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 No.226439[Reply]

The last time I visited this image board was about a year ago. There wasn't much activity, and I eventually got bored. Today I visited it again, and I'm left wondering, considering its somewhat “doomer” nature, how many of us are still alive on this IB? I wouldn't be surprised if, in a few years, many of us are gone, not from this site, but from life itself.

The last time I thought about suicide was recently. It wasn't the first time, nor will it be the last. I'm sure of that. I know I'm not the only one here who feels this way.

Is the site's apparent low activity due to this, or this is just a very niche website?.
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 No.228063

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>>226662
What's the difference between a wizard and a 30+ year old virgin crab, really?
Yes, obviously there is a great divide between the extremes. On the one hand you have the powerful wizard, unbothered and content. On the other hand you have the frustrated crab who humiliated himself with numerous failed attempts at getting succubi.
But what about the middle of the spectrum?

Never even once did I go out of my way for the sake of succubi. I have zero interest in dating and all the social nonsense that comes with relationships. Does that make me a volcel?
But I was never in the position to reject succubi either. And I'm not powerful or happy, I have not "found myself" or "reached my potential." I cope and seethe, and I do feel inferior to the average person. Does that make me a crab?

Either way I'm lifelong celibate, a male virgin past the age of 30. So I'm a wizard by definition, but also by circumstance rather than by volition.

Does it even matter?

 No.228073

>>226552
Most of us were like 18-25 ten years ago. I remember the board was really angsty and closer to a modern crab forum.

Would-be wizzies are posting on crab sites.

>>228063
>On the other hand you have the frustrated crab who humiliated himself with numerous failed attempts at getting succubi.

People overestimate how much crabs try and seethe. Most are sardonic, apathetic blackpillers.

 No.228085

>>228063

>Does it even matter?


i think what matters is that men who live close to succubi subject themselves to an abundance of limitations with undeniable negative consequences for your physical, mental, emotional and spiritual health. females construct prisons around men and call it a home. the average husband is a complete cuck, you have to search a long time to find one who is only slightly a cuck. their energy is farmed, females insist them to be cattle and then resent them when they turn cattle… they don't get to spend their energy and ability how they see fit, they are either governed by their female or they waste their life fighting their female. either way the female will be a burden they have to carry and then the female usually gets fat so it becomes heavier to carry as age slowly weakens the man. the healthier you live, the slower the weakening.

you are one of the few people who can spend their energy how they see fit mostly, i think this is the thing that matters. how do you spend your energy, how do you spend your time. husbands wish for things they can't have. you can wish for things and have them. you can create the conditions of life for yourself that you want. you can have a desire, a dream, a wish, then come up with a plan on how to get it, execute the plan and in case it works, you have the thing and if it doesn't you usually lean a ton which often comes in handy later.

it would be a waste if you did not make wise use of your time and energy and turn into a god in the process.

 No.228110

>>226439
imageboards in general feel more dead nowadays, idk what happened but like back in 2012 or so all the imageboards wizchan/wizardchan included.
nowadays you go to 4chan and shits painfully slow, same threads linger around for more than a day on boards that used to be very active.
I tried posting there recently as I saw a thread I wanted to reply to but got bombarded with really complicated captchas, timers that make me wait and then having to do the captcha like 3 times only to get the message that my IP range is banned. the thread I wanted to reply to was also shortly after pruned and it didnt even seem like it was breaking any rules.
if thats the average experience everyone has there nowadays I kind of get why it became dead/slow.
but why wizchan? its slower than it used to be, maybe wizards moved to somewhere else or most an hero'd?, I heard other chans died too like the other one the wheelchair cripple made or the one with the weed addicted junkies.
so if this trend continues there probably wont be any IBs in the future.

 No.228121

>>226601
Where do succubi shit? Where do Chinese people have funerals?

We don’t know, but it has to be somewhere.



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 No.305362[Reply]

I miss being a proper neet so much and im jealous of people who can be
I miss just being able to play some stupid game 12 hours a day and watch videos on the side
i still dont have friends or a gf so what am I doing
everything is worse
my body
my mind
my freedom
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 No.306667

I'm in a position right now where NEETing is not an option unfortunately. I miss being a NEET a lot also. The worst part is the job is in-person customer support. Every customer and co-worker I am forced to interact with reinforces my desire to self-isolate tenfold. It's gotten so bad I am using AI to try and cope with daily life. Nowadays I prompt it to give me a NEET scenario like an average day in my life back then so I can daydream. Don't know how much more of this I can take to be honest. It's only been 2 months…

>>306663
What kind of drugs do you do? I want something intense that makes me feel very good but won't fuck me up too much the next day. Any recommendations? I only ever drank alcohol, smoked cigarettes and very rarely weed.

 No.306668

>>306667
you should try dmt or some other psychedelic, they dont mess with your body physically.

 No.306685

I am the opposite of you, i have too much free time that i don't know what to do with it

 No.306718

>>305362
OP, had a neetbucks and be happy

 No.306724

I was a neet then a wagie now half and half. The only good thing is money. I wanted to move to SEA after grinding but nope. Just find small joys.



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 No.301325[Reply]

>Join discord server
>Too nervous to talk to anyone and make friends
>Become a lurker and feel sad when I see others make connections and friends
>end up leaving the server

Any tips to help stop this dilemma?
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 No.306510

>>306479
Yeah, and IRL it's not that easy to be a dick, where most of the time it's crowded.

 No.306525

this is a problem of mine too i want to stop lurking

 No.306672

Okay, I tried Discord AGAIN, and I believe it's not for me.
The go-to advice for making friends is "just joing a niche hobby discord sub bro!"
It's all nice, but the biggest hurdle for me was the small talk and off topic discussions.
Basically, you are walled off from the most of the server until you prove you are a chill guy, and only then you are allowed to see the hidden channels.
I did just that, tried to build my cred on one of the servers by participating in some stupid bullshit discussion in the off topic chat only to find that nobody posts in the hidden channels (aka on-topic channels) and like 95% of discussion is some benign shit about the users' day or some latest meme or whatever.
I hate hate HATE that I have to participate in small talk, my sped brain hates small talk.
I tried the same strategy with different subs, even purely technical ones, but they are mostly dead and nobody talks there.
Just join discord, my ass.

