable today.
No.317847
>>317846I hope /vg/ will remain the last board
No.317848
>>317847Same, I browse to many different video game generals.
No.317850
>>317849And now you gotta talk in leetspeek on the site. This is one of the worst april fools events ever.
No.317851
>>317850I just want it over at this point
No.317852
>>317851Another 5 hours till midnight, got a feeling it's gonna last longer than that. I love wizchan but this place is dead 90% of the time, I need 4chan to fill the void in my neet life.
No.317853
>>317852> I love wizchan but this place is dead 90% of the time, I need 4chan to fill the void in my neet lifeI also love wizchan but I know why you like 4chad too. it's because it is faster, therefore your posts are answered quickly while on wizchan you must wait like 1 day to get answers because it is slow. I/you also like 4chad because of the fast answers (more people) and it give us a shot of dopamine because someone noticed our post and also (You)s. but wizchan being slow is also good
No.317854
>>317853Yeah, I agree with ya. Here's hoping things go back to normal soon.
No.317855
>>317854>Here's hoping things go back to normal soon.like you said in 5h 👍
No.317971
So Hiro got hacked and the hackers brought back /qa/ and made a sticky on /v/. Now 4chan is down.
No.317972
>>317971I honestly thought the /qa/ being back thing was genuine, then saw the /int/ posts with hiro calling himself a faggot nigger. Awww shieet man, honestly surprised it took this long.
So uh, about the data leaks……………………………………….
No.317973
>>317972I kept trying to make a thread on /qa/, hyped thinking it was legit. But it just kept saying "The site is down for maint". Despite others making threads.
>data leakswhat?
No.317974
>>317973They doxed a bunch of mods/jannies and supposedly leaked some or all of the 4chan pass holders info
No.317976
>>317975Isn't that something.
No.317977
>>317973>kept saying "The site is down for maint".lol same
Do you think it was really the sharty? Im not sure
No.317978
4chan is honeypot.
No.317983
>>317974>>317974Oh damn. glad I never bothered with a pass. Also I just woke up and 4chad is still down, holy shit.
No.317985
>>317984I hope for the best for you wiz.
No.317986
>>317984do they have all post history you've made?
No.317987
>>317984How do passes even work? Do you gotta log in to use it or something? That alone would make me weary, giving a chan an email and all that.
No.317988
>>317986Of course they do kek. I got banned once from their IRC for asking this same question.
>>317987They give you a pin and token and you just login using those. HOWEVER, the email you used while creating the pass gets logged in a database too.
No.317994
>Private reason
Good fucking riddance.
No.317997
>>317977It was the sharty
No.317999
>>317997Speaking of the sharty, it looks like their site is also crashing now from all the traffic.
No.318001
>>318000it feels hard to believe doesnt it, including the prospect of it shutting down forever. in retrospective, like a fever dream. i seriously do not understand why it has taken so long for this to happen, considering it seems it was not secure in the slightest so that even soy script kiddies could do it
>free speechif there is one thing i hope comes out of all this, its an investigation (fucking lmao) into the moderation team. i cannot count how many times i witnessed and was victim of favoritism, way too many instances where i reported e-whores for breaking rules and getting myself banned instead for "misusing the report function".
and, well, the main reson this came to be: trannies were in charge. /qa/ only got locked because a bunch of ACK-ers ACK-ed when /qa/ raided /lgbt/. let that sink it, mods and hiro himself sided with trannies over soyteens. even if youre not a fan of soy, you never side with troons you understand what im saying? im siding with shartyteens so far. it was a joke that went top far, locking the board i mean
>same threads with the same replies over and over again.literally the same people too. you could spend a day on any board and any general and it wouldnt be long before you learned of several longstanding spammers or banevaders that had been camping there for DECADES. just because theyre mentally ill enough to spend thousands on VPNs. then further spiralling down site quality
do you think this will cause other IBs to reconsider their jakkieposting policies? No.318002
Isn't soyjak admin a literal 14-16 year old TEEN? how does he take down all the oldfags is he a coding genius like hotwheelz was or something
No.318003
>>318000>>318001they're not gonna let 4chins die anytime soon, worst case is it back up in 2 weeks or so, its too important historically, also if anything this will just cull a bunch of tourists and discord jannies due to everyone now knowing the bullshit going on, 4chins starting the year off with some spring cleaning
No.318004
>>318003I used /biz a lot. Now I'm not sure how to fill that niche.
