No.311922
>>311920I'm a NEET on disabilitybux living with his parents
Tomorrow I will take my antipsychotic injection
That's it
No.311923
>>311922I'm not taking drugs anymore
But if you're taking antipsychotics, I guess you really do need them
>NEET on disabilitybux living with his parentsSame situation, how do you feel?
I'm happy that I'm no wagie, but my mental health is still total shit and will always be
No.311925
>>311922>>311923same as you two
>NEET>disabilitybux>live with parents>took an injection for my illness (schizophrenia)but I wish I lived alone in my own apartment
>>311921too bad you have to work. do you have a degree? I have none haha
No.311926
>>311925>>311923How do you guys deal with disability reviews? I have a review next year and since I'm mentally stable now I don't know if they will lower my percentage.
>how do you feel?Not too good, I have permanent cervical dystonia and sexual dysfunction from my medication.
No.311929
>>311928>excuse me, what do you mean by this?I mean what kind of paper should I bring there since it's been years from my last hospitalization. I will try to ask my psychiatrist to make a certificate for my mental illness.
>is it conspicuous or inconspicuous?I try to hide it as much as I can but I need to constantly touch my face.
No.311930
>>311929call the hospital or private service and ask the secretary if there is a need to bring back any papers. You can also ask your psychiatrist directly.
>I will try to ask my psychiatrist to make a certificate for my mental illnessvery good idea, so when you need to proof your disability, you can show it to the one jerk who doesn't believe you
No.311934
neet threads always seem botted. Same images that'd been shared a thousand times, same exact from past neet threads, same everything.
No.311937
>>311934yeah I know, but it seems NEET/hiki don't have much to say I guess (I tell you that >>311933
as a NEET)
>>311933funny because I also spend 1 year at university and drop it.
what kind of weeb things fo you collect? I collect manga only
No.311938
>>311926>since I'm mentally stable nowjust pretend
No.311944
>>311942a manga about vampires
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRCL_midnight_childrenindeed, figures are expensive. You need a good income to spend on those things. disabilitybux isn't enough.hey, I wonder how much bux do you recieve; I earn 970 bux.
can I see your manga/figure collection?
No.311947
Hikki os just a broke neet.
Im a hikki and i honestly hate it. I have no money for anything so i stay home
No.311948
>>311947what do you do all day?
No.311973
>>311972
what exercises do you do? I think I might be starting to get scoliosis from sleeping on my stomach with my head always turned the same way and my arm wedged under me to prop up that side of my body. My lower back is hurting now. Feels like it might be out of alignment.
No.311985
>>311983
I'm from east europe, are your father too?
also, I, too, don't like when people watch me doing things, I get stif
No.311989
>>311986It seems like a good idea, reason to be out of the house, be able to read books like Nietzsche or some shit
No.311990
>>311989ok. I wish you good luck
No.312003
>>311997
he's a pied-noir?
No.312082
>>312081I was sent from the main section to you guys
No.312083
once you get sick your life as a hikki/neet is over. you will be in agony 24/7 unable to do anything about it. i'm killing myself in 2 weeks. that's all i have to say about it.
No.312086
>>312083>i'm killing myself in 2 weeksSure
No.312092
>>312083>i'm killing myself in 2 weeksI don't believe you
No.312093
>>312083Personally my time as a neet was decent and I look forward to my retirement when I can go back to being a neet again.
It was a good few years.
No.312112
>>312083How do you run out of things to do as a NEET?
No.312117
>>312115
Rude to quit without a 2 weeks notice, and as a neet your employer is Wizchan
No.312118
I think for me the problem was the expectation from my parents was always work or die. And I guess I can't totally blame them, that's the normie position. And there goal was to have me self-sustaining and able to live a long life. But it was very disingenuous oh just a get a job and be normie, when I went through all of K-12 and college without making a single friend.
So its like when college was over, I had to be miserable and suicidal to justify being NEET. If I was too happy being NEET it would be like I'm just a lazy normie.
And now I'm many years into NEETing and my parents have mostly given up. But its like I'm too broken down to live a happy NEET life.
If my parents had been more understanding that I just can't live the normie life, either the good or bad of it. Maybe I could have planned out a happy neet life. But its like they wanted me to take on all the labor of being normie, without any of the benefits.
No.312122
>>312112Abulia, anhedonia, and depression.
No.312138
>>312112Normalfags need to have accomplishments and reach arbitrary milestones in order to feel OK with themselves. They get bored with playing games, anime and imageboards in 2 weeks before they're itching to go compete in the rat race and impress the nearest succubus.
No.312139
>>312138>clueless apprenticeEnjoy being a 17 years old dude while it lasts.
No.312140
>>312139Well? What are you waiting for? You're only 31, you can still travel the world and have a great career and marry Becky the receptionist. Leave the video games and anime to us, wizzie :)
No.312141
>>312140Getting bored by everything and having anhedonia doesn't equal wanting to travel and be a normalfag. Not every wizard is happy. You think every wizard is YOU, has your personality, your worldview. Well, guess what, that's not how it works.
No.312144
>>312141The difference between wizards and failed normalfags is that wizards thrive in solitude. You don't understand how much you reveal yourself when you say that you're bored and don't enjoy anything. No shit, if you lock any normalfag in a room and don't let him fuck, suck and compete with other apes regularly, he will develop "anhedonia" too. Normalfags have certain needs and those needs can't be fulfilled with solitary hobbies, they need a hierarchy and social context to give meaning to their actions. He will be bored with playing a game alone, but if you add social context to it and tell him he's competing with other people and that if he wins he's a big shot in the ape world, his motivation suddenly increases and his anhedonia is cured.