 No.306719

>>301325
>Discord
Discord is a shit place to make friends

 No.306723

That's insane. Just use a throwaway account



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 No.321588[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

No politics or religion in the crawl thread, please.

>Ambient sounds to wash away distraction

https://asoftmurmur.com/
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 No.323215

>>323174
Did you try to pretend like you weren't surprised by the price?
Sometimes I get myself into stupid situations like this and I try to play it cool. But it's probably obvious to the onlookers that I have no idea what I'm doing.

 No.323216

>>323215
I gave myself the biggest real life facepalm I've ever done in my life when the order came out but I don't think anybody saw.

 No.323220

Determinism vs free will arguments here are really just arguments about how much control you have over life. The actual metaphysical idea of predetermined vs spontaneous events doesn't really contradict human decision-making or effort. People here just call failing to align reality with their desire determinism and succeeding free will. It's a veil for the class struggles between wizlosers and wizchads.

 No.323258

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b*tch…


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 No.305937[Reply]

Every time I think of death, the end of my self I can feel my brain fighting it, pretty much actively trying to shut down.
It's a weird sinking feeling, thinking of the unimaginable.
People have died around me and I felt nothing, but then again I'm not an overly emotive or emotional person.

I still can't cope with death as a concept. I don't want to cease experiencing. I'd genuinely prefer hell to oblivion.

I screwed myself, my health because of a lack of attachments and care for things in general and I'm at the age where recovery is getting harder even if I try.
Mitigation is a more realistic goal if I don't already have something terminal, hopefully. (29)

How do you guys cope? I see so many people here talking about suicide and I just can't fathom it.
I suffer from many chronic ailments, pain, tinnitus (really severe) and much else. I had many absolutely horrid experiences during childhood and youth.
I have no real connection to my broken family, no connection to pretty much anyone or anything. Never loved or felt loved by anyone, not even family.
I don't pursue hobbies I'm a man of inaction. I can't even force myself to do things I supposedly enjoy.
I have one friend I talk to online exclusively in text and meaningless time wasting activities, consuming media, manga/manhua mostly.

It's a pointless life. Wasted.

Based on all of this I should probably be suicidal, but I'm the opposite. I'd be content being a specter just observing things too. I just want to persist.
I don't want this to end, I don't want to end.
I'm terrified. Sure I'm sick, in pain, constantly depressed or anxious, generally a failure, but I don't want to be gone.
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 No.306128

>>306000
Oh! Nice round number!
Please tell more on St. Aquinas part of the question

 No.306168

>>306128
evil people just are like that and live for it
can you look at someone like Epstein and imagine there is even the tiniest amount of goodness or purity, anything but the ultimate depravity in him?
there is no good guy inside the high school bully, just someone seeking to do nothing but torment
so when they die they go to the ultimate evil and depravity, that is hell

 No.306169

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I'm sorry took a while to gather the energy to reply to anything at all, wont reply to everyone, but thanks for contributing regardless.

>>305943
I'm no longer in a state prior to birth nor do I have any recollection of such.
Therefore it is reasonable to fear what comes after, at least in my eyes.

You might be spot on in some sense, I do suffer from quite a lot of ailments as described, but over all I'm sure I'm blessed compared to many.

Suffering is relative.

A strong person might think what I suffer from is nothing.
To me the suffering of a virgin normie is nothing as well, yet some just blow their brains out for not getting a female demon of their own.
Does any of that matter? Not to me. I'm sure it will get worse, I'm sure I'll suffer more as I age, I might even wish for death later.

Still I don't want to be shut down forever. I would prefer to persist, even if just a specter. I don't desire survival I desire to remain, for my awareness to continue for eternity.
For you maybe that counts as this survival instinct too, but I don't believe so.
Wanting pain to stop and wanting to not exist anymore is not the same for me.

>>305956
>you lack the fantasy to think about the unimaginable.
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 No.306172

>>305937
I'm in a similar boat. Life not worth living, but death is a taboo for me. The thought of not existing gives me have anxiety attacks; the thought of eternal existence, good or bad, fills me with dread. I'm a prisoner of my own flesh.

 No.306722

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Just had a realization.
All the times I thought "well someday"…
Someday isn't even today.
That day of action, that one day where dreams come true was 10 years ago.
It just never happened.
It passed by like any other day.
A day of inaction. Then a month and year and a decade.
It should have been. Long ago. I should be reminiscing about those days today. I don't even have the fond memories to look back on.
Failure? Is it a failure if you never tried? I don't know.

Facing mortality like this feels impossible.



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 No.306157[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.
ice cold edition
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 No.306707

>>306644
>>306645
>>306647
I guess people say that because psychosis feels good until it doesn't. When it wears off, or you start taking medication, the positive symptoms are gone, and only the negative ones are left. And with negative symptoms, it's a pretty dull life.
Anyway, I actually miss being psychotic in a way. Reality felt more than real, kinda maximalist. Everything felt even more vivid, more sharper, like I'm six again and experiencing the world for the first time.
And the vidya… Man, the vidya was something else. It was filled with cryptic meanings and had that Wow! factor that I had when I booted up my first game ever. I've never experienced quite anything like that in my life.
Well… As I've said, it's good until it isn't. Then delusions and hallucinations start, and they cause me too much distress.
But I get why people want to get off their meds. The hyper salience feels like shrooms, except I don't even need to take anything, my brain foes the trip by itself.
Anyone tried playing vidya in that sweet spot before the bad stuff start and after the psychosis begins? Maybe watching anime? I swear it's the best thing ever.

 No.306710

>>306707
I'm Christian and I watched Sword Art Online S3 Alicization while in psychosis. I saw a hidden meaning in it. The "God" of that world made everyone happy and satisfied as long as they obeyed by giving them perfect roles and memories in a very safe and orderly world, until Kirito-kun killed her. This mimics the real-life transition from near-universal Christianity to this modern bifurcation of believer and atheist/non-religious. To receive from God you must be Christian and this turning away is why everything is going to shit.
Also while in psychosis I had these sex-dreams of God (that is Christ) transforming himself in an anime succubus and us having sex.
I'm glad this has been wearing off.

 No.306714

>>306705
Man now that you mention it. The poverty thing really stuck out to me too.
I haven't bought myself a new pair of shoes in ages even though I'm not that burdened by poverty anymore as we used to.
Back in the days buying an uncomfortable pair meant I would have to struggle and wear it for a year or two even if it ended up hurting my feet in the long run.
So now unless I find a pair that is perfect on first try, first few steps I just can't buy it.

