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What do you think of nofap, does it make sense or is it all a lie, is it worth abstaining from pornography, or is it not worth the effort?
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 No.215729

>>215728
i feel bad for the losers that fall for the nofap meme. it's like, not only are you not getting any pussy, but you also can't rub one out without feeling guilty about it and torturing yourself for months thinking you'll magically fix all of your problems. i think it started out as a christian psyop at first, but then it became this dudebro self-improvement bullshit from reddit where you can't do anything productive if you're wanking. the funny part is how the sexual frustration is eventually supposed to motivate you to chase after real gurls and have a relationship, that's the whole point of it, but motherfuckers here claim that it's wizardly somehow lmfao

 No.215732

>>215728
>Fuck if it turns my brain into sludge
Cumming improves your mental health, it lowers stress and releases dopamine

>>215729
I agree with you, nofap is one of the most betacuck things you can do

 No.215733

Semen retention unironically feels good and it's fairly easy.

 No.215735

>>215733
i love semen too, fellow wizard

 No.215738

>>215734
Why? I feel more at peace with myself when I don't have to coom.
>>215735
Semen is good nutrients for your body fellow wizard, why waste it? We're not reproducing anytime soon.

 No.215869

>>215728
>>215729
imagine being a porn addict, you're just another sex obsessed failed normalfag at that point. You can't fool anyone.

 No.215873

>>215869
oh yeah? well you're just another buzzword buzzword buzzword, buzzword. you can't fool anyone, everyone knows you're a stupid buzzword.

 No.215874

>>215729
>the funny part is how the sexual frustration is eventually supposed to motivate you to chase after real gurls and have a relationship, that's the whole point of it, but motherfuckers here claim that it's wizardly somehow lmfao
They keep missing this point over and over.
I think most of them are just trolling, the few other ones are just deluded.
The whole volcels thing is just a meme.
This site is based on a wrong premise anyway, so it will always be a troubled chan.

 No.215876

>>215869
What chu gonna do bout it wizboy?

 No.215882

>>215729
True and deeply depressing to imagine what it must be like to be one of them.

 No.215883

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>>215882
That's depressing to you? People trying to better themselves, you mean because you come off looking like garbage for not even trying? I suppose that would be depressing.

 No.215884

>>215883
Depressing because they're trying to better themselves in a completely pointless way, getting caught up on a non-problem while everything in their life goes to shit. If only you abstain for 30-60-90 days THEN you will finally have the energy and motivation to tackle the actual problems in your life that have nothing to do with jerking off. It's borderline magical thinking and the excuse for why none of these nofap bros ever achieve anything is because they haven't done it for long enough. Yeah, the six month mark is when you really start feeling it!

 No.215885

Having a porn habit is not wizardly but rather pea normalfag behaviour because that's what normalniggers do. Anyone obsessed with sex is a failed normalnigger or normalfaggot.

 No.215886

Porn is unwizardly. You're not really wiser than any normie if you watch porn and rather just an easy target for consuming patterns created by normies who want you to stay invested in these things. You are not only castrating yourself spiritually, you are also getting finessed by greedy normies if you fall for their games and watch porn. You're nothing special and just another loner who jerks off to porn, a mass consumer and hypocrite walking the exact path that the system has set up for losers to keep them consuming.

 No.215888

>>215885
>>215886
Normies all agree that porn is bad and shameful and that you should quit and get a real girlfriend. Shaming men for having a sexual outlet that doesn't hurt anyone in the privacy of their own home is exactly the normalfag position LOL

 No.215889

Absolute mental illness. Stop your obsession over sex, masturation. Who gives a fuck. Rub your dick for 5 mins a day if you want. It is not important or significant.

 No.215890

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>>215888
>Normies all agree that porn is bad and shameful
No they don't. The majority of cultures from the first, second, and third worlds are all universally making pornography more accessible. What is taboo now is to discriminate against or even vocally disparage against those who view pornography on the regular. There's porn on TV, in online ads, and sold in book stores. Public parades are hailed in celebration of homosexual pornography with military-level security protection. Stores selling giant horse cock dildos pay less taxes as a reward for selling "safe medical" devices. It's stunning how there are people like you who are so cooped-up that your entire "understanding" of our current societies comes your own idealistic vision of what these societies ought to be. Well bad news, porn is the most "normal" thing there is, and while you won't be able to change that any time soon, you can change yourself by understanding that an unhealthy society's unhealthy habits should not be indulged in.

