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>>313370
>no fap has no long term health benefits
Ok, stopped reading there. Glows too hard

>attached counterargument

>>313402
woo woo anti-rational nonsense.

>>313405
Poor thing. Coom must have fucked him up so tough he cannot even understand a letter

>>313400

>psychology is a soft science, so if you have hundreds of thousands of people in nofap and %98 of people have positive feedback on it

what is the positive feedback? what problem that you are sure i am having is solved by nofap? what does it improve?

not once have i seen you made a reasonable case for why you talk so much about nofap. there must be a reason for why you are so addicted to talking about this and you have yet to share it. spill it. what is it? why are you making so much wind about this?

if whether or not you nut makes such a big difference to you that you can not stop talking about it, i question you and everything you stand for.

>>313407
>>313407
It's about our private battles against aging and neurodegenerative diseases, mostly.

>>313408
>Better yet, why dont you turn into a scientist and see if it works or not?

sometimes i fap multiple times a week, sometimes a week goes by without fapping i don't believe it makes a significant difference. i don't feel better or worse in either case, it does not influence my life. i don't like succubi, i don't wanna bring a kid in this fucked up place, sexuality is very unimportant in my life.

there are dudes who are very unbalanced, very much led around by the nose by his emotions, very much unconscious, not thinking for himself, looking for validation, never got that hug, always craving intimacy with others, repressed, unfulfilled, nervous. to guys like that orgasms are very precious. not to me, i already feel pretty good most of the time, a few seconds of concentrated nervous center activity don't mean much to me. when someone places that much value on orgasms, i keep wondering if that person is unbalanced.

i guess i come to different conclusion though. i think someone unbalanced like that should orgasm often to blow off steam so to speak. to help relax and uncringe from their shitlife. to someone unbalanced like i believe orgasms to be almost a form of therapy that helps them.

i can not fathom what makes you think that bottling up this strong urge that someone has, will make any kind of positive benefit. don't you know that age and wisdom will stop that pot from boiling automatically?

>>313410
>It's about our private battles against aging and neurodegenerative diseases, mostly.

heh yall omnivores with your limited budget of nervous system energy are funny to me. if only there was a way to have enough nervous system energy to use more of your brain, the way the tool-inventing ape was meant to exist…

>>313407
i talk about it because i want other wizzies have awareness about it.

>what are the benefits
image explains basically. im not gonna walltext you about a topic that already discussed billion times.

basically if you don't want to improve your life you don't need nofap.
wizzies didn't get this, if you live "eat / waste time on computer / sleep" cycle and you happy about it, you don't need this.

>>313426
well keep your secrets then. i don't think you are telling everything.

you felt better, there are a few ways to feel good.

i wonder what would have happened if you found feeling good through meditation and actually stuck with it and understood that you choose your mood like you choose what song to listen to.

lol maybe you fapped so much that you became malnutritioned from having to produce so much sperm all the time.

>>313427
>>313425
Is anyone really reading this troll at this point?

Guys the three soul groups experience the benefits at different rates. For pneumatics it's days for hylic NPCs who the fuck knows how long

>>313429

i'm torn on this, it doesn't impress me but also i don't want to poop on your party or deny/ruin your beneficial experience.

i meant what i said about meditation though. when you do it a bit, you'll find there is interesting stuff hidden in the complete absence of stress. it's like a completely different life buried in sitting around trying to not think. as the thinking subsides, capacity frees up and the sensory apparatus lights up again. most people believe their nerves are only to transmit pain but when you meditate a bit, you find that there is also the state of pleasantness where every nerve just becomes a thing that can feel good all the time for no reason.

your semen retention sound like a fart compared to that, though farts are nice too.

>>313432
>i don't want to poop on your party or deny/ruin your beneficial experience.
>he implies that his "blah blah" can affect anything
delusional

>hey look at me im denying a popular thing look at me im different enlightened person because i deny "current thing" with reasons that i pull out of my ass

>>313436

>delusional

i'm delusional for believing meditation is better then not touching your dick so much?

what an unbalanced response. it seems like you can't even handle someone disagreeing with you. calling something so minor a delusion tells me you are kind of married to your not-touching-the-dick-agenda, that i still don't believe you have sufficiently justified. there are parts of the story you are leaving out but it doesn't matter. clearly you are not on the level of giving others advice and i am done giving you your chance to prove yourself.