Maybe just go outside? Doesn't sound like you're too happy being on your own, crammed in a room, huh? :)
No.312145
>>312144Just in case you are serious and not a troll, I just felt like I wanted to make you understand that not every outcast is happy, and that's not a reason to call him a normalfag.
For your information, hikikomori, NEETs, wizards, "mentally ill" people, outcasts, dudes that are not normalfags (including me, which I'm the furthest thing from a normalfag one could be), usually don't live in a happy mental state (guess why this website has a /dep/ board), so you are the weird one here. Not in the sense that you don't belong, but that you are statistically part of a minority. I'm very happy for you, don't get me wrong. But to be a non-normalfag and yet "feel happy", it means that you unknowingly partake in an insane number of delusions and cope-thoughts and you don't see the tragedy that the human life is and the hell that this world is, likely because you're very young. This doesn't have anything to do with wanting to party or travel or have sex, lol. Depression is going to hit you later in life, and not because "oh my god I should have been a normalfag!", but exactly because, by not being one, you should develop a realistic view of life and the world, which right now you obviously have not yet acquired. Unless you're an optimist religious dude or something, in which case you are closer to a normalfag than a depressed NEET crying in his room, because you partake in the same delusions that normalfags partake in, to make them think that life is a good thing.
To make it clear: I feel WORSE outside than in my room, I feel WORSE with people than when I'm alone: this doesn't mean that I live a happy life, because I'm not a normalfag optimistic happy idiot that wakes up with a smile on his face, and I think that life is hell and a curse.
But if you are just one of the asexual christian volcel trolls, then have fun, I'm not going to reply to you any further anyway.
No.312147
>>312145good post I enjoyed reading it, I also think life is horrible, I'm glad there is people like you on wizchan
No.312148
>>312145You seem to think that there are only two mental states: completely hopelessly depressed or happy-go-lucky singing with the birds and dancing in the rain. In reality, the default, healthy state of the human mind is being neutral or content, with of course normal changes in mood caused by the turbulence of life. I see that you are trying to make me the crazy one, by claiming I am some madman that is happy with life, even though we can all see that life is nothing to be happy about and so on. Expertly crafted strawman, but nonetheless, empty and full of holes.
I don't need to be satisfied with the state of the world in order to find enjoyment in my hobbies, to be engaged with my interests, to simply find comfort in solitude. I only need to have a wizardly personality.
I actually believe you when you say that you feel worse outside, but that's precisely the nature of the failed normalfag. You're just as low on the hierarchy as many wizards, just as awkward and silly and hopelessly retarded at everything, and you end up in the same circumstances, sitting in your room, on the computer, typing away maybe in the same communities. And yet! We somehow do not experience it the same way, as one thrives in solitude, while the other rots away in loneliness. The same physical circumstances, but one psyche suffers more… One simply needs to ask, well what needs aren't being met? Is there simply not enough good anime and games to go around? Or does one need more than that? What then? No, no, let's not talk about that, let's divert by blaming the state of the world. We can all agree the world is shit, how can you not be so hopelessly depressed? Yes, I've seen this type of excuse here many times. It's quite transparent who we're dealing with here, but alas, I admit we cannot look deep into the soul of this one "wizard" and see what drives him, even though his behavior and overt feelings and endless anguish reveal that his heart does not feel at home in solitude. Even as a complete loner in one's room, this wizard must argue about politics and find other ways to insert himself into the world and make his own Self relevant. The world is shit, he says. Indeed it is. And that's why we move away from it, not towards it. That's why anime and video game worlds taste so sweet, why one's daydreams are better than anything the real world can offer. The wizards is self-sufficient and needs only himself and nothing more.
No.312150
>>312148Congrats on using escapism as a coping mechanism. Don't be surprised when it doesn't last forever. I can only agree with the other guy that you sound like you're 17. The older you get, the more the consequences of isolation rears its ugly head. You can't just ignore and shut out the world, it doesn't work that way and the older you get the more you will be slapped about the face by this reality. Eventually the world will force you to conform to it and the worse you are at that, the more you will suffer. That said, I'm not saying that conforming is the right choice, just that there are consequences for not doing so.
No.312151
>>312149
>I also save some good posts that I find in a text file. I know I'm not the only wiz that did that, someone had a big .doc file or something like that, once he posted it.
can you post your files please? and the one who had a bigger file, please?
No.312169
>>311920I was for over 10 years, recently had to start waging, it's not fun but it's not so bad
I got lucky getting a night job interacting with few people that pays decently well
No.312172
>>312169Night shift are bad for your health long term
No.312173
NEETdom is dangerous
No.312174
>>312172indeed
>>312173why are you saying that?
No.312184
>>312176
you want to take care of your health, well that involves going to the doctor which costs money and involves leaving the house and interacting with other people. If you have no money and can't leave the house, it becomes impossible to take care of your health. Again, you sound 17 if you don't understand this yet. Random medical shit can just happen to you and you have no control over it. If that hasn't happened to you yet you are just some combination of lucky/young.
No.312185
>>312172EVERYTHING is bad for your health.
Life is a 100% terminal condition.
No.312192
Anyone on SSI and mind sharing tips?
No.312195
>>312187>Besides if you're poor junk food is the only pleasure in lifeJunk food is significantly more expensive than normal food
No.312196
>>312195Only in the third world. In developed countries it is the cheapest, and it's expensive to even buy fresh meat and vegetables
No.312197
>>312196>In developed countries it is the cheapest, and it's expensive to even buy fresh meat and vegetablesI live in the developed world and even looking at prices from other first-world countries, your statement couldn't be further from the truth.
No.312198
>>312197Link to what you consider "normal food" thats cheaper than taco bell and mcdonalds. Ive lived in 2 different countries and junk food / fast food has definitely always been primarily for poor people with little time and money
No.312199
>>312198You obviously don't grocery shop or cook for your self.