The tech stuff just feels the same, but since it's more expensive it's still a significant amount to me now. Makes it even harder.
So I just keep putting these things off.
Man… I wonder what it was like for rich kids. "Lol just buy all 4" kinds.
Life with an abundance mentality must be something else entirely.

Focusing on making progress is definitely something I relate to as well.

 No.306717

It's remarkable how much time I've wasted doing nothing.

 No.306720

The older i get, the fears creep in that the end is coming nearer. I should be relieved but i feel like there is some cosmic consequence of the way i've lived. Many report seeing the gaze of G0D , either hellfire or blinding love. I've never had. Well i'm lying, i've had visualisations of Jesus embracing me. It happened many times and i did cry. Yet i can't go in that direction. I don't have faith.The visualisations is just me , not some divine being. This reality is hell.


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 No.228116[Reply]

In short, my vision is fucked I especially notice this when I am wearing glasses.

In short, when I wear glasses they overlap on top of each other. I think the drawing I made might explain more than just words.

And no, it's still not just a problem with glasses I have even when I don't use them, but with glasses it especially makes this worse and, on top of that, I can't see without them that much.

And another thing is how my vision works. For example, if I focus on my hand instead of the box, the box will appear double, while if I focus on the box instead of the hand, the same thing will happen with my hand.

The image explains better

In short, I just want to know what my problem is and what the solution to it. Please help. I don't want to take it anymore. Please

 No.228118

This is normal. You see two images because you have two eyes. Close one.

 No.228119

Go to an eye doctor? A specialist that can do a wide variety of tests to give you a proper diagnosis. Double vision can be pretty serious, if it's not a problem with your eyes, it might even be neurological.

I had keratoconus in both eyes and the regular eye doctor lady just gave me a shitty pair of glasses and told me I'd get used to them but I never did and I just accepted living in a blurry world. Then a couple years later I read about the condition online randomly and went to a specialist that confirmed it and gave me special contact lenses and I see perfectly now. I'm pretty sure if you go to a good eye clinic, they'll figure out what's wrong and tell you how to treat it.

 No.228120

you are fucked up man maybe had a stroke



/games/

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 No.59555[Reply]

Does anybody want to play Minecraft?
You can make a free server with Oracle cloud's free tier, but i already blew my account on a server for my little brother and his classmates.
Picrel is my 2020 singleplayer world
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 No.62664

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easiest way to get ghast tears?

 No.63181

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I've been finnicking around with modded Minecraft again lately. Just with the usual fantasy magic mods like Ars Magica 2, Thaumcraft, and Witchery along with Tinker's Construct but only because I can't use MineFantasy on 1.7.10. I've been dabbling in making my own custom dungeons and NPCs using Chocolate Quest/Better Dungeons alongside Custom NPCs. Don't know if the two will work together but I hope that they do. Here's something I'm trying to put together with my lackluster building skills, I looked at the layout of Crushbone Keep from EverQuest for an idea of what to make and I plan on populating this dungeon with mobs from Lycanite's, Mo' Creatures, Dungeon Mobs, and some custom made NPCs.

If I had the equipment and dedication to set up some kind of server, I would. I think it would be fun to have a sort of Neverwinter Nights esque modpack flying around making dungeons and filling them with NPCs and custom items for people to collect.

 No.63182

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>>63181
Also another cool mod to play around with for more random and less handcrafted dungeons is Doomlike Dungeons, which you can basically edit the parameters of and make dungeon templates for extremely easily. Some I have now are:

>Undergrowth, a dungeon found in mostly forests at relatively high Y levels that is populated with shamblers, shriekers, rust monsters, spiders, wisps, spriggans, and ents, and the block palette is mostly just grass, dirt, logs, and leaves.

>Elemental Nexus, a dungeon that is filled with elementals of almost every variety mainly from Ars Magica 2 and Lycanite's. Some of the Lycanite's elementals will kill each other and cause chaos. There are pools of frostfire, ethereum, water, and lava all over the dungeon which is mostly a palette of quartz.
>Warg den, a narrow dirt den full of rats, barghests, wargs, and hellhounds.
>Ogre cave, a sprawling labyrinth of stone full of rats, kobolds, trolls, ettins, and ogres.
>Tomb, a large dungeon of mossy stone brick full of ghouls, wraiths, zombies, skeletons, and occasionally necromancers.

Of course they are all randomly generated and nonsensical and are just rooms tied together with a rough theme but they're still fun to go through.

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Has anyone else played the old 1.7.10 LOTR mod? It's one of my favorites, and I play it over any version of vanilla at this point.

 No.63467

>>63466
Oh man this brings me back. I would spend hours on this mod roleplaying with all the fictional scenarios I'd come up with whilst daydreaming about Tolkienist literature. I remember using the conquest feature and raising massive armies to conquer foreign lands and fortresses which was was arguably the most fun part about the mod. I haven't taken a look at it in years but from I remember the community was relatively active so I can only imagine that it's still receiving updates.



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 No.68295[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Book discussion. Tell us what you're reading.
Previous threads:
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>>60032
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 No.70342

>>70340
Are you going to be doing another wizchan reading? I would like to try and join in next time. I missed the canticle of leibowitz one

 No.70343

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30

The last monk, upon entering, paused in the lock. He stood in the open hatchway and took off his sandals. "Sic transit mundus," he murmured, looking back at the glow. He slapped the soles of his sandals together, beating the dirt out of them The glow was engulfing a third of the heavens. He scratched his beard, took one last look at the ocean, then stepped back and closed the hatch.

That's a suitable ending for a novel expressing cycle. Good point to wrap things up. Overall I enjoyed it. It didn't wowed me to be honest. The central idea, rise and fall of civilizations, is common currency in fiction. The first part is where it shines in my opinion, and then it was a slow descent towards the end. Still, pretty good, and it's a classic science fiction novel, definitely a must-read if you want to be well read in the genre.

>>70341
How did you like the novel?

>>70342
I wasn't planning to start another one right now, wiz. Maybe soon.

