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 No.311496[Last 50 Posts]

do beverages even make sense? do they deserve to exist? i don't think so. beverages are shit. i question the general concept behind them. when i see someone drink lemonade i instantly consider that person an idiot; that someone who is drinking sugary industry juice because they made it taste nice. that's someone who was tricked into selfharm to me.

myself i like to drink fruit juices. i very much believe in the juices i make myself from real fruit. a fresh juice from an apple? that's so nice that everything else compared feels like a waste. occasional get distracted and resort to buying in boxes from the supermarket. currently i drink nothing but water. drinking only water is fine too though. that's plenty especially when the food is as dense as modern food. that's plenty for the body.

AND THEN FAT PEOPLE LIKE TO BUY CASES AND CASES OF STUPID STUFF THEY DRINK THAT THE FACTORY MADE. SOME EVEN HAVE ALCOHOL IN THEM 😆

people drinking alcohol is so funny to me. i use 99% isopropyl alcohol to dissolve spraypaint off when some asshole spraypaints my car. and the same stuff people drink for fun. that's just more self-harm. why they keep harming themselves.

 No.311497

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i don't know how real the colors in this video are; they might be exaggerated. they could be real though because some times when juicing stuff, those surprisingly bright colors appear.

 No.311498

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i use this juicer, it's a lazy man's juicer. juice purists would rage at this. they swear these slower juicers are better but they are too much work. using them is like having an additional child to feed.

i use this lazy juicer because all i have to do is to buy a bag of apples. the apples fit into the hole in the top of the juicer without me having to cut the apple into smaller pieces. with the slower juicers the fruit has to be cut into chunks first which is annoying.

bag of apples 2kg or 3kg is costing me 2€-3€ and yields ~1,5liter of juice.

during the summer when it is hottest, i eat nothing and only drink the juice. this practice is called juice fasting.

for me usually works like this: i stop buying regular food and only buy fruits for a few days and then as i run out of other food because i ate it all, i stop buying anything but juice-able fruit. apples, grapes, watermelon, cucumbers, tomato. and then i use the juicer all day and occasionally a few bites of fruit but mostly juicer.

i've done that for weeks. 3 weeks only juice, 10 weeks only fruit. the fruit juice is alive and alive food is different from the dead food the industry provides.

 No.311499

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when all i ingest is watermelon, after maybe 2-5 days the poop that comes out is bright pink. startled me the first time. it is pink and as the days go on the poops become more frequent and quicker and less complicated. pooping then happens 3 times a day and it takes seconds to poop and there is hardly any wiping necessary and it doesn't smell nasty.

for me it was the discovery that the human body is not that different from a car. depending on what fuel you put in the tank, your engine will run better or worse. fruit juice is precise manual fueling of the human body. it is pure, there are barely any emissions and the energy is higher. all day every day. there is never a lack of energy, it is infinite energy cheat. ability to do stuff all day every day. it is the exact opposite of "everything is so tiring". nothing is tiring.

while juice fasting you could spend a day jogging around and then still have enough energy to go dancing in the evening. availability of energy stops being a determining factor. usually energy is a limiting factor but it suddenly stops to inhibit. all that is limiting is the speed of which ideas on what to do next is formed. made me realize that my body is strong and my mind is weak; here i always believed the opposite to be the case before i felt that. made me feel inadequate, like i am a incompetent manager of my own body.

i never felt like i have made good use of the energy once. i still feel like a beginner and a failure for not rearanging my life in a way that lets me make use of the energy i am feeling fully. every year i get better at it though.

 No.311500

Not much difference, I've gotten fat drinking too much juice thinking it was healthier.

 No.311501

>op doesn't know what words mean again

Juice is a kind of beverage.

Wtf do you think the word beverage means?

 No.311502

>>311500
>Not much difference, I've gotten fat drinking too much juice thinking it was healthier.

how do you even get fat. when you eat too much and move too little. don't you know the human body is a fun movement and dancemachine? i guess you don't. maybe you are the type of guy who prefers to sit around and plays warhammer while eating gourmet food.

juice made me in the kind of guy who likes to sit around too but can not stand it because every second i am sitting around, i could get up and practice dance moves and turn and do a kick. i wish i had known sooner how rewarding the path of being active as a human is.

>>311501
>Wtf do you think the word beverage means?

beverage sounds so official and civilized, so that it would include products made in factories that were designed by economists and food scientists that not necessarily care to help you make good decisions other then a few seconds of mouthpleasure while they weaken your teeth. beverages have gas bubbles in them and were made to have a specific color and taste.

the juice you buy in the supermarket gets pasteurized. they heat it to a very hot temperature to keep it from rotting. what if that kills the fragile good stuff? you don't know. you only know how to sage and nothing else.

i wanted to create a contrast to juice as in fresh squeezed juice from actual fruits that quickly rot because they are very sought after by the ecosystem. a beverage is shelf stable and you can easily buy it at a gas station.

a beverage is what you drink when you try to make yourself feel good.

a juice is what you drink when you are already feeling good because it is your default state and you are trying to keep it up.

 No.311504

>>311500
>I've gotten fat

every fat person could just eat less and become thin, yet most don't. they don't know how good fasting is for the human body. i never fasted long but juice fasting is similar in many ways. it is similarly beneficial but without this lack of energy, without feeling like starving.

lol one time i ate and drank too little for a few days and i was thin as a skeleton. bmi of 17.5. all my bones were sticking out 😆

 No.311505

if i had any dignity and self respect, this is how i would make juice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFSv1cAD-IM

i like the way my centrifugal juicer does it. simultaneous shredding and juicing as i press the whole apples onto the rotating shredder and the centrifugal force presses the pulp though a strainer.

but it does create quite a lot of foam and the foam is beginning to annoy me. also there are theories about how this ruins the juice by introducing too much oxygen into it. still centrifuge is the way to do it with the least hassle. i can make a juice in 2 minutes with it. cleaning it takes 5 minutes.

 No.311506

for me its coke zero, cawfeee and sometimes gweeen teee

 No.311507

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>>311506

>zero, cawfeee

 No.311508

>>311506
>gweeen teee

green tea is fine, herbs are medicine and tea is almost a herb.

but coffee makes me think of you as someone who would sink so low as to wear a suit and make someone else a lot of money. like someone who is wearing a wrist watch and schedules meetings at 11:07 because you want people to think you are so busy that you have a lot of meetings.

one arm for the coffee and then one arm for your phone and you'd need another arm to hold the razor you are constantly shaving with.

 No.311509

>>311502
You don't really get to redefine words however you want.
It just makes you sound like a idiot.

 No.311510

>>311509
>You don't really get to redefine words however you want.

i guess you don't realize that not everyone is as experienced in communicating in the english language as a native speaker would be. if i speak with someone in my native lanuage and they can barely speak it, i just lower my expectation and try to interpolate and guess the message despite the suboptimal choice of word and you would be wise to do the same.

 No.311511

>>311510
Are you really trying to moralize about you being a idiot?

 No.311512

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there is an hour long review/comparison video about the expensive one. the dude is hard to listen to though unfortunately.

 No.311513

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~2500€ is a bit much for a juicer…

 No.311514

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this dude made one from a carjack. uses stainless steel for all the parts that touch the food. material cost is 40€. i guess that means is time for me to use my tools again.

 No.311515

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a 2500€ device that requires the produce to be sliced small so small that it can be shredded to fit through the tiny hole in the top. there is no reason to design it this inconveniently. it can not even handle apples whole.

if i had to use such a hydraulic juicer, i'd probably prefer to break up the fruit into small pieces in a food processor before i squeeze it and not use the little shredder.

and at that point why even have the entire thing.