This of new-wave of R9K2K13 style
>ebil gnormies hate le single man! they bully us for just BEE-ing ourselves! they will make our lives HELL if they discover we are teh virgin!
sentiment around here is totally inorganic.

 No.215891

>>215890
If porn is so normalized, next time someone asks you what you did last weekend, tell them you masturbated to pornography and had a really good time. They will think you're a sick weirdo. But if you say you had sex with someone, they will think you're a cool guy and they will probably give you a high five and congratulate you, maybe even ask about details.

Yeah, most men watch porn and jerk off, but it's still a shameful thing and all of them would agree that it's bad and that having a real partner would be "healthier" because ejaculating on your own is undeserved and shameful. Nofap is just a way to shame low status men and force them into shitty relationships with females so they can satisfy a basic urge. It won't do anything for you in terms of health or productivity, at best it's a temporary placebo where you psych yourself out. You can be productive and watch porn, those things are not mutually exclusive.

 No.215892

>>215891
>They will think you're a sick weirdo
no
they
won't.
You just assume they will because it would be logical for them to. But society isn't all that logical these days.

 No.215894

>>215888
>Normies all agree that porn is bad and shameful and that you should quit and get a real girlfriend. Shaming men for having a sexual outlet that doesn't hurt anyone in the privacy of their own home is exactly the normalfag position LOL
You're an absolute retard if you really think that normies oppose porn when its the most browsed content online besides social media. Also social media and normie media in general keeps getting more and more pornographic and the only people who oppose it usually have mire fringe views and beliefs.

>>215891
You're getting your whole perception off the internet. I knew plenty normie guys at work or school who would openly say stuff such as that they are gonna jerk off to the hub tonight and normies usually think its funny because they can somehow relate, some normie guys even show off the porn they watched if it had something quirky in it to laugh about.

Its just like drugs, so many normies do them but no one wants to be the "junkie". If you're a rich rapper guy or a cool stoner then you can pull this off better than some bum in the streets who shits himself on crack. If you're a likeable normie guy you can also say that you watched porn or jerked off and guys will relate but if you're a sperg then you're just a weirdo.

The whole low social status stuff is just a normie trickery, a lot of normies like to deceive and lie to appear as if they are superhumans, they lie about their shitty relationships and addictions especially to people who they see below them and that's a typical pattern online where its easy to make up a personality.

Just take a step into the actual normie world and you will notice that they are 90% brainless consumers who wouldn't complain about anyhting as long as they get their basic needs met.

 No.215895

>>215894
>You're getting your whole perception off the internet. I knew plenty normie guys at work or school who would openly say stuff such as that they are gonna jerk off to the hub tonight and normies usually think its funny because they can somehow relate, some normie guys even show off the porn they watched if it had something quirky in it to laugh about.

>Its just like drugs, so many normies do them but no one wants to be the "junkie". If you're a rich rapper guy or a cool stoner then you can pull this off better than some bum in the streets who shits himself on crack. If you're a likeable normie guy you can also say that you watched porn or jerked off and guys will relate but if you're a sperg then you're just a weirdo.


I can confirm what anon is saying.

Some of us have had some experience with the outside world, in the past, and so have been able to observe normie behavior from up close.

 No.215896

Uh oh! It's a "Who's spent more time out of the house" contest now!

 No.215897

>>215896
No its just that you can't base your whole perception of normies on what you see online.

 No.215898

>>215897
Nobody here is doing that though.