 No.70344

>>70343
>How did you like the novel?
It's the first novel I've read in a long time. There is more symbolism than I am used to but I seem to understand most of it. I think it may be a bit heavy handed with the moralizing but maybe back in 50s it was pushing new ideas. WW2 was still fresh in memory after all so people could appreciate anti war messaging more. This kind of non-partisan government-critical pacifism probably contributed to the hippie movement later. In any case, I think it was interesting.

 No.70439

Read The 400-Pound CEO. The only downside was that it was so short. What a brilliant thing. Other /r9k/ tier books like Whatever or Mars are more depressing, but really, they didn't speak to me like this one did.
It's not about wallowing in one's own misery, and it has some humor in it, but damn, I was really sad by the end. The main character is really pathetic, and it's crazy how Saunders aptly described such a kind of man. Maybe it was too on the nose in a few places, though.
I will read the rest of CivilWarLand collection now.

 No.70452

i didn't even check this board, what a fool i have been. so much wizzardry about reading for me to enjoy!

i made a thread about (ebook) reading and what a wonderful thing the modern e-ink display is. please come visit https://wizchan.org/lounge/res/323200.html

it is very pleasant to the eye and can be used in full sunshine. where i live they spray aluminium in the sky to block the sun as to make the people sick more so whenever there is a short moment of sun, i hurry and quickly grab the ereader and try to sit in it.


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 No.306649[Reply]

>19 at college, first year almost over
>When I was 16/17(i can't remember) i attempted suicide, but was too much of a dastard to follow through
>Did psychedelics a bunch over the past year and a half, deluded myself into thinking im fixed now
>Pure-O has been the worst aspect of my life by far

idk, maybe its just a bad day, but some days i wonder if my improvement is just a small hill in an overall downhill trend. I'm not any more organized, in shape, social, or nicer than i was before. I've been genuinely happy but do I deserve it? Have I just been distracting myself? I have crippling Pure-OCD so I really can't tell which thoughts are my own, maybe this whole post is a pure-o delusion. Or maybe it's not and i need to face the music.

I just wish i could stop thinking, pure-o makes you just constantly think up scenarios ad nauseum. I can't trust anything my brain says unless i stop everything i'm doing to stabilize myself and focus in on my thoughts and even then it doesnt always work. There are issues i deal with that i have no idea are even real or not. I have always perceived myself as moderately autistic to the point where atleast socially it makes life more difficult, but what if all of the symptoms are just overreactions and fear from pure o. There are days where i cant feel a god damned thing, it gets so numb and my vision goes blurry and i get dizzy and my memory starts cutting from scene to scene. I ask myself am i dead? I feel dead, i dont feel alive, this feels like some post mortum dream or purgatory, there isnt an ounce in my body in body that feels alive.

But is that Cotard's syndrome? I don't believe the sensations but they feel so uncannily real, its unbearable. How could I ever tell if its Cotard's or Pure-O obsessing over anhedonia? Does it even matter? Is me writing this whole rant just an ocd compulsion?

I don't know where im going with this, I was gonna talk about how I wanna kill myself again but idk, maybe cus i just took an edible and its starting to kick in or typing this out was cathartic but whatever. it doesn't matter

i just hope a communist revolution comes so i can throw away my life for something with meaning, i dont even care if i see the fruits of said revolution
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 No.306702

>>306649
>Pure O
>psychedelics binge
Holy shit thats relatable.
Pure OCD is as close to being in hell as possible. I am a bit better now but ocassional flare ups make me want to just kill myself (even more than usually).
I don't trust my brain. He is a nasty motherfucker. I can't engage in escapism because I am my own cage and my own brain is my jailer.
I have to endure constant barrage of mental imagery, of thoughts and sensations I despise. There is no escape even in dreams - they are often perverted by this insanity.

I am an acidhead. It helped back in the day, I lived for 6 month OCD free thanks to it. But now I am so fucked up nothing helps. I did acid recently and my OCD flared up at that time. It was pure suffering made manifest.
There is a limit to what we with our rotten brains can achieve. THe only self improving I do is trying to build muscles and eating properly. The rest should be let go. Or it will become just another theme for your OCD.

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>>306649
>Pure-O

i don't know what that is but i am twice your age and i played 2000 hours of factorio so i have figgured out some things.

the thing with your thoughts being loud i believe is something you can improve with meditation or even just more basic relaxation and breath exercises. tell me how your breathing is and i can imagine a bit better about you. is it shallow and short like half a second in, half a second out (or worse) because that's what i would expect.

if you ran your breathing at a lower and deeper frequency, the loud thoughts might subside on their own and if they don't you still have meditation, mindfulness and detaching from thought as things to try so i would like to encourage you that you have options. try them at your own convenience young sir, i don't think it will be a waste of your time.

regarding what you summarize with autism, you have been subjected to the fast paced modern internet from childhood, internet came to my house when i was 10 years old and it was brand new and slow and had no effect on my life whatsoever until i learned how to pirate with 16, which is where i found all the good stuff. you have been chain-watching interesting videos for years already i imagine. that means you have grown up with knowing what is possible beyond what anyone from my generation ever experienced.

you don't have attention deficit disorder, you don't have a reduced attentionspan, you are annoyed that a better life is possible and you are kept from experiencing it. to that i say don't be, it doesn't help when you are annoyed. instead get good at one thing: ceasing the day. making good use of your time. finding out how to spend your time wisely and start applying what the fast paced internet has shown you is possible, which requires you to set priorities.

WHAT IS MISSING FROM YOUR LIFE THE HARDEST? start there and manifest it quickly so that you can manifest all the other stuff you want.

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from brave ai:

>"Pure O" (purely obsessional OCD) is a term used to describe a form of obsessive-compulsive disorder where individuals experience intrusive, distressing thoughts, images, or urges but perform covert mental compulsions rather than visible physical rituals. Although the name suggests an absence of compulsions, people with this subtype engage in hidden mental acts such as rumination, mental checking, seeking internal reassurance, or silently repeating phrases to neutralize anxiety.


interesting i had never heard that. i guess the medical side of things would try to express this phenomenon in some way, though the more spiritual people have been aware of this since forever. they just call this unconsciousness.

there are purely spiritual approaches to this (not identifying with your thoughts and listening to the silence instead as a way to regain control over your attention against the habitual unconscious force).

if that is too far out for you, there is also the approach of famous psychologist Carl Jung. learning a few Jungian concepts and words could be useful to you because it would give you an intelligent frame on which to describe and question the phenomena. i am talking about jungian concepts like

>the shadow

>personality 1 and 2
>projection
>integration

jung says the way to get healthy in the head is to do "shadow work", to "integrate the shadow". that means finding out the things you don't know about yourself, the unconscious parts and learn about them or even just to see them or stop looking away from them. once you can clearly see them, they are no longer unconscious but consciously "integrated". is a fascinating deep, useful, life-affirming body of knowledge to dive into.

also, please enjoy this 20 year old meme pircture.