>>313438
>i'm delusional for believing meditation is better then not touching your dick so much?
I didn't even mention meditation. did i?
im doing mindfulness meditation myself for one year straight.
you are really delusional im not even kidding at this point.

>i am done giving you your chance to prove yourself.
just. kek.

>>313441
>I didn't even mention meditation. did i?

no you called it blah blah but also you suck at communication. you talk like life is a theater and you just write the lines for your character. you aren't in your life yet, you look at your life from the outside, writing lines like a playwright and then expect yourself to live up to those lines and recite them at the right moments. brainrot by having engaged with too much fiction. virtual life/digital life/backseat life/remote life. real life leaves a person communicating different, you are into that remote life. you sit on a chair and watch james bond live a life while your own life expires untouched. industrialized person from the pod, that's what you seem like to me. more machine then man.

>im doing mindfulness meditation myself for one year straight.

then how come you still write like a cringed out 13 year old who does't say what he means, doesn't mean what he says and hides behind empty judgements that you invest no effort into illustrating so that other people understand them. you believe you are so smart and respectable that you don't have to reveal your thoughtprocess, you think you can just devinely give judgements and readers will accept them because they respect you so much. i don't. i look down on you.

>you are really delusional im not even kidding at this point.

yeah you said that before but so far you have made no attempt to justify this empty judgement based on anything of substance. most likely just your lower nature emotions of frustration, the kind of emotions you learn to transcend in mindfulness meditation. this is a strong indicator of you not doing mindfulness meditation.

>oh yeah bruv you are this and that for real though not gonna lie hahaha well anyways going back to my medemtaytions now that i really do every day not gonna lie for real for real hahaha

>>313457
>proceeds to more delusional posting
aaaah yes, classic shizo "you are exactly like this, let me explain" post

>the kind of emotions you learn to transcend in mindfulness meditation
>ooooh loook loook you are emotional a- and angry because you point to my delusional behaviour
>if you meditate you MUST become a polite, quiet monk
emotions going nowhere with mindfulness meditation, it just makes you more aware about your thoughts.

>13 year old who does't say what he means, doesn't mean what he says and hides behind empty judgements
i contributed in this thread >>313400 here and, >>313426 here i told you why im not gonna explain deeply for apparent reasons. just google nofap psychological benefits. stop that "explain me a topic that already explained and discussed 546846542313554 times" nonsense.

>>313400
extra info for "le scientific argument" larpers

>>313458
oh you disgraced bitch again with your identical conveyorbelt contemporary internet answer again.

>if you meditate you MUST become a polite, quiet monk

you don't, you are free to meditate and never stumble upon the good stuff and remain an unfulfilled bitch the entire time but when you find the good stuff, you don't mind all this social nonsense on the identitarian level you are most concerned with. you on the other hand who never found the good stuff don't even know how NOT to struggle for scraps because you never found your inner resources.

>i contributed in this thread

yeah in your overweight constantly out of breath kind of way. maybe you tried, i don't wanna be too harsh but again i am not impressed. you are obviously in over your head.

you probably don't mean it in a Carl Jung-ian sense when you accuse me of projection, you mean it in kind of a "i am talking to someone on the internet and i don't know what to say so i just make an accusation of projection, that seems to work, i've seen smart people do that so i also do that, maybe i'll look smart". you don't use the concept projection right. you use projection like an idiot, like you want it to mean "OH YEAH? NO YOU!" you don't know about the shadow and outsourcing parts of your personality to the shadow so that you can pretend to be virtuous. there is an entire lore behind it.

same with shizo, you just use that as a general unspecific internet insult because you don't understand the depth that of multiple personality issue and why fools do it, you just heard someone use the word and copied it. 5 years ago i am sure you were saying "take your meds" instead every 5 minutes and post the meme of the penguin with the tray because underneath it all you don't understand much, you just imitate the people around you because you are nothing but a stupid group victim trying to prove his normality by barking and calling un-normality crazy.

>>313461
>oh you disgraced bitch
>ost likely just your lower nature emotions of frustration, the kind of emotions you learn to transcend in mindfulness meditation. this is a strong indicator of you not doing mindfulness meditation.
ooooh noooooo why are you angry

>blah blah blah
ok.

but i give you that, you are look like a virtious, non-idiot person. if i did give a fuck about "explain and prove my point" to you, i was gonna did argue properly.
maybe another day, another topic, i think you are decent person. keep it up like that wiz.

