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 No.70718[Reply]

Hey wizards,

Two other wizzas and I will be reading The Pastel City, a science fantasy novel by M. John Harrison, originally published in 1971.

We'll be following a schedule of one chapter per day. The chapters are about 10 pages long on average. After each day's reading, we'll come here and talk about it. I'll be posting a short daily commentary to help kick off the discussion, along with updates on our progress through the schedule. Of course, you're under no obligation to post anything if you don't want to.

We'll start on Thursday, July 2, so in just a couple of days. Check out the blurb for the novel:

A decaying world. Ancient powers long forgotten. An old warrior with one last battle to fight. The Pastel City is a mesmerizing journey through the ruins of a far-future civilization, where the remnants of lost knowledge mingle with myth and legend. Atmospheric, inventive, and unforgettable, it is a classic of science fantasy.

I'll be following along with this edition, which can be borrowed for free from Archive.org:

https://archive.org/details/pastelcity0000unse

You can choose a different edition if you prefer:

https://archive.org/search?tab=all&query=the+pastel+city&and%5B%5D=mediatype%3A%22texts%22

To borrow a book from the Archive, you'll need an account. They only ask for an email address and password.

Come and join us for some whimsy literary fun.
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 No.70818

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Chapter 04

Grif's smile vanished. He nodded. "Aye, and found one more piece for the puzzle. I was fascinated by the precise edge of his wound.Examining it more closely, I found — " He paused; prodded the fire with his boot and watched the ascending sparks. "We buried only a part of that man, Cromis: the rest has gone with the creature you put to flight. "His brain has been stolen."

I had just finished this chapter when I suggested we read this book together. I restarted reading from the prologue for this thread, and now I'm back to this point. From here on, it's all new to me too. This is where the weird stuff starts happening. The brain getting stolen gave me a chuckle because I was immediately reminded of the infamous Star Trek episode "Spock's Brain". In it, Spock has his brain surgically removed and stolen by a group of crazy space succubi. It's also widely considered one of the worst episodes of the original series, though I confess I quite like it. This book was published just a couple of years after that episode aired.

What do you guys think stole the brain? I'm guessing by the description of the fight it's a cyborg. It couldn't be an android/robot otherwise it would just fight to the end and would've killed Cromis then and there. Maybe it's something else entirely. We'll see.
The dialogue in this novel feels a little stiff so far, but the descriptions of nature, landscapes, and objects are where the charm of the story lies. That, and of course the setting and the weirdness, which I hope we see more of moving forward. For example, I want to know why the hell they need human brains in the first place. Please let there be zombies in this world too. That would be great!

>>70807
This novel strikes me as generally chaste compared to a lot of fantasy stuff. The protagonist doesn't even have a love interest! I agree with the pacing. It's one of the reasons I picked this novel up.

>>70808
And let's not forget that Grif is a bootlegger. Guy is literally a mobster.

>>70811
I didn't think of that. The vulture having no relevant info is silly. If I try to make sense of it, I guess it's possible that Cellur was afraid thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>70818
A rather grim chapter, this one. The poor nameless sword is left in pieces, as is Chromis' psyche it seems. Perhaps this giant thing is what Cellur was trying to warn us about. Also rather creepy that it took the guard's brain… what could it possibly need it for…

 No.70820

im burnt out already bros…go on without me

 No.70821

>>70818
Finally some more action! But I have a confession to make guys … I already read ahead and I'm at chapter 9 now. So I'm a little cautious of discussing because I'm not sure what went on in which chapter specifically and I don't want to spoil. The three eyed freak was cool but I really don't understand why Chromis didn't alert the rest of the camp and went to chase it alone. I mean it could've just as well been a scout and his sleeping companions might have gotten attacked in his abscence, completely defenseless. Nice that we got to see the Baan in action, too.

 No.70824

>>70818
>but the descriptions of nature, landscapes, and objects are where the charm of the story lies.
True though being the OCD reader I have to google every word I don't know as I read and even get into info-gathering rabbitholes, and there were a lot of new words here. Learnt weird ways to describe colors and what some geographical formations are called. Last chapter I even learnt that glaciers move and can erode the soils beneath it.

I thought the baan that killed Cromis sister would make an appearance in some critical fight scene but he lost it here fighting an unknown monster that popped out of nowhere and almost losing. What's most surprising is he lost his nameless sword too. That's two important plot items used up in one scene. We are speedrunning Cromis getting his hero sword upgrade I think. Could have used the Chekhov's baan in a more satisfying fight.


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 No.33619[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Has anyone read 5e's fucking Ravenloft?
Just some of the horrid shit in it:
>Strahd's played off as what amounts to Buffy the Vampire Slayer's Angelus levels of edge, literally feels nothing and seemingly has no interests above the usual, though not for the same Bram Stoker's Dracula tier reasons, Literally just wants Tatanya as if a meaningless trophy on his belt
>These dumb faggots made it so that Strahd wants to turn whatsherface not into a vampire bride, or hell, even a true vampire, BUT VAMPIRE SPAWN (You know, sniveling wall crawling nosebleed assface monster vamps?)
>Tatanya's a nigger
>The reincarnation is a nigger
>Strahd's wives are niggers
>Nigger Mayor of a town surrounding the land
>Evil white "everything is fine man"
>Strahd's a Bisexual sodomite degenerate with two male consorts to boot
>Made Barovians "Diverse"
>Made Strahd's conquering of the land sound tyrannical as fuck and less just
>Made it so that Some have Barovians have souls and some don't because of 5e's ravenloft being in a private demiplane, stopping newborn bodies from getting souls, in a piss-poor attempt to mimick the Old demiplanes of dread thing where some residents are literally just NPCs made by the powers, even though this makes no sense to anyone who's had to deal with Gulthias in 3.5 and Ashradorn in the whole Soul font thing with the ban on unborn souls in lore, so these people should be getting souls, because otherwise the demiplane would have to deny all positive energy for this shit to even remotely work
>All done because they're too lazy to redo the demiplanes of dread just like before,
>Strahd now heals for 20 in his fast heal
>Mongrel Men are the results of Racemixing past the half-race stage suffer for it, check their description and it's fucking played off as a good thing despite them being ugly mutants beyond redemption in their racial descriptions, the self-unawareness is real

This is why warhammer roleplay and castle drachenfels will always be superior
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>>70685
That's a respectable run. You can get a lot done in six months. Most online games don't last four sessions, let alone several months.

Man I tried solo games but I just can't do it. The wealth of bizarre shit that happens when five nerds get together to play these games just can't be matched by solo play. At least not for me. In many ways solo is the best way to play it because you don't depend on others. I really like that part. It's basically a video game. Pick up and put it down whenever you want. If only I could get into it.