 No.311521

>>311515
>it can not even handle apples whole.
Remember to deseed them first. Potassium cyanide tastes bad.

 No.311524

juicing basically just destroys all the health benefits of fruit. The main benefit is that they have sugars that are encased in fiber which makes them harder and slower to digest which means they provide slow release energy. Fruit juices are like pre-digesting them. It breaks open all the cell walls and makes the sugars directly accessible to the GI tract meaning you basically get a big sugar rush just like if you drank some soda. That probably explains their popularity among normies. It gives you a way to eat sugar while fooling yourself into thinking it's healthy because it came from a plant so it must be healthy, right? All sugar comes from a plant, it doesn't matter where it comes from if you process it into an easily digestible form. The body treats it all the same.

 No.311527

>>311524
>The main benefit is that they have sugars that are encased in fiber which makes them harder and slower to digest which means they provide slow release energy. Fruit juices are like pre-digesting them
This is the same case with whole grains. Juicing acts as a cleanse for the same reason outright fasting does, by making your lower intestine dormant resulting in a mass death of gut bacteria. This can kill off lot of the bad stuff and bring balance to the lower biome, but it's still going to weaken and starve the good stuff. It's worse than fasting when done wrong too because the amount of sugars coupled with gut agitators such as caffeine can actually trick the gut in to working hard, but working hard against nothing. It's unnecessary stress and entanglement on the system.

 No.311529

>>311527
Woo Pseudo science.

 No.311530

>>311529
"not eating human food normally by using industrial granite crushers to radically change its physical and chemical properties is such a way that the muscular strain on the digestive system will not be able to process it" is not psuedo science you dumb hippie

 No.311531

>>311524
>juicing basically just destroys all the health benefits of fruit.

nonsense.

>The main benefit is that they have sugars that are encased in fiber which makes them harder and slower to digest which means they provide slow release energy.


there is a big difference between natural living fructose and the white powder you buy in the supermarket and there is nothing slow about it. the human body (while having the ability to digest other stuff) is evolved around fruits, vegetables and nuts. you'll find that to be true once you take a look at the organs of the human digestional tract and compare them with the animals. cow eats grass all day and has multiple stomachs, you don't have multiple stomachs and there are reasons for it you have yet to understand. fruit digests very fast. if i ate as disciplined as the body of my species expects me to, i'd poop 3 times every day, within minutes of eating it.

>Fruit juices are like pre-digesting them. It breaks open all the cell walls and makes the sugars directly accessible to the GI tract meaning you basically get a big sugar rush just like if you drank some soda.


your description and the range of your understanding is limited to the mechanical digestion. there is chemical digestion going on, which is why you don't shotgun a juice, you let it melt in your mouth as with all food. the chemical digestions in large parts happens in the mouth.

>That probably explains their popularity among normies. It gives you a way to eat sugar while fooling yourself into thinking it's healthy because it came from a plant so it must be healthy, right? All sugar comes from a plant, it doesn't matter where it comes from if you process it into an easily digestible form.


it does matter where it comes from. eat sugar for a month and fight someone who has been drinking juice for a month.

your understanding is limited and misguided. you'd be wise to do more of your own thinking.

 No.311532

>>311530
It literally is
pseudo science.

 No.311533

>>311527
>This is the same case with whole grains. Juicing acts as a cleanse for the same reason outright fasting does, by making your lower intestine dormant resulting in a mass death of gut bacteria.

i don't think it is dormant. it might appear dormant because the load you expect it to digest is reduced so much.


>This can kill off lot of the bad stuff and bring balance to the lower biome, but it's still going to weaken and starve the good stuff.


i don't think that's true. the bacteria is something i don't believe i ever need to worry about. i'm not waiting to implant the poop of healthier people like in the south park episode. besides there are few people who are more healthy then me.

my microbiome will reflect the ability of help digest the kind of food i am eating. whatever i am eating will keep those microorganisms alive that can help digest it and everything else starves. and then when i eat everything else again, the bacteria that is able to help digest it will settle in my gut once again. no good stuff is lost, there can never be shortage of bacteria, your judgement is clouded by the unnatural limitation you are used from currency systems.

>It's worse than fasting when done wrong too because the amount of sugars coupled with gut agitators such as caffeine can actually trick the gut in to working hard, but working hard against nothing. It's unnecessary stress and entanglement on the system.


coffee is what fools drink so they can meet the deadline their boss decided for them. i don't think it is unnecessary stress, drinking only juice is bringing the human organism closer to the state it was evolved to thrive in. for the modern human it is an unusual relaxation and eating bread, pasta, pizza and other factory food is the unnecessary stress.

 No.311534

>>311530
>that the muscular strain on the digestive system will not be able to process it" is not psuedo science you dumb hippie

i don't think i know what you mean when you talk about muscular stain to the dumb saging child.

 No.311536

That saging "uuh actually" guy mentioned South Park so I'm not reading anything he types

>>311534
The digestive tract needs solid food within it in order for its digestive movements to work properly. If mostly liquid, soft matter, or mucous is being digested, there is no resistance when the muscles perform. This forces the tract to overwork by trying harder to move matter that is just sloshing around. Vascularity of the tract benefits from this solid resistance too. Basically, the human digestive system is highly optimized for solid waste, and when you only feed it liquid and / or take agitators such as caffeine that forces to mucous membranes to hyperact and soften what solid food you've eaten, you're just inflicting upon regular function. The muscles responsible for digestion don't need a "break" just as the muscles that make up the heart don't. They'll still be working all the same but with reduced efficiency. Consider how muscles fall apart when someone is in Zero-G for a while. The same applies to removing resistance in the digestive tract.

If you want to do good for your digestive system, just stop poisoning it and get your fill of pre- and probiotics. Fasting is only good for expelling dead bacteria and giving new good bacteria room to flourish. Juicing is good for nothing.

 No.311537

>>311536
>That saging "uuh actually" guy mentioned South Park so I'm not reading anything he types

uuuh actually that was me, not the saging guy, i must have clicked on sage instead of noko by accident, read it you hoe, southpark was edgy once.

hmm i've done quite a few experiments with varying nutrition over the years and i never encountered the ideas you speak of where digestional muscles are not getting enough exercise. in nature during different seasons, different food is available and you mean to tell me if something isn't chewey enough my digestional system could decrease to a point where it could not increase again when the food becomes available again? i don't believe this is true. my approach to digestion is different, i don't think digestional muscles require babysitting. i've subjected myself to g-forces, heavy accelleration and decelleration, prolonged vibration, rotational forces. i try to stir up my body and exercise and sweat at least a few times every week. also i've heard stories of people who don't even have a digestional system anymore and survived by drinking olive oil through their skin.

however i do respect the idea that all muscles need to be used in order to promote lymphatic flow.

the muscles don't need a break but i do believe the idea that the digestional tract appeciates a break does hold up. apparently some people have the inner bowel walls so "caked" up with hard to digest matter that when juice flows through it, it is like a power wash. eggs are glue, ever fried an egg without fat? it sticks so hard it makes you want to throw away the pan. what makes you think your body doesn't glue shut when you eat an egg? also i believe people can be "behind on schedule" on their digestion, especially when you account for the ridiculously long digestion times some foods require. the entire gi tract becomes a complicated balancing act when the wrong food is eaten. the gi tract tries to draw the energy out of the food, which takes a lot of time because the modern wrong food is so dense, so dry and so sticky. so it has to work on this load but when it takes too long, it starts to rot while still in the body, which i believe to be a much more pressing concern then muscles not getting exercise.