 No.306715

>>306712
>just integrate shadow bruh that will cure your intrusive thoughts and abominable compulsion cycles bruh
Pure O doesn't work this way. The moment you start DOING something for relief, it becomes a compulsion. Obsessions regarding it will arise quickly. 'What if I am not integrating it properly?', etc.
The real cure is to realize you don't have to do jack shit and just be with your thoughts and emotions. easy to say but it takes a shit load of suffering to get to this insight

 No.306716

>>306715
>just integrate shadow bruh that will cure your intrusive thoughts and abominable compulsion cycles bruh

just integrating? i guess you have no frame of reference for the emotional turmoil this usually includes. it is maddening, it is emotionally draining and what little i have seen about it reminded me of what is called exorcism. grownups having child-tantrums. uncontrollable crying, screaming, stomping on the floor, stuff like that.

>Pure O doesn't work this way. The moment you start DOING something for relief, it becomes a compulsion. Obsessions regarding it will arise quickly. 'What if I am not integrating it properly?', etc.


that's but modern language to describe an ancient phenomenon. what do the people who invented the language think the solution is? probably petroleum-based patent pending pharmaceutical products.

>The real cure is to realize you don't have to do jack shit and just be with your thoughts and emotions. easy to say but it takes a shit load of suffering to get to this insight


yeah you got it. when within something like a depression, the way out seems impossible but after the way out is found, it is literally just stop doing it as if it was as easy as the snap of a finger.



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 No.306675[Reply]

Lookism has become a public, popular topic lately on the internet and I believe that it affects wizards in very tangible ways.
Being a genetic dead end ugly loser myself I suffer for it even as a now "middle aged" man.
One would think such things are left behind in high school or something, but no.

You queue up for a service, government office for some paperwork, a cash register at a store, post office or hell even medical services.
You can tell the people before you were treated kindly. At worst processed in a neutral way.
Some even receive a cheerful response and the help they need, people go above and beyond for some.
Then it's your turn at the line.

A look of disdain follows immediately. Quiet. No "what can I help do for you" "what can I help you with" "what is the purpose of your visit".
Silence. Faces contort…
Sometimes a sigh, sometimes some snide remark. Clear hostility.

A shift in demeanor so noticeable, so obvious, so visceral… (yet to them likely natural) that even the thickest of autism wont help you stay oblivious to it.
You get mistreated, worse service, denied service you paid for, medical gaslighting, humiliation over and over again.
Networking is impossible for you, who by your mere acquaintance devalue their status.. and without connections, being treated like this, only having the "official route" as an option you soon realize you might not be able to get anything done.

After much pushing, repeated humiliations and humbling yourself, matching your demeanor to that expected of "your ilk" some old lady at the register might take pity and process your request, prescribe your medication, refer you to a proper doctor.
Sometimes the stars do align like that and you make a step towards a slightly less miserable state of being.

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 No.306704

>>306701
>That seems to be a common trend but look at how many of those people still engage in the exact mechanisms that will keep them forever trapped in that state, simply because they cannot imagine breaking out of the box and being different from their peers.

It's worse than that now; it's part of actual national strategy as the edges of knowledge based economies become more visible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG0OH4wiqKY

Goes into it in localised detail in South Korea; in summary, because your knowledge and skills can be replaced reasonably easily in a global market, or in the case of Korea the local market, then your personal appearance becomes a direct indicator of:
1. compliance
2. long term access to sufficient wealth, a short hand for "coming from a good family" indicating indirectly assessable value
3. situational awareness

And, explicitly, it's being driven by the Korean economic system, think the k-pop boybands - because Korea wanted to dislodge France from makeup market share dominance, and in America at least they have succeeded.

 No.306706

>>306704
That is interesting, I hadn't really thought about it that way. It's just another example of the many multipolar traps, the lose-lose games we keep playing on societal and global levels. Everyone knows that this kind of race is impossible to keep up long term, nobody wants to continue competing yet the fear of the consequences of non-compliance are too high to make most people do the rational thing - to drop out of the race. If everyone stopped, nobody would have to compete. But so long as even a single person is willing to continue playing (and there's always psycho- or sociopaths willing to do so), thus gaining advantages over the others who no longer engage in that behavior, nobody feels that they are able to drop out.

It is the same mechanism by which we continue to destroy the planet for economic gain, because the nations that aren't willing to do so will be dominated economically by those that do. Or how nobody wants to work 60h a week but if the only real consequence of you demanding a shorter work week is you getting fired, potentially ending up in a precarious situation and someone else taking your place, there is little to gain from dropping out. Or how a world with nuclear weapons capable of exterminating all life on earth is certainly worse than one without it but so long as one party has some, everyone needs them as a deterrent.

But I feel like among the increasing economic pressures there will be an increasing rift between younger generations - those who comply and those who simply aren't able to (seeing as most people would comply if they could). Perhaps this will lead to a sort of caste system, at least informally, where discrimination against the "uglies" is simply a given. Perhaps complete economic collapse is preferable.

 No.306708

>>306706
China is pretty much there already with that last one, the "lying flat generation" and community has had to be actively censored by the government.

 No.306709

>>306675
if you think ugliness is the root cause and not merely the most obvious symptom, you have not been digging enough. keep digging.

don't throw your hands in the air while cursing your genes and call it a day while your shovel still looks brand new and unused.

 No.306713

>>306704
This is extremely grim, but if you think about it in the context of this thread we could actually use this to our advantage.
If you have to hunt for jobs as a wizard you might want to look into the company and check out the workers beforehand and dress similarly to them for interview.

I did this for my first (and only) job without really thinking too much about it.
Looked up the interviewers they delegated prior to the process, saw he wore dress shirts with a knit sweater over it on his pictures and as luck would have it I had a similar set of clothes too.
I'm not saying it was the deciding factor, but it was better than to go with my usual attire.

