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 No.306585[Reply]

I am not in a position to move out and I always have to listen to complaints about everything I do
Its affecting my happiness quite a bit, its a good day when I dont have to interact with anyone for a day
As if I dont know im a failure
The complaining never stops
I was a Neet I got cried to alot for that, now im a student and I still get talks about finding a part time job the same way, despite me getting money
Its so tiresome
I once worked full time for over a year, it was such a bad time to me, I dont have the energy like normies do
The worst part about it all is my mom telling me I should move out if I dont like it
I want to move out very badly, but how can I when the few hundred I get a month is barely enough to live?
Even with a part time job it would not be enough
I dont see the situation changing anytime soon

 No.306600

they complain because it works. they successfully got you to wageslave and unislave. some more complaining and they will get you to marry some succubus and shit out some grandchildren.

the trick is to actually just stop doing anything and endure their bullshit for a while until they realize it's not working and they leave you alone. become such a giant loser that they completely give up on you and they're ashamed to even talk about you to family (that's how you get out of social gatherings as well).

 No.306621

I had awful parents, they "complained" about everything and when I gave in and tried to adapt myself to them they would complain more, gaslight, change their story etc. Eventually I realised their goal was simply to torment and I broke off all contact. You might consider they are'nt being serious and just want to bully you, I've also heard of other people having similar parents to often calling them narcissists.

 No.306811

>>306621
thats the truth, there's always a new dragon to chase. I was NEET after highschool. got nagged into studying which gave me 1 week of peace, then nagged to finding a job which i couldn't even find for over a year which was horrible times. anyway once i get a job its again peace for another week. then it's when am i doing more hours and/or getting promoted.

Majorly insane I hate it so much. I've since anchored myself down in my routine of over 10 years now. I work 4 days, dont go out, dont do a lot of things and the nagging has finally stoped aside from once every 6 months about how i should really try get married LOL.

stupid parents should have had 3 or 4 kids. you can't play 1 game of poker and get mad you didn't win, play a few more then call it a night/life if it all failed.



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 No.306409[Reply]

A lot of people on here, me included struggle with community, relationships with people, family, in general.
Many also describe horrid childhood experiences, neglectful or overprotective parents, abuse, bullying and the like.

I too had my fair share of misery, lack of love, despite best efforts from my mother. (Yet maybe I didn't reciprocate/feel such, despite observing the effort.)
This made me wonder, what do I even expect out of people?
What would an ideal family life look like?
What would feeling loved feel like? (However ridiculous that sounds.) What actions would need to be taken by who for me to feel such a thing?
What do I actually expect from a "friend"? How do I want them to feel about me, to interact with me? How should I engage with people in general?
What boundaries should be set?
I feel like with friendships I often gave my entire being or idk. like I usually had 1 very close friend and nobody else, of course they had multiple friends, always.
I just can't handle many people at once, I struggle with shallow relations because navigating such is beyond me.

I honestly don't know.
I feel like I've had some magical expectations about relationships (I use this word, but this doesn't mean succs or sexual) that simply don't seem to manifest.
Maybe things weren't that bad, maybe I'm just broken in some way.
I just don't know what I would want a good parent to be either. Maybe someone I can confide in regardless of the issue, someone who would have helped me navigate the world?
Someone to teach me to be a person?
I don't know. I often lament my childhood, my lack of development, the lack of warmth, the dread of fearing for my life each night, but realistically this might just have been me.
I mean, my parents also had horrid childhoods themselves so maybe this is just what it's like.

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>>306488
>though in my case this attitude was more of a defense mechanism of sorts.
In what sense? I can understand the insecurity part (never really had to struggle much for anything in life myself) but I'm not sure what you're referring to exactly.

>Nothing necessarily wrong about it.

I don't believe that these kinds of jobs or the people working at them are any lesser or that they're inherently humiliating. Sorry if I came off like that. It's more so my parents' reaction that scares me and how I would feel humiliated every time I have to interact with them or any other relative. They certainly have higher expectations for me… and that's what frightens me the most. It's them who'd find it (and subsequently me) pathetic.

>Maybe you'll be able to make some progress too if you stick around. It really doesn't take a lot to make life livable if you aren't in some absolute abject poverty in the third world.

You might be right. And I'm almost positive that I wouldn't be going homeless since even my parents aren't that heartless. My biggest concern is the initial reaction I'll have to face when/if I tell them the truth. Did you feel any sense of ease after you came clear to your mother? Was it like a mental weight had been lifted from you or did the shame and fear for the future drown any comfort that might have come with it?

>I wouldn't consider myself a complete lost cause, it doesn't feel like you are one either.