 No.215899

>>215894
>A lot of normies like to deceive and lie to appear as if they are superhumans, they lie about their shitty relationships and addictions especially to people who they see below them and that's a typical pattern online where its easy to make up a personality.
When normies have a meltdown or open up they always complain about their relationships being unsatisfying because their partner sucks or how their friends are assholes and how their social circle consists of drama or how they feel lonely. Of course they are often better off than people like me or other outcasts but what they display is always a facade to mask their own problems and in the long run they also suffer from a lack of purpose like everyone else (which is also why normies often suddenly kill themsleves or fuck themselves up with drugs or impulsive decisions in their 40s on average). If you're somehow weird or autistic then that's like an open wound and its just typical normie behavior to unload all their frustration on the weirdos. Normies have a lot of hidden anger and sadness.

 No.217057

we should open a nofap noporn thread and post our updates and changes in our health.

 No.217064

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90% bullshit and 10% true

the true thing about nofap is that gives you extra energy, thats all nofap will do for you. This can be both a good thing or a bad thing, its up to you to decide.

if someone tells you anything other than the practical effects, know that all they say is bullshit and you should not take it serious. The nofap community now is worse than ever thanks to retarded people who think nofap is a solution for every problem they have in life.


So, you need some extra energy? if yes, do nofap for a period, 1 month, 2 months, you decide, and you will get it. Once you achieve the thing you wanted to do with that energy boost, go back to your natural fap schedule and do it nofap again when you need.

Everything else is fake, dont even get into schizo esoterical nofap thing because you will become delusional, its the same feeling of guilt that religion imposes on people with a different skin, don't fall for it. instead, look at nofap as a tool like fasting is a tool
for some people, there's nothing special or mystical about it, It's just you regulating bodily functions to your advantage. If fapping feels right to you there's absolutely nothing wrong with it and don't let anybody else tell you shit. trust your gut feelings. only your can decide if its good or not

 No.217067

>>217064
What all these retards don't understand is that most of the issues come from porn consumption and usually not from sole masturbation. Porn is the thing that makes everything so impulsive and volatile and many nofapers are just seriously addicted to porn or they have mental issues that cause them to have no impulse control over their masturbation habits.

Some of the supposed benefits make no sense and I agree with you on that but overcoming porn and unhealthy masturbation habits improves your life a lot and it always depends on how severe the case is, for many men it is life changing.

 No.217068

>>217064
So you failed to properly learn the exercises and here you are, being an utter crab in the bucket about it. Not so inusual…
>go back to natural fap schedule
Oh, yeah. So you may need to make efforts again and lose more health an brain fluids.
>deridement of schizo stuff
ok, cuck we knew it you all the time. Probably a tr00ntard who hates straight men and has its health destroyed due mixing drugs, hormones and fap attempting to consolate the fact of others liking it even less due to some expensive yet deficient tr00ntamorphosis.

>>217065

Ignore the cuck. He knows it well, already.

>>217067
>only from porn
So fools decide to publicly believe what they wish to look like more dignified or healthy or whatever while just being another bunch of miserable, brain ruined coomers.
>nofapers are addicted to porn
That's the point = They try to get out of it.

Wizards are weak. You can just see how damaged the userbase is in health issues, the way they talk about it.

Read Chapter 6: https://es.scribd.com/document/98799469/Danielreid-The-tao-of-health-sex-and-longevity

 No.217071

>>217057
r/semenretention

 No.217073

Abstaining from wanking would be a good idea. Building a culture and ideology around it is silly. It used to be common knowledge that only losers and caged animals were masturbators. It is what men did in prison.

When people tell you masturbation is normal, they are laughing at you and making you a prisoner. It's Germanic fag behavior. It's not normal, and it is certainly not normal to do it every day. If it is done at all, young men do it because they're lonely and they know they're not getting anything in the mating game. It's probably better to wank then, see that there really is nothing, and figure out that behind the games and facade, it really is all a lie. The real healing has nothing to do with a biological function, and everything to do with finding something in this world that is better than this shit.

Usually behind a masturbation addiction is a sad man whose body is in chronic pain, and he is told "this is all you will ever know, we will torture you forever". It's sadistic and porn is designed to accelerate that. They use that shit to torture prisoners at black sites, you know that right? That's how much your rulers hate you.