Anyway, I already caved and found another group. We'll be playing through a module this time, about 20 sessions, so about the size of your campaign. Not enough time for me to start hating on rpgs which is good. I can't wait to delve into musty corridors and throw some dice. We start next week. I'll report back.

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>>70686
I'm eager to hear your report.
If you don't like it, at least the module will end at some point.

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Well I said I would report back so here I am. I had my first game with the new group. It was rather strange, as I'm not used to playing with newbies. My usual experience with gaming is with grognards, and the game very quickly gets into a rather smooth operation: go to the dungeon, kill the monsters, fetch the gold, bring it back for XP, rinse, and repeat. Roleplay is present but secondary, it's a game, not a narrative. The characters are tools for combat and exploration first, not people. It's just a different way of playing, is all.

Now, with the newbies coming into roleplaying after the Critical Role phenomenon, it's different. They all want to elevate their characters to some literary figure. I sat through a 10-minute argument between two players because they have PCs whose "personalities" clash. These players have pet characters that they intensely protect from all danger, to the point of being a detriment to the game itself. They don't want to go into the cave "because there might be something too dangerous inside." Well wtf man, that's the whole fucking point, is it not?

The DM is aware of the problem and was privately messaging me days before the session, telling me he was hoping that I would stir the other players to action. I have never had that happen to me before. Usually, DMs are control freaks who want to have complete control of the world and the players somewhat. This guy is apparently too afraid to be candid about the pet characters that are paralyzing his game and is trying to recruit me as his hatchet man.

Welp, I'm happy to inform you that I embraced the task. We saw some action and a character got killed, although it was an excruciating process that took several minutes of arguments. But before that, let me tell you about what we did in town before going out into the caves.

One of the players actually had his character looking for work AS A FUCKING BARISTA AT THE LOCAL INN! Holy fucking Christ Jesus, man. Here we have a game where you can be a hill giant, a devil, a paladin, a rogue, a demon prince from hell, or a fucking dragon if you want to. And this guy takes a 15-minute side quest to try and get his character work waiting tables! There was nothing particularly important about this inn, either. It's just an inn.

And it's not like we were short on money either. This is a Monty Haul DM and each of us had enough money to afford food and board for like a whole year. Besides, we can just hearPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>70730
Glad to hear you had fun! Indeed, it seems there is hope ahead, if not for a good game, then at least for interesting interactions.

I came across an old article recently discussing this exact difference in philosophy, the divide between the "game-players" and the "role-players." I always assumed the latter style of play took root in the late 80s, but it was happening even in 1977, only three years after the release of Original D&D.

So there have been misunderstandings since the very start. The game is supposed to be about acquiring treasure, magic items and XP, building a stronghold, having your own army and claiming a piece of the land as your own. If your character isn't interested in any of that, then they shouldn't be an adventurer.

>The player who lost his character got into an argument with another player because that player didn't come to his aid when he was the only one who could've done something.
I bet/hope one day, in the not too distant future maybe, this player will look back on this moment and realize they were actually having fun. This sort of interaction is more real than anything narrative-based games can create.

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>>70782
You're right, this thing probably began with the game itself, it's just that my personal experience is different. But the worst part of pet characters full of personality, besides having to sit through a 10 minutes argument between two imaginary bozos, is the impact this stuff has on the DM.

I'm pretty sure he's prone to fudge and pull punches because of this. The game just gets smoother if nobody dies. I asked if he could have his attack and dmg rolls in the open and he said he prefers to keep it a secret to 'keep up the tension'. Bullshit. The dice gives you a probability, that's where the tension is. I can just tell he's pulling the teeth from the monsters. I hate toothless monsters, fuck. I don't even blame him honestly, the players are whiny bitches and he's afraid to lose them.


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 No.70742[Reply]

Hello Wizards,

In this thread we talk about Formula 1. I got into it this season, curious if anyone follows it.

Who is your favorite driver? What do you think of the current season?
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 No.70773

I watched the first race of this season and have had zero desire to watch any more. The new aero regs are interesting, but the current hybrid powertrain setup leads to bullshit yo-yo overtaking where drivers are just swapping positions based on battery charge. The FIA think that viewers will be impressed solely by the sheer quantity of overtakes, and unfortunately they seem to be correct based on the number of fans defending the current regulations.

>>70749
It would be interesting to see Verstappen at another team, but I'm not sure who could take him. The other top teams already have solid driver lineups, and Verstappen would only leave RBR for a better car so I don't see him going for the midfield teams.

 No.70786

>>70773
I've never thought about it that way, but it makes sense. But I don't think I've ever seen anyone defending ERS superclipping. They should make the engine/battery split at least 60/40. I'm personally liking this season, but maybe that's because I'm new.

I had heard a rumor that Max was going to make the switch to Mercedes, since his contract permits him to switch teams next year, but now that I dwelled on it more it seems very improbable that a better team would take him in.

 No.70791

>>70786
The ICE/electric split being 50/50 would be fine if the cars had an additional source of battery recharge. IIRC, the current situation is the result of the FIA dropping the MGU-H to entice Audi to join in (since Audi would be at a disadvantage compared to the existing teams and manufacturers in developing that tech), then the existing teams torpedoing front axle regen (because Audi have a lot of experience with that tech from endurance racing). So now the MGU-K is doing all of the recharging, hence the super clipping. To be fair, apparently they made some reg changes a few races ago that improved the situation, but I haven't watched any of the recent races myself to compare.

 No.70815

>>70773
>I watched the first race of this season and have had zero desire to watch any more.
If you don't find something stimulating you should stop watching it.

 No.70822

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>>70791
Silverstone GP yesterday with it's high speed corners and straights immediately showed how bad the battery situation is. Hamilton slowed to a crawl and lost his position to Antonelli on the Sprint and the GP. Later, Max went into the wall from a rear wing issue which gave him massive understeer. Whatever difference the regulations changes made seems marginal to me.

I'd like to see the cars relying more on the engines than the ERS. Not just because they'd sound cooler. I feel that it would allow for cleaner racing & less back and forth positions due to ERS deployment. And I think most drivers would agree with this.