For what it's worth I tend to get better healthcare when I put on a dress shirt with jeans instead of the usual random t-shirt with sweatpants and a hoodie and large comfy boots…
I really need to start internalizing this. Good points, good points for sure.
The issue is that the "normal" type of clothes are really uncomfortable for me. Jeans, dress panths, shirts etc. idk. I really don't like them.

>>306706
>yet the fear of the consequences of non-compliance are too high to make most people do the rational thing - to drop out of the race.
I mean, how? I would. I was NEET for a decade.
No longer an option. Drop out? Starve.
As you say they'll replace you with indians or muslims that then beat the crap out of you if you go to the local store…
Here they brought in hundreds of not-chinese asians for the factories too… They aren't violent at least.

>If everyone stopped, nobody would have to compete.

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 No.228060[Reply]

I'm in my 20s and I really want to change, not for society, for me and my fathers.
I see some NEETs in their 30s in this place, exists NEETs in their 40s?
I don't want to be a NEET for more time, but I want to know who is oldest NEET in Wizchan
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 No.228105

>>228060
>How old a NEET can be?
depends what your source of income is.
just because you are not in employment, education or training doesnt mean you cant have an income. so as long as you get gibs from the state, leech from your parents or have investments you can be a NEET and in theory you could be a 120yo NEET.
>exists NEETs in their 40s?
usually NEETs an hero or transition into hobos around that time as the income breaks away like parents dying or kicking you out, gibsmedat getting sanctioned or cut or dont exist, no savings and no inheritance.
>but I want to know who is oldest NEET in Wizchan
could be me

 No.228108

I'm 42, been NEET for 21 years leeching off my parents. Being a wageslave seems miserable tbh just based on how my relatives talk about their lives. Seems you either make good money, but work all the time and are stressed out, or you make shit, barely get by and are still stressed out.

 No.228109

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>>228100
>this wizard seems very powerful, i am scared

i guess i did pick up a few powers but simultaneously i am also very weak. i got good at not falling into traps by trying to anticipate the future and as the years went by i did become better at it, though occasionally you'd still see me pick the spiderwebbing i foolishly stumbled into off myself.

being a wizard i did learn a ton and steadily became stronger, which i believe every man would experience that isn't being used as cannon fodder for the female corruption.

instead of my power better worry about your own power though! and manifest what you believe to be worthwhile as the habit of creation with DIY attitude is the one that will improve all aspects of your life and the habit of being passive will deteriorate everything. my expectation would be that your primary battle is not being sucked into the screen.

 No.228111

>>228109
I wonder often about the back story of different posters on the site. imagine if each poster had like a pokemon style card for themselves, lmaooo. you sound like a kind wizard. god speed, anon.

 No.228115

The oldest NEET here is probably in his 70s. That's old enough to retire and live off of social security bux.



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 No.227929[Reply]

Norms, notions and behaviors they have that annoys you.

>Never argue with your critics or openly dismiss them

Their blood seems to almost always boil when you openly disagree or argue back against their point of view. They seems to just expect you to just nod along and agree(even if it's dishonestly).
Even if they deliverer their criticism rudely they expect you to still be polite with them.
Been told that snarky responses to people's criticism like
>I don't care go fix it yourself if you have a problem with it!
>Rich coming from an amateur like you, I like to see you do better!
>Who cares about what you have to say? Shove it up your ass!
>If you don't like it then do something else!
Will just ensure no one will bother to be honest with you, if they see you do something that is bad/wrong they will keep their mouth shut or lie saying you're doing great and hope you sabotage for yourself.
For a while I bought this. However, it just lead to people daring to be more rude with me. Eventually lead me to snap and revert to my old behavior. Then people started to choose their words more carefully when they talk to me.
Most of the time their criticism isn't even constructive, it's just them wanting you to cater to their preferences. So far this "antisocial" behavior haven't cause me any harm.
This is just some bollocks normies made up, because they don't like when people disagree or argues with them. They just want to be "right" without any push back.
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>>227941
sorry i spilled some of it in your thread accidentally. ironically, this is a normie behavior i hate. i'm such a bad person…

 No.227943

>>227933
They value only their perspective
"freedoom of my speech" Normies are very self centered. They blindly conceive themselves as the base of everything

 No.228112

>>227931
Churchill aka (((Spencer))) was truly a vile homosexual servant of jewish finance.

 No.228113

no no no no no not jews again not jews pleeeaaaaase

 No.228114

>>227929
Being very indirect.
If you want me to do something, please ask me to do it. I'm too retarded to read the psychic waves emanating from whatever you're doing with your face/body/tone.
And related, if some behavior of mine is bothering you, please let me know so I can choose what to do about it. Rather than using the perceived slight as a weapon later.



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 No.314827[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hitler's thread:
Paintings or things related to him or to national socialism.

- Painting of a castle.
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 No.323112

>>323109
schizos are gods
also try not to die in the (possibly) coming war with iran when jews carry out another false flag attack (just as they have done prior to the start of every major war for the last 100 years or longer).

 No.323124

>>323092
So I here just wanted to say I got done reading a book written in a foreign language dated from about 700 years ago which caused me to feel like I had been submerged backwards in time so that now when I am returned to the affairs of the modern day through contact with this website I am reborn in my mind at imagining what men from the late 1300s-1400s being restored to this earth would have thought at witnessing the current corrupted state of information and knowledge and politics and wars and species of belligerent tricks like fake pandemics and fiat money and false flag attacks and all the other lesser kindred classes of deception under which humanity has suffered owing to the fact that we have since become enslaved by venetian jews. It was quite the feeling I had; just imagine telling someone from 1350 that judeomasonic occultists will have by the year 1969 convinced the greater generality of mankind that they are moving around the sun on the surface of a sphere in outer space!! Who could have imagined this; not even the original mystical-oriented Pythagoreans could have been led into the trust of such a dreamworld attaining reality. Or that (((Venetians))) will have successfully captured all the earth and after having realized shared rule over all nations are now busied in the marketing of ghost plagues because in virtue of this stratagem they have learned they are able to get depopulating drugs into the bodies of the dumb goyim whose numbers they've nominated as an excessive slave class meriting only of suppression. Who would have believed that one group (judeo-venetian finance) would have risen to such a tier of rulership that they could orchestrate whole wars and fake pandemics between multiple nations mutually under their power and that they could do this repetitively one time after the other with total impunity for centuries on end! To view the condition of our current day (wherein all monarchies have fallen, all kingship has fallen, all true nationalism has fallen, all mercantilism has fallen, all financial legitimacy has fallen) from the imagined vantage of a man living in the early 1400s is to invite a state of total disbelief into one’s mind.