To my understanding, it seems like you were able to move on from the event with relative success (as much as one can achieve in this situation anyways) so I definitely wouldn't consider you too far gone. As for me, suicide is just the easier option. Sure, I would prefer to stay alive rather than to die an early death but it's not as if I have anything major to look forward to that gives me the strength I need to carry on. And the "you can always kill yourself, tomorrow" idea only really works if one's life is comfortable enough to justify it (Something that I've been recently lacking). There's something greatly ironic about fucking up your life and then making a swift escape just as the walls start to close in. There's a quite sort of rebellion in it.

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>>306512
>Oh and sorry for derailing your thread.
No worries, I was confused about the purpose of it while making it anyways and it seem we are still on a related topic. I'm just using sage so it doesn't get bumped over and over annoying others as most of my responses were very blogpost like.

>In what sense?

I was very self-aware (or self-conscious might be better phrase) as a kid. I knew my situation wasn't normal. I knew I wasn't normal. I knew I was lacking in a lot of ways.
It was also made extremely clear to me that people figuring out what's happening at home is going to end poorly in many gruesome ways.
This meant I never wanted to show weakness and I developed dumb behavior patterns.
I ended up becoming a compulsive liar at school and arrogant despite being of meager abilities with no social status as an outcast.

I'd be standoffish and make remarks despite it resulting in beatings or stronger bullying.
Even if I ended up breaking down and crying or whatever I'd still be talking in ways that would attempt to dismiss others and prop myself up the next day.
Gloat over others with every achievement that I didn't really earn, I was simply naturally better at some things than others while also dismissing every topic or thing others were better than me at.

Now this wasn't my default state. I made good honest attempts at making friends and went to great lengths to fit in.
But again, I was different, people could sense it and I was rejected time and time again.
Everywhere.
Changing schools, moving places I tried to reset, but never managed to. Rejection always came eventually and I'd fall back into old habits to safeguard my soul.

>defense mechanism

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 No.306521

>>306512
Part 2 because it ended up being way too long, but I already typed it so might as well…

>It's more so my parents' reaction that scares me and how I would feel humiliated every time I have to interact with them or any other relative. They certainly have higher expectations for me… and that's what frightens me the most. It's them who'd find it (and subsequently me) pathetic.

I had this too and I don't really know how to deal with since again it's highly personal to you.
I'd say it's a good mindset to have that this isn't necessarily a personal failure on your end. It's as much their failure as yours if not more.
They'll be the ones who have to confront this, they'll have to deal with it and move on. Or so it would be in a sane world, but I understand normies would rather blame you and get you out of their sight.
>It's them who'd find it (and subsequently me) pathetic.
That is for them to deal with, more so than it is for you. You can't really affect how they'll process things too much. If they care enough, they will look past this and look towards helping you forge a future in spite of such a setback.
I say this, but I understand. It's not that simple and full of uncertainty.

In some ways I made this thread asking this too. To what extent should one place expectations on others?
To what extent does one have to care about the feelings of the parent/sibling/friend compared to the feelings of their own?
Even the manga/story referenced had moments like this. The child made some great strides and swallowed plenty of pain to move things along and close the chasms between them and the parent.
A wizard replied giving me a reality check that that isn't realistic at all.
>>The MC powered through and things worked out, but that was because the other parties involved also cared.
You can do whatever on your end. You can have your thoughts consume your soul. You can work yourself to the bone, but if the other parties don't care you'll never move the needle.
So do what you can and hope that they will do so too.

>My biggest concern is the initial reaction I'll have to face when/if I tell them the truth.

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>>306519
I'm sorry to hear about your past. It goes to show that life really is just a game of chance, and you seemed to have drawn a bad hand. I wonder if you could request neetbux for childhood trauma or something similar? I've never tried getting neetbux myself so I'm not sure what is or isn't allowed. Regardless, your failings seem to be much more justified than mine. I'm not saying that your mother forgave you just because of your past but it's certainly possible that it impacted her decision. Meanwhile, I don't have any past woes my parents could turn to and blame my failure of a life on. That seems to be a fairly major difference between us. Although I will say that it is admirable that you managed to overcome your past attitude, many people who experience this kind of trauma merely continue to perpetuate the cycle of abuse (if they do not kill themselves).

>>306521
>They'll be the ones who have to confront this, they'll have to deal with it and move on. Or so it would be in a sane world, but I understand normies would rather blame you and get you out of their sight.
If I had to imagine a hypothetical scenario where this would take place they would likely constantly remind me of how I failed at everything and that I'm "wasting my life" (As if there's a good use of one's life in this world). I've made some terrible mistakes in the past but this is really a whole new level of fucking up. I can't see a world where they would eventually move past it without it becoming ingrained in their minds as a sort of turning point in our relationship. Does your mother ever reference it these days?