>Juicing is good for nothing


blasphemy! i guess you never tried it for weeks. if you were to chew correctly, your food would already be thinner then a smoothie when you swallow it. that's almost a juice. it should be almost liquid. try to disolve something in acid, you want it to be big 1cm³ cubes or small grains of sand. fiber is nice, like a broom that runs through the body but other than that you can very much do without for a while and not miss anything.

 No.311548

made a juice yesterday from 2kg of apples from a bag. the apples were tiny, dry, old and soft. there was barely juice coming out. yielded maybe 700ml; what a ripoff.

 No.311569

>>311548
Apples are mostly not juice.
So it takes a fuck ton of apples to make apple juice regardless of the apples you use.

 No.311570

>>311569
>Apples are mostly not juice.
So it takes a fuck ton of apples to make apple juice regardless of the apples you use.

depends on the apple. they are not like watermelon, watermelon is ~90% juice and just a little bit of fiber. in apples there is quite a range of juicyness. For eating apples i focus most on the texture, i like them dense and crispy; i mostly buy breaburn for eating.

for juicing i just buy whatever. sometimes they sell 3kg of apples that are too ugly to sell them for eating. those are apples that the robots have sorted out for being crooked or have a small wound that can be easily cut off. sometimes those cost as little as 2€, sometimes even only 1,50€, which is quite the good price for 3kg. when they are good i buy like 8 bags and juice daily. those usually yield quite a lot. 3kg sometimes end up being 2 liter.

if i had a composting heap i'd dump the solids onto it and wait for it to become increadible fertile soil but since i live in a idiotic little box in the dense city i just flush it down the toilet.

 No.311579

>>311537
>apparently some people have the inner bowel walls so "caked" up with hard to digest matter that when juice flows through it, it is like a power wash.

lol who believes this shit. This is chinese medicine tier nonsense

 No.311580

>>311531
alright then mr big brain, let me ask you, what chemical form do you think the nutrients are in when you juice fruit and what do you think the body has to do to digest it and how does that differ from how the body digests sugar, and why does that make it healthier?

I'm tired of idiots like you who pretend you know shit you don't.

 No.311610

>>311580

if you did consider me an idiot, i wouldn't mind that. you erroneously assumed i came here to convince you and wanted to argue with you but i believe that is nothing but a waste of time and also it would be torture for me. give it a rest tough guy.

 No.311613

I only drink water, coffee and milk

 No.311618

>>311613

>I only drink water, coffee and milk


one morning recently i drank a big coffee from a cheap industrial bakery a few days ago. was like 400ml coffee and i put coconut milk in. drank it throughout the day from a thermos. my sleep was fucked up the following night. i wanted to sleep but i couldn't.

i think high level veganism changes the body into something that feels stuff stronger. 400ml may have been a ridiculous overdose. i should have went for 100ml or 50ml. i was a fool who bought so much because i defaulted to choosing the "best value"… facepalm.jpg

some people drink this all day every day. i think the coffee changes them into something worse.

i drink one every so often but i don't know why at this point. i don't like it and i believe it makes the human body slightly sicker. it has an interesting smell and taste, until i smell my own breath from it or stand next to people who drink coffee all day. it stinks nasty. fruit juice always makes me smell nice. i dunno if this is too much to handle for you unfortunate normies but it is true: when i only drink juice and eat fruit i don't stink anymore and my nose grews to superhuman perception levels. i wouldn't even have to shower but once a week and i would not stink. i still do it though because i worry that if i smell too good, people gonna molest me and stand close to me and when sniff me.

when i see people put industrial sugar in their coffee, to me it feels like they rain a little bit of sickness into their beverage that makes it taste "better" to them. i don't think they are smart for drinking coffee. when i hear the loud coffee machines from my neighbors i keep thinking how dumb they are to drink this and shake my head laughing.

 No.311620

again i misclicked and saged by accident. clearly the user interface of the site is made for sober people. i keep forgetting i have to click noko to stay in the thread, who wouldn't wanna stay in a thread? i guess some very motivated serial shitposter who comes into every thread just to poop in it and then go to the next. lol it is defaulted for shitposters.

 No.311623

>>311618
>coconut milk
Is not milk. If you don't want to drink from a female mammal's mammary glands, then don't, but don't try to rise up your fruity pisswater to the honor of milk by calling it such.

Also sage = rage you are butthurt lmao slapslapslap

 No.311624

>>311623
there is coconut water, which is what you get when you open up a coconut, this is the stuff i wish i could drink instead of water all day.

then there is coconut milk which is the coconutflesh blended with varying coconut contents. some thick stuff with 40% coconut and 60% water is still called coconut creme, it should be called coconutcream i guess.

i call it coconut milk because once i realized that it tastes better and digests better i no longer cared about cowmilk. it is like videocassette to me now, an old outdated format i have no reason to go back to because there is better stuff now.

the milk is meant for baby calves which are about to gain hundreds of pounds of weight, not for fullgrown humans that don't even have multiple stomachs. cows don't even have fingers you wanna put tape around your fingers and no longer use them too just like your role model the cow or just the milk because how would i know, is both equally silly to me to pretend to be a species that you aren't. maybe that is how people become furries. milk might be the gateway. i know a furry but he is a bit mad at me currently because i made fun of him being a furry so much. i always wanna know if he wants to drink from a glass or from a bowl on the floor XD

 No.311625

>>311624
>coconut milk
But its not milk. If it doesn't come from mammary glands, it's not milk.

 No.311627

>>311625
>it's not milk.

if you are this anal about it, you might as well instead say cow milk because milk could also be human milk. when you only say milk, you are rather imprecise, checkmate atheist.

 No.311628

>>311625

this is you buying a coffee next monday morning: "hello i would like one small coffee with milk please."

and then the barista ask "from which animal?"

"cow milk?!" you say confused.

"oh i'm so sorry" says the barista "we are fresh out of cowmilk but i have mealworm milk or cockroach milk"

"no big deal" you say "in that case give me the cockroach milk please"

ONE COFFEE WITH COCKROACH COMING UP!

and then the barrista takes a scoop of fresh organic cockroaches and throws it into a blender, adds a cup of hormone waste water from a pharmaceutical factory, blends it and pours it onto your coffee. enjoy anon!

 No.311629

>>311625
and then next time you order a steak, they use the same tasty cockroach milk with the addition of something like cowbonepowder so that it becomes gelatinous and pour it into a steak-shaped mould and microwave it for a few minutes and then that's your steak.

then you see me walking by, undisturbed cheerfully crunching on an apple "hay anon i hope you like your steak pff pff pff"

and then you moan and complain but you still eat it and after a while you got so used to it, that you drink the cockroach milk straight from an extruder like the hamster drinks water from a dripping upside down bottle in his cage.

no more fork, knife and spoon, you just get the top part of a baby bottle and you strech it onto your cockroachmilk extruder not unlike a condom and then you feed on it and you become so much industrialized, that you forget that there is another way to feed yourself.

 No.311631

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>>311627
>>311628
>>311629
Holy butthurt lmao

Only maple syrup is maple syrup.
>Oh but this corn syrup with dye and maltodextrin looks the same, so it must be maple syrup too
But where does the maple come from?
>Doesn't matter, it's still maple syrup in my head
This is your logic.

Only milk is milk. Any fluid that is White and sweet is not also milk because of the similar appearance. You'd think the "Deep vegan" would want to disassociate from animal products by using the word "juice" to refer to a sweet vegetable, fruit, or nut liquid, but xe/xim still clings on to "Milk". This is because vegans and synthetic animal product imitations can only sell their philosophy and slop through trickery and deceit. It's why "meat substitutes" can only sell if they're right next to real meat and refrigerated despite not needing to be. It's why the #1 selling margarine brand is only doing so well because the biggest boldest word on the carton is "BUTTER!". Try baking a shepherd's pie with cocounut "milk", what we can't believe isn't "Butter", and beyond "meat". See if you can fool yourself before trying to fool others. Retard!!!