I can make a week's worth of burgers for the cost of eating fast food burgers twice.
Same goes for literally everything fast food related.
And if you are actually real deal poor fast food is a decedent luxury.
Been very poor, still lower class, all within the US. I am living it and know it because it's my real life.
You obviously haven't and don't.
No.312200
>>312199It takes like an hour to make and eat burgers. You also don't want to be eating it for every meal of your day, everyday after you made them once or twice.
No.312201
>>312200>You also don't want to be eating it for every meal of your day, everyday after you made them once or twiceMissing the point intentionally.
Also if you are poor your time literally is worth less. Spending time economically makes a hell of a lot more sense than wasting money.
But sure, ignore the central point to play stupid. That totally doesn't make you look like a disingenuous clown.
No.312203
>>312200>You also don't want to be eating it for every meal of your dayWhat do you mean "we" don't? If YOU don't, then say
>I also don't want to be eating it every dayInstead of molesting the English language or actually inferring that we prefer what you suggested - whichever one you're doing.
Fat peoples' pickiness and general incomprehension is apparent in every argument they try to make.
No.312207
>>312199I live on my own and cook all my own food
In finland:
a mcdonalds hamburger: 2.35 euros
400g beef mince: 5.99 euros
4x burger buns: 3.35euros
onions: 1 euro
plus cooking equipment, dishwasher, cheese, condiments, lettuce or whatever…
At best maybe it ends up maybe about the same price per burger but takes much more time and energy which poor people have the least of.
No.312209
>>312207There is only 45g of meat in a single McBurger though. The McDouble has 90g total though and according to google it costs 3€.
But I agree, for the sake of argument say it's 3€. It's warm, there is no dish, no preparation, you just get the food instantly.
It's a no brainer for someone strapped on cash. Even if you wanted to make them yourelf you'd have to buy a bunch of other ingredients without the scales of economy on your side (huge purchases bringing down the average price of ingredients).
Despite inflation it can legitimately be cheaper to eat at a McDonald's than cook at home, not to mention immensely more convenient.
I don't know if Finland or nordic countries have the McDonalds' app, but I suggest downloading that.
It sometimes has some very good deals like a double burger and fries for $3. Or an entire meal for $4 (which is about €4).
There is no place on Earth where you can have dinner for such a cheap price. Most places these days charge $10-$15 even for a basic lunch.
No.312210
>>312201If min wage is $14/hr for example and you just spent an hour going grocery shopping, then an hour more preparing cooking and eating a burger then you just lost $28 on top of the price you payed for making your own burgers.
On top of that
>The buns for burgers only last a few days, maybe a week tops before they go stale so you will eat 1 or 2 burgers then throw out the rest >Veggies like lettuce and tomatoes don't last long either and cost a lot for organic quality not just cheapest you can find with no taste to save money >You are left with no buns and no veggies most of the time and need to waste time and money going grocery shopping again and cooking your own which is a huge hassle and defeats the point of feeling good after eating a burger No.312211
Worried about dying over my teeth, they're in pretty bad shape. Well the ones that are left. Can't afford a dentist.
No.312213
>>312207>>312209I really don't feel like doing 4 different conversions to check your math (Who the fuck measures meat in grams) but I know for a fact and experience that what you said isn't reflective of reality in the US.
Cost me around ~$20 usd to have a full on cook out of grilled burgers for myself of 6-8 complete burgers of satisfying size.
A single shitty burger from Mcdonalds that doesn't even taste like a burger isn't a meal even for a child.
>There is no place on Earth where you can have dinner for such a cheap price.Obvious hyperbole. When I was down in Mexico the street food down there cost like fifty cents and was more filling than a single tiny burger from McD.
>>312210Bread last longer than 2 days unless you are buying fancy expensive bakery bread, which isn't comparable to fast food buns that also last much longer than 2 days.
Lettuce and tomatos of the same quality that you would give a fast food place is very cheap and last up to two weeks in the fridge if properly stored.
> and cost a lot for organic qualityOrganic is a scam that you can't afford if you are poor. Not sure if you are just being retarded or dishonest. But you are consistently trying to compare the most expensive quality ingredients that you can buy to the lowest quality of McD when comparing price. Which is flat out dishonest and totally unrealistic.
But seriously, organic is a scam. Do not ever waste your money on organic. It doesn't improve the quality or nutritional value of the food, and organic farming is worse for the environment than conventional farming.
It's a luxury product to scam upper middle class retards with too much money. It isn't for sensible poor people.
No.312214
>>312211Is there any way you can qualify for some sort of assistance program that includes dental?
Or does where you live not have anything like that?
Paperwork and bureaucracy is a pain and all but it has to be less of a pain than tooth problems left to fester.
No.312223
>>312222The desire for representation should encourage you to to represent yourself through your own creative works. As a shut-in with unlimited time, why not begin producing the art which you wish to see more o in the world?
No.312224
>>312223I don't know how to draw
No.312228
>>312225I should write a Light Novel instead
No.312232
>>312228Go for it. I am rooting for you.
No.312233
>>312232thank you, it's nice to see some cheers
No.312251
Any happy, tranquil or content NEET? All talking about NEETdom is always melancholic, what about happy NEETs that actually are ok with their lot in life?
No.312252
>>312251>any rich NEETs?fixed that for ya!
No.312253
>>312251>>312252Yeah, it's less that NEETdom it's self is the issue, it's that poverty sucks most of the time, and without a income most NEETs live in poverty.
Fact of the matter is poverty is pretty depressing sometimes.
If most NEETs were lottery winners with all their needs met and cash for whatever they enjoy then it would be a different story.