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 No.308855[Reply]

Does anyone else envy those people who say "I have 12\6\4 (etc) month to live"?
Imagine KNOWING for sure -more or less- how many time you have left; all the impunity, courage, quickness and nimbleness, resolution and firmness, with which you would do anything and everything.
I envy such people!
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 No.308868

I'd like to off myself in the distant future for multiple reasons but I'm afraid that when the time comes I bitch out or it has become harder to find resources for painless methods. Because of that, if a doctor told me right now that I will die in about a year or so, it would lift a huge burden off me. I don't think I would do much though, no hedonism because that always feels like a waste so instead maybe writing a book or something to leave behind. At last I'd go to Japan and off myself before my time comes in whatever beautiful and relatively isolated landscape I can find, and humbly ask in my suicide note to be buried in that country, not because I'm a weeb but because it's the only fair country left on Earth.

 No.308886

>>308868
>buried
you DO know japan has made burials illegal, right? they just cremate people and have trouble with space of ashes vases

 No.308887

>>308886
burials, cremation, it's all the same to me, I just don't want my remains to stay in Eur*pe.

 No.308888

yeah would be really good to know how much i have left.

 No.308957

Not really, it's a slow death. You should envy those guys who suddenly die from heart attacks or ODs


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 No.324657[Reply]

I had a strange bizarre dream
>People stop having children but jobs are plentiful
>for some reason, a crisis related to a rare disease breaks out
>there isn’t as much immigration anymore (to bring in cheap labor) bacause of fear of this rare disease, the robots and AI tech are too much cost to use in favor of jobs.
>The world government establishes a totalitarian regime in which it forces people to marry and have children (in an absolute non-religion context just a state owned thing maybe based in laws)
>furthermore, if people are unable to do so on their own, the government steps in to ensure it happens by assigning you a partner (regardless of your sexuality) and guaranteeing you a job at some facility or specialized work related to your first years of studies, knowledge or a factory job.
>as well as housing, and you’ll likely have to move from your hometown and daily routine to a working-class neighborhood or related structure to the working force that the economy need if its the case of your job
>The entire scheme of life now is related to you get a partner and a job and a family and sons to keep repeating the cycle, they dont have interest in family problems or wathever you do with your life, they just want to you to just to have job, sons and give more to the raise the economy.
>If you oppose the government or don't have a partner or children, you are arrested and declared a social outcast and a good-for-nothing
>In this process, a digital credit system begins to be used, in which there are the married, those with children, and the outcasts. Logically, the latter have no rights to anything, and the former enjoy more benefits—although in reality there isn’t much difference in benefits beyond the typical economic gains associated with modern social class.
>Outcasts can reintegrate into society under certain conditions regarding work, children, and family—if they meet those conditions.
>Adoptions are made easier with even greater oversight by government officials and agencies, even for infertile individuals or even for other schemes of families.
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 No.324659

How would a dream affect me
Not very much

Open a window when you go to sleep sounds like you need to get some fresh air

 No.324662

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>>324657
I find it more likely that the government would force succubi to have children through artificial insemination and then ask the male population that does all the useful work to foot the bill for the single mothers, a child with a father figure is someone who won't depend on the government and elites don't want that.

 No.324665

people aren't reproducing in first world countries
while the government has a lot of power forcing people to reproduce against their will seems very unlikely if not impossible to me


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 No.229108[Reply]

Has anything you've ever played, watched, listened to, or read ever truly changed your life? No matter how much I experience nothing changes. I used to walk 2 hours a day and I never felt any better mentally than I do now as a neet who never goes outside. My baseline mental state seems impossible to break out of.
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 No.229119

Nothing you play, watch, listen to, or read will change much in your life because those are consumerist hobbies. Instead of playing, make a game. Instead of watching, make a short film. Instead of listening, compose a music piece. Instead of reading, write a book.

Doodling awful shit on krita and writing on my notebook pretending that I'm Tolkien reborn when I actually can't string more than a few sentences in English when speaking, learning a new language even if at snail's pace. These things feel much more meaningful than consooming pretentious philosophical pieces of media that only tell you what you already know.

 No.229121

A piece of media cannot change one life, it is just a mental image it doesnt influence material reality.
But music and games are one of the rare pleasure i got in life so i'd say yes, it is important.

 No.229122

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>>229108
Truly changed my life? Not really. But the closest I guess would be reading a visual novel where they had an acting club and realizing that I really want to get into acting. I think it might be my calling in life to bring characters to life through acting. It feels like it would be one of the few things that would fill me with purpose and meaning. But guess what, I've done absolutely nothing with that realization. Never tried to find an acting group or practice anything or try to write my own characters or anything. I am so miserably depressed that even something that seems very fulfilling is hard to motivate myself for.

 No.229125

>>229108
Watching videos of this guy Daniel Schmachtenberger talk about the 'metacrisis', the confluence of various catastrophic risks cascading into complete collapse. Well, maybe not life changing but they've had an impact. Hearing him connect the dots between things I had known about but thought were disparate was sort of eye opening. And the realization of just how fucked humanity is, how there is no breaking out of the downward spiral we are on (even if he insists there is hope to be had).
It changed my life in the sense that I am now much more acutely aware of the absurdity of my every day life. Just seeing all these people go about their routines as if any of it truly matters, pursuing various worthless goals instead of trying to appreciate the last decade of material safety and abundance our species will ever experience. I feel much more justified in taking it easy and not struggling knowing how it will certainly all end soon.

 No.229127

>>229108
Yes, I watched The Rite Of Spring by Stravinsky performed live when I was 15 and it deeply changed me. It felt so new and brave it convinced me the world is fluid and my anxiety literally melted away that very evening before the orchestra was even done, I started to pursue my own interests very aggressively after, which eventually led me to making meaningful relationships and getting a fulfilling employment.


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 No.42320[Reply]

I wish japan could have sahkalin island and the kouril islands back. it would mean more space for japan. japan is a rich country it could easely buy them from russia.
more space for japanese people means more japan to visit!
😊

 No.42321

>more japan to visit!
Japan doesn't need - or want - visitors.

 No.42333

>>42320
Or you could just visit Sakhalin by yourself now, or maybe you only care for the >thing
>Thing but in Japan meme

 No.42386

>>42333
japan better

 No.44355

Random bump with an idea.

Japan is "mostly mountains" small country, not just a small country.
Leveling sone of the mountains into something inhabitable would the same thing as making Japan bigger without making the neighborhood angry. "Mountains to cities without agricultural period" kind inhabitable, I think.

 No.44358

>>44355
what about japan building more artificial islands?