 No.311632

>>311631

>Holy butthurt lmao

what? i was merely illustrating your love relation with the extruder. you probably eat pasta. that's just grainpaste extruded into human feeding pellets. i like how barilla sells pasta in these elegant blue boxes. it should be sold in buckets or 20kg plastic bags.

maple syrup is a delicacy to me. i wish i could always have it. probably the best way to sweeten something that there is. i like coffee with coconotmilk and honey but with coconutmilk and maple syrup that's so nice. in my supermarket they sell it maybe once or twice a year and i make sure to buy a few bottles every time. if they don't have it i get the honey, which is shameful because honey is not vegan.

>You'd think the "Deep vegan" would want to disassociate from animal products by using the word "juice" to refer to a sweet vegetable, fruit, or nut liquid, but xe/xim still clings on to "Milk".


i think a deep vegan would! calling not-milks a milk is probably just people seeking vegan alternatives in their eating habits. they have been putting cowmilk into the coffee for a long time and once they want to find out if it is true that milk is poison and not drink it, the milk left a hole in them that they are trying to fill with something. they try to replace all the animal products with these fake imitation products but i never buy those because to be a real vegan means relearning how to eat completely, not just replacing animal products with these new industrial mimicry products.

for a shallow vegan, salt is vegan because it does not come from animals. for a deep vegan, salt isn't vegan because it is not a plant.

>shepherd's pie


i'm looking at pictures, this looks rather difficult to digest and you probably fart really mean from it and start to stink for it as this slowly walks it's way through your digestive tract. and then you drink a bit of coca cola and have someone walk you around on a dog leash or whatever you non-vegans do. something like that. meeting with other smelly people and bark at each other while drinking beer and watching sports ball.

 No.311633

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this reeks of product designers trying to make this dystopian poverty food more expensive by making a sexy product carton.

they should sell pasta pre-cooked in 20kg fuel cannisters. you just open the cannister and pour your pasta into a bowl and add sauce from another cannister and put it into a micrwave and that is industrial human nutrition and it is infinitely shelf stable, doesn't need cooling and is completely dead and it will not rot or mold because no other lifeform is interested in this grotesque perversion of the human life cycle.

 No.311634

>>311633
>a sexy product carton
It's solid blue with a photo of a forkful of the cooked product, the logo, the description, the weight, and then a small window to see the raw product. If that type of minimalist postmodern design is "sexy" to you in any sense then I think you may be mentally ill.

 No.311635

>>311634
>If that type of minimalist postmodern design is "sexy" to you in any sense then I think you may be mentally ill.

this making things sexy is why they get away with making cars so expensive and it is the same with macbooks. make the idiots think it is sexy and then they pay more. how to get the dummy to pay more? buy making the box blue and have this perfect fork loaded with good looking pasta and the leaf of basilicum behind the sauce, clean sharp and distinct.

pasta is such low quality disgraceful strugglefood, they might as well sell it in trash bags. just trash bags filled with pasta and you leave a big portioning scoop in there the same way you do it with dry dog food.

at least have some dignity and eat rice from a rice cooker and vary it a bit by adding different grains and/or lentils.

 No.311638

i don't think yall bunch of beginners understand how disgusting this industrial extrusion is.

when you bite into a plant, it has slowly and elegantly bothered to form into a specific shape. an organic edible self replicating elegant tasty artform; that's what a grape is. plants are magical, slow and determined. i pity the fool who never looked at timelapse plant videos on youtube.

a plant is like a staw into the ground, it sucks up nutrients and turns them into something. sometimes something tasty comes out, sometimes something useful comes out, sometimes something dangerous can happen with a plant.

the concept of a seed is mindboggeling to me. the plant creates little versions of itself that it saves into a tiny format.

that tiny format can sometimes be stored for a long time and then when it gets in wet ground a new plant will grow from it.

that's slow organic copy and paste. when a plant produes 4 seeds and you are lucky enough to have them. you can make 4 more of those plants by just sticking the seed into wet dirt. or you can make 2 plants now and 2 more in a year if you are lucky. some seeds don't grow though. since seeds are so complicated, there is always the chance of one being dead.

if a human could do that it might look like men being able to ejaculate little stone marbles and once they drop a marble in water and wait long enough, they have a son. human seed.

 No.311639

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now having tried to communicate the magic of plants what magic is in pasta? none. you blend the plant into a nasty ass paste. just shred it into undignified thick liquid. and this is what makes it pasta: IT SQUEEZES THE UNDIGNIFIED PASTE THROUGH A NARROW PIECE OF METAL, as to autistically force it into a perfect shape as if they were forging iron.

it becomes dry and hard and then people buy the concentrated form and at home they boil it so it becomes bigger and wetter again.

natural liquid, contained in plants is something they just concentrate away. a dead plant is different from a plant that is still alive and the degree of aliveness left in a food intersects with digestion because alive food is thriving with microorganisms and fragile stuff like enzymes that can't handle the heat of an industrial process.

pasta is dead, the tomato (currntly on my little cart where i put the fresh vegetables on) is still alive. when i don't eat it, the mushrooms in the air will try to digest the tomato. if i time it poorly and forget a few days about the tomato, the spores will gather on it and start eating it.

the fresher i eat, the more fruit flies start to live in my kitchen. i don't mind a few because they sometimes suprise me. i see them eat stuff i did not even knew they would like. they only like the stuff that is most healthy to me i believe. when lots of them are around that just means i am doing a good job living that deep vegan life.

 No.311640

>it's one guy spilling his spaghetti
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 No.311641

>>311640
i'm trying to be nice to unfortunates such as yourself and tell them things that are too complicated for them in a accessible manner and this is the thanks i am getting for it i guess.

you don't even know about seeds, you still think they are a conspiracy theory but they are real and i resent your arrogant disregard of their magical existence.

 No.311668

>>311639
I solved the fruitfly issue by always sticking my biotrash in the fridge. There is literally no way they can get in there, and as long as the bag is sealed it wont give off too much odor either. And since it's in cold, it's not going to spoil further.

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>>311668
>I solved the fruitfly issue by always sticking my biotrash in the fridge. There is literally no way they can get in there, and as long as the bag is sealed it wont give off too much odor either. And since it's in cold, it's not going to spoil further.

that's a nice way to handle it. i have the biotrash in a small paper bag outside the kitchenwindow on the windowsill since i don't use a fridge most of the time, i just go to the grocery store every 2-3 days.

what also helps: i bought 2 collapsible mesh-cylynders from thin plastic that can be put over fresh fruit on the counter and it keeps them off.

 No.311670

>>311669
Looks nice, but I'm not sure it would stop them from propagating inside the mesh (if the fruit was already infected with larvae from the store).

I hate fruit fly invasions with a passion. Last time I had one years and years ago the only way was to vacuum them one by one. All the vinegar tricks etc. were worthless.

 No.311672

>>311670

every so often one gets inside or grows inside but it can be easily blown off. i think the fruit flies are biologically compatible digestionability indicators, if they don't like something, i probably shouldn't be eating a lot of it.

what i like to do to thin out their numbers peacefully is have a little glass jar from salsa sauce where i drilled a small hole in the lid and i always put small bits of what i am eating in the jar. the flies descend on it, which i can easily see because the glass is see-through and once a day whenever a few are in there, i put my finger over the hole so they can't escape, pick up the jar, go outside and open the jar and blow inside to get them out. that way only a few remain in the kitchen at all times and the ones i threw out theoretically still have the chance to find something else.