No.312254
>>312214I got on a program that does dental, only a few dentist accept it sadly. Gonna start calling the few dentist close to me that take it and hopes one accepts me. Really worried they're gonna say it's to late for me however.
No.312255
>>312251I hate being alive so damn much, honestly. I'm trying to get a job as a dog walker because I cannot bear NEETdom. Do you guys really just wake up, up imageboards and watch YouTube and TV, then just go to bed? So boring.
No.312256
>>312255>Do you guys really just wake up, up imageboards and watch YouTube and TV, then just go to bed? So boringthat's all I do all day haha
No.312259
Anyone on NEETbux? How you budget your money?
No.312260
>>312259I'm on disablebux. I live with my parents so I don't have to spend money. sometimes (rarely) I buy junk food or manga. that's my only spendings
No.312262
>>312254It's worth a try and much better than the alternatives.
No.312263
>>312255I also masturbate
No.312268
>>312251Weed helps. I would if I knew I would always have a room, food, etc. I’m pretty much used to it.
No.312270
NEETs, how you daily Schedule looks like? What do you do?
No.312272
>>312271How do you think a wagie daily life is? The famous 4 hours life is a meme for a reason, a single wagie has like 4 hours per day of free time, even less if you're a married and have kids, truly the only downside of NEETdom is the lack of money, that it.
No.312273
>>311997
You are filth
No.312274
>>312272it's been a while dince I stoped working, I can't remember what it is like to work and how lucky I am
No.312275
>>312272A lot of people can't handle NEETdom because they're incapable of self-directed behavior and goals. They need an authority or other people to drag them into doing things, otherwise they just default to doing nothing.
No.312276
>>312275yeah you're right, I'm those kind of people, I need someone to tell me what to do, if not I stay in laeiness mode
No.312280
>>312275>>312275Agree, but I knew quiet a few, very few actually, NEETs that did programming for a hobby and got to a professional level, or NEETs that went to learn whole new language, but yeah, many NEETs will simply do nothing at all.
No.312291
NEETbump
No.312292
>>312284what do you mean by this?
No.312311
>>312304he, she's a succubus. my mistake
No.312323
My stool is a mucus green/blue. All I had was one brisk blue soda today. The fuck.
No.312327
>>312323>brisk blue sodapost picture of the soda pls, i used brave image search and i don't think it found what you were mentioning.
No.312329
>>312328does it taste good?
No.312353
>>312280truth, but getting a code job and doing something useful with the new language is truly nightmare mode as a NEET/hikikomori. I basically gave up on getting a code job as a way to get out neetdom since even people with college degrees are suffering and fighting for an unpaid internship. I mean, that's a strong reason to kill myself since I lost the bitcoin wagon in 2012 because no money, but had no money, so no complain, fair enough. However, the true regret is learning to code at 2014 and since then gathering energy to build a portfolio and get a job, then current day the hype is gone, billions learned to code, thousands got fired and now only college bachelors are getting a job. Anyway, I'm a scriptjunkie at best and the hardest part is getting motivation to get code stuff that get you a job like website systems and a portfolio, in fact, I don't know to code, only cope that for doing scripts and landing pages I could have a chance of getting job. I truly believe there are capable NEETs, but there social, no depression or got lucky to monetize their hobby
No.312354
>>312353>>312280I learned to code and got qualifications but it is all meaningless if you cant socialize sufficiently, handle dealing with people regularly, and handle being a slave for an evil corporation that makes you work against everything you care about
No.312370
In a small, quiet town nestled between rolling hills and a dense forest, lived Marcus, a man who was a contradiction to many. Although he identified as a NEET (Not in Education, Employment, or Training), he had a work ethic and self-discipline that would make many professionals envious. His life, centered around comfort and efficiency, was a carefully crafted balance of simplicity and strategy.
Marcus lived in a modest one-bedroom apartment in a government-subsidized housing complex. His days were meticulously planned to maximize comfort and minimize stress. He had learned how to live comfortably on welfare, understanding the system's intricacies and using them to his advantage. Though some might consider his lifestyle lazy or unproductive, Marcus approached his days with precision and intent.
Each morning, Marcus woke up at exactly 7:30 a.m., his alarm set to a gentle chime that didn't jolt him from sleep. He spent the first hour of the day in a routine that was as predictable as it was soothing. A quick shower, followed by a simple breakfast of oatmeal and fruit, set the tone for the day. He would then meditate for 20 minutes, clearing his mind and focusing on the day ahead.
With his basic needs met, Marcus turned his attention to his passion: building and maintaining a digital world in a popular online game. Though it seemed like a mere hobby, Marcus treated it like a job. He logged in at 9:00 a.m. sharp, managing his virtual realm with the precision of a seasoned manager. His efficiency in-game was unparalleled, earning him a reputation among his fellow players as someone who could be relied upon to get things done.
By noon, Marcus took a break to prepare lunch, always a nutritious and straightforward meal. He had mastered the art of cooking with minimal effort, often batch-cooking meals to save time and energy. This allowed him to spend more time on his hobbies without worrying about his next meal.
The afternoons were Marcus's "free time." He used it to read, watch documentaries, or explore his neighborhood's lush parks and trails. Despite his reclusive lifestyle, he valued his health and made sure to exercise daily. His favorite activity was hiking through the forest, where he would often find inspiration for his virtual creations.
In the evenings, Marcus would wind down with a light dinner and a few hours of gaming or reading. His apartment was always tidy, a result of his strict cleaning schedule. He believed that a clutter-free space contributed to a clutter-free mind, allowing him to focus on the things he enjoyed without unnecessary distractions.