But again to resume the above argument: what has happened over the course of all these years? How did we deign the world to degenerate to this? A greek verse broke into my mind when thinkingPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.323231

>>323110
nukes are fake but jews controlling governments and playing the goyish nations against each other in eternal war games is not.

 No.323236

>>323124

where is the subscribe button, i can't find the subscribe button to this post, i can't believe i wasted this day when i could have instead contemplated this post for hours (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

 No.323257

what a strange time is ours that the pro-monarchists will have become the revolutionaries now.


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 No.319536[Reply]

I suffer from social anxiety IRL but I also feel little need to socialize.

I've always had 0 friends on Steam. Never been on Discord.
I always avoid joining guilds in MMOs. I turn down friend requests in other games. I have no online friends/contacts.

The only downside is that I am missing out on multiplayer games that require team coordination but I just can't stomach having to speak on a mic.
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 No.321489

>>319536
Yes.


I have no socweb accounts.


>The only downside is that I am missing out on multiplayer games that require team coordination but I just can't stomach having to speak on a mic.



trust me, you dont miss much
if you wont ruin the game, someone else will

 No.323244

I don't have any friends online nor in real life.

 No.323245

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>>323244
Death to all friendhaver normalfags

 No.323246

I don't have friends anymore. and I don't have friends online

 No.323256

i did this when i was younger a bit but in general people are not worth being around. in a world under such inferior hostile management everyone is just looking to profit off everyone around so realistically all you are missing is people trying to gain more from you then they give you. everything genuine human social interaction is perverted and everyone is just trampling each other trying to get others to agree to bad deals.

who knows if this ever get better and there might be a renaissance of humanity because the guilty can no longer avert their bad karma but clearly this isn't it.



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 No.306449[Reply]

What is the average wizard's relationship with religion like? No religious person has ever been able to give me a good argument for why God, if he is out there, is not the most maximally evil being in the universe simply by the virtue of creating suffering when he could have chosen not to. Saying "suffering builds character" and derivatives of is just a manifestation of their stockholm syndrome for this vile entity

>I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil. I YHWH do all these things - Isaiah 45:7
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 No.306669

>>306651
>I don't believe you are an ex-christian
Of course you don't
>le you were never really saved

 No.306674

>>306669
i nearly choked on the redpill when i realized that some people genuinely believe in rebirth and salvation.

 No.306692

>>306674
It's a mind virus. The issue is feeling like you need to be "saved" at all. No one is born feeling that way. they have to be told by religious people. Pure evil

 No.306693

>>306662
Common sense, but it breaks their minds. They will say anything to justify their belief no matter how nonsensical

 No.306694

>>306692
>No one is born feeling that way
not quite. they usually catch people when they are experiencing some significant hardships and somehow failure induces feelings of guilt and insecurity. the demons abuse it to convinces those poor people that they need to be saved by some dude who in all likelihood never even existed.



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 No.319696[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

this thread is for Hikikomori and N.E.E.Ts.
use this thread as an exchange between hiki and neet and share what you think is worth sharing.
here's a website that sell hikikomori themed magazine in japan. the website has some interviews of hiki around the world. if you'd like to check it, here's the link: https://www.hikipos.info/
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 No.322807

>getting 19,500$ in ssi backpay

 No.323175

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This is more of a /dep/ post hence I apologize in advance for that: I have been a Hiki/N.E.E.T for nearly 15 years by now and it in the past few years it has been getting unbearable, the boredom and monotony are agonizing, does not help that i have nothing to do and I don't have any money for hobbies at all, I might be dumb but I don't believe wageslaving would be worse than this, I feel like I am getting crazier by each day, sometimes I start punching walls just from the sheer unbearable borodom that I am facing, it makes every atom of my body boil, I am envious of all comfy and happy N.E.E.Ts out there, I have all the free time anyone could dream of, but totally nothing to do with it, I hope you all have it much better than me, thank you for reading and sorry again if it comes off as a whinny or negative post.

 No.323182

>>323175
Have you tried to make up imaginary characters in your head and let them debate over something? It takes a lot of effort to sustain those mind animations, it's really satisfying.

 No.323242

>>322679
I wonder what kind of people calls NEET/hiki 'parasite'? are they jealous of NEET and hiki or it's something else?

 No.323255

>>323175
>it has been getting unbearable, the boredom and monotony are agonizing
funny that you say this because wagecucking for a couple years has the same result.
shitty work becomes monotone, unbearable and agonizing and you are counting the seconds until you can go home. by the time you are indeed back home you notice you are too tired to do anything that requires effort so you doomscrool jewtube and play videogames for an hour and then its off to bed so you can wake up and spend another day counting down the minutes and seconds until you can go home.
yeah and money? forget about money, as a lowly wagecuck you are just as poor as a neet.


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 No.323200[Reply]

i have been missing out on this so much! i already wrote about it here https://wizchan.org/lounge/res/322725.html#323192 but the tldr is that i bought a used ebook reader with e-ink display for 35€ and it is amazing and i feel really dumb for not looking into this technology sooner and missing out on a decade of reading because i have been barely reading at all, the only thing that did work for me often was audiobooks so when i encountered a fascinating book i always hoped there was an audiobook version but these days are over.

would love to hear about the opinions, worries, thoughts, questions and reading experience of other wizards! what are you reading? what device you like to use? is there something you wish you found out sooner? any tips for beginners? please tell me because i genuinely would like to know. feels new and life-affirming to me. this has rekindled a fascination i first felt with books when i was still a child that i never quite lived it out because i didn't have good access to books and i was so busy numbing myself in playing super mario to forget the childprison so i do feel the genuine excitement about it! in a way using this device gives me the pleasant feels of early emulation days where i look for roms and then emulate them on the little device.
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 No.323250

PocketBook:

if kobo didn't exist i'd probably pick one of these. some of those have android, others use their own operating system. i like that they have a file explorer so i can navigate my files by their names and not by how good their meta-information has been completed in the epub file. they too ask for wifi and demand some kind of account being made but never giving it wifi is an option to use it as an offline device.

those apparently have headphone to listen to audiobooks, some even have speaker, on a device where i can install my own operating system i would like a speaker, on a device where i can not, i don't want it to have a speaker, because i once heard all speakers are also microphones, dunno how true that is.