Nofap has the effect of "responsibilizing" someone without any grounding as to what you are to do. It's promoted by fundies to herd people into become Nazi fags, and they are the purest fags. Antisexualism generally though is a good thing, because sex is disgusting. The sooner it is replaced with artificial insemination or anything else, the better it will be. So many men have already stopped pretending. There are self-castrators out there who are very happy with this choice, bypassing the tranny shit. It's common enough that most men won't give them shit, and bitches will always be bitches. Anyone worthwhile is far too busy to tell people what they're supposed to do with their gonads, but Nazis and fags love their insinuation game. It's disgusting, and they've been rewarded by the institutions for being kapos in the concentration camp.

If you have something to live for and a purpose that isn't supplied to you as an ideology, but something in your bones telling you this shit is wrong, you have the strength to do something better, and the appeal of wanking is nil. The thought of doing that makes me sick. The worst is seeing the insinuation game played by Those People and their actions being encouraged by management and the society, all with funding. They do not suffer like the rest of us, and they know the thrill of torture must be maximized. That is their god. Anyone encouraging any part of that shitfest should be dragged out and boiled alive for the dire need of security for the world and all in it.

If you actually like wanking though, there's something you're getting out of it. I think if you have any commitment to this, you would have realized how much you hate the act before you had the realization "hey, I don't have to do this any more, and I could do literally anything else for self-soothing and it's far better". I got sick of it after the first few wanks of my life and wish I never started, but a lonely teenaged boy losing his mind went to dark places and I was stuck with it. It really is a big nothing, and it was all a big nothing. I wish I didn't spend any effort on the lie and the false sense that I needed "social proof" - but that's entirely a result of living in a fucking concentration camp with mass drugging, poisoning, and this Masonic hell they want to make. They're all assholes for doing any of it, but humanity really is a failed race. When you think about that, why on earth would anyone want to contribute anything to that? I can't even bring myself to fantasize about "that" any more on most days, and when I do, I tell myself "this is about going through the motions and entirely about turning away from the game, in the last part of the world where it can be the way it should have been if humans weren't so fucking disgusting". So, I have a pseudo-relationship with the "tulpa", who is aware of its purpose and reminds me that all of this shit isn't real and that there are far better things to do. A consequence of this is that you really do give up on this world and certainly give up on human society and any of its institutions. The world isn't guilty of anything though. Nothing in the world required us to be this, and the world keeps telling humanity to stop doing what it's doing, a result which many of us have known all along but that certain assholes insisted we have to follow because no one can tell them no, nosiree.

With porn, I keep asking what men think they're getting out of it. They do realize those succubi all want you dead, and they're taking orders from Israeli gangsters? That's why we have so much porn in this country. Any sane society would not allow ubiquitous pornography to be normalized, and would not forbid any constructive image of human families, would not tell children from birth their fate is to prostitute themselves, to become catamites and sold into the most grotesque slavery. It's outrageous that this is thrown in everyone's face and we're told "this is the only world there is", when we could easily do something else - and it's not that people don't find something else eventually or share that. But, when it comes to the "great game" we're supposed to believe that these Satanic orgies and sex cult rituals are the only "real sex", when the reality is that it's all eugenics and the favored classes are exempted from this torture. All of this is for the slaves and the drivers, while a few people are allowed to lord over us and tell us they're gods. Anything to keep up this failed system we've lived under since 1914.

 No.217083

>>217073
>Building a culture and ideology around it is silly
Think it twice, it makes the worthy knowledge about it remain alive, unforgotten.
>common knowledge
Rumours are easily blinding whoever delivers his mind to them. But wait? How does this turn you into a nazi?

 No.217100

>>210731
I second this >>210733
>>compare ejaculation with blood donation and you'll see the fallacy
The only fallacy is I see is the false equivalency
of comparing seamen with blood.

Anyhow this little source is just gook bullshit religious babble. It is equally relevant to someone quoting the bible on how often you need to wash your hands. Quit being a faggot and do what you want for whatever reasons you want, don't give others this religious bullshit.

 No.217125

>>217100
>Quit being a faggot and do what you want for whatever reasons you want, don't give others this religious bullshit.
This mindset is the reason why the world gets even shittier

 No.217127

>>217071
>reddit
that is precisely where all this normalfag nofap nonsense belongs

 No.217128

>>217127
t. doesn't know monks from millenia ago from different parts of the world practiced it and started abstinence practices

Read a book, dummy.