Marcus's approach to life was unconventional but highly effective. He managed to live comfortably on welfare, not out of laziness or lack of ambition, but because he valued simplicity and efficiency. His high self-discipline allowed him to create a life that was both fulfilling and relaxing, proving that even those living on the margins of society could find contentment and purpose in their own unique way.
No.312398
Gonna get blood work done tomorrow. Little nervous about it.
No.312399
>>312398do you fear the syringe?
No.312400
>>312398They don't work on the blood while it's inside you. They take it out through a small painless hole and then do the work somewhere else. No surgery at all.
No.312401
>>312399>>312400More nervous about what they're gonna find. Only reason I'm getting blood work done is because I was an idiot and told my psychiatrist about all these medical fears I have. Now they want me to get blood work done to make sure the issue is mental and not an actual issue.
No.312405
>>312401do you take drugs?
No.312406
>>312405Only prescribed ones, nothing illegal.
No.312407
>>312406So drug that were probably illegal 2-3 years ago but were found to be profitable so they sell them as a prescription now?
No.312410
I wonder who the oldest NEET here is, probably me since I'm in my 30s.
No.312414
Jean-Jacques Rousseau said "Rich or poor, powerful or weak, every idle citizen is a knave"
if he was alice today, he would go on a rampage against us, NEETs/Hikikomori…are we parasite of society?
No.312417
>>312410I'm also in my 30s
No.312418
>>312410I'm 26, I'm an apprentice
No.312421
>>31241035 here. I'm probably one of the oldest wizard NEETs here. 40 yo NEETs are rare, mostly because they probably neck themselves before they reach that age.
No.312423
>>312421I hope I don't. I'm disabled so I don't really have a choice but to be a NEET.
No.312538
>Disabilitybux
>Section 8
>Food stamps
This is all a wizNEET requires to live his best life. Honestly I gave up on finding a job. There's simply no work out there for someone like me.
No.312546
>>312222- Saltiness
- Ore wa mada honki dashitenai dake
- 34-sai Mushoku-san (partial credit)
No.312548
>>312251Hi, I actively sought out this life and threw away my chance at something more normal. I am both substance abuse and mental anguish free. Nor am I rich. The secret is genuinely environment. I recognized my environment was ideal. I live in a quiet neighborhood and have quiet family members. This way, even with getting your basic bux that only cover bills and food, you don't lack. It is the privacy and the respect that is missing from the common NEET.
Living at home near 24/7 means the comfort level of your home becomes far more important than anything else in life. It is only when the home is inendurable that it becomes hard to be NEET. So before you need to learn to live with yourself, you must learn to live with your home. And that is sadly not possible in most places on this earth. That is why people are restless, yapping about purpose and goals and activities and self-improvement as a secondary cope. Their home is like a den of ants where laying about inside causes a tremendous itch and discomfort. It is hard to imagine from this position how one could be fine experiencing so little.
This is partially bragging due to how grateful I am for this, but also to elucidate the hierarchy of comforts.
Environment comes before self. A good environment will naturally inform a healthier self. Rather than an uphill battle full of discipline and struggle, it is a gentle growth born from nothing. Thus if you can put your efforts towards either self or environment, pick environment first every time. Environment covers everything from your immediate living space, to your street, to the local culture and people you interact with however brief in the day to day.
No.312582
>>312548wow thank you for this post. for a long time i tried to live a peaceful live in the ant hill but as you describe, it is nothing but constant discipline and struggle.
have been hoping to find a quiet place i can move to, but the gravity of this place i am still stuck at and it's problem seems overwhelming. like a machine that is designed to put stones in my path so i waste more and more days spinning in a circle.
hopefully i find a nice place where people have their own life and don't need me to complete it so i can have a life too.
No.312584
>>312546I can't find available scans for- Ore wa mada honki dashitenai dake, do you have a link, please?
No.312586
How much is your NEETbux? Can you survive on it?
No.312752
>>312586970 disablebux. I live with my parents. no spending
No.312753
>>312548Agreed, you expressed this very well
No.312808
Anyone here trying for ssi/neetbux?
No.312821
>>31192020 year old here. been a NEET after finishing Grade 12 (18 years old) I would like to do a redo on life but then again, I really hate my middle-highschool experience
No.312867
>>312821>I would like to do a redo on life but then again, I really hate my middle-highschool experiencehere is the redo you ordered.
tomorrow do whatever you believe is right. concern yourself with what you believe to be important. learn what interests you. time is the true currency, learn to use it wisely, i was so broken after school that it took me many many many many many years to regenerate the trauma, maybe it will not take you as long. trust your instincts.
No.312868
>>312586You can survive off of only neetbux but it's tricky. Typically you would live with family or a roommate. If you can get subsidized housing then it's even possible to live by yourself, but this can take a long time. I'm talking years of waiting. However, as a wizard, living alone is preferable at least for me.
No.313475
>>313471>Normie gaslighting into letting them making you even more miserable. You worry me. How you not seeing the between lines hatred?
No.313481
>>313475I felt a certain contempt for the hiki when I read that but now that you have shed light on it I agree with you, they despise the hikikomori, indeed.
also I had a question, those books about hiki talk about being a hiki is a japanese phenomena and only japanese, but we can see there's many hiki around the world. I'm those who want hiki to be only a japanese thing. but , my question is, why hikikomori is only a japanese thing and what makes it a japanese thing
No.313485
>>312868Inflation is making it harder and harder.
In some places you need financial aid from parents + state neetbucks just to survive.
No.313489
>>313488i think the people who take on all these responsibilities are fools that are being taken advantage of. they sacrifice their entire life and all the get is a little bit of money and maybe some pretend respect but otherwise they are treated as contagious garbage children who have to be protected from themselves while the owners get the profit for playing social chess with hardworking people's lives.
nobody is weird for not wanting that. none of the riches, conveniences and technologies are worth a system that is that disgustingly inhumane.
