No.220551[View All]
Being skinnyfat is /wiz/ manifest on your body. It's through no fault of your own that it happens: you didn't overeat, nor were you particularly lazy. Rather, being socially and mentally deficient forced you inside, where you moved less and less vigorously than the average normalfaggot child would.
The normalfaggot child, through no skill, hard work, or determination of their own, built a genetically normal amount of muscle over a long period of time just by being outside and moving with their other normalfaggot friends. They ate more than you, they enjoyed the fruits of life more than you, and they worked so much less harder than you— and they were rewarded for it with physical desirability.
The normalfaggot, then grown up, grows arrogant, and thinks themselves special, even though they put no effort into the good things that life and their sociability gave them. With this attitude set, they spit venom at the lazy, ugly, disgusting skinnyfat people.
Fuck this condition.
50 posts and 4 image replies omitted. Click reply to view. No.225293
>>224301>>224299Do what feels fulfilling to you, anons. People value different things. That's okay, chasing these phantoms online reveals the things you fear the most.
No.225294
>>225292Anon, really think if someone who interacts online like you do comes across as a secure and confident person. Say whatever you want but randomly trying to taunt strangers and being antagonistic on wizchan says alot more about you than it does the people you're trying to be violent towards
No.225295
>>225294>being antagonistic on wizchan says alot more about you than it does the people you're trying to be violent towardsIt says that I'm not a pansy. You trying to de-escalate and promote sedentary lifestyles says a lot about you (that you're a fag)
No.225297
>>225295>sedentary lifestyle funny thing is, a 9 to 5 office worker with a car is also a sedentaryphage
No.225298
>>225295Of course, anon. You're definitely not insecure and unsure of yourself at all. Thats why you're the alpha male screaming fag this and that, you're not threatened at all by random strangers. No, definitely not. You totally act like a regular chad would and not some emotionally fragile autist with anger issues.
Chill out man it isnt that deep, not everyone is out to get you
No.225299
>>225297If you're not regularly taking smoke breaks from your job carrying 300+ pound industrial pipes to go deadlift and eat raw venison, can you really call yourself a man?
No.225301
>salty femboy triggered by the presence of man on a website for men, projects with sarcasm and by calling others insecure
No.225303
>>225301>triggered, "no UR projecting" goofy aaaaaaa XDi fucking LOVE being ugly to strangers online YES FINALLY more HATE in the world HAHAHA YES more petty ARGUMENTS FOREVER AND EVER TILL THE world is filled with SEETHING AND ANGER AND SHIT everyone is WRONG BUT ME. blood FOR THE BLOOD GOD
i legitimately hope one day no one has to feel like this. Look in any discussion anywhere and there is always one person being provocative and trying to start shit, its like they're possessed by a demon or something and they have to try and hurt people for sustenance. Its fucking draining, you try and treat people like they're humans capable of mistakes and they use that to try and suffocate you with it. Why are you like this anon, why is a quarter of the world population just little loosh farmers like you. Its like a hard coded instinct embedded in the human psyche to ensure there will always be conflict forever and ever. Do you feel like you want to win this? There is no winning this, if you engage at all on either side of bad faith arguments or shitflinging both sides lose. We could build each other up but tearing someone down is just too irresistible. Stamp on them. Beat them. Civil discussion is just for fags anyway, right? Lets just tear at each other until we're both bloody from spite. I forgot that this world forces you to hurt others and abandon your own innocence. No one deserves compassion or fair treatment, lets just drown together. The god of this world is one of misery and insanity
No.225306
>>225303An absolute meltdown.
No.225308
>>225306all of you interact and speak exactly the same way. Any sincerity you mock, any criticism you deflect to protect whatever it is you are. I've talked to so many people exactly like you, Ive had this same conversation so many times where all of you play the exact same cards in the same order. You are so focused on hating me that you disregard anything I actually say, if you really didn't care and were so unaffected and above everything you wouldn't feel the need to get the last word in but you have to in order to protect your own ego. None of you ever respond honestly, or with any kind of substance. Its all just the same low effort provocative comments delivered exactly the same way every single fucking time. First its the attacks on my character, deflecting all criticism by pulling the "youre projecting card", next is the " wow youre having lel melty" whenever I go offscript and show a bit of humanity. You legitimacy act like some taunting demon like in the exorcist. Just trying to cause me any kind of pain you think you can do to me.I don't know man, i don't want that for myself. Thats just a real sad ending down that path of becoming so bitter and mean you start pissing vinegar. Unironically thanks for the reminder that i still have a ways to go, I did get taunted a bit. Not as much as last time though and I'll be over this one even sooner I think.