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 No.34725[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Maybe this belongs more on /hob/ and if the mods agree I would hold no ill will for them for moving or deleting it but I recently got around to watching Serial Experiments Lain and wanted to find some other wizzards with good reccomendations for /dep/ anime. The ones of course given are succubi last tour and Lain. I would personally not count Watamote as it seems quite shallow and everything turns out fine in the end and whatnot. So what are some other anime, manga or light novels dealing with actual depression or schizophrenia and not in the mainstream boohoo am so sad way.
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 No.44173

>>44146
a streamer was marathoning this one night and it looked so interesting but the shit I had to do at the time prevented me from following it. I was disappointed when I found it one of those animes that just end at a cliff hanger and refuses to elaborate.
>>44153
I like Texhnolyze vibe, but I could never get into this series. It's such a slow burn with odd visuals and weird jump cuts all I could follow is that it was about a boxer pinening after some succubus.

 No.44195

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Hold on but what about anime and manga that aren't just depressing but also try to convey something important? I mean, lain isn't pure depression, it's also trying to relay some ideas to you. Granted, I may still have no frickin clue whatsoever what the hell it is that it's trying to tell you, but there's definitely a message in there.
So yeah, what about anime or manga that both fits the atmosphere and the symbolism?

 No.44197

>>44172
what changed?

 No.44356

Happy birthday, Lain!

(First aired on 06.07.1998, although past midnight though)

 No.44357

>>44195
Yeah I couldn't get into lain either and got bored of it, not enough titties and skirts

I'm watching freezing now, it's got a great balance of story and titties


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 No.24616[Reply]

Satou would about 37 if we base it around the time the original Welcome to the NHK book was published. If they made another book or series that revisited his life in the present day what do you think it would be about?
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 No.42114

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>>42113
I've read it, was it necessary? it's only 30 page long and add nothing of value. I would even say nothing has change between this one and the LN. why did he wrote that?
I've read The LN, the manga and watched the anime. all of them had differents things that make them unique: you had different point of vue (for example, the manga was more comical I'd say). but rebuild of NHK…what is he trying to do ?
also,
>first chapter
does it mean rebuild isn't over yet? I thought it was just a chapter. of 30 pages only but it seems it will have a chapter 2, am I right or wrong??

 No.42122

Is Welcome to NHK closet book that really capture the ethos and mind of a NEET and almost wiz?

 No.42125

>>42124
Delete this post and never ever post anything like this ever again you pathetic little worm. You pestilent tumour. You rancid fart.

 No.42126

>>42125
what wad the post about, I want to know please

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Randompost rescue bump to augment the /dep/ anime thread's idea


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 No.323901[Reply]

No politics or religion in the crawl thread, please.

>Ambient sounds to wash away distraction
https://asoftmurmur.com/
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 No.324275

>>324266
Obsessed o algo

 No.324559

It's wild that the trajectory from horse armour was to the ESA claiming third-party/private servers are illegal.

I blame normalfags and zoomers.

 No.324560

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"I blame normalfags and zoomers."

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Happy "White stars on blue with red and White stripes anime succubus bikini day"!

 No.324663

>>324560
You're telling me it isn't?


/wiz/

 No.229116[Reply]

how do you feel about aging alone? no children, no wife, no family, minimum pension.

 No.229117

Hopefully I'm gone before the time comes, even if by suicide, life is unnecessarily long for what it's worth and if it's already gotten dull from a young age the more unbearable it will become. I do wonder how the other gen-z will go about it, they are the first generation of people that overwhelmingly won't have children either because of choice or impossibility, politics change fast so you might see mandatory euthanasia for those who are not wealthy enough just so that the government can save money on taxes, or retirement age increased to 85. Maybe in the 2050s those living in the West and China who are deemed a bit too old will be forced to fight in the 100% spontaneous and unplanned war for the independence of Taiwan.

 No.229124

>mandatory euthanasia
unlikely with the likely public backlash
i can see it being made more accessible though or doctors allowed to make the decision in cases of dementia or unconsciousness

 No.229126

>>229116
The best plan I have is to work until I'm 50, then coast on whatever savings I have and rope when they run out. By then my parents (who I live with) will likely be dead. I generally don't see any way past suicide at some point. I have no interest in watching my body and mind deteriorate or becoming trapped inside my body. Frankly I'm hoping there will be some kind of assisted euthanasia programs popping in the future.


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Recreating various outside situations(hungry,thirsty,stuck,etc,etc) results in invisibility and speed,omnipotence,superpeople,geniuses,youngness,changing you and reality,personally affecting reality,your mind returning to the past (time travel).The elements.Vitamins,metals and minerals.Eating or drinking the same food again and again or a combination of things or not eating or drinking enough.Surrounding things or farther,farthest away things.People who are acidic,nervous,shitty and others are being assalted,bleeding and puking acid.Each thing personally affects reality example-eating salt and then being assalted.The parts of the spectrum of each thing that have the opposite reaction to the parts of the spectrums which cause aging,retards,sickness,etc,etc and there's the other parts in the middle (example-the berry spectrum has the healthiest berries and poisonous berries and the other berries in the middle).The soaps are killing people,the nerve and skin damage, feeling hot,dizzy,throbbing,burning and sick?Peoples bodies are being damaged and aged by the soaps,shampoos,hot tubs,swimming pools,stress,working,gravity,infections,viruses,bacteria,loud sounds,rubs,creams,pills,food,beverages,etc,etc.The past,present and future co-exist.People are travelling to the future and to the past.People are sending messages to the future and to the past and receiving messages sent from the future and from the past.Releasing particles and energy,absorbing energy or draining energy.Each reaction has an equal and opposite reaction.Various materials and shapes.Aliens,people are visiting and leaving this world.Blood samples and contacted materials to get peoples DNA,cloning,growing,making,genetically modifying and using the copies.The souls of the dead and others are going into other peoples bodies to be young and healthy.Some people know other peoples thoughts and are communicating telepathically and are controlling peoples minds and bodies and murdering people.They're waking people and causing sleeping problems and deaths.Communicating through nightmares sticking what feels pins and hot objects into the genitals.People are using other people to say their thoughts.Your suspicious,nature's etc examples,stuck in this nest.The TV creeps and others accusing and causing murders of people watching and listening by saying,words and images.

 No.229089

What do you mean? I cannot read all of this.

 No.229123

this is nonsense


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 No.324033[Reply]

I don't think AI will be around for long, and not for the reason people think.

AI is very old technology, the LLMs utilized are from the 1950s. When computers were first invented they tried using artificial neurons that learnt (the Perceptron). The problem was back then memory and scaling, you could get one node to learn but by the time it went to the next it started to forget. The hardware wasn't there. Because of this AI bots relied on binary tree if/else statements and weren't programmed to learn for decades.