No.313519
>>313471>lazy, pleasure seekers, agoraphobics, "special cases"This is some kike-level classification of people.
No.313520
>>313519made by a japanese doctor (or psychatrist, don't remember) but yeah the terms he uses are pretty harsh
No.313521
>>313520It's that sly shifting of all blame into the individual as opposed to the society that created the individual.
>inb4 personal responsibilitySure but there's only so much you can do by yourself if your circumstances suck.
No.313522
>>313521being a hiki/neet had become a lifestyle. but. soceity donnt lile when someone live like an modern hermit, so specialist pressure soceity telling it being a hikikomori is a illness and he must go back to work.
they want us to feel bad about our life and are jealous because we are free from societal duties (like working)
No.313681
>>313485Being a wagie who barely scrapes by and is tormented by normies all day is a far worse fate imo. You could always prepare cheaper food to eat. Sadly, as neets we're going to have to improvise and find other ways of surviving this inflation.
No.313728
Never understood those western people saying that are hikkikomori, like, dude you don't live in Japan to be a real hikki, you are just a NEET, there isnt't a Hikki outside of Japan.
No.313729
>>313728a word can never be more then a signpost pointing at something. your ultimate trust in words is undeserved.
words are just very flawed tools, you expect 1 millimeter accuracy from a chainsaw.
you're splitting hairs, minding the trivial differences instead of seeing the huge overlap.
No.313730
>>313729so you agree or I'm full of shit
No.313731
>>313730>so you agree or I'm full of shitthink about it.
if you can't tell after reading my post, what clearer sign could there be that words are weak; lifeless imitation nowhere near the level of material or action. how can words be everything if they are this imprecise.
how can large language models be intelligent if language itself is so dumb.
No.313733
>>313732wouldn't it be easier to just say what you mean using as many or as little words as the situation requires to explain it instead of arguing over definitions of words?
guy on your picture looks like he is not only waiting for death but calling for death to hurry and take him.
No.313734
>>313733I wasn't really arguing with anyone.
I just always thought that "NEET" was kind of a stupid term that doesn't mean too much since there are so many reasons one might not be in employment, education or training.
No.313735
>>313734>>313732you're right, 'neet' can wrap a lot of people but it is not what we think when we say neet here. thats why we should call it 'hikkineet'
>>313731that's…philosophical indeed
No.313736
>>313732>The word "NEET" carries a lot of connotations that aren't expressed through the acronymNot this shit again. 'N.E.E.T' is a legal classification applied to those
not in education, employment, or training - indiscriminate of someone's personality, social activity, or held wealth. The qualifiers of "Hikikomori" have always been clouded the fog of subjectivity due to the wording used (e.g how 'often' can he leave the house before it's considered 'not often'?), but the term N.E.E.T was made to be as simple and objective as a label could be. It's black and white by design. These connotations you speak of are recent fabrications by nefarious queers on Discord and such, who use these unwritten qualifiers to expel people from their sacred NEET groupchats. They ought to invent a new special word or acronym to encompass the particular kind of NEETs they personally consider "real NEETs" instead of applying unwritten clauses to the existing terminology.
No.313738
>>313734>I just always thought that "NEET" was kind of a stupid term that doesn't mean too much since there are so many reasons one might not be in employment, education or training.employment sucks, education sucks, training might be useful but in many cases it is just as spirit-breaking so it would not be too far out to lump it in with the suckiness. it's just group-people expecting everyone to sacrifice themselves for the enrichment of the psychopaths and living off of a few crumbs. when i say neet i mean a person bold enough not to push humanity in the direction of centralization, violence and empire.
No.313739
>>313736>legallegal schmeegel, you bring the filth of law into this thread, why not invite a few transgenders, feminists and sports fans while you are at it…
No.313740
>>313739>why not invite a few transgenders, feminists and sports fans while you are at it…What are you even on about?
No.313741
>>313736>They ought to invent a new special word or acronym to encompass the particular kind of NEETs they personally consider "real NEETs" instead of applying unwritten clauses to the existing terminology.Well, yes that sounds like a swell idea. Where do you imagine we disagree?
I am well aware that it was coined with different intentions, but so was the word "idiot".
No.313743
>>313740>What are you even on about?who cares what those violent tyrants define as their legal terms, take any justice system, for the most part the justice system is rigged, they force everyone to live by the rules that their owners decided who are seldom in the interest of the many and most often in the interest of the few. how dare you bring the filth of the legal system in these sacred halls. shame on you.
No.313744
>>313743Is this a bit? Like you're pretending to be CRAZY SCHIZOPOSTER WHO HATES THE FED XD for laughs?
No.313748
>>313744>CRAZY SCHIZOPOSTERexplain how this is crazy shitposting
No.313749
>>313744do you think it's also schizoposting to say that the police work for the government? lmao
No.313771
It's weird to see how neets are becoming more common. Then again, the labor force participation rate has been steadily dropping for decades. I've noticed the number of posts on the internet that mention getting neetbux has increased a lot since COVID. I can definitely see a sharp drop in jobs in the near future as AI takes over white-collar work and companies lay off most of their human workforce.
Just some observations, I guess…
No.313778
I love the feds
No.313793
Has anyone seen a 40s NEET?? The only NEETs online where 20 something or early 30s NEETs, never a 40 year old NEET, why?
No.313797
>>313794How the hell he survives?
No.313798
>>313797I don't know, I think he lives with parents
No.313841
>>313797This guy is probably making a killing off YouTube if he gets add revenue. He has multiple vids with over a mil views, you can get decent money from that if you don't mind being a public embarrassment.