 No.323251

remarkable:

those seem like the worst after amazon to me. they wanna force cloud on people hard, they can't even simply connect via usb, they use a web interface instead of just regular tried and tested usb mass storage. i just read it can be used without account and internet account which was a surprise since they expect you to be using companion apps and sheit. they seem annoying and data-collecty. apparently they act like they are free open source but don't make everything available. so i don't even respect them enough to look at their hardware specs.

 No.323252

Viwoods: "A newer Android-based brand offering AI-integrated devices"

big brother type shit, sounds so disgusting to me i wouldn't even want to see a picture of such a device.

 No.323253

Supernote:

they have 2 models which use some kind of old android without play store. too expensive. they are designed to be used with pens. i dunno, i'd never seriously consider a device at that price where i can't even put my own linux on.

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pine: this is the only silver lighting on the e-ink horizon. for some reason costs 600€ in the europe store currently while 400$ in the us. the company has wronged me already and did not give a fuck, which is too bad, otherwise i might have waited for this one and gave it a try. what bothers me is they have microphone built in but i am sure i would be able to remove them, the pine stuff is built to be accessed by the user, i assume it would be as easy as removing cables from the connector to get rid of it.



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>"No one owes you their kindness"
>"No one has to have a reason not to like you"
>"You're not entitled to friends"
>"Thinking people have to like you is narcissistic"

All said by people who haven't experienced a lifetime of rejection, social ostracization and involuntary isolation. All said by people who haven't tried every way possible to be likable, but their autism still showed through.

I hate when normies say shit like this, and their stupid "boundaries" of not "owing people shit" which translated is usually; I'm going to act terrible to anyone I see as less than myself in a way that makes me look righteous.
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 No.228044

I recently noticed that people are more honest about their hate of ugly people. Like, more than ever in recent history.
I don't know if it's TikTok and Instagram or what, but I see a lot of posts of people just hating uglies and being proud of it.
>People who are ugly on the inside are also ugly on the outside
>Being ugly is just nature's way to signal that this person is nasty
>Hating ugly people is natural!
And many other excuses. It's like we are back in 19th century when it was popular to analyze people's character based on their appearance. Like how an aquiline nose means strenght of character and other shit.
And it's also more popular to recommend people to get invasive procedures in order to "fit in better."
>You don't have to undergo a surgery to fit society's standards, but it's completely okay to have a surgery to reduce social friction
What's the difference though?
And many other ways to tell people they are ugly and disgusting and should fit in by reaching ridiculous standards of beauty.
And one might ask: is it worth it to integrate into a society so cruel it can ruin your life only because of a few mm of your bone? If you told aliens about a society like that, they'd advice to nuke it.
Truly, I would rather hang myself than fit in in a society like that.

 No.228045

>>228044
this society has always been like that. people were never meant to be larger than tribes

 No.228056

I kind of agree with this, I don't want to befriend normies, I don't like them, I hate what is known as narcissism. I only really care about other weirdos, non-normies and neuro-abberants.
I don't understand the bitching in this thread, do you want the normies to come here lol
I kind of suspect normies don't mean the literal meaning of these sayings, rather it is normie-speak for
"I am going to bully, humiliate, harras you"
which is typical inversion of the truth normie-style

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>>219201
>Unfortunately there's no solution to this.
I disagree.

 No.228107

>>225351
I have the right to kick a dog when he bites, will I be able to kick your face when you fail to behave humanely?


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 No.226190[Reply]

>Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you
>You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish

Is killing doctors who perform abortions morally justified?
Most people would say it's morally justified to shoot and kill someone else if they're about to stab a toddler in the back.
So if it's morally justified for a random person to shoot and kill someone else to prevent them from stabbing a toddler in the back why would it be immoral to kill an abortionist?
If you don't kill the abortionist they will kill a baby
>It's not an imminent threat
What is immenent? Sounds arbitrary. If an abortionist is driving to their workplace where they abort babies is that immenent? If an abortionist is in an abortion clinic in a room alone with a pregnant patient and is about to perform an abortion is that immenent? Is killing an abortionist who is a couple minutes or less away from performing an abortion on a healthy baby and consenting mother not morally justified?
>Abortions shouldn't be killed because it'll have externalities like making pro lifers look crazy which will cause more babies to die

Where's the evidence of this? Someone else could just say that the fact that anti abortion/pro life violence is so incredibly extremely rare is good evidence pro lifers don't consider abortion to be murder and pro life ideology should not be taken seriously. If abortionists were murdered more often more people might be more willing to take seriously the idea that abortion is truly murder.

Also this is utilitarian thinking which most pro lifers (especially religious ones) don't normally use in other circumstances but now choose to cherry pick when they'll use it? What about choosing to die rather than kiss a Quran? What about choosing to die instead of denouncing Jesus? What about spending ten thousand dollars on a vacation to the Caribbean instead of donating ten thousand dollars to against malaria foundation to save the life of at least one child under 5?
Pro lifers choose to be utilitarians all the sudden?

Another problem with this utilitarian line of thinking is I find it hard to believe both utilitarianism is true and God is real at the same time. If God is real and utilitarianism is true then why is there so much sufPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>226190
Christcucks thinking abortionists are more undeserving of life than non-European immigrants really tells you everything you need to know about them

 No.228092

i agree that abortion is horrible but one thing i never hear discussed is that being an unwanted child sucks. lots of people are genuinely too dumb and irresponsible to have children so even if you are a wanted child by dumb people, live is likely gonna suck for a long time until you can make your own decisions, at which point it is likely too late to have a nice life because bad habits are still installed.

imagine being born to dumb parents AND ON TOP OF THAT BEING UNWANTED. that's awful. abortion is horrible for a short while but being an unwanted child is horrible for a long time and drags down a lot of other people.

anti-abortion people to my knowledge never recognized this.

 No.228101

life is a mass murder machine

 No.228103

this thread should on lounge? it has nothing to do with wizards

 No.228104

>>228103
yeah agreed. but even so it still seems ridiculous to me. like, what the hell do i care about abortionists i am a wizard



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