No.318005
Greetings wizards. Came by on my 4chan is down pilgrimage to see how you're all doing. It's a good excuse to get out and visit the neighbors again, probably gonna go hit up sushi next.
No.318006
>>318005>how you're all doingBored as fuck, just sitting here watching the sharty thread on this hack.
No.318007
>>318006I hope it stays dead at this point. Place has outlived it's charm longer than the simpsons. We could use literally any other image board and the only thing that ever stopped us was wanting to be where the traffic is.
No.318011
>>318008Same here I realized I'm not the target audience for anime anymore, looking back at it most of it was just slop with a different flavor.
There's only about 20 animes worth watching made in the past 50 years anyway, and they are all in the recommended charts anyway, you're not missing out anything.
No.318013
>>318002The story that's going around at the moment is an insider leaked that the 4chan server is running a decade old OS with tons of known vulnerabilities. A sufficiently motivated script kiddie could crack that in a day.
No.318014
>>318007>We could use literally any other image board and the only thing that ever stopped us was wanting to be where the traffic is.I terminally online and tend to post a lot, so it would turn into downright spam if I posted on a low traffic website at the same rate I did there. Posting from actual account gives me panic attacks.
>>318008Same really, I just feel drained 9 minutes into anime episode and can't continue. Next day I forget most of what happened in the episode. Manga is the only otaku thing I enjoy. Only used /a/ for years.
No.318016
>>318014I think manga can only truly be considered "otaku" at this point if you're engaging with new things anyways. Desperately sifting through old media is pretty much what everyone is doing.
No.318018
>>318013I think it was about the PHP version and not the OS, and the way it communicates with the database. PHP is the scripting language that runs 4chan's backend and old versions are notoriously insecure. But then a question must be asked: if it was so insecure for such a long time, then why does this only happen now?
No.318019
>>318018I have a feeling I know why it was so insecure. Hiro sold user data from his first imageboard he made in Japan before he bought 4chan, right? Wouldn't it be easier to harvest 4chan user data from old scripting?
No.318023
>>318022WTF? I did not post that, I don't even have that image saved on my PC.
No.318025
>>318023It was posted earlier in the thread
>>317988 so you probably accidentally copypasted it which happens more than you might think
No.318026
>>318022Yeah, you're probably right. He could probably do it regardless of code.
>>318023I think you just accidentally dragged tumbnail of that pic into files field.
No.318028
>>318027See you next week on 4chan
No.318029
just when i have to fucking use /x/ it shuts down, what a luck
No.318030
>>3180284chan isn't coming back.
No.318031
so where's the funeral gonna be held? because obviously the entire internet is gonna care and blow up on this
No.318032
>>318031It's not really gone right ? I mean like it's just a slight bump because i really need /x/
No.318033
>>318032what do you need x for anon…?
also im 50/50 on if this is permanent or not, i haven't felt this level of cosmic energy this year since 2016
No.318034
>>318033I talk with like minded retards a lot, I love talking about esoteric bullshit but fuck now the only escapanade is gone
No.318035
>>318032They leaked source code, staff info and info of people who supported it monetarily through pass. They fucked up big time, it won't end in a couple days or weeks, it's very questionable if it'll go back up.
No.318036
>>318032I got the feeling it's going to stay dead. Hiro doesn't care, mods got scared, their sourcecode leaking means they will have to rebuild from scratch. Some kiwitroons were sugesting no backups might exist (not surprised at all). Even if it comes back it will be extra lobotomized, pozzed and botted up.
No.318037
>>318034lmao all you got now are crystal mommies and witch faggotry, maybe this is your chance to get a witch gf
No.318038
>>303254>I hate how so many threads are provocative VERY thinly veiled rage bait posts with wording that pisses me off.This killed entire boards on that website, including /o/ (though that board also died because car culture was brutally raped and murdered by every force imaginable the past 10 years).
I always thought the internet became more and more adversarial since the culture war started, and 4chan became so around 2017 or so. That's when post quality massively dipped and the buzzword spam kicked in. Eventually you couldn't even have an actual conversation and threads would derail.
It's the fate of everything that's popular. You either fade into irrelevancy or become foul.