 No.311679

I hate the fizz of all sodas, don't understand why people enjoy carbonization, makes you gassy, changes the taste, and burns your nose every time your burp.

 No.311686

>>311679
>don't understand why people enjoy carbonization

i wonder about that myself. i enjoy a good burp when i drink the stuff but some people only drink it. i remember hearing about the carbonization messing with the ph level of the beverage, making it even more ill-suited for human digestion.

 No.311689

>>311679
I can only drink it with food for some reason, and that's when it tastes delicious.

If I have Pepsi Max "just because" or on an empty stomach, I feel like vomiting and it's hard to swallow after just a small sip. Weird.

 No.311690

>>311689
>If I drink poison, I feel like vomiting

:O

 No.311691

>>311689
i don't think eating and drinking is a good idea. when i see people order food and a drink in a restaurant i think that's unhealthy culture. i drink throughout the day and the only time i am not drinking water is when i eat because i believe it dilutes the stomach acids and makes digestion more difficult. unless i eat something concentrated/dry/hard and then i drink a bit of water, believing it will help digestion.

when people who are fat drink the stuff you describe, i keep wondering if their entire digestion is a scam and their actual source of sustenance is the idiotjuice. their entire digestion mechanism might be nothing but a completely useless slide for tasty food that the body has given up on while the sugar to fuel the cells comes from the idiotjuice. i've been theorizing about this for quite a while. they might not even have the ability to draw stuff out of food anymore after having been over capacity, infested with fungus and potentially caked bowelwalls.

 No.311692

>>311496
>i use 99% isopropyl alcohol to dissolve spraypaint off when some asshole spraypaints my car. and the same stuff people drink for fun.

public service announcement:
those are two different substances>>311496

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>>311691
Dude, where are you getting this nonsense?

 No.311694

>>311692
>public service announcement:
>those are two different substances

obviously the stuff that people drink is less concentrated but other then a bit of water what meaningful difference is there?

they not only sell the 99% stuff but also 70% stuff, that's closer to the stuff people drink.

 No.311695

>>311693
>Dude, where are you getting this nonsense?

>>311693
i don't see a reason to care that you say it is nonsense though. you probably say a lot of things and when you do, take a look in the crowd of people listening to you and you will not see me there. you probably think picard lost his hair because of genetics because the back of the can of energy drink did not inform you otherwise.

 No.311696

>>311691
Your post makes no sense because Pepsi Max has literally zero calories. It's not making anyone fat.

 No.311697

>>311696
not him, but zero calories doesn't mean it doesn't affect your body in some way. there are studies that show that artificial sugar can produce a insulin spike just like real sugar and that influences if and/or when the body burns fat. the calorie in/out conceptualization is too simplistic to account for all the variables in a person's metabolism.

 No.311698

>>311696
>Your post makes no sense because Pepsi Max has literally zero calories. It's not making anyone fat.

i don't believe you read the post but regardless, i can tell you respect calories and i look down on you for it. you don't question deep enough. you question minor details based within the framework of established conversational habit and that is a mistake. your degree of questioning is within establishment bounds. what you would do if you were smart is this: your questioning would include the validity of the framework and if the framework is not a genuinely useful tool, you would leave it behind.

calories are a useless information, i do not respect calories, what i do instead is bothering to keep track of how each type of food digests. you can not reduce the complex issue of human digestion into a number. fuck your number.

 No.311702

>>311697
>not him, but zero calories doesn't mean it doesn't affect your body in some way.

the dude (clearly conditioned by the same min/max logic of currency systems) probably believes that a certain number of calorie is needed by the body. less is starvation and more is getting fat and it does not matter what the food is because everything is just this calory number.

furthermore he most likely believes the body bothers to store unused calories; like his body is a bank account. he thinks his body cleverly digests the food, retains only the energy and saves it in the body to be used at a later date when times are not as plentiful. the currency logic makes him think that he is an investor but he can not access his bank account and also the interest payment is cancer…

meanwhile what he believes are his fat reserves is more accurately seen as a malfunctioning digestion process that simply can not keep up with the massive loads and exceeds the body's capacity to clean itself. so the body carries on uncleaned with lymphatic systems so stagnant that they turn his lymph into cheese, including the characteristic smell. microorganisms love this internal human cheese. what a great investment, why not have another slice of pizza; i'm way over here where the air smells better crunching on an apple in the meantime.

 No.311710

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>>311702
Then explain how Auschwitz only had underweight skeletons and not a single overweight prisoner, if weight isn't simply an equation of calories expended daily vs. calories eaten.

 No.311711

>>311710
Himmler lyposuctioned the fat out of those Jews in order to make soap

 No.311712

>>311711
Where are the lipo scars? Their bodies are uniformly skin and bone everywhere.

 No.311713

>>311712
>Where are the lipo scars?
can't show, rule 7

 No.311726

>>311710
>Then explain how Auschwitz only had underweight skeletons

my first guess would be they did not eat enough. i don't see how this relates to the nonsensical invention of calory.

 No.311729

>>311710

i have seen none of you calorie believers ever bothered to care how many of the calories where pooped out again unused. you pride yourself on knowing how much energy goes into the system but do you know how much energy comes out? no.

do you know whether there is a difference in each food on how much of it goes out again unused? nope you not know.

do you know whether everyone excretes the same amount of unused calories? no you don't.

do you know how much unused calories should be excreted? of course not, you would not even know what parameters to choose in such an experiment.

the more you think about how the human turns food into energy, the more you care about digestion. it is more of an artform or a craft then a science.

these short sighted math acolytes in their undignified quest to lie and pretend that math is the purest of all the sciences will have you believe it makes sense to express the complex interconnected issue of human digestion as just another number. that's not science, that's the same greed you find in monetary systems. i twisty my lips while stroking my beard in arrogance towards your smallminded legacy ideology of currency and math.

 No.311730

>>311729
you would go this far to defend whales chugging pepsi max

of course it's not a perfect system. but for losing weight it is sufficient to understand consume less calories

 No.311732

>>311729
>i have seen none of you calorie believers ever bothered to care how many of the calories where pooped out again unused. you pride yourself on knowing how much energy goes into the system but do you know how much energy comes out?
That isn't how it works.
The energy output isn't poop. Poop is a waste product.

Are you just trolling or did you get straight F's in biology all your life?

 No.311734

>>311729
The body pretty efficiently digests everything by the time it reaches the other side of you, over 95% of the calories. There are some differences in how much energy is lost to heat from one macronutrient to the next, but the only one that has significant losses to heat is protein. Your body is also not equally good at converting all macronutrients to fat. Fat and carbs are easy to store while excess protein takes more steps to turn into sugar and sometimes can just be turned into waste products like urea and filtered out by the kidneys if your body can't use it all. So basically your body will absorb virtually 100% of the fat and sugar calories you ingest and like 80% of the protein calories.

 No.311735

>>311734
btw, I should mention that research shows that more processed foods are easier to digest and therefore lose less energy to heat. The two main factors are protein and fiber. So if you destroy the fiber (like in juicing) it means you're increasing the amount of calories available to the body.

 No.311736

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You're entertaining the argumentative side of a guy who believes that knowledge regarding carrot's benefits on eye health is "deep vegan lore". He's only here because everywhere else he'd like to be has kicked him out for being how he's being here.

 No.311737

>>311734
I wouldn't call conversations to heat as waste since with warm blooded animals like humans it's apart of maintaining homeostasis. Bodies are cool like that. What would be waste in a artificial system is put to productive use.