All that happened in the 2010s was that hardware became available to stack LLMs on top of each other. The technology behind AI is veeeeery old, it's a hardware problem. If you're some nerd that reads into tech innovations you'll find the same is true for most inventions. Wood pulp paper wasn't suddenly eureka invented in the 19th century, it's that the steam engine made the processing of wood through mulching possible. The automatic threshing machine wasn't eureka invented, it's that there were dozens of invisible small innovations that fed into it that went unthanked, like the complex mathematic epicycloid calculations that went into the gear functions that some mathematics nerds and clockmakers perfected decades ago.

Anyways, the actual supply chains that are currently feeding the current top of the line GPUs and chips are unsustainable. They're spread across so many countries and it's like a precarious inverted pyramid, each part of the chip fabrication is a monopoly because it's stretching human ingenuity and ability to its absolute limit. And for every part of the input (the lenses, the robotic arms, the chemical acids, the light diodes for the lasers, etc) there's like another 5,000+ companies making bespoke tools for specialists. It's quite literally not cost effective or arguably even possible to scale production further. Like the Concorde and other supersonic jets, the rising costs are not due to economic constraints, but human. The concorde went out of service, and likewise AI will too.

The AI bubble will burst once they try to recuperate costs, once they find out that businesses don't want to pay $100,000 for the slop, they'll get a government bail out. The government will bail it out thinking they're getting a palatinr tier surveillance engine. This will turn out to be a white elephant because the AI data centers built will require replacing every 3 years due to the GPUs burning out, costing hundreds Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.324526

>>324369
>LLMs are incapable of generating new solutions for anything
Then how come they solved some previously unsolved mathematical problems?

 No.324527

>>324526
Math problems don't rely on new solutions. The nature of numbers don't change from one problem to the next. The only barrier to solving a math problem is how many of the numbers in the problem can be remembered and comprehended by any given human or machine at a time. A human or calculator doesn't have the memory to keep track of all the numbers at once. An LLM hooked up to a cloud computing supercenter, or a modern gaming PC with 64gb of RAM, has the headroom to keep track of all numbers in a sequence. The calculation functions the LLM is running are the same as those on a student scientific calculator, but now with beefed up memory enough to keep track of where it is in the sequence and what it has done so far. It's a solid case of "throwing more memory at it is the solution".

 No.324603

>>324527
>literal description of inventing
Oh, mental gymnastics, mental gymnastics

 No.324629

>>324603
Definitions aren't mental gymnastics. You math nerds are all mentally ill.

 No.324661

>>324603
You're missing the point. It's not the actual LLMs doing the calculating. They're just loading up some Wolfram Alpha libraries or whatever and plugging in the numbers. Feeding the calculator for you, if you will. The only thing LLMs are (imo) somewhat useful for is parsing natural human language into queries or tasks that the computer can understand, though even that is iffy since hallucination is still a thing and the whole process is non-deterministic. So it's never going to be reliable in any sense of the word.
So what you have is a piece of moderately useful middleware that interfaces between human and machine which doesn't justify the massive investments and datacenter buildouts.


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 No.308343[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The Time God does not forget nor forgive edition. You will do this again.

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 No.308934

>>308928
>nuclear family wizard is mad at both parents

Been there.
Still stuck with them. However, the knowledge on serial monogamy among our cavemen ancestors - as opposed to the "cereal monogamy" of our farmer ancestors - helps me to realize my parents' marriage was the chemistry thing, not the having each other's back thing AS OPPOSED TO MY EXPECTATIONS

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Almost certain I got ingual hernia or femoral hernia.
Had ingual hernia as a kid and almost died on the operating table due to them not being able to wake me up from induced sleep.
Since then I've ruined my health in as many ways as possible, BP medication has me on really low heart rate, like sometimes below 40 during sleep, often below 50 during the day.
I don't think I'd wake up this time around.

Is this it? Am I going to die at 30 on the operating table?

I'm honestly too scared to even go get a proper diagnosis right now, because I just have a bad feeling about this whole thing. There is no nonsurgical option allegedly.
The best outcome would be "maintenance and monitoring" until I can actually lose enough weight to lose the meds and maybe survive anesthesia.

I'm terrified. Trying to cope with immersing myself in a game world for now. Despite all the misery I still wanna live another 20 or so years… Wish I did something with my life up until this point.
Wish I could just magic all my problems away…

 No.308951

>>308950
Just get into smoking weed or something that makes your heart rate higher. There was a YouTube weed guy who died of a heart attack a couple of years ago; he said he was just chilling at his computer, got up and suddenly had a 180 bpm heart rate for hours. It’s from years of smoking.

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>>308951
I don't think that would solve the problem at hand.
I'd need to get off meds before a surgery which means losing weight and even then the whole thing is like a death gamble.

On a somewhat related note I am looking into getting a vape of some kind to help not stuff my face all day.

 No.308956

>>308950
I got inguinal hernia and I just act like it doesn't exist. I am probably making it worse because I just can't stop exercising.


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 No.303736[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

You will still be stuck browsing this thread in 2026 edition

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 No.308833

>>308820
Work has a habit of running the place at 74-79 degrees all year round for us (they have commercial AC, the bosses just never leave their 68 degree offices and don't care). That means I just work slow and always carry a small piece of equipment to 'look busy' in case they do wander out of their cushy towers.

 No.308845

I would recommend a technical sales gig. All my co workers detects the autism, and gave the natural reaction normies gave to autists, especially the wom*n and feminized "men". But fortunately I managed to held on to this gig. Overall a very comfy pseudo NEET job. You need to make rather frequent visits to customer, which paradoxically I can do really since without any lingering personal attachments, it appears I have internalized such interactions the way a gamer approach a conversation simulator.


I might even say I do be better in a sense than some of my co-workers in building relationships with customers, for some reason the opposite is happens when it comes to customers, I could shut my mouth most of the time, merely picking the correct conversation options, and they just seem to naturally like me for some reason.


The ultimate perk of this job is technical conversations blend with a bit of a personal touch increase that affinity bar as well if not more than casual conversation. Anyway, as long as you do reasonably ok to maintain your accounts and keep up appearances, you should be ok.

Anyway, you do need to accustomed yourself to replying to messages confidently, and drive to places. Which is comfy, I can listen orthodox saints/ schizotube/ crabtube/ history-geopolitictube/ 40k tube on the way. A lot of decision making responsibility fell to you, but this is still managable, as long as you're fine with management, they were the ultimate fell guy if things go wrong.

Since you are basically your own boss day to day, its more forgiving for neurodivergents. The chanllenges of a white collar job for adhd is still there, but you have more room to mitigate these.