Goodnight anon, I legitimately don't want to hate anyone. It can be a bit frustrating but you have your own reasons for acting the way you do, applying emotional pressure makes or breaks people. I have a clearer vision of who I want to be. I really don't believe someone who is at peace and clear minded and satisfied with themselves would act the way you do, in that way we are more similar than we are different. In the end, we both used each other for whatever selfish purpose we had. I hope we both are able to find our own peace with ourselves. Thank you for being an imaginary fren for this short moment in time
No.225311
>>225308I am not reading a sentence of that, and I don't believe anyone else will either.
No.226287
>>220551Found a professional-grade stationary bike by the side of the road and it still works. The mechanism that controls the level of resistance is all electromagnetic and quiet as a whisper. Gets my heart rate up decently. Omw to being a fitwiz.
No.226288
>>220558yess, it isn't a big deal, some wizards exaggerate, and I think that they like crying sometimes
No.226291
you need to seek help. and im not talking about your body
No.226323
>>221170>I can't afford a dentist or a 12000 dollar operation on my root canals. I can afford a tub of toothpasteits 25000 RUB in Moscow, broplems werent
No.227007
>>225298>>225303>>225308i enjoyed reading your battle w/ the giant enemy crab
No.227298
I do calisthenics at night in a public park. There are daylight fags who keep moving stools and concrete weights but I've never seen them as I avoid everyone and anyone. I've worked out for a year and a half and haven't talked about or told a single soul about it. Groids would probably have made hundreds of hours of vapid tiktoks or whatever.
I'm 33 and feel 20 now.
Highly recommend.
No.227318
>It's been about three months since I dont use my computer, except for useful things.
A few days ago, I stopped my routine of fapping. I don't know how it happened, I guess I just got fed up with it. I started waking up early when the sun was just rising and going for a walk on a nearby beach. I walk barefoot for a while on the grass and sand and along the shore by the water while the sun rises. I stay there, sit, alone, for a while, facing the sun, listening to the wind and sound of little waves, maybe an hour and a half, just breath or watching anything and it's peaceful, quiet and solitary, and it feels mystical. I think it helps with my sadness. Since I've been doing this, I don't feel so many worries or suicidal thoughts and everyday is less and less.
I also started doing neck exercises and others types of exercises to improve my posture. Why? I dont know, the idea just appeared in my head maybe it can be healthy. I also started reading a little bit here
/dep/>>303398
I don't feel interested in self-improvement or anything like gym muscle dudes, but I feel peace and interest in my health. Maybe a little breathwork and exercise cant be bad.
No.227324
>>227009>sickfuck wants everyone to be a sick malnourished subhuman parasite prone to sickness just like himselfNietzsche talks about this
No.227325
>>227324>Nietzsche talks about thisReally? And what does he says?
I've tried reading his "thus spoke zarathustra", but I had no patience for that stinking pile of whimsical fiction and riddles pretending to have some deeper meaning.
No.227330
Did some exercising and eating healthy for a year or so. It was a new experience but I got bored of it eventually so I dropped it. As someone who doesn't want to bother with dating and stuff like that it seems too much of a bother to me, all this fit stuff. I can understand some people just do it to be "healthy" and yeah I guess that's cool but it's not for me. I like eating delicious junk food and I like lazing around too much. Nowadays I only use exercise bike for a couple of hours a day and watch my weight so I don't get fat again, I think this is a nice middle ground for a lazy person like myself. Also, when I was trying to get fit I ended up with pretty much all of my body parts aching so much after a year that I could barely do anything so I had to stop because of the pain too. First it was my arm during push-ups, then my knee when doing squats…I'm just too weak I guess.
>>227325Zarathustra is the most overrated piece of philosophical work ever, maybe on par with Plato's works only when it comes to being overrated. Worst writing of Nietzsche by far. Read Beyond Good and Evil, The AntiChrist, Gay Science if you want to actually read meaningful stuff from him.