 No.311740

>>311730
>of course it's not a perfect system. but for losing weight it is sufficient to understand consume less calories

>but for losing weight it is sufficient to understand consume less


then why even have calories? there is no reason. the only reason calories make sense is if you desperately seek reasons to do more math and go so far as to invent reasons to do it. like a lonely person inventing imaginary friends.

you could have known that you lose weight if you eat less without having to invent math. seriously the more i see you acolytes defend it without a reason the more i consider mathematics a mental illness… math seems to be a subdivision of christianity, it is a way to get people used to their oppression. it detaches people from reality and turns life into statistics.

fun fact (well fun for me, i don't think math acolytes have fun, they instead have pride in having the right numbers in their idiotic equations)… anyways fun fact: that's not even true depending on what you eat that if you eat more that you gain weight. i know food that you can eat as much as you want from, even overeat and you don't gain weight and you don't get fat from it. i did the calculation, the knowledge of calories increases your chance to know why that is by exactly 0%.

 No.311741

>>311732
>That isn't how it works.

that's the strong biblical conviction to calories that cloud your mind. you must believe that you have a digestional efficiency of 100%.

math says it, you believe it, that settles it. trust the science. safe and effective.

 No.311742

>>311734

i resent that you try to build your understanding of a natural process of digestion on the foundation of a unnatrual mathcist concept.

when i see you throw that high number of 95% around, reminds me of what some dude once said as a joke when someone told him that people only use 5% of their brain. he said "oh yeah? i heard people only use 5% of their hand"

as the body of a person learns how to digest something by choosing a different digestion program (like choosing different settings in a washing machine) the efficiency gradually increases, the macrobiome gradually learns to handle it, the bowelwalls learn how to draw the nutrients out of the pre-poop BUT THEY DON'T REACH 95%. that's astronomically unrealistic. obviously i have not measured but 95% is something i expect a body to reach after a decade of only eating the one food in question and that's something you have not even begun to account for that different food that you eat reaches a different percentage.

would not surprise me if most what you eat only gets digested like 20% and then most energy you drink come from alcohol or energy drink or some other nonsense that the industry trained you to accept via marketing and peer pressure.

also protein is nonsense. stupid macronutrient perspective, again tricking people out of doing the hard work of understanding digestion deeper, despite being affected by it as regularly as the lung draws breath.

 No.311743

>>311735
>btw, I should mention that research shows that more processed foods are easier to digest and therefore lose less energy to heat

oh yeah, is that what the covid nurse told you?

 No.311744

>>311737
>I wouldn't call conversations to heat as waste since with warm blooded animals like humans it's apart of maintaining homeostasis. Bodies are cool like that. What would be waste in a artificial system is put to productive use.

in most people's bodies that hardly use their body to perform, heat mostly is a reflection of the emotional state. in other words it uses the 'heatmap' of the body as a canvas to paint on the depression the person has as coldness.

if you ever danced for a long time and feel how nice the body feels during and afterwards. even if you usually did not perceive it as cold the next day when you have stopped dancing, the body feels all cold and nasty; which explains the way people who know how to dance dress on an off day to an extend.

 No.311745

>>311735
experts agree that massaging your back gently without making fun of your pimples reduces harmful greenhouse gases by 30%

 No.311746

>>311735
>btw, I should mention that research shows that more processed foods are easier to digest and therefore lose less energy to heat.

don't you live in the developed world just like i do where supermarkets are filled with the finest food from all over the planet? your priorities are completely disconnected from your lived reality. chances are you never experienced food shortage ever and most likely never will.

in a technological world with advanced supply chains, even if you were correct that processed food is easier to digest (which it is not), what reason to you have to focus on energy loss? ENERGY LOSS? not enough energy? not enough food? nobody has that problem. completely misguided line of thinking. not enough energy is the exact opposite problem people have. people have the problem of having too much food and eating beyond what the body should ingest. you are like a blind child and you worry about colors even though you have never seen a color…

>The two main factors are protein and fiber. So if you destroy the fiber (like in juicing) it means you're increasing the amount of calories available to the body.


i've been living without protein (unless you count the two times a year where i eat tofu for fun) for almost a decade and i've been living without fiber for weeks, i don't think either are necessary. they serve their purpose but if you know what you are doing, there are ways to prevent the problem they are solving.

mathist sheep though i don't respect you i hope i have not angered you, may your god (the numbers) protect you because you are too innocent for this complex world of cause and effect.

 No.311749

>>311740
because it's still useful

we use fuckng 'british thermal units' for calculating heating and cooling and 'tonnes' of equipment inr elation to square footage. is it perfect? fuck no. windows, wall insulation, trees outside, attic insulation, siding and roof color, there's a million things that you would need to actually factor in. but it works, kinda

 No.311750

>>311749
>because it's still useful

i don't think it is. name a use (and i'm trying not to be an ass about it)

i get that you are conditioned to accept it and led to believe it is useful but what is the actual use?

 No.311789

>>311749
>because it's still useful

you insist it is useful, yet you can not name a single use. i can't either but i am not so arrogant and foolish like you are to insist that they are good for something even though they are not.

i have yet to encounter a single good justification for the existence of calories. what can they do that i can not do without? nothing. they add nothing. they add a lot of work for obedient nerds in labcoats who also insist they are good for something. is just part of the big theater.

some people actually work, they build the roads the cars drive on. those roads then are needed by the actors in labcoats so they can be rescued with ambulances every time something goes wrong in their fragile mismanaged bodies. safe and effective *thumbs up*

how people like you accept scientific concepts just out of obedience disgusts me deeply. you parrot things that are not useful just to belong i guess. now you belong to a group of undignified actors and liars who are either unable or have accepted that they are forbidden from questioning the world that has been constructed around them without their contribution; similar to a labrat. that's what you are. and you were one of the nice one who would even speak to an edgelord like myself with this evil questioning of what is sacred. i already feel weird about the future and i understand a lot of shit. i don't even wanna know how bad someone like you must feel, to whom almost everything is a mystery with no ability to make sense. this is me trying to say something nice to you so that it will make sense to your cultust brain: i hope that the numbers allign for you in a way that makes the probability permutate in your favor.

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>>311740
>>311789
>then why even have calories? there is no reason. the only reason calories make sense is if you desperately seek reasons to do more math and go so far as to invent reasons to do it.
>some people actually work, they build the roads the cars drive on. those roads then are needed by the actors in labcoats so they can be rescued with ambulances every time something goes wrong
It can be a potentially harmful abstraction, for instance low-carb and low-fat diets can appear the same in terms of calories, yet produce different levels of glucagon/insulin and other hormones. An industrious age thinks in terms of processes that consume inputs and produce outputs, rather than networks, cycles, or monist states, so thinking in terms of calories in/calories out instead of the changing nutritional pathways comes naturally to most people. The same critique applies to your precious roads

 No.311801

>>311798



>The same critique applies to your precious roads


how did you know they are precious to me? because they are. roads are nice mane, i like two diametrically opposed kind of roads.

i like the roads in rural area between farms and woods. minimal roads, sometimes with bad asphalt, sometimes no asphalt and sometimes they have old ugly industrial stones.

i also like the modern 3-lane highways. when those are in good condition and not too crowded they are an unbelievable way to go to a different city fast. if you have ever driven on a nice highway you can not help but be in awe of how conveniet and useful this can be and how difficult the construction must have been. oh yeah and they are cumbersome to maintain and repair. i shit on my government for every reason i can find but the roads are something to be proud of. what a logistical achievement.