>>313458
Posts like this are still spawning here due to you taking them seriously, don't forget

>>313461
>schizo used out of context, shamelessly mispelled for normalfaggotry
I was about taking this seriously, yup. About it.

>>313438
>i'm delusional for believing meditation is better then not touching your dick so much?
You wizards should've already told him "ok fed" or something likely so he already stopped trolling you. No wonder kiwifarmers be laughing their asses off about this place

>>313464
nope im not trolling. i just don't give a fuck, because of this i commit low effort post. and yes i know it decreases board quality. this "discussion" ended already, stop replying about that, wizzies.

>>313463
>if i did give a fuck about "explain and prove my point" to you, i was gonna did argue properly

yeah maybe. or maybe everyone can only argue things to the point that they understand what they actually believe and what they took the time to think through. many don't do that. why do edgelords keep repeating "question everything"? because hardly anyone does… maybe you are one of those many and now that you are somewhat exposed, you don't like how this makes you look because this concerns your most pressing concern, your identity; which i always thought to be a curious thing to defend in an at least somewhat anonymous setting like an imageboard. at least here you should be free from the obsession to perform.

>i think you are decent person

i encountered this many times in my days. i like to be disrespectful towards people without being overly mean or hurtful and it turns out many people believe they should not be respected either and could never trust someone who respects who they ended up becoming. they appreciate the honesty without the devastation it usually brings along. i don't feel the need to bring devastation along because whoever ends up being an actor has a permanent subscription to devastation already. i'd feel petty to add to that.

outwardly a normie demands respect, secretly they crave disrespect. i believe this goes so far that a lot of unrespectable people (who are hidden behind their respectable facade) only care about the opinion of disrespectful people because they are disgusted with the necessary implied dishonesty involved in respecting someone's pretend-self. to be more blunt: they could never respect someone who respects them. they know they are nothing but actors on a stage pretending to be something and whoever respects this has to be an idiot.

they'll play along with whoever respects them but if they were honest, they are looking down on anyone falling for the theater. "what you respect me? but can't you tell i am nothing but an imitation? respect an actual person, not someone like meeEEEEee?"

>>313464
>don't forget

oh you must be one of the smart people because of your dutyful reminding of what is important. you know what is important and the others, they really need you to remind them because they aren't there yet, you know what i mean? of course not

>mispelled

oh yeah very smart indeed, keep reminding the people of what is important, you are batman keeping the people safe.

>kiwifarmers

who cares if some stupid website makes fun of you, that's all identity level idiocy siphoning your limited time away. in a few months or years you are dead, the planet keeps turnning (or the disk keeps spinning, whatever you believe lol) and it will be as if you had never been here.

>>313465
>20 heated posts in
>nope actually i don't give a fuck lmao
classical music

>>313466
>oh you must be one of the smart people because of your dutyful reminding of what is important
Thank you very much.
>you know what i mean?
Pretty much nothing as usual.

>who cares if some stupid website makes fun of you
Sometimes normals just mock us out of pure rage, some other time they genuninely enjoy our misery. Indeed a short life to live making them happy, or too long to make them not seethe as much as we can.
>it will be as if you had never been here
Let us have our disagreement.

This wizard made a deal with the devil. The wizard traded 10 pounds of his bodyfat for 10 pounds of the devil's muscle, but alas, the devil's muscle attracts gazes from the devil's brides. Succubi will not stop telling the wizard how good he looks and he is beginning to become violent with them.

>>313476
>Sometimes normals just mock us out of pure rage, some other time they genuninely enjoy our misery. Indeed a short life to live making them happy, or too long to make them not seethe as much as we can.

us? speak for yourself, i'm not miserable. i get it that you are though. you are probably very miserable. instead of improving your life so that it isn't, you worry about what opinions other people have of you. that's so dumb. that's soooOOOOOOooo duuuuUUUUUuummmmmmb

the thought of other's disapproving of you is weighing you down. if you were free from this as i am, you could use every minute of the day to make your life better and sooner or later, the disapprovers had nothing to disapprove of.

typical group victim, being held back by the group, you are wax in their nasty fingers. you are whipped. some men need wives to nag them into what you voluntarily have chosen to become.

i myself am free from this nasty psychological illness of wanting to be a puppet to the worst people. i have seen and felt the entire spectrum of disapproval and instead of choosing to be vulnerable to it like you have, i choose to disregard it and am happy to pay any price this will cost me.