>If you think your parents wouldn't kick you out or disown you I believe getting this out there as soon and as cleanly, clearly as possible will yield the best result.

I'm mostly positive that I wouldn't get kicked out but the mental aspect is what is gnawing at me every day. I know that they will look at me a with a certain disdain and embarrassment even long after everything has transpired. It feels like I won't be the same person to them anymore, as if my image will change overnight. My personality is generally antithetical to both of my parents. They're the typical uncouth normalfags who pressurePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.306810

I was gaslit by EVERYONE into thinking I was going to be extremely successful in life, I was told the only thing that matters is me shutting up and doing my school work. None of it mattered, the kids who failed classes and skipped school to do weed all became rich. It's literally all about how much of a normie people pleaser you can become, nothing matters if im a weird creepy male



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 No.306726[Reply]

I have a horrible mother who criticises me just as much when I do something good as when I do something wrong. I remember having a lot of traumatic experiences with her, and even today she’s still the same. For example, I started being more hygienic and washing my hands before eating, and she started using that habit as a weapon against me. She also criticises me for not going out with my ‘friends’, but when I do leave the house, she keeps insulting me Any advice on how to get free from her? makes me unhappy
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>>306738
>She simply doesn't like you. Move out.
I can’t move out on my own just yet, but I can go and live with my dad because my parents are divorced. I love my dad very much; he’s a good person and helps me with my problems. My mum is always criticising him for not having a steady job, but he’s an honest worker.

 No.306790

>>306783
>I can’t move out on my own just yet
I think you can and you should give it a shot while you still have the safety net of both parents.
>my parents are divorced
>posted alongside sad_breakcore_tranny_drug_meido_discordreaction.png
Hehe

 No.306791

>>306790
I am not him but this junkie anime wench existed long before trooncore

 No.306795

>>306791
OP here, I'm not a crab

 No.306809

Normies, especially succubi just love to complain. I bet your mother has nothing of substance going on in her life either, if she was happy and had hobbies she wouldn't be so up your ass. nagging and bitching is a popular female hobby



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 No.323200[Reply]

i have been missing out on this so much! i already wrote about it here https://wizchan.org/lounge/res/322725.html#323192 but the tldr is that i bought a used ebook reader with e-ink display for 35€ and it is amazing and i feel really dumb for not looking into this technology sooner and missing out on a decade of reading because i have been barely reading at all, the only thing that did work for me often was audiobooks so when i encountered a fascinating book i always hoped there was an audiobook version but these days are over.

would love to hear about the opinions, worries, thoughts, questions and reading experience of other wizards! what are you reading? what device you like to use? is there something you wish you found out sooner? any tips for beginners? please tell me because i genuinely would like to know. feels new and life-affirming to me. this has rekindled a fascination i first felt with books when i was still a child that i never quite lived it out because i didn't have good access to books and i was so busy numbing myself in playing super mario to forget the childprison so i do feel the genuine excitement about it! in a way using this device gives me the pleasant feels of early emulation days where i look for roms and then emulate them on the little device.
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 No.323251

remarkable:

those seem like the worst after amazon to me. they wanna force cloud on people hard, they can't even simply connect via usb, they use a web interface instead of just regular tried and tested usb mass storage. i just read it can be used without account and internet account which was a surprise since they expect you to be using companion apps and sheit. they seem annoying and data-collecty. apparently they act like they are free open source but don't make everything available. so i don't even respect them enough to look at their hardware specs.

 No.323252

Viwoods: "A newer Android-based brand offering AI-integrated devices"

big brother type shit, sounds so disgusting to me i wouldn't even want to see a picture of such a device.

 No.323253

Supernote:

they have 2 models which use some kind of old android without play store. too expensive. they are designed to be used with pens. i dunno, i'd never seriously consider a device at that price where i can't even put my own linux on.

 No.323254

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pine: this is the only silver lighting on the e-ink horizon. for some reason costs 600€ in the europe store currently while 400$ in the us. the company has wronged me already and did not give a fuck, which is too bad, otherwise i might have waited for this one and gave it a try. what bothers me is they have microphone built in but i am sure i would be able to remove them, the pine stuff is built to be accessed by the user, i assume it would be as easy as removing cables from the connector to get rid of it.

 No.323277

Any good ereaders around 8" that have long battery and SD cards?
Would like to load some manga on there too not just books.