 No.217134

Jews are great at promoting pornography and race-mixing. A sort of interacial porn known as "Blacked" results from combining the two; this subgenre of porn encourages our dear vhite succubi to begin dating and engaging in sexual activity with Black people. Israel is an ethnostate that promotes trash to western culture in an attempt to lessen the influence of white people. If you don't worship Moloch or Baal, you won't be allowed to be a citizen. As a result of troll media and goods containing high levels of soy and seed oils, white men in America now have much less testosterone than they did fifty years ago. This means that fewer offspring are born, which lowers birthrates, while black males fuck several white succubi without any protection. (The idea that condoms prevent child support is simply beyond their primitive intellect.)

 No.217150

>>217127

indeed, let any of you have a look at those several posts at r/semenretention to finish the doubts once and for all

>>217128
you know something in wizchan is valuable when the antibuzzword snowflake cuck gets itchy about it

 No.217156

nofap no porn goes with the philosophy of the site.

 No.217159

Coomers getting nervous when they get called out like a bunch of redditors. Failed normalfag behavior, you might as well bow down and kiss the feet of any normie who manages to get you hooked on consuming patterns. You're spiritually dead, some even more so than normies. Absolutely no respect for faggots who try to make their porn obsession look normal.

 No.217161

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I know this is just sort of saying "me-too" but for what it's worth even though I knew porn was bad for you, I had no idea how bad until I actually quit. It's easily on par with drug addiction.

 No.217162

>>217134
I think you're weird and suspicious for knowing a website called "blacked" in the first place

 No.217164

>>217162
Blacked is one of the most popular normie porn memes that you can hear on every discord server and twitch stream

 No.217166

porn addiction is not a real addiction and i don't know why people keep saying that shit.

if you stop watching porn for weeks you wont feel any withdrawals.

you are just BORED. Admit it.


Porn may be the most elaborated habit forming thing in the world, but its not chemical, STILL a habit. no matter how much you cry about it. Just keep your fucking mind out of it for a couple weeks, cmon man

in the end its a ego thing. Internally you are screaming "i WANT to feel that i conquered something very hard", when in reality is a extremely simple process.

 No.217167

>>217166
>ts not chemical,
There are brain chemicals and synapse patterns which are released exclusively when performing or watching acts of sex. Try harder when trying to downplay the unhealthy consequences of pornography.

 No.217173

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>>217164
>discord server and twitch stream

 No.217726

It makes a lot of sense to stop watching porn as a virgin for your own mental well being.

 No.217727

People should stop having this kind of discussion expecting immediate result. Pleasure is designed to addict and fool, it is not trivial, not even mildly hard, it is insanely difficult to see through it and abandon it.

We need to let the seed grow. An individual confronted with an opinion contradicting his infatuation with porn, no matter if he wants it or not, will pay attention. The notion will worm into his mind and remain there, waiting. If you start gaslighting him with some dumbass retarted reasons to stop jerking off NOW, he will mentally mark your opinion as invalid and thus the seed dies. Let him bear with it. Let him be angry with you. Just wait and remind sometimes. And the day comes when he is put exactly in the right life situation, where he can clearly observe the bad influence of porn on him. And when he notices it, he will stop watching porn.

I never thought much of you furious nofappers, most of you act like a bunch of retards. I'd never quit watching porn because of your retarded opinions and fixations. It was not until I started paying attention to my feelings that I discovered that porn and jerking off give me immediate pleasure, but in longer term make feel much worse. And then I quit. It took months to confirm the patterns, but I was consistently arriving at the conclusion that gooning is killing me mentally and physically and raw occasional rubbing fails to satisfy any particular needs at all. At this point I jerk off simply because I do not want to occasionally coom in my bed after a wet dream. Cleaning up that mess is abominable.

 No.217729

>>217167
Sholmo not sending his best

 No.217792

>>213162
exercise, do something physically demanding everyday, running or going on long walks are two examples


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