No.227333
>>227330>>227325>>227324>NietzscheOne day I read a summary of Nietzsche's thinking and philosophy by a anon somewhere, and basically it said that everyone should create their own ideal and philosophy without following a standard dogma such as Judeo-Christianity or wathever religion, as the ancient Greeks did and other pagans and prophets did when fighting against other dogmatic ideals of their time (before they ended up creating a new religion or destroyed other old ideas after a radical or dogmatic asshole appeared and made a goverment-control mass religion) in order to follow their own will without screwing others will over, and thus one would teach their best ideals on others who are crude and want us to be submissive and weak. A pure human focused idea. Although Nietzsche did not seem to defend social Darwinist or deterministic ideas
I believe that secular humanism as a philosophy that surpasses the rest of stupidity non-human comes close to Nietzsche's ideals bacause is focused in humanity topic or human experience than religious, political or philosophies dogma.
No.227334
>>227333>>227333You should just read him yourself and save yourself the trouble, really. Interpret him as you like, without relying on others' opinions. He is a complex writer and it's possible to draw widely different conclusions about his philosophy.
>secular humanismI wouldn't say that about his philosophy at all…If anything his ideology was a reaction to the secular humanism of his time (marxism and the cultural nihilism that came with it).
When Nietzsche says make up your own ideal he doesn't say that everyone should do whatever he wants to, oh no. It's the opposite. The powerful people shouldn't be tied down by already established morality and herd-thinking, that's what he says. Nietzsche wasn't an individualist in the sense we use that word nowadays, he was against the idea that your average everyday person decides for himself what is right or wrong. He made it clear numerous times that most people are only good for obeying commands and serving the intellectually privileged people. His ideal Übermensch-role models were all morally questionable and powerful men in history, like Caesar or Napoleon.
People nowadays like to portray Nietzsche as some anarchist or liberal but he really was a proto-nazi in many ways. Have no doubt that if he was alive at the time of Hitler, he would have approved of most of his methods and goals.
No.227402
I eat healthy and exercise daily mostly due to being a shut-in. I think I'll always have a bit of a visible stomach though as I have awful posture when sitting which creates a pelvic tilt.
No.227429
>>220783>my bone shape is odd. It isn't. Bone isn't soft, dumbass. You can go on and keep losing fat, you'll see that skinnyfatness is simply a matter of having no muscle under the fat.
It is however correlated with things like shitty hip:shoulder ratio so even if you get fit you probably won't look good.
>>220551See above. Being skinnyfat is literally just a matter of
>no muscle>too much fatNormal fat guys look big because they've got muscle underneath. Normal guys can carry a bit of fat and retain a nice shape due to the muscle. Skinny guys have no fat.
You can build muscle and lose fat. The former is much harder for you because you've probably got low testosterone, but it's doable. And literally anyone can just lose fat to go skelly mode.
No.227430
>>221894>lost over 35 kg…by eating less kcal than your TDEE. it doesn't matter what proxy you track in your head, 1kg of fat = 7700kcal. eat in deficit and you will lose weight.
in 2025 all this shit is common fucking knowledge, stop spreading misinformation and scams from decades past.
No.227431
>>227430>>227430look, here's trick.
Apparently, sugary stuff stimulates appetite - the last thing you need if losing weight. So, eating *less* carbs and *little to no* sugar while eating veggies, fish, poultry, eggs for fiber and protein - even with fats - is a trick to avoid eating too much.
No.227432
>>227431>inb4 proofsThis:
Bas Kast, "The Diet Compass".
The book is full of references.
No.227433
>>227431>Apparently, sugary stuff stimulates appetiteSounds like a willpower issue - a topic that doesn't have a place in the scientific discussion of nutrition
No.227435
>>227433Nah, the *willpower* is closer to the idea of not consuming sweets/candies/soda once you bought them already
I am talking about the idea sugar is associated with abundance, fresh food season and such - so sugar makes your appetite sharper on top of the part where you need volition to not eat all tasty stuff in one go
No.227436
>>227435I think maybe you don't fully speak English, and that you don't actually understand the meaning of the words being argued against yours.
No.227438
>>227436>>227436True, ESL
and I am phoneposting thus cannot use AI to translate this tgread
No.227439
>>227433>Sounds like a willpower issueAre you ESL too, cuz your post is unrelated? Anyway the fuck do you know about willpower?
No.227441
>>227436i understand the part where one has to eat less calories in general
my point was… well, aimed at a related yet not defined question -
HOW to eat less.
I am not very good at communicating when I post from work, sorry. I guess I have to cut my onlineposting procrastination ==and quit boards==
No.227445
>>227435>Sugar and sweetsI associate Sugar and Sweets more with kids and deppresion.