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 No.306545[Reply]

I am not even that horny, a lot of the days I force my self to do it while not even being in the mood for it, it's just the most effective way for me to cope, masturbation is free, gives you instant pleasure and can burn for you many hours at the time, there are times when i find my self touching myself just so I can use it as a way to distract my self for my anxieties and negative thought loops, as soon as i start touching myself all my anxiety and negative emotions start to dissolve as much as i hate and it hate how much i overdo it, i can't deny it makes getting through my days easier when i can just touch my self for many hours instead of just sitting there being miserable feeling hollow bored to tears and empty or anxious and overthinking at worse, my point here is that I believe the addiction for me is a mere sympotom, something I use to escape my negative feelings and the emptiness of my daily life, thanks for reading my blogpost
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 No.306803

>>306802
Indeed. I think she was my first waifu.
Man I hated how the show focused on suzumiya.

 No.306804

Another downside to gooning is the slippery slope question, I don't know how many of you here relate but I found myself getting into certain digusting taboo kinks that I can't help but enjoy, eventually you get burned out from vanilla stuff and start to seek new kinks that feel refreshing and exciting, may God have mercy on my soul.

 No.306805

>>306804
Yeah same.
Though I reckon I was already broken to begin with due to child abuse or maybe its the autism.
I recall already jerking my dick as a brat before I could even cum or get an erection in absurd ways like using coke bottles suction and shit like that during bath and much else…

>disgusting taboo kinks

To me it was extreme violence / guro stuff that was the first "slip". The recent AI gen (not lifelike/real) lolicon stuff on sankaku and other boorus was what broke me in a sense that I started being disgusted with myself.

I'll be real and say that the worst part of it all after all this agonizing about it, I had to come to terms with the fact that I have no intention of really quitting.
I would have otherwise no?
I don't want to say I view myself as a monster, but it's pretty fucking close.
Never really thought about 3DPD in any sense ever so at least that is a saving grace. Find real succubi rather disgusting too…
I hate that this topic is even such a large part of "me" as well that it needs so much contemplation.
For a normal person jerking off and pornographic material really isn't more than a moments thought.

 No.306806

>>306804
this happened to me, started gooning at around 10 years old and quickly grew out of it and started watching hentai, then later on trans porn and rape reenactment then i discovered telegram and started consuming zoo stuff, then a couple paraphilias i rather not mention then the kid stuff and hurt core and many other things. i really got desensitized to seeing a naked succubus, its like nothing to me, its so boring and bland.

 No.306807

>>306806
Try audio porn.
Many nice voiceworks out there to enjoy even if you don't know japanese.
There are decent english ones I think as well. ASMR types.
Kept listening to these as background noise so now I'm desensitized to that too a bit.



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 No.228149[Reply]

To those wizards that have managed to stay as NEET for extended periods of time; do you have any advice for an apprentice? I know I can outright refuse, but to do so would generate ill will and hostility, things that I would obviously like to avoid. For the last six months I have been making an effort to help with tasks around the house such as mowing the lawn, vacuuming the house and sometimes cooking dinner. It seems this way I am not viewed as completely useless. Any further tips, life experiences or suggestions are welcome.

 No.228151

there's not much you can do, it all depends on the particular psychology of your parents. you can try to minimize your footprint, contribute to the household, make yourself invisible to avoid triggering angry outbursts, but at the end of the day, none of that matters if they just decide they don't want you there. milk it as long as you can, but it will eventually end and you should think about an exit strategy (in my case it's suicide).

if you have socially conscious parents i.e. normalfags, they care a lot about how they're perceived and their kids are basically an extension of their self-image, so they will pressure you a lot to get out and have a job and all the other normalfag milestones. even though practically cost nothing and you aren't demanding or a hassle, the fact that you are a stain on their self-image is enough of a motivator for them to fuck with you. every time some friend or family member asks them about how you're doing, they're experiencing humiliation and it lowers their perceived status. at some point, kicking you out becomes a way of saving face and they can practically disown you so you no longer make them look bad.

i guess if you're stuck with such parents, you have to give them a way out, an explanation of why you're just sitting at home instead of hustling and bustling with all the other normies. sometimes you can use the "mental illness" card, your parents might be able to garner sympathy for having a sick son rather than a good-for-nothing loser. doesn't work if they don't believe in psychiatry and also most of the time forces you to take psychoactive medication that can have side-effect, plus regular visits to some form of mental health practioner. of course, this doesn't last forever, since at some point they start asking when will you be fixed, but you can buy yourself a couple years with this. another one is online university or some such program, since they can "he's focusing on his studying". the point is to help them save face somehow.