>for instance low-carb and low-fat diets can appear the same in terms of calories, yet produce different levels of glucagon/insulin and other hormones


this can be easily felt. only eating a certain food for a week for example. i believe if most people ate only pizza and then saw how they felt a week later they might never eat it again. but people don't do that, they mix their food so much that they can never know the impact one single food source has. i've come around to believe that this is foolish. if a food is bad, it can hide among better food forever and the sinner who eats it will never truly know.

i've done this with watermelon. i've eaten nothing but watermelon for 3 weeks. quite the enlightening experience. made me look at 'normal eating' with bewilderment. it was befuddeling.

 No.311804

>>311801
Was your poop red?

 No.311812

>>311804
>Was your poop red?

yeah. it was bright pink rather and as thin as a finger. since it leaves so little residue in the body, consequently wiping after a monofruit poop is 2 wipes and done. it takes seconds. it does not include any kind of inconvenience like when eating industrial. it is such a minor event, i don't even sigh in an annoyed manner when i have to go pooping.

there is no need to wipe extensively because nothing sticky comes out the ass. IT IS NOT THE FIGHT AGAINST GOO ARMED WITH BITS OF ABSORBING PAPER. unlike industrial wiping, it is more like drying off pink water. once i felt it i was convinced that this was normal human digestion i am experiencing in a sick world that was taught to selfharm through food.

poop was not meant to feel like dry toothpaste barely letting itself squeeze onto the toothbrush. it was not meant to be sticky like nutella. oily poop is disgusting, i don't even wanna know how disgusting pooping must be for fat people.

 No.311814

>>311812
>it is more like drying off pink water.


there is this linguistic expression "having a stick up their ass". i think this points towards something real.

when the bowels are not filled with such a gooey mess, then the entire body feels better. it feels like a curse being lifted. i do think there is something to that idea of bowelwalls being obstructed. caked intestines.

you ever seen someone build a house from bricks or stones? they make a goo from wet stone-powder and use it as a glue and then they put it in between their stones or bricks and they hold up resulting in a house.

i imagine it behaves similar in the gastrointestinal tract when someone was so foolish as to eat industrial. like nutella there is this gooey paste getting squeezed through the moist tunnels, which at some point even goes upwards where the gravity doesn't help but becomes an obstacle. this paste travels through the human pipe and touches all the walls all the time and might leave a residue whereever it touches. also it is warm in there so that helps everything stick. depending on how horrible the person eats there might be a curved wall inside the person, slowly getting harder and obstructing the ability of the body to absorb through the bowelwalls.

the sides of the boweltunnel want to suck the nutrients out of the pre-poo but they can't do it because for pre-poo to be able to be absorbed, it needs to NOT BE BLOCKED BY A HARDENED WALL MADE FROM GOO whenever it tries to touch. imagine you were reputable industrial manufacturing company and you make a complicated product and it has like 30 steps until a product is finished. and then towards the end of the process one of the machines that should drain liquid from your products but since the drain is clogged, no water can flow down the drain. that means one of the 30 steps has stopped and you no longer get the quality the factory was built to put out.

so the absorption part of the digestion, the part the entire digestion was about, gradually loses efficiency. you may have started at 60% and then you eat garbage over the years and the layer of cake build inside of the bowelwalls. 55%, 50%, 45%, 40%, ….

as the layer of cake becomes thicker and thicker it functions as a barrier against human absorption to occur. of course someone like that will end up with a cancer somewhere down there and it will be a complete surprise.

what do you think fastfood does to the bowelwalls. does it help to build up the obstructive layer of cake or does it help to powerwash the bowelwalls clean, like a 3 week matermelonjuicefast does?

 No.311821

>>311801
I do feel like absolute shit after eating a huge pizza for several days afterwards.

But the feeling it gives while you eat it is sometimes worth it.

 No.311822

>>311821
>But the feeling it gives while you eat it is sometimes worth it.

maybe for people who don't know how to make themselves feel good, otherwise this short term pleasure is a bad trade for long-term-unhealth when you could dance or skate or run for fun.

that's industry seducing you with one of it's most devastating inventions. cheese i believe to be poison.

this video does a good job of describing cheese from a shallow vegan perspective. is geared towards a basic audience. this does not have the deep stuff in it, this is what i as a conspiracy man myself would consider shallow, safe and uncontroversial.

Dude in a labcoat who speaks fast has a 50 minute powerpoint presentation where he is shitting on cheese:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3c_D0s391Q

 No.311823

>>311822
Even so, I'd rather die than never have molten parmigiano reggiano cheese mixed with some garlic.

Despite it cutting my life expectancy by a year.

 No.311824

>>311823
>I'd rather die than never have molten parmigiano reggiano cheese

oh that's terrible to hear someone decides to throw a human life away for some mouth pleasure.

>Despite it cutting my life expectancy by a year.


for it to only cut off a year you'd have to eat it as alittle as a small portion every few weeks. months without. you probably don't go months without…

 No.311840

>>311823
>cutting my life expectancy by a year.

i've head this excuse as a defense for a foolish short-focuses way of life quite often. i guess that is all you believe the choice of food amounts to. however one critical element is missing from this equasion:

not only do you live shorter then someone who uses his brain. you still wanna believe that the difference is years however the difference is decades.

but the short life you live is also reduced quality. maybe half a life or a third of a life or a fourth of an actual human life. you only feel half as good, you only smile half as often, you only feel part of the planet half as much, you only wake up feeling half as alive, you only have energy for half the things you think are important.

this is what you look like to me: SO WHAT WHEN I USE THE WRONG FUEL FOR MY FACTORY? IT STILL BURNS WHAT DO YOU WANT?! SO WHAT MY MACHINES BREAK DOWN SOONER AND MY FINISHED PRODUCT ISN'T AS GOOD AND IT SMELLS WEIRD AND POLLUTES THE AIR? SO WHAT? IT TASTES GOOD FOR A FEW SECONDS EACH DAY AS I SLOWLY TURN INTO A HANDICAPPED PERSON!

when you have the choice between taste and a life twice as nice and you choose taste, i'll go ahead and consider you dumb. and when you want to explain to me how you aren't, i'm not gonna listen because dumb people never say interesting things so no need to listen.

 No.311842


 No.311843

>>311842
>What makes you even think it is unhealthy?

you wanna talk about it. that's not gonna change anything in your life and teach you nothing. if debating me with the ideas you picked up from other people solved anything, you'd be the smartest and happiest person in the world right now.

eat nothing but cheese for days and you will have your answer.

 No.311844

>>311843
You sound unhinged.

>eat nothing but cheese for days and you will have your answer.

Logically invalid methodology. Food can be healthy as part of a diet without being something that feels good to eat solely for days.

Nutrition is very hard and many people come to insane conclusions. Sad that you would avoid tasty food and harm yourself just because you have misconceptions.

 No.311845

>>311844
>You sound unhinged.
yeah, i try to be polite though and pretend towards people that they aren't garbage at least a little bit.

>eat nothing but cheese for days and you will have your answer.

Logically invalid methodology.

there isn't another method though.

>Food can be healthy as part of a diet without being something that feels good to eat solely for days.


whenever there is other food coming in: you can not be sure about how much the other food is nullifying a potential harm. the harm can then hide in the rest and you can not be sure what caused it. with only the cheese you would feel how it interacts with the body really quick but i guess you are too scared to question something you enjoy so much. probably every time you wanna think about it, you get an electric shock and are forbidden from going there by your fragile entitlement for comfort and ease. that's the part of your personality who most likely wears the pants while you are merely a passenger in your own life.