 No.308937

>>308764
I would kill to be 23 again and not make the wrong decisions which impacted my health. You are but a baby, try walk the right path

 No.308953

Have to go to a course to get some liquor license on the 20th. I shouldn't have agreed to it but it's so hard to say no. Of course it's on my day off, and I'll be attending it with mostly succubi. What a nightmare, in my country the culture is basically singing and dancing and games for these courses. The actual legal information needed takes 20 minutes to learn, but the course will last 8 hours and filled with games just to fluff up the salary of the course sellers. Gonna fucking hate it.

 No.308955

Botcoin > work


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 No.308794[Reply]

It kinda sucks knowing that people hate you, wherever i go i am met with this endless negativity that i am just supposed to ignore. Even when i try to be friendly and polite i still somehow find a way to fuck up and make people hate my guts. I am sick of it to be honest, sick of fuckinh everything. God hates me and i hate him back, because why wouldnt i?
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 No.308942

Normies have a 6th sense I swear to god. Especially succubi, I work with several and I'm nothing but professional just do my job exactly as I should, even making it easier for them "Dont worry i'll handle it". They give me death stares. It's the same facial expression I'd probably give if someone told me they raped a minor. Utter disgust and venom, why the hell are they doing to me when there's literal crackheads in our store abusing them daily, shouldn't someone like me just be written off as a nobody that isn't a problem??? I don't care if they don't like me, it's the visible disgust that gets me because that indicates they would very likely throw me under the bus or purposely sabotage me in some way just for fun, or even because they deem me deserving of punishment for some reason. I can't stand it

 No.308944

>>308942
If you don't mind me asking, what's the job? What class of people are we talking about?

I've always enjoyed the pure look of contempt mixed with concern and disgust when I'm floundering in a social situation. I try to not look people in the face and feel they're weighing me up when they do - this might be my insecure interpretation, though.

 No.308945

>>308942
>shouldn't someone like me just be written off as a nobody that isn't a problem
They can sense you aren't like them.

 No.308949

>>308942

100%. I'd rather be marked as harmless. I've seen some people have some success becoming a "dog person" or other "in" with the normies but I'm not changing for their approval.

 No.308954

>>308944
It's a supermarket and the succubi I'm referencing are highschoolers/uni students and 25~50 y/o succubi. Older succubi are fine I've noticed. They're probably just happy to be dealing with a White man lol.

>>308945
Oh for sure they can sense it. Shouldn't I be less of a threat than a literal psycho criminal though? It's not like these criminals are handsome or sociable either, they are weirder than I am but they still get better treatment than me. It's so weird.

>>308949
I like the idea of a normie camouflage. I also agree not changing for their approval but I do want to be written off the hit list. I just don't want to be attacked and harassed and I'm willing to make certain changes to ensure that. All within reason. I remember in my 20s when I had to walk everywhere I had to act a little off putting around the ghetto types to get them to leave me alone. I'd scratch myself a lot, sniff loudly, and scream every 2 minutes or so lol. They wrote me off as not worth interacting with. If I acted "normal" it's just constants bombardments of "got a dollar bro?" or other variants.


/wiz/

 No.227831[Reply]

I think that today, autistic and witchy people have a huge advantage over neurotypical people. We have extensive knowledge on a wide variety of subjects, we are determined in the face of adversity, and even if we are socially awkward or find it difficult to talk to people (this is my case, I am socially isolated) we can come together in these spaces and stop forcing social contact with neighbors or parents who ask us for the umpteenth time why we still don't have any friends or a girlfriend. Personally, I'd rather go online to investigate the Epstein case than have friends, and I think that's the case for many of you here. The others are completely ridiculous with their social codes to follow. They restrict themselves in terms of intellectual capacity in a completely stupid way to appear socially acceptable because the norm prefers a dumb athlete to a brilliant intellectual. That's why most people prefer athletes like soccer players or basketball players to Gregori Perelman, who solved Poincaré's conjecture. This whole circus is completely ridiculous. People make fun of their neighbors when they themselves are stupid, but to reassure themselves, they say that others are stupid and criticize us because we are not “within the norm.” We do not accept the social contract imposed by popular dogma, which wants us to we criticize to reassure ourselves without accumulating knowledge. Also, do people really compare their time spent on TikTok or Instagram to the knowledge in books, articles, and other sources before criticizing others? Maybe we should look in the mirror and accept that we are trash in order to change and follow a virtuous path that respects others. That's why we're here discussing this: we need to create a close-knit community and distance ourselves from the idiots who criticize us, keeping only those who understand us.And besides, it's not AI that's going to save these idiots. They need to rediscover what it means to read books, to dream, and to use their brains.
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 No.228991

>>228986
Because back in 1930s the cases of autism were ruled out to be a form of early presented schizophrenia

Only in late 1940s, *they* realised a rather peculiar form of weirdness among kids, that goes without hallucinations
DOESN'T REALLY ALIGN WITH
the mental illness that comes in many types yet is known for causing hallucinations, "voices in your head", and alike.

 No.228992

>>227831
>Personally, I'd rather go online to investigate the Epstein case than have

The 1990s "•f•r•i•e•n•d•s•" staple of topics to discuss is long gone from being hot, mate

Basically, the "we should fix the society somehow" motto is already enough to make friends. It used to be the case in 2000s Russia, in a sense.

 No.228993

>>228990
I'm talking about multiple characteristic behaviours and traits on the same person, not only a few.

 No.229013

>>228993
Multiple? Heh. Zero, despite being an even number, is not a natural number.

 No.229120

If you feel your efforts aren't being rewarded as much as you think you deserve, then perhaps try something else. Intelligence isn't the only skill you can cultivate; there are plenty of other things you can do.
Life is long you have plenty of time to learn and experience lot of different stuff, it would be sad to limit yourself to just one thing for some reason.


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 No.8728[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Just a random general where you can post and discus whatever music stuff that doesn't quite fit into another existing thread, but you don't feel like making whole thread for it.
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Let me tell you how it go in here, boy it's kinda cold in here, you ain't got nobody make a stove in here

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 No.307994[Reply]

The day of Armageddon has inched towards me in just 2 hours. I completed a worthless degree in IT, by completed, I mean gave the final exams of the final semester just 2 hours ago, and I returned home, which is in a third world country. And the results are as I expected, as a matter of fact, when I came back I could literally feel the tension inside my house mounting.

I was expecting one day or another, for this to happen but it's surreal how quickly it has happened, my parents had a massively heated argument with me, and honestly, it took me a few years back when my parents used to abuse the hell out of me, I can for some reason, literally feel the terror of abuse in the lower half of my spine and in my kidneys.