No.313842
>>313793Once you get older there’s nothing worth taking to young people about.
No.313848
Wizchan still a place for NEETs?
No.313855
Hi
No.313856
Anyone on bux (usa) ? What for and how did you get it
No.313896
>>313856It helps if you have never been employed. Will get it on appeal.
No.313995
>>313896Do they know if you ever worked a job? Neet since 2010 and only ever had part time jobs
No.314007
>>313995Social Security will know. You need a social security or equivalent number to have a job in the US.
No.314533
very soon i'll be a wagie again after 4 years of neeting, good bye neetwizzies (T_T)
No.314539
>>314533High paid job, middle, or low paid job?
No.314572
I wish I was a NEET with money, because wagie slaving is bad for the person, and bad morally because you a cog supporting a bad social system called capitalism, I still working on ideas of just quit the system maxxing or avoid capitalism maxxing.
No.314573
There are no western hikkikomoris, if one's claim himself a hikki while living, let's say, USA, that's just bullshit, probably this western "hikkikomoris" leaves him room and go out.
No.314574
>>314573There are plenty of western agoraphobs who litterally never leave their house and could easily be counted as being true hikkikomoris.
Same with other forms of shut-ins.
It's just a different name for a well documented phenomenon that exist to differing degrees in all cultures and countries around the world.
No.314577
>>314573Never leaving your room seems difficult to manage. You have to get food and water, use the washroom, make unfortunate ventures into the abyssal IRL, etc
No.314578
>>311920If anyone's curious about the image, I'm pretty sure that those are wooden boards in Japanese shrines where people write their wishes/prayers and "脱NEET" means something like "quitting/escaping NEETdom".
No.314579
>>314578oh…ok I thought it was ' I wish I was a NEET' haha
No.314609
>>314579Being neet is what most people in the world aspire towards, but with 5000x more income than neetbucks.
Being neet is the optimal state in life, it is only problematic because poors who are neet rely on a couple hundred a month to stay alive.
If that same sum was even just a couple thousand, they'd be free to do absolutely anything in life.
No.314613
What percentage of wiz are NEET? 60%? 85%?
No.314621
>>314536>>314536Holy moly! A 41 years old NEET! Care to share some wisdom?
No.314622
>>3146135% or less. There's only one other 30+ neet here I know and he's an inheritance receiver so our lives are very different (I'm on bux)
No.314623
Does anyone knows places only geared towards NEETs? I only know NEET.me and the NEET subreddit.
No.314625
>>314623There is neet.moe but it's always going up and down. Currently it's in the "down" phase (it's going to go up again in a few months probably).
No.314626
>>314624Yes, NEET.net, I still remember the old url
>>314625Do you have the link?
No.314628
>>314626>Do you have the link?It's literally just neet.moe, as in
https://neet.moe/But if you access the website you can see a cuckflare error saying that the host is down. The site is notable for being up for several months, then going down for several months, etc. My theory is that the admin is a NEET himself who can't afford the server costs for 12 months a year. Or maybe he's bipolar and the site being up/down matches his manic/depressive phases. Who knows.
Anyway, for now you can just browse archives (wayback machine, archive.today…) if you want to get a glimpse of how the site was.
No.314629
>>314628Dayum, the site archive just show a place full of trolls and little to none actual topics about NEETdom.
No.314634
>>312251I'm a NEET with above average wealth so I don't have to worry about money.
I think my situation is a privilege that I haven't been able to take advantage of properly, I can be extremely happy but that depends on what I do with my free time, If I feel like I have wasted it I feel miserable but If I do something "productive" I feel great, I really don't want to achieve anything, I just like to spend my time better by watching movies and reading about them, get better at playing my instruments and learn how to play by ear.
If I could find a way to get rid of my internet addiction and start doing things that I'd like to do I would be extremely happy.
No.314635
>>314633>nuts and fruitsThat's a detox and you should stop unless you wish to start losing teeth. Not something you should carry out for long, I mean.
No.314636
>>314635>you should stopCompletely? What should I eat then?
No.314637
>>314636When doing detox, detox. When not so, better to eat in a complete way. I started adding yoghurts, sometimes fish…
It was hard to me going on fully alkaline diet but shit got serious when I started developing sudden cavities. No damn joke.
No.314638
>>314636Prebiotics, probiotics, and meat protein. So yoghurt, milk, eggs, and red meats.
No.315434
>>315426Gonna play Call of Duty Black Ops 6
No.315435
>>315434I'm done with fps, I played too much when I was younger. why do you still like fps and cod bo6
No.315440
>>315435I just played for dumb fun, bro.
No.315863
>>315862>Been NEETing and Hiki-maxxing since 2011when was the last time you went outside?
what you do all day?
what's the longest time you didn't go outside?
No.315882
>>315862videogames are for wagecucks to keep them from blowing their brains out and kiling other people, better pursue some creative hobbies to stimulate your brain enough to prevent cerebral atrophy
No.315884
>>315882Games are the same stimuli as going out and waging
No.315885
>>311931Mfw food stamps at pizza hut
No.315886
>>314621I know a 60 yr old neet
On bux
No.315888
>>315886>60 years old NEET Holy shit, how is like to be a 60 years old NEET?
No.315890
I'm a full-time NEET with nothing to do. Ever since I started getting autismbux, my life has been at a standstill. Every day it's the same thing. Wake up, play video games, stare at my phone, sleep. It honestly feels like a prison sentence.
No.315891
>>315888Shes kind of normie and gardens and stuff, she gets it for bereavment
No.315892
>>315890at least you can play game. I cannt because I don't have a pc
No.315894
>>315890so give yourself something to do. i write and do photography and read 40k lore.