>>314045
Kek

>>314656
Ok, normalcuck. Enough to prove you came from elsewhere looking for a lolcow and got crapshot in da face

Let's call it a day.

>>314658
evil walruss go fuck yourself and your insulting use of plural pronouns. you are the normie. you eat bread and pasta and your life is theater. i look down on you. if you have nothing to contribute shut your dirty whore mouth already.

I am the only one at the gymnasium that doesn't take a 2 minute cellphone break after each set. Old, young, male, other… Even the trainers were scrolling gains away today. It's like the opposite of a cool anime.

Start lifting. Even calisthenics or light cardio will do. A day without gains is a day making you weaker and more feeble down the line. It's a true race against time to peak before you reach the prime of your life in your 30's. Don't waste a day! This is my advice

(And mostly, it's just about eating excessive calories and protein to grow larger. The lifts themselves are one of the smaller parts)

Burpees are such a good cardio exercise.
I do 6 burpees for every minute for 30 minutes.
I try to keep my heart rate at 160.
If It starts to get too high then I do an easier variation for 1 or 2 minutes. I'm pretty out of shape so it's super easy for my heart rate to shoot up. Hoping if I do this enough it'll help with my hypertension.

>>315491
I wish you luck in your goal of better health.

>>315491
This shit is what caused me to fuck up my calf. I did this and twisted my leg weird and pulled a muscle. Shit still hurts on occasion a year later.

>>315497
https://drdavidgeier.com/bpc-157-tendon-ligament/
You can get a nasal spray or oral capsules

>>315501
If you can't do cardio because of serious obesity it's time to start fasting

>>315501
Yeah. I think I was around 260lbs when I fucked up my calf, but I did lose about 60lbs at that point. I think I got strong enough to actually do damage at my weight, which I did.

>>315502
I think I'll actually try this out

taking naps helps you learn

>>315502
How much are those?

>>315532
https://www.limitlesslifenootropics.com/product/bpc-157-thymosin-beta-4-fragment-17-23/
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Limitless is one of the more high end, trustworthy suppliers. You can find cheaper options but it turns into a murky market.

I've done it. You recover modestly faster. It has applications for body injury and possibly brain injury. People who do serious peptides laugh at capsulefags such as myself because the bioavailability is terrible, but most people also don't want to inject either.

Finished doing 40 pull ups, perfect form. I Feel Amazing.

Did my first 20 mile ride of my kickbike.
Was great but I slept as soon as I got home, so now I got to hit the upper body.
I love the muscles it activated compared to cycling. I much prefer it for steady cardio and lower leg work out.

>>315875
I run 20 mile stretch vvizbro

>>315877
Good for you. Though it's not for me.
That would be hard on my joints.
I personally wouldn't want to run 20 miles.
I much prefer scooter/kickbike. It's fun that way.
That said, I am used to cycling everywhere long distance, so I am still adapting to using kickbike long distance. Since it uses different muscle groups I am slowly increasing the distance each week in addition to my daily rides to and from work which are 4 miles total. Some of which I do as 2 mile "sprints".

is this good to build muscules?

>>315879
No, it's for building reflexes and motor skills, not muscles.

I think I might like massage stick more than foam roller.
Never thought I would find something I liked more than foam roller for dealing with DOMS.

Got one of those bowflex quick adjust dumbbells because it was on DEEP discount of 60% off and a massage gun that was 75% off.
The only bad thing is it was just one dumbbell, so now I have to hunt around for the walmart brand to make a even pair at similar price, since I ain't paying full retail for another bowflex one, even if the build quality is decent.
Still, I can make one dumbbell work for quality upper body workouts. It's the lower body where I need more weight and even distribution of a proper pair. But I got my old fashion dumbbells for those, or my kettlebell.

I know this sounds like cheating, but I recently got gastric bypass surgery and so far I've already dropped about 53lbs. Went from 430 when I started to 377 just a week or so ago. Feels amazing not feeling like total and utter shit.

>>315931
Had a neighbor that got that.
Lost like 200 pounds in the first year, then had a death in the family that they didn't cope well with and ended up gaining all the weight back, plus 100 pounds, and had gained a benzo addiction.

I guess my main point in telling this story is that you should get mental support to go along with physical support. That way your physical and mental health can reinforce your positive changes even when you face life challenges.

Regardless I wish you luck with it and hope you don't face too bad of complications.