The question is obvious, which is what will I do next? Because I am about to graduate completely unemployed, in this little third world country, and of course the parents aren't happy, as it is in the nature of everyone maybe mine as well to be pissed seeing a man wake up at 9AM and ask for breakfast, and take it back to the Air Conditioned room, the resentment is off the charts for obvious reason of what my parents would consider "stealing" from them because I am not paying back in any meaningful labour, seems like I will have to wake up at 6AM in the morning tomorrow and not use Air Conditioner at all.

It was honestly, a massive argument, I just few hours ago got back to my house from a scorching 42C temperature and now I am being cooked internally. At this point, I have started to prepare for the worst, any day in "my" house could be my last, I am trying to gather all the IDs, gather all the documents for eventual kick, and a kick in a country like this is extremely close to death. Certainly slightly different from other countries where you can live in your car, given that in this country the car ownership rate is 8%. So there goes living in a Honda Fit out of the Window.

I must get a job, I have tried getting a job online, from microtasks, to annotation for OneForma, to trying to act like an agent for PornStars online, to chat on their behalf, and I have earned no more and no less than 0 in any currency of this planet. The jig is coming to an end. While I am not familiar with the thoughts of life in the Christian Theology because I wasn't born in a Christian Family, but my Judgement, rather Execution is near. Fuck me. There is very real chance that I will have to take a permanent dip into a Holy River. I meaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.308116

>>308107
What happened with Sri Lanka is that the IMF and World Bank rushed in and gave them gibs to restart their agricultural industry in a more free-market fashion. I think it was something like a 5 billion dollar grant, which also allowed Sri Lanka to leverage itself with more debt and get the ball rolling again. In exchange for that, the votebank shit of farmers just voting for gibs was made to stop, but there's a lot of pressure there to return to the old ways of unsustainable subsidies.

>>308112
There's two parts of British rule, the EIC and direct crown rule. From what I understand (my knowledge of this part is more patchy) is that the EIC was on its way to becoming a typical extractive empire, utilizing the same mercenary castes to maintain its rule, and playing divide and conquer. They gained power initially by offering a less-corrupt alternative to the Mughals, and Indians themselves turned to them, it was a bottom-up selection choice in a lot of ways. After the ball got rolling and they blobbed over the sub-continent, they started to utilize the same dirty tactics the Mughals once used. It started to embarrass the British crown and lead to PR issues when some of these renegade mercenary castes took it too far and started looting Indian cities.

British crown rule was very expensive for the British, but was managed like a standardized administrative Empire. The actual British Raj people generally have in mind only really came into existence for the last 70 years of colonial rule, it was a relatively short period of time. They tried in the 1930s to squeeze a profit out of their colonies and do what the Marxists have always accused them of doing, applying protectionism and locking their entire empire into a common market. It just didn't really work and they were still haemorrhaging money. The entire reason the British fucked off in the 1940s with barely a fight is because exponential population growth in India made the situation financially and logistically untenable.

I do think the British are responsible for formalizing caste in a way that didn't help anyone, and institutionalizing it. It was done for two reasons. The first was that they asked the local powers how caste worked, and the people in charge at the time gave the most aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.308125

>>308116
>They tried in the 1930s to squeeze a profit out of their colonies and do what the Marxists have always accused them of doing, applying protectionism and locking their entire empire into a common market. It just didn't really work and they were still haemorrhaging money.
This is where I will disagree with you, Britain, as much as I respect the country and it's people, they are not the kind of country to give away a single sterling in charity. There is so much literature on this online, in books both British and Indian, the country was for most part the Crown Jewel of Britain, apart from last two years, which thanks to the war were an anomaly and bankrupted Britain, and even in that war which was not ours or concerned us in anyways we paid with our treasury of money and paid in blood for which we got nothing in return and nobody remembers us for that and in a war that was not ours to begin with. India was throughly a major asset for them, and they milked it well. It's not a romantic time for us.
>It's their kids that are the worst for this behavior
Damn, that surprises me a lot, I know a few of them, and almost all of them detest India. And not only that all succubi date out, I don't think men will date out, because the blackpill dictates that being an Indian is as bad as being a 5'3 male in the dating market. And in both Indian Men and succubi born there, I have heard nothing from them except disdain for India and even greater disdain for newly arriving people, they call them fobbies or fobs or something. This is surprising. But then again as I set it doesn't interest me much what goes on there, because I mean, once you change the country, and you have kids there, those kids as far as I am concerned are Americans and in their eyes we're backward people responsible for ruining their reputation and for the racism they face.

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>>308125
>This is where I will disagree with you, Britain, as much as I respect the country and it's people, they are not the kind of country to give away a single sterling in charity.

You could be correct on this part. I have read a little on the British Raj but not too much, and most of the sources I have are right wing Austrian economics perspectives and /pol/tard chuddery. The idea mainly being the opportunity cost for the British and that the money spent on colonialism could've been invested elsewhere and generated a similar or better return. Although for what it's worth I think colonialism in India was a massive mistake either way, and I wish the British were never involved there.

But even many of the academics that are critical of the marxist claims that colonial Europe looted the third world carve out a slight exception for India. Many of the more mainstream books I've read on the 19th century second wave of European colonialism talk about how India was strangely an exception to the moneysink thesis. The book "Oxford University's Short History of the 19th century" (pic related) had an assortment of academics all saying "yeah the British Raj was profitable, a few east indies territories were profitable, the rest really weren't". Africa absolutely was a moneysink and there's so many cabinet meetings government officials in Germany and France held talking about it. The German government wanted their own version of the East India company for Africa, so they could offload the colonies onto them, but no private investor was willing to get involved.

>Damn, that surprises me a lot, I know a few of them, and almost all of them detest India.

I can't mindread but I guess they just have a diaspora identity and feel they don't belong. Maybe it's their way of pushing back against or coping with the increasing racism and they don't really believe it? And I don't know man, people genuinely get along better than you read online. I'm an older guy that went to school when there was just one token pakistani guy and one token sikh succubus, and now it's like 15% of my city is indian. If there's a group of four or five teens doing something after school downtown, it's common for an indian to be in the group. The online talk about it only being succubi and the men being sexless virPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.308127

>>308126
>What do I know though, I'm a sexless virgin myself just judging friendship groups I see on the street. But yeah, it doesn't really impact you where you are.
I there's one thing that unites wizards here, I only used to read about relationships when I used to be an angry and rageful person back then who just discovered blackpill and terms like involuntary celibate but at this point, I think most of us are trying to accept or working towards living with our fate. Hopefully, though I hope Indians don't cause you much trouble but hey, I have lived in India since birth I know how truly horrendous the people from this country are, and I guess it was a mistake for Western Countries to accept so many immigrants from India, although still baffles me cause I thought it was very hard to immigrate.
>Anyways, thanks for replying to my excessive rambling. I hope things work out for you man.
No problem wiz-bro, if anything I quite enjoyed talking to you whether we saw eye to eye or not on things, but I am you know typical loner with no friends, no internet friends so it's always so nice to talk to you and other wizards like you on this forum, unless of course normies and co will try to shut this place down as well.