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 No.228142[Reply]

im 18 and the sex is a idea that make me feel disgusting. I don´t have relation with succubus. I think that the sex is a form of engage with the word.
And while more i think i can see that my life is a fucking disaster for be thinking about have sex and be with a succubus all day.
But i dont want humilieate me and be some desesperated. also im ugly shitskin and low iq and social skills (coomer to)
in deep of my heart i believe that lose my virginity will make me happy, that a succubus listen my problems, and scare me the idea that while more times goes on the succubi have more experience and i stuck in back.
I know a contradiction. My point is that i wanna be alone and be happy alone.i dont wanna be part of that twisted system and circle what life is, but my wish chase me.
What recomendation give me? above all the wizard more olders. I think go to a psychiathrist to give me pills and practice some sport, but i dont wanna go to gym because i hate thats machines touch by all world and are many sucubus dresses like whore.
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 No.228144

>>228143
how i do it? every itme when i have sexual desires or wish of jerk off i see 2D and i only forced me think in 2d.
Make me audios to hypnotized me saying that 3D is shit and i dont need sex.
How???

 No.228146

>>228142
>deep of my heart i believe that lose my virginity will make me happy, that a succubus listen my problems

Go back to /r9k/

 No.228147

>im 18 and the sex is
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 No.228148

sex is how society keeps you tethered. some young men dream of being independent from society and not participating in the "sick system" but alas, your biology has different ideas. you're doomed to live in this conflicted miserable state until you either kill yourself or integrate into society.

sexual urges are one thing, but there is also the built in mechanism that keeps the "score" and every humiliation, every putdown, every loss gets recorded and adjusts your mood, health, it determines how much your brain produces serotonin. you're tied to the "dominance hierarchy" whether you want to or not. opting out just means continual loss until your brain forces you to do some drastically violent or self-destruct in suicide.

there is no way, no solution, we're doomed as individuals with higher awareness. you could try going off into the mountains completely alone, maybe the physical distance from the sickness of society could be the answer but idk, never tried it.

 No.228150

i saw this pic in lainchan



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 No.306157[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.
ice cold edition
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 No.306792

emotionally significant experiences just stop happening so you kinda live reliving those few cool things from back when you were a happier neet.

 No.306793

>>306792
Damn, so concise yet so painful…

 No.306794

>>306157
i wish the pain ttanslated to death, i wish i didnt exist at all

 No.306800

Do you notice how other adults talk really loudly? I'm just sitting outside reading a book in silence and these neighbours talking you can hear I. The whole far neighbourhood. As if everyone should hear that they are there and if it was so important what they are talking about that everyone shall hear it. This is so detrimental to anything I've learned it's comical.

 No.306801

>>306800
It's because most "adult" conversation is just each bastard waiting their turn to spout their own nonsense.
Since they have no desire to actually listen they are impatient.
An increase in volume is a normie way to subtly dominate the conversation, extend their turn. It is also usually done when they interject and "take over the turn".
So interrupt the other, be loud, signal that you now will talk at them at length.

Normies do this without thinking about it. It's second nature.
So they often repeat and if both of them are oblivious dumbfucks they will keep increasing their volume.
Add to that that each of them loves their own voice for some reason and you have this as a result.
It isn't for you to hear, these godforsaken mongrels are just that damn ignorant.


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 No.302844[Reply]

And say something about it if you want. I'm scared of my dad so I'm drawing a monster (him?)
I didn't know we could draw. Why isn't this done more often?
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 No.306761

>>306508
i like the drawing style

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 No.306784

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I'm tired and angry

 No.306797

>>306773
wow this is dope



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 No.306675[Reply]

Lookism has become a public, popular topic lately on the internet and I believe that it affects wizards in very tangible ways.
Being a genetic dead end ugly loser myself I suffer for it even as a now "middle aged" man.
One would think such things are left behind in high school or something, but no.

You queue up for a service, government office for some paperwork, a cash register at a store, post office or hell even medical services.
You can tell the people before you were treated kindly. At worst processed in a neutral way.
Some even receive a cheerful response and the help they need, people go above and beyond for some.
Then it's your turn at the line.

A look of disdain follows immediately. Quiet. No "what can I help do for you" "what can I help you with" "what is the purpose of your visit".
Silence. Faces contort…
Sometimes a sigh, sometimes some snide remark. Clear hostility.

A shift in demeanor so noticeable, so obvious, so visceral… (yet to them likely natural) that even the thickest of autism wont help you stay oblivious to it.
You get mistreated, worse service, denied service you paid for, medical gaslighting, humiliation over and over again.
Networking is impossible for you, who by your mere acquaintance devalue their status.. and without connections, being treated like this, only having the "official route" as an option you soon realize you might not be able to get anything done.