No.318040
>>318037nah fuck them man, fuck where i'll get my daily schizo freemasonic informations
No.318041
>>318040Guess we'll have to wait and see if another altchand rises or takes the spot if 4chan really is gone for good.
No.318045
>>318004Yeah, idk any biz alternatives either.
No.318046
>>318036>Hiro doesn't care, mods got scared, their sourcecode leaking means they will have to rebuild from scratch.You might be into something here, I just remembered the last half-site "accidental" wipe that happened like 2 months ago. Around half the boards got reset, just like that and with zero explanation. Those guys really had no idea what they were doing, and the only people willing to take "care" of it at that point were, to nobodys surprise, literal troon infiltrators with an agenda.
>Even if it comes back it will be extra lobotomized, pozzed and botted up.Most likely, yeah. I was thinking a moment ago about how this could be nepobaby king Zion Musks chance to make a comeback after the long list of recent failures. He buys the site, instantly becomes le based with the unironic boomer Q crowd
No.318047
>>318046Would Musky really risk buying 4chan? Sure he's right wing, but doing that would really cement him as a far-right neo-nazi.
No.318048
>>318033>also im 50/50 on if this is permanent or notAccording to modern astrology, yes
No.318049
>>318047>Sure he's right wingHe is not, by any stretch. Everything from his company's hiring practices to his opinions about allowed speech are left.
No.318050
>>318049True, I guess in I mean "In the eyes of the public he's right wing".
No.318052
>>318027The ones who hacked it are the soyjak spammers, though.
No.318053
>>318052Funny enough the soyjak spammers website is down now. Or it is for me.
No.318054
>>318046>instantly becomes le based with the unironic boomer Q crowdThe site has plenty of boomers
No.318056
>>318053These are peak american hours. The site probably couldn't take all the traffic.
No.318057
>>318056Wonder what 3rd world host the sharty is based on.
No.318058
>>318047I honestly think he would. He cares about PR shit a lot, as if him larping about being le epic gaymer wasn't enough proof, and then being outed once again as a fraud.
>as a far-right neo-nazi.Him buying it doesn't necessarily mean he agrees with the far-right. He could just do it to clean it up, specially the alleged anti-semitism.
I think people often forget the agenda 2030 shit is no joke. As much as I hate the prospect of it happening, tell me why would both powerful people and users themselves insist on being anonymous on the internet? For power and control structures it's obvious why, but for users it's a more nuanced situation. Much has been said about how 4chan decayed but you have to step back and think for a second what kind of user is attracted to anonymity in this day and age. There's just… no growth, or change.
This is why all altchans eventually die from inactivity. 4chan had that and that made it unique. I think that will happen is they will keep 4chan offline for a while, then bring it back just right when refugees start settling elsewhere so they keep fracturing the remaining splinters and communities more and more.
>>3180544chan? yeah, i know. Fucking reddit 2016 election tourists were the nail in the coffin
>>318057Maybe Brazil lmao, but seriously don't underestimate them. Isn't wizdmin Brazilian too?
No.318059
>>303812>Now if you don't fit in on a dozen or so popular sites it's like you've been kicked off the Internet.I think part of the reason 4chan has been so bad over the past few years is because it's the only big site left for the insufferable people that aren't tolerated elsewhere.
No.318061
both 8chans just fucking died under the traffic holy fuck
No.318062
>>318058Yeah, I guess he could and might do it. Would be weird how he'd openly own the "evil white supremacy" website. But I guess he just wouldn't care.
>>3180618chan is still around?
No.318063
>>318061Speaking of 8chan, why is the moe variant filled with beaners? last time i visited the site it was nothing but LATAM shit
No.318065
>>318061Thats why its so slow?
>bothThere are 2?
No.318066
>>318041History in the making.
No.318067
>>3180658kun and .moe
seems 8kun is back up but it was unresponsive for like a hour, .moe is straight up dead, can't load it at all
No.318068
>>318065>There are 2?8kun (the original 8chan) and 8moe which was made to get away from the Qshit
No.318070
Sounds like 4chan hashed the e-mails of pass users at least.
No.318071
I need my sloopa porn back
No.318072
>>318070do they know my password of my email?
No.318073
>>318072I don't think they even know the address. It gets converted into a cryptographic hash when you register.