 No.308948

Fast fact.
There is "industrial grade equipment" that has its electronic components to be programmed. I don't know if you can code in UART or Ladder or have experience making flowcharts as part of visual programming, but here's the thing. Look for industrial stuff to programm. No StackOverflow, no neuroslop, it's supposed to behave flawlessly so they aren't going to let LLMs in *that* easy.

That's where your real degree in computers - once combined with your wizardry - comes in handy: you get trusted with "real" equipment and not some CSS/PHP/Java/'script let alone the non-language. Besides, industrial shit isnt prone to massive anti-hacker updates, unlike, say, Chrome.


Cheers and take it easy.


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Stepped on the scale today and realized that despite the initial "push" from a medical crisis a year ago, I basically regained all weight I lost (minus 5-10kg).
I also realized I've been working for almost 3 years now, going to be 30 the same week I'll hit my 3 years of work too.
3 years… of wages wasted.

I don't even know what the fuck I spent most of it on. It just escapes me.
Still live with mom and all my necessities are taken care of she takes nothing from me.
I had a blessed opportunity these past 3 years to save up for the dogshit future that hit the world now and I wasted it on toys and basically indulging all I couldn't as a NEET with no money.
The worst is that since I'm an impulsive retard I mostly have nothing to show for it either.

Health is even more fucked then ever before since I never took action.
Rather every action that didn't prove fruitful or flat out failed resulted in my absolute surrender for another month or three or six…
Absolutely defeated at the starting line basically.

To get to the point of this thread. Those of you that live a decently structured, responsible and stable life, how?
I barely have a sense of time. Kinda like when I was a NEET, just instead of 12-16 hours of sleeping and then PC stuff I'm forced to work a rather easy, blessed job.
Once it passes I just feel like I'm teleported to the next shift until I get to sleep through a weekend and months pass.
Even chronic pains don't make me act much. What does one even do to live?

The worst part really is that so many years went down the drain and I really have nothing to show for it. Not even memories.
I want to at least look back on SOMETHING fondly when I'm dying someday.
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 No.229008

I think all those people you see doing "hard" or "boring" goals are still doing exactly what they want. It's just that their unique psychology is structured to make productive tasks coincide with their wants. Like the chad who grows up in a sports family and his father always talks about discipline or whatever. He builds up this model of physical hard work. He ends up becoming this fitness freak, again doing exactly what he wants.

Then there's wizards. they are doing what they want already. It just doesn't usually coincide with what a normie calls "productive." we are not machines. so you can't just be like: these goals i will achieve no matter what. in reality, you'll only do the things you really want. So like, people who lose weight… maybe they end up having others look down on them to such an extent that the desire to prove them wrong is greater than the desire to eat pizza. Still, doing what you want. I don't think human can really do anything outside of what they want. you need a reason that isn't bullshit. most people don't have any reason to do stuff so they just stagnate.

anyway, my reason is to hurt niggers, and thats what keeps me going.

 No.229009

>>229008
>I don't think human can really do anything outside of what they want. you need a reason that isn't bullshit.

being healthy isn't bullshit. your proud tradition of living outside of responsibility is though.

just think it through all the way and experience it once and you will know that being healthy is worth the price of admission. no pizza tastes as good as being healthy feels, no candy can come close to being thin and feeling light as a feather. the feeling of ability outshines every tasty treat that the factory can come up with.

you just live your life wrong and you will say everything not to look like the fool that you are behaving like. probably the advertisement that filled your brain with wrong images. like good-looking thin people eating garbage, that's one of the worst images that is clouding your perception because outside of advertisement, the unhealthy food is eaten by people who are visibly unhealthy and this would otherwise repel you if you weren't drip-fed lies by advertisement how there are healthy people eating trash. there aren't, those are actors.

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>>229009
I agree with you but you have to understand people's psychology is different. like right now im working on multiple projects to hopefully make lots of $ again. i just lay in my bed all day doing research. i work from the time i get up to when i sleep. i dont have time to even cook properly so i just eat crap. my priorities are different to yours. id love to do fitness stuff but not everyone wants the same things. thats kind of what i was getting at with the op. you cant force your priorities. either you want to do something and you do it, or you don't. most fat people have other priorities over getting healthy even if they say they want to do it.

 No.229053

>>229026
>I agree with you but you have to understand people's psychology is different. like right now im working on multiple projects to hopefully make lots of $ again.

stupid reason but whatever

>i just lay in my bed all day doing research.

why you are lying in the bed though, a human body that is properly maintained will be more able to to research, how do you even type a keyboard when you are lying in bed, aren't your arms in all the wrong places?

>i work from the time i get up to when i sleep. i dont have time to even cook properly so i just eat crap.

you shouldn't cook food anyways. that's a modern invention that the body does better without. i only eat fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds and i don't cook, i just cut, blend and/or spice.

>my priorities are different to yours. id love to do fitness stuff but not everyone wants the same things.

yeah you want money because you think you can throw money at problems and you will believe that right until the point you understand that people want to tentacle you in monetary transactions.

>thats kind of what i was getting at with the op. you cant force your priorities. either you want to do something and you do it, or you don't.

i hope your research will someday lead you to the conclusion that your priorities are short sighted.
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So.
I've been working for several years already.
>>228138
… of wages wasted
In my case, those were my immediate relatives who would siphon my money. Cannot blame them too hard for that since there both on pension with no savings.
>health
>even
I saved my health in okay condition… by nagging my boss into buying me a useable armchair instead of my basic crappy chair.
My leg get fu…nky, though. I managed to deal with its funkinness by replacing my shoe soles with

A) orthopedic soles (foamed resin in my loafers/Oxford shoes)
B) orthopedic soles stickered to my basic leather soles from said Oxford shoes (makes wonders in sneakers)
C) fixed my bicycle

>on toys and basically indulging
Huh. Been there too. However, now I have cyber toys that can be used as my sleep improvers.

>how to become more functional
We somewhat managed to patch up our home(s), using my money. I replaced a lot of old "quality stuff" with some decent basic stuff that would fit the season. I also got a lot of broken stuff fixed or maintained.

So here we are. No savings, because I really needed to fix a lot of issues that kept me down in the first place


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