After much pushing, repeated humiliations and humbling yourself, matching your demeanor to that expected of "your ilk" some old lady at the register might take pity and process your request, prescribe your medication, refer you to a proper doctor.
Sometimes the stars do align like that and you make a step towards a slightly less miserable state of being.

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>>306785
>>Therapy, ideally, is much more than that. But you are referring to client oriented therapy which is indeed is quite popular and boils down to the therapist just listening to the client's emotional diarrhea and nodding wisely.

If that's what therapy is in USA then no fucking wonder shit's gone to shit.

If the practice of psychological intervention, lifestyle management, *unfucking fucked up perspectives* is held in contempt and billed as a pacifier, then sure - fuck that. That's not what i'm talking about.

>>Let's not throw the trauma word around.

I can and I will. Trauma is "Beaten unconscious and your food stolen at the age of 6." Trauma is "Lost a limb due to the collapse of the only living space you've ever experienced." Hell, trauma is "Being assaulted in a hospital bed by a mentally disturbed man." That was real, that happened, it fucked people over and maladjusted them in competition with the folks who *didn't* have to subject themselves or the children they raised to the warped value structure that no longer meshed with either the world that was bombed to fuck, or the one that was built in the ruins.

And tying back to the original point of the thread, facial reconstruction in ww2 (and ww1 for that matter) was motivated in a big way from the awareness at the time that folks who had been so disfigured couldn't adapt to normal civilian life, because combat technology could maim and disfigure visibly but not kill, something genuinely new.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Gillies is the relevant starting point.

>>Like it or not, we are still hunter-gatherers biologically, and our brains are wired to that life. The life of violence, scarcity and hardship. It's a modern invention that our lives should be violence and cruelty free. We all endure a certain amount of hardships, and yes, some people develop reactions to it, but who is to say that those reactions are pathological?


Your landlord and your employer or equivalent persons who determine how much of the fenced in farmed over foraging ground you are allowed to benefit from.

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 No.306787

>>306786
Okay, I'm sold. Can you tell me more about how you ysed CBT to your benefit?
I tried it myself with a workbook, even posted about it here, but it wasn't all that much successful for me since I hit roadblocks even starting with BA.
I like the concept of BA and here where the cognitive part rears its head.
Basically,
>I should take a shower for mastery points
>Wait, why should I take a shower, I'm disgusting one way or another
Basically, my rumination prevents me from starting acting. I don't know what to do first: behavioural or cognitive changes.
That's where a therapist should be helpful, but as I've mentioned…
>If that's what therapy is in USA then no fucking wonder shit's gone to shit.
That's what it basically is in my country, but I'm not from the US. It's a bunch of succubi having a mid life crisis and jumping into therapy to earn a quick buck. Most of them just complete a basic course on some BS and just provide the venting type of therapy. I know because I tried eight times, from trainees to supposedly the best there is. Ironically, only that green trainee yielded some results, and yes, we did CBT. But I don't want to contact her again for various reasons.
>If the practice of psychological intervention, lifestyle management, *unfucking fucked up perspectives* is held in contempt and billed as a pacifier, then sure - fuck that. That's not what i'm talking about.
Exactly! But those are hard to come by, isn't it?
Anyway, going back to my question. What did you do? Have you did CBT with ChatGPT or a real therapist? I don't have the means to try a real therapist though. I guess even budgeting to find one would be bad for my mental, since funneling all my money into a therapist would make me unhappy since I will end up broke in the process. And no, getting a free therapist is not an option where I'm from. Or, well, it's an option only for veterans and other certain groups of people.

 No.306788

Holy derailed…

 No.306789

>>306787
>>Okay, I'm sold. Can you tell me more about how you ysed CBT to your benefit?

I went in thinking "oh this is what it's like on TV, I just have to talk about my feelings" and what I *got* was a 20 page work book with a checklist of cause & effect and an event tracker diary to determine what went wrong, when and why. First session was essentially the therapist telling me the scope of the project, the type of interventions that they could provide or refer and the explicit end goal.

First step was identifying the root cause of the Catastrophising habit I had, which is "Things are shit, I am shit, anything I do is shit, why try" which, largely was because I had lived in abnormal (statistically significantly so) adverse situations. The therapist back then did a basic assessment of what I did, why I responded to specific problems the way I did, and we eventually built up a literal checklist and decision tree that I still refer to from time to time that stops the habitual fear/endure and shut down response into "Think calmly, assess using the tools you have developed, respond accordingly". That took about 10 weeks of conscious practice to get to that point, but it got me out of bed and into an upper quartile wagie lifestyle which I know for sure i'd never even attempt, never mind achieve in my old configuration.

>>Basically, my rumination prevents me from starting acting. I don't know what to do first: behavioural or cognitive changes.