No.318074
>>318070Yeah, so the keyfile to de-hash them is all that is needed, and it is already out.
Guys, if you every gave ANY information to 4chan, it is now made public and attached to your IP comeplete time timestamps and even what browser you were using. You are FUCKED.F U C K E D, I SAY No.318075
>>318074Is a trip considered info? I used a trip a few times for generals on 4chan years ago. Only for a thread at a time.
No.318076
>>318074Good think I'm a NEET with nothing to lose.
Nothing bad can happen to NEETs, ever.
We're aristocracy.
No.318077
>>318074I haven't checked but does it go as far as deanonymizing all posts? IP in my area get rotated anyways, sometimes I get ban notices for posts I didn't make.
No.318078
>>318074B-browser you say!?
Damn, I've made some really embarrassing posts lately. I have dynamic IP so fat chance they can't be traced back to me but who knows brother.
No.318079
>>318075I was talking about this on Kissu. You can't normally have a trip on the Sharty. At first I thought the hacker might be a mod but maybe he got his trip during an event. But yeah it's not looking good.
Was going to post a screenshot bus Kissu is down lol.
No.318082
>>318061in my day we went to 7chan
No.318083
>>318063Hispachan died in 2022 and they sought refugee there. Since most of the 8chan main users (qanons and gamergate) had moved on to kun by then, the latam users settled comfortably.
No.318084
>>318082I was surprised when I checked 7chan a few hours after 4chan died and there weren't even any threads about it yet, I guess that place really is dead
No.318085
>>318078That's great news. It means 4chan is too irrelevant for anyone to give a shit about our dox.
No.318086
>>318074That's not how hashing works. It's a "one-way function" i.e. a function where it's much easier (less computationally expensive) to get a result than it is to reverse the process and get the input back from the result. There's no keyfile to unhash anything, that would be encryption and not hashing. It's easy to test if an email matches by hashing it and testing against an existing hash, but reversing a hash into email is not really feasible. The best methods for it are only slightly better than brute force. That's why it's more secure than simply storing emails in plaintext. 4chan doesn't need to have any idea about what your pass email is until you enter it into a form field, at which point it can hash it and check if it matches the hash in its database to let you log in as a pass user.
That said, if the website really was as outdated as everyone says then it's possible that they used hash functions that aren't very computationally demanding on modern hardware and cracking them will be relatively easy. It's also very easy to cross-check those hashes with other known email leak data.
No.318087
>>318084The writing was on the wall for 7chan when they got rid of the ban on outsider memes.
No.318088
https://www.hikari3.ch/ here, go there 4channers
No.318089
Almost no talk about it on X, other than people pointing out the obvious (massive amount of Israel IP posts and bots)
No.318090
lmao 4chins kicks it on eka's portals anniversary
idk whether to celebrate or grieve
No.318091
>>318074Is the verification email exposed? I don't understand this issue, they know my IP and my email then ?
No.318092
>>318091>they know my IP and my email then ?Of course. What would be the point of collecting those things if they didn't keep records?
No.318093
I hope that with the downfall of 4chan more people will start to use the /jp/ board here, I always preferred the discourse without normalfag talking points ruining it
No.318094
>>318092also the password for that email ?
No.318095
>>318093Are we allowed to talk about kaijus on /jp/?
No.318096
>>318095Our /jp/ only really prohibits
- Vtubers, due to them being real succubi
- Korean / Chinese / Other "Anime-inspired" non-Japanese media
- General anti-Japanese sentiment that could come of as trolling targeted at those interested in /jp/ subcultures.
No.318098
>>318096Thanks for clearing that up. Made a thread. Would we be allowed to talk about American adaptations of kaiju movies on /jp/, like the Monsterverse movies? They are of Japanese IPs, but in a western twist.
No.318099
>>318098should have made your thread on lounge
No.318100
>>318097>Would we be allowed to talk about American adaptations of kaiju movies on /jp/, like the Monsterverse movies?I don't see why not, so long as they're not original creations by non-Japanese writers or aren't made at least in part by a Japanese studio
No.318101
>>318099Well, it's Japanese so I thought it'd be more fitting for the Japanese board.
>>318100Well that's a little tricky. The movies feature Godzilla (Japanese in origin) and Kong (American in origin). Maybe the other anon is right and it should be on lounge?