>Nutrition is very hard and many people come to insane conclusions. Sad that you would avoid tasty food and harm yourself just because you have misconceptions.


everything is hard to a fool. noo i eat tasty food in the winter. i'm coming out of a period of eating some cooked vegetable curries and they made me feel slow and dumb and weak. just rice was sauce made from actual organic tomatos from a blender and herbs/spices. i add lots of coconutcream in those curries. occasionally i have potato and sweetpotato fries with ketchup. that's tasty. biting in a nice apple that's like an electric feeling. i only feel how strong it is when i suddenly stop doing it and wonder why i feel so bad and don't even wanna be alive. and then i get the nice electric fresh fruit again and live feels good like it was supposed to.

 No.311847

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for simple cooking, i love my rice cooker. i make a cup or 2 of rice and while it cooks, i make a sauce with vegetables. recently been a bit lazy and i just put vegetables in a blender (tomato, bell pepper, garlic,) and pour them over some gently fried onions and spice and that's already a sauce. sometimes i make raw sauces too. also i use the rice cooker with a little stainless steel basket and that way i can use the steam to almost cook some vegetables. i love this with pumpkin or sweetpotato for some more fiberous dense meals.

that's probably not good enough for the gourmets. if i was disciplined (and i will be during the summer) i would switch the curry with a salad made from coleslaw. I STILL HAVE NOT ORDERED A FOOD PROCESSOR TO HELP ME MAKE COLESLAW. god damn i hate buying stuff so much. it is such a disgusting feeling to engage in the monetary system, just thinking about it makes me feel disgusted all over. so i procrastinate on buying things usually.

other then that i currently eat apples, bananas, dates, hazelnuts.

 No.311849

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in the summer i like to make a raw meal mostly from cabbage. is so simple i shred the vegetables with a mandolin-slicer (any self-respecting person would use a food processor…) and then i pour over a sauce i made in the blender. shreds+sauce=meal. here is a simple version:

cabbage
cucumber
bell pepper

real tomato as much as i can fit in the blender
1 onion
a few cloves of garlic
cilantro
sesame-paste
herbs&spices

and i don't put it into a bowl like all you basic people would, i put it into individually portioned thick glasses with a lit and those i put into the fridge with the sauce already on top. is so nice to have the fridge filled with so many glasses. when i eat those all day with a bit of fruit in the morning, i have these gigantic fiberous shits. having these rhinoceros sized shits cleans out the bowel like a broom sweeps the floor.

 No.311850

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this is what it feels like to run those cabage-meals through the body for a few days

 No.311851

>>311742
you are literally schizo

 No.311852

>>311746
I'm not saying that losing out on the energy is a bad thing, quite the opposite. When you have lots of easily digestible calories, especially carbs and fats then it creates a blood sugar spike and the liver starts making fat. This is the primary health issue that people face today:obesity. Fiber helps to literally encase the nutrients and keep them from breaking down so easily. Most processed foods are made from "nutrient slurries", ie ground up and otherwise processed ingredients. This is like doing a part of the digestion process for you. Your body absorbs it and the food itself doesn't really have bulk like normal actual foods because it's been ground into a paste so your body quickly digests it, stores it all in fat, but then you get hungry again because your stomach is registering that it is empty and all the calories have been digested already so your blood sugar drops. This causes people to eat again even though they've already taken in enough calories.

 No.311864

>>311851
>you are literally schizo

because someone who spends his life saging imageboard threads would know? i don't think you'd know. you are just a sheep who uncritically follow whoever is the loudest and the cruelest.

 No.311865

>>311852
>I'm not saying that losing out on the energy is a bad thing, quite the opposite. When you have lots of easily digestible calories, especially carbs and fats then it creates a blood sugar spike and the liver starts making fat. This is the primary health issue that people face today:obesity. Fiber helps to literally encase the nutrients and keep them from breaking down so easily. Most processed foods are made from "nutrient slurries", ie ground up and otherwise processed ingredients. This is like doing a part of the digestion process for you.

grinding up i think could indeed help the digestion theoretically… in reality it makes people eat faster then they should, i am guilty of this myself. food should be chewed even if it is unnecessary because that way the enzymes in the saliva start to break down the food in the mouth takes a few seconds. people who don't chew enough or don't know they should be chewing as to mix the saliva with the food they are skipping an important step in digestion. chewing more even when it seems unnecessary is an easy step to improve digestion. so i could argue food already ground up makes the average unaware person chew less and thus reduce the quality of their digestion. pre-digestion in the mouth through sufficient chewing is important and this importance is reflected by the undignified measurement of calories exactly: not at all.

what about dehydrating, diluting, heating or even just pasteurizing, freezing, adding oil, or whatever else they are doing that i am not even aware of. that just kills enzymes, it kills helpful microorganisms and discharges the electricity that is contained in the food leaving you with dead food. that's like replacing batteries in your appliance but instead of fresh batteries you put in old batteries that barely hold a charge.

>Your body absorbs it and the food itself doesn't really have bulk like normal actual foods because it's been ground into a paste so your body quickly digests it, stores it all in fat,


i don't believe this to be true with the "storing fat". dude your body doesn't have a fat bank account where it carefully and deliberately stores the fat that you refined from your digestion. the fat isn't stored. it is stack overflow.

>but then you get hungry again because your stomach is registering that it is empty and all the calories have been digested already so your blood sugar drops. This causes people to eat again even though they've already taken in enough calories.


i've heard this lore but then i have also seen the people where i live. not so much recently but when i was younger i've seen some real fatties. it seems like their bellies slowly become so large that what they believe a proper portion for them is, ends up fitting inside them. the body tries to become whatever the driver of the body needs it to be. i believe it would be a matter of weeks until the situation that you describe where someone would eat again and again would result in the the tissue expanding and the person becoming fatter so that more can fit in one round of digestion, especially when you consider that the dense artificial industryfood does not digest in a matter of minutes like watermelons or oranges do, they can range from hours to days. meat is particularly difficult because it needs a certain strength of acid and it needs time. cats (unlike humans who may pretend to be) are actual carnivores and they sleep for large parts of the day.

the most intelligent way to eat industryfood i think would involve the longer digestion times. this idea OMAD (one meal a day) when it comes to industryfood is probably a good idea and maybe it is not even hard enough because of how densely packed the industry food is. maybe one gigantic portion of pasta every 2 days would be a better way of eating industrial, i dunno, i don't care. i like to eat in a way that respects the evolutionary work that has been done by the ancestors of being able to eat the most electrical foods and have the most developed nervous system. when i only eat fruit, my senses are so hightend that it freaks me out. smells are so strong that i am constantly disgusted how my dense city smells. living in a big city is a big mistake…

 No.311866

>>311865
>i don't believe this to be true with the "storing fat". dude your body doesn't have a fat bank account where it carefully and deliberately stores the fat that you refined from your digestion. the fat isn't stored. it is stack overflow.

imagine a toilet where the flush is broken. it can't be flushed but people continue to poop and piss in it. the heap grows so big that they errect a ladder over the toilet and poop on the heap from high above. and then it leaks on the floor, you get the picture.

you are the dude who sees this and then says "LOOK, LOOK THE TOILET IS STORING FAT!". but the toilet isn't storing fat, it doesn't flush properly and everything is a mess and it smells bad.

 No.311873

>>311865
you are legit the stupidest person on this site

 No.311881

>>311873
so what if that is what you think, little conflict machine.

 No.311901

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poops are good small, thin, solid but not dry and 3 times a day. i ate apples, perfectly ripened bananas, blendercurry with rice and nuts. i even made a decafinated instant coffee with oat-milk and honey as kind of a sweat treat. mood is not good but the flame of hope is still flickering in the wind. breath is getting deeper. i have to get out of this nightmarish city of violent puppets.

wishing yall digestionally disabled wizards a nice day.


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