Of all things it was the Pickle Rick therapist in Rick and Morty that gave me an answer that's stuck for years:

"I have no doubt that you would be bored senseless by therapy, the same way I'm bored when I brush my teeth and wipe my ass. Because the thing about repairing, maintaining, and cleaning is it's not an adventure. There's no way to do it so wrong you might die. It's just work. And the bottom line is, some people are okay going to work, and some people well, some people would rather die."

So the question I suggest _you_ answer is, do you hate *maintenance*, or do you actually and genuinely hate *work*.

If it's the later, I'd expect 2:1 odds that it's because outside context problems have demonstrated to you - either rationally or subconsciously - that the fruits of your work can be taken Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.306796

i *am* handsome! ;_;



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 No.227827[Reply]

This is a thread to discuss God and religion. One I didn't see created.

What are your thoughts and views on God, if any?

My relationship with Him is complicated, as I used to be Christian but have far strayed and no longer worship Him to a certain extent.
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 No.227880

I am of the opinion that that even if some "creative" (even this word comes charged with far too many human connotations) force exists in the universe that might resemble our notion of a God exists, it is not possible for us to have any meaningful understanding of it. Our situation as conscious entities in this existence is just so extraordinarily bizarre and nonsensical that it seems the height of hubris to suggest that you might possess unique knowledge regarding reality. To use a poor analogy, it would be like expecting a tiny screw or piece of metal within a computer to be able to understand its position and function within the broader whole of the computer. Relative to our perspective you can zoom in with a microscope and observe swarms of bacteria in everything, writhing around and reproducing, given the vastness of the universe from our vantage point it seems completely plausible that in a way we are no different from those bacteria. From the perspective of a large enough spectator there would not be any meaningful difference at all. Our planet may a singular molecule in a churning ocean of a larger plane of existence, which in turn may prove to but another molecule in the grander chain of reality. I understand this statement is somewhat ironic given I am here communicating my position on the world. Here I am positing my own absurd metaphysical propositions that are of course myopic and false. That's why I default back to "We don't know".

 No.227881

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>>227880
Im sorry. Couldn't actually feel you…

 No.227882

>>227881
I'm not sure what you mean.

 No.228139

>>227827
i cant think about the god´s idea

 No.228145

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>>227827
>What are your thoughts and views on God, if any?
Not very favorable in general due to how the world operates.
I still "pray" to God every now and then, mostly out of desperation, but my prayers are like that you'd have towards a wish fulfilling entity.
I could never quite understand Christian prayer, even as a kid.
It felt like you were talking to a tyrant acting like a good little serf so you can avoid wrath and get some scraps.
"Thy kingdom come and thy will be done." or something, not sure how it actually translates to the English variant.
I talked back to the priest holding bible class often enough to get banned.
(Mostly because I also attended a random Catholic bible study for a while in parallel, nobody checked if I belonged and I was too stupid to know the difference so I just went along with the other priest too lol.)
Never got confirmed either.

Generally speaking I prefer religions where there aren't any claims that are obviously false, tied to real mundane history etc.
So something like taoism I guess.
The more philosophical or fantastical and less human/mundane the better.

To some people Jesus being "some dude" while also somehow God s a point of connection, but to me it's a huge disconnect.
Why should I, person born 30 years ago be subject to tribal nonsense from a far-gone era of some carpenter that was then used as form of control, embraced by politicians at the time for such purposes.
Very weird to me.

Not to sound all fedora atheist here, I know it was in vogue back in the days online. I just dislike how so much of Christianity has been demystified and a lot of stuff has been traced back historically.
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 No.4744[Reply]

Wizards, please share and discuss classical music in this thread. Hopefully some of the wonderful contributors from the previous thread are still around.
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 No.10656

>>10101
lo, apparently I was gaslit by multiple listenings. I pitch-shifted it two years ago and it sounded like garbage. I think he was just a second-rate Max Reger (who in turn is a second-rate Bruckner) who realized he could permute certain musical elements and blend them with chaotic nonsense to convey a sense of profundity.

 No.10676

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0mvRf7dvO0

Anyone got anything similar to this or Claire De Lune

 No.10894

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12 of the same notes for midnight

 No.10896

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yZEkjrD5Qc

Exceptional track that doesn't really get attention, from 2:00 onwards especially.

 No.10908

I like Cherubini. Supposedly Beethoven once said he was the best composer.



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 No.228138[Reply]

Stepped on the scale today and realized that despite the initial "push" from a medical crisis a year ago, I basically regained all weight I lost (minus 5-10kg).
I also realized I've been working for almost 3 years now, going to be 30 the same week I'll hit my 3 years of work too.
3 years… of wages wasted.