Sad and deppresive people have tendency to consume more sugar-industrial things in their anxiety experiences as a unhealthy coping mechanism sometimes.
>AlsoI believe Soda, some sugar products and Gluten fuck my sleep behaviours and my mood.
I dont have proof but i tested it sometimes. That's why consume little soda sometimes and little sugar things now.
>SoDrink more clean water and maybe not in plastic bottles. Clean your house or bedroom.
Take a walk and take sunbath and walk in sand in beach and meditate around the wind in these places like a contemplation of nature.
No.227447
>>227445Ah, I get it now.
THey say gluten does *random* things to some people so maybe you are the "gluten-free life needed" type and it's not just a fad in your case.
>I associate Sugar and Sweets more with kids and deppresion.In my case, it's … close to that! When I drink sugary soda, my acne (30+ and acne… shame on me( ) gets somewhat worse. And yet I cannot get rid of it. Maybe I have this "ought to not eat wheat" trick in my DNA too?
No.227454
>>227447It's not a "fad". Hundreds of millions of people have wheat allergy or just general gluten intolerance, and many are so stubborn and refuse to believe it, they rather put up with stomach pains, severe skin reactions and brain blur instead of just buying gluten free.
Worst case I met was a right wing guy who lumped in gluten free with feminism and "wokeness". An absolute retard of a celiac who destroyed his gut by continuing wheat despite his body rejecting it.
No.227457
>>227431Sure, you can do that. Or you can just eat less of whatever you normally eat. You will lose weight regardless.
The only variables that matter to weight loss are calories in and caloreies out. How you reduce your calories in - by counting, by switching up your diet, whatever - and how you increase your calories out - running, cycling, lifting, not at all - is up to you. Just get the deficit going.
No.227458
>>227441>related yet not defined question - HOW to eat less.the most straightforward way, used since antiquity, is to literally just eat less. there are no special tricks. just keep track of what you eat and, well, do less of it.
nowadays it's very simple and deterministic because every food item has a known caloric value. keep a spreadsheet.
No.227494
>>227458let's find a middle ground here: its easier to eat less if you have less appetite.
And, to my knowledge:
1. Eating vegetables can *sate* someone for less calories
2. IIRC, sugar does the opposite: stimulates 0ne's appetite.
No.227549
>>227494If you eat less, your brain will habituate and have less appetite. Hunger pangs are triggered by the nervous system, and they happen when it expects you to normally eat.
The biggest single thing you can do is entirely stop eating outside of defined mealtimes. That way you stop feeling hunger pangs between meals in a week or two. And after that controlling intake is trivial.
Of course, some foods are designed to make you crave more, so losing weight on McDonald's is more difficult. But still possible, I've done it.
No.227557
>>227454>It's not a "fad". Hundreds of millions of people have wheat allergy or just general gluten intolerance, and many are so stubborn and refuse to believe it, they rather put up with stomach pains, severe skin reactions and brain blur instead of just buying gluten free.ah, ill switch to rye bread, maybe ill buy some in bulk+cut it+freeze it, ok
No.227561
Checking in: Down 5 lbs since Christmas. I switched to calorie deficit, aiming for 1900 calories per day. Also I've been lifting a bit and it's helping too. Thanks anons! I have many failures but the good days are enough for results in the end.
My father is having heart disease issues and he isn't that old… lit the fire for me. I gotta get healthy.
Healthy breakfast (small), big lunch, minimal snack after, no dinner, and 12 to 16 hour fasting clocks me in at sub-2,000 calories. I was running at least 3,500 calories before I started this and it was showing.
No.227567
>>227561>snacksyou're making this unnecessarily difficult for yourself. stop snacking and you will stop craving snacks pretty quickly, it's an addiction
No.227576
OK, lemme tell something. Ive lost a beltful of fat throughout last 4½ years.
I am not going to say the kilos, but I tell you: the belt that felt tight back in 2021 is now a bit too loose for me to use it without punching a new hole in it!
No.227583
>>227576Solid work! Good problem to have.
>>227567Fair point. Sugar and additives are there to sell product. They gotta go.
No.227587
>>227583>>227567Oh, yeah, the sugar. The snacks.
All the sugar I tend to eat gives me acne. So I don't carry sweets-sweets around anymore. No harm to drink some sweetened green tea, I thought, so I got me some.
I also think my coffee also gives me some acne too…
regards,
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