No.315898
>>315890A wagie feels the same way about their routine: wake up, shit and piss, eat, commute, work, back to home, sleep, and wake up, on and on for 35 years or more, at least NEETs have somekind of freedom.
No.315913
NEETs, what's your age?
No.315920
>>31591326 never worked and dropped out in middle school
No.315922
>>315920>Drop out of middle schoolStory?
No.315923
>>315922Basically when I bought my first computer I started playing videogames all day and stopped going to school
No.315926
>>315925>>315923I relate to this, based hikki, normal life really never began for us.
No.315927
>>315926normal life wasn't mean for us
No.315928
>>315923But, what about your parents?
No.315933
>>315928They tried to send me to a private school but it didn't work
No.315934
>>315928fuck off normalshit
No.315937
>>315934>>315935Zoomers (all the other kids) became our out-group pretty early in life. Since then, I learn to split people into normals and non-normals. If you went to college and interacted with them there, you might be an npc. Likewise, if you used social media etc. you are not a friendo. Basic as fuck.
>>315928Soon I will have to manipulate my family into leaving me alone once again. I need courage. I'm 25, by the way.
>>31593Based.
No.315938
>>315937> I'm 25, by the way.zoomer
No.315939
>>315938Zoomers are a placeholder for young normalfags.
No.315944
>>315898I suppose all of that is true. I guess sometimes it just feels like prison. But the other side of the fence doesn't look that great either.
No.316026
So, NEETs, how do you spend your days? What's the most enjoyable activities you do to keep your mind going?
No.316027
>>316026I stay on my phone the whole day. I browse imageboards and watch youtube videos; sleep and then repeat.
I don't have my own pc, if I want to go to pc i must use my brothers, but I can't do what I wish on it. I generaly play games on it. I wish I had my personal computer No.316029
>>313848I think so. But then, NEETs exist on a variety of online platforms. We just tend to keep to ourselves. At least here, we can be a bit more open about this lifestyle with others.
No.316038
>>316027Unironically buy the new Mac Mini M4 and play windows games on it.
It is a stupidly powerful cpu/gpu in a small form factor for $599.
Though you do need some kind of monitor to hook up to
No.316040
>>316038I won't buy the new mac, thank you for suggesting
No.316042
>>316038>Mac Mini M4 and play windows gamesIt can barely run windows in eumaltion mode, majority of games are made for intel/amd cpu so they will run also like shit except for the not demanding ones and old console games like ps1-3,
and you only get 16/256gb of storage and it is not upgradable though you can still add external ssd but in this case why not buy a windows machine insead?
No.316047
>>316038there are also very powerful mini pcs that are not mac on same price bracket
No.316074
>>316038MacOS since Catalina (2019) can no longer play 32-bit Windows games anymore via Wine/Proton. Wine said they'll eventually fix it but it's been 5 years now and there hasn't been any real progress on that front AFAIK, I'm guessing Valve is their main customer now so they're focusing on improving compatibility for Linux/SteamOS. So stay away from Macs if you want to play Windows games.
No.316081
>>316042This was true in the past when they ran on intel. The 2024 processors are insanely fast. The benchmarks online don't lie
No.316082
I forgot to mention, it requires a program called CrossOver. But you get 40-60fps on modern games so there is no drawback, considering it's literally just 600 bucks
No.316086
>>316081Consider the entire downgrade in gaming performance with the translation with Rosetta. They seem like decent workstations that will handle a lot of shit running in the background with ease and a ton of simultaneous background processes, I'm just not so sure about how viable is it for gaming, and niche gaming, to this day.
It's likely okay though, it's not the M1 any longer.
No.316137
>>315863Sorry for The late Reply
- I go outside daily nowadays for physical activity (i think it counts as being a hiki as long you avoir social interaction like the snake)
- I just spend it all in front of the computer
- I really can't tell, but i Always had to buy grocerries for my mom every once in a while, so, it can't be anything so impressive, duh
No.316140
NEETs and Hikis, what lead you into your current lifestyle?
No.316141
>>316140paranoid schizophrenia
No.316142
>>316140i ain't writing your research project for you, tiffany.
No.316143
>>316142There's no Tiffany here, schizo.
No.316173
Real patriots wish that they could stay awake 24 hours a day spreading freedom.
No.316215
>>316173I want peace not freedom
No.316217
>>316215can there be peace without freedom?
if your fate lies in someone else's hands, can you ever be at peace?
No.316238
Does a western hiki even truly exist for real?
No.316239
>>316238there is if you don't believe it's a only japanese thing. beside that I don't know why it is a only japanese thing, what makes it only a japanese thing?!
No.316240
>>316239>what makes it only a japanese thingIt's probably the sensationalist e-celeb-fueled view of Japanese society as being a super giga conformist hell. So, because of that, being a shut-in in Japanese society would be much different than being a shut-in in a supposedly more permissive western society, deserving a special word (hikikomori).
I wouldn't say that this is entirely false, but some people exaggerate it too much. I still wouldn't say that the word hikikomori can only be applied to Japanese people.
No.316242
I've been losing weight and feeling a bit better about myself so I want to leave the house and go for a walk or something. But staying at home has become so core to my identity.
Every time my family introduces me to a medical person or social worker they say something like "he hasn't left the house in 15 years". It would be kind of awkward if I casually leave the house and now I'm just a guy with no job or education but still leave the house and enjoy the outdoors like a normal person.
No.316243
>>315899can you play something you've learned?
No.316244
>>316241Lmao, do you really think being a hiki shut in will become some trend among normies? Are you delusional?
No.316245
>>316242>Never left the house for 15 years Holy fanfic
No.316246
>>316244why it will never be?
No.316248
>>316244It already was a couple years ago, during the scamdemic.