I don't even know what the fuck I spent most of it on. It just escapes me.
Still live with mom and all my necessities are taken care of she takes nothing from me.
I had a blessed opportunity these past 3 years to save up for the dogshit future that hit the world now and I wasted it on toys and basically indulging all I couldn't as a NEET with no money.
The worst is that since I'm an impulsive retard I mostly have nothing to show for it either.

Health is even more fucked then ever before since I never took action.
Rather every action that didn't prove fruitful or flat out failed resulted in my absolute surrender for another month or three or six…
Absolutely defeated at the starting line basically.

To get to the point of this thread. Those of you that live a decently structured, responsible and stable life, how?
I barely have a sense of time. Kinda like when I was a NEET, just instead of 12-16 hours of sleeping and then PC stuff I'm forced to work a rather easy, blessed job.
Once it passes I just feel like I'm teleported to the next shift until I get to sleep through a weekend and months pass.
Even chronic pains don't make me act much. What does one even do to live?

The worst part really is that so many years went down the drain and I really have nothing to show for it. Not even memories.
I want to at least look back on SOMETHING fondly when I'm dying someday.
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 No.321660[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

PALESTINE OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED AS A STATE OR WHATEVER. U.N RECOGNIZES THE INVASION OF THIRD-WORLDERS UPON EUROPE. YOUTUBE ANNOUNCED IT WILL BE RE-INSTATING CHANNELS BANNED BY BIDEN'S ORDERS DURING COVID AND 2024 ELECTIONS. ANTIFA DECLARED A TERRORIST SECT. ISRAEL "ONLY NATION CAPABLE" OF PLANTING CELLULAR MASS-DISRUPTION DEVICES OUTSIDE OF UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY. TIKTOK TREND SHOWS PREGNANT SUCCUBI DOWNING THERAPEUTIC LEVELS OF TYLENOL IN PROTEST OF ANNOUNCEMENT THAT DOING SO CAUSES AUTISM IN CHILDREN

Previous thread: https://archive.is/JfDla
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 No.323159

>>323158
Things are going to (be made) so much more expensive (on purpose by people who believe a bunch of sandniggers killing eachother will make it easy to get away with jacking up prices).

 No.323161

>>323159
Bro one fifth of the oil in the world is gone now. Oil drilling facilities also got hit and will take time to be rebuilt even if the strait reopened.

 No.323272

>>323158
At least you got to own the libs though right?

 No.323273

>>323161
Two fifths of the world's remaining oil is located outside of the desert but Liberals won't drill in to it over fake environmental concerns. They made us dependent on a bunch of goatfuckers and then bombed those goatfuckers.

 No.323276

>>323273
Well tell Trump that oil is high and to start investing in offshore oil because I want my offshore oil stocks to go up


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 No.321588[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

No politics or religion in the crawl thread, please.

>Ambient sounds to wash away distraction

https://asoftmurmur.com/
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 No.323259

>>323220
>The actual metaphysical idea of predetermined vs spontaneous events doesn't really contradict human decision-making or effort
Humans are not some special woo-woo, we're made of the same matter that composes the universe. Therefore if the universe is deterministic all our choices are pre-determined.
Consciousness is an artifact of the brain that develops reality from neural inputs and our choices are neural outputs processed by this machine.
The idea that we somehow get to decide our choices in some magical way is completely wrong.

 No.323265

>>323220
It is all just a movie for God.

 No.323266

>Predeterminism is real if you go by my personal definition of that word

 No.323267

ghosted everyone again

 No.323269

>>323267
Now haunt them through a sockpuppet account


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 No.228060[Reply]

I'm in my 20s and I really want to change, not for society, for me and my fathers.
I see some NEETs in their 30s in this place, exists NEETs in their 40s?
I don't want to be a NEET for more time, but I want to know who is oldest NEET in Wizchan
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 No.228115

The oldest NEET here is probably in his 70s. That's old enough to retire and live off of social security bux.

 No.228132

How do I get autismbux? Not OP. Sorry if wrong thread.

 No.228134

As long as you can generate sufficient passive income.

 No.228135

>>228132
hospitalizations

 No.228136

>>228132
i had a psychotic break down and they diagnosed me as schizophrenic, but to tell you the truth i think it was a one time deal. but no one believes me. they make me take anti psychotics, and thank god there is no major side effects. buti also get SSI now

pretty sure you have to be mentally or physically ill to get the bux



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 No.68877[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

All you need to begin drawing is a pencil and some paper

Feel free to post any drawings of yours in this thread. Illustration, doodle, traditional, digital - anything goes. Discussion on skillbuilding techniques and fair critique of other wizards' work is welcome