No.318103
>>318101There is a successive movies thread on /hob/ where I think that Kong movie was posted about before
No.318104
>>318097where is this from?
No.318105
>>318103Oh, I'll be honest I never go to /hob/ since my hobbies are really just video games, monster movies and image boards.
No.318107
So what is the official replacement for 4chan?
Where did everyone go?
No.318108
>>318096>- Vtubers, due to them being real succubiThe real problem with vtubers is not that the succubi are real succubi, but that the fandom is 50% made up of /cgl/ demons(succubi)
No.318109
>>318000>>318001I hope it comes back and continues to act as a containment site for retards.
>free speechHaven't been a thing for a decade and a half. I've been banned by jannies getting their feelings hurt countless times.
No.318110
>10632781
No.318111
>>318108/vt/ is the one thing i will not miss
No.318112
>>318106you posted a kiwifarms screencap so maybe you should fuck off back to there
No.318113
>>318106slower imageboards are more comfy imo
No.318114
>>318112I don't visit this place on a regular basis. I only came there today to get news on what was happening with 4chan. Kiwifarms community doesn't really appeal to me
>>318113Yeah, they are nice but I also need my F5 slop for my dopamine addiction
No.318117
>>318115>scroll down>think the cancer cant get any worse>get to the bottomooooooooooh, so 8kun is the one owned by the slimy rat Jim Watkins, you know im going to blacklist that shithole, 8moe doesnt seem so bad
funny how people in that thread are talking as if 4chans death was certain
No.318121
I will accept the recent turn of events as some kind of divine monkey's paw wish fulfillment of finally being free from 4chan. Feels like being released from prison but now I have a felony conviction on my record.
No.318127
>>318107Scattered to winds, across a dozen or so different altchans.
No.318128
>>318107It looks like 4chan is officially in the process of being restored, so it doesn't really matter. wizchan is wizchan as always, but the main big takeaway I've gotten from this is that all the current altchans that get hyped up totally suck ass.
No.318129
>>318128i think ill stick around more frequently here even if 4chuds gets restored, it seems slightly more sane here despite not covering the full spectrum of specific topics my autism demands discussions of
No.318130
All posters from continental Africa, and posters from China, as well Antarctica, are seemingly flagged with 'most especially dangerous'. It's a given for Antarctica, but Africa? I guess it's abnormal and rather alarming if say, a Somalian is merrily posting away on /pol/, or a Kenyan in Turkana somehow is on the site. Somehow.
China's the usual.
No.318131
>>318107looks like 8kun mostly
8moe is deader than this place and should be, we are not moving to mexichan
>>318128where'd you hear that?
No.318132
>>318130Posters from Japan and the entire middle east - specifically, certain parts… are also flagged crimson red. I didn't think Japanese posters would merit that.
No.318134
>>318131the 4chan twitter, for the first time in 3 years, made a post.
No.318135
>>318133I don't believe goot for a second.
>>318134I forgot they even had one.
No.318136
>>318135>I don't believe goot for a second. Don't forget he paid actually money for that place. It's pretty illogical to think it'd just be tossed aside imo
No.318137
>>318136and he's been bleeding money since, hence the blueboards
pretty sure the only thing that kept him going is sunken costs fallacy
No.318138
>>318137how much money does it realistically take to operate a site like 4chan though?
No.318140
>>318138Four and a half grand a month in 2022 dollars
No.318143
>>318106>Where do I go nowBack to your doxxing and harassment site.
No.318147
I'm surprised no one here is discussing the fact that jews are obviously preparing a massive false flag that will trigger a war between ZOG America/Europe and ZOG China. I was just watching the movie "The Departed" a couple days back, and about mid-way through the film the character of the old american police captain is made to say "We will be at war with China in 20 some odd years." This film was made in 2006. We know jews trigger wars based on ~30 year cycles because they worship Saturn.
WW1 – Lusitania false flag
WW2 – Pearl Harbor false flag
Vietnam – Gulf of Tonkin false flag
Iraq – 9/11 false flag
I think the shutting down of 4chan has to do with preventing narrative-endangering analysis of the coming false flag – not just a general tightening of censorial control.
No.318148
>>318047he's a jewish actor playing a role.
No.318149
>>318148> jewish actor playing a rolethat sentence contains like three redundancies
No.318150
I'm frankly getting annoyed at the amount of retarded normalfaggots who are coming out of the woodwork to step on their "shit no one cares about" soapbox and proclaim that 4chan is full of losers, hasn't been relevant in years, is just constant shitflinging, yadda yadda yadda.
It's not just normies, it's everyone. You go on any forum discussing this right now and they're whining about some nebulous "exodus" that they'll have to deal with in the future. KiwiFarms in particular, they all sound like disgruntled succubi trying to act smug about a recent breakup.
These individuals don't have to romanticize a site known for being autistic and depraved, but maybe they should take a step back and ask if they're genuinely too irony poisoned to realize the long-term ramifications of anonymity becoming an unsustainable prospect on the nu-Internet. Of course, they're braindead and arrogant, so they'd sooner rope than entertain a possibility. 4chan MUST be the enemy to them, even if they used it in the past, or Hell, were using it prior to this hack taking place.
No.318151
>>318150>KiwiFarms in particular, they all sound like disgruntled succubi Isn't most of the kiwifarms actual succubi though?
No.318153
>>318150>KiwiFarms in particular, they all sound like disgruntled succubi trying to act smug about a recent breakuphaha like we'd be caught dead there
I came here before I ever considered going there
while I am curious about which pissholes are fellating themselves hard enough to entertain the notion that we'd ever set up shop in their cultural podunks, I won't waste a single click to go find out
No.318154
>>318149Actor is not implied by jew, nor is the role of a fake governmental official implied by the usual meaning of actor.
No.318155
>>318154lighten up francis just a bit of /pol/ humor
No.318187
Well, it seems that OP finally can find some peace and quiet.
No.318193
>>303302>>317669>>317691>>317712Thank heaven the site's dead. I'm never returning, and this time there's no immediate access to obstruct me.
It take's 1 week for a habit to kick in, ergo 1 week of no 4chan is enough. That'll kick me outta it.
What a hellhole of a place.
No.318195
>>318193Shouldn't you abstain from all imageboards?
No.318196
>>318147yes
wizards will be called to pull apart the (((magician's))) new round of tricks.
No.318200
Sounds like the hackers at most obtained financial info from pass holders but they don't want to get gaped by the FBI so they aren't releasing it. The claims about obtaining users posts and IP addresses and .gov jannies remain dubious.
No.318206
>>318150>>318151I've lurked around various sites to see people's reactions, everyone's holier-than-thou behaviour is hilarious. Especially the kiwiniggers whose thread is moving at the speed of an active 4chan board, where people are at the same time as they're celebrating that the evil boogeyman 4chan is dead, also being hysterical over refugees and begging for registrations to be closed. The refugees themselves claim to be so old that they've been on 4chan since 2020 or later lmao.
But then again, it is a gossip site, of course they are going to act like hysterical succubi.
No.318210
This just sucks. I don't know what to do with my free time now. I post on both 4chad and here, I love both places. All these other places are pretty slow or near dead.
No.318211
>>318210Im feeling the withdrawal as well.
4chins was my go to for when i wanted reccommendations for books, anime and vidya as well as disposable, quick discussion.
I hate that almost every other site / forum requires an account.
it always turns into some weird circle jerk with power tripping mods and a online 'clique' of regular posters.
No.318213
>>318211I'm mainly just depressed knowing it will come back before I can overcome my addiction. I want to be free.
No.318217
>>318210>>3182114chins will be back. See it like a ban, it's what it feels like.
>>318213Protip for when it does come back, if you want to turn a crippling addiction to a less frequent habit: If you disagree with someone, or think someone has shit taste, show it and call him a nigger/faggot/tranny/kike/whatever fitting slur. You might upset a janny and get thrown in the slammer for a couple of days to a week. Use the freedom to get used to not go there every day.
No.318221
>>318219likewise
I hate that place and what it did to me.
No.318227
>>318217The jannies actually seem to know I am addicted and never ban me. If I call someone a troon, it seems like I start getting gangstalked but basically never banned. I went for years with no bans. They want to demoralize me to the greatest extent possible.
Haven't posted for months but I can't stop lurking so far.
No.318228
If nothing else, I've been able to have a proper look at myself and realise I'm properly addicted to 4chan.
I keep clicking my shortcuts out of habit.
No.318259
Why is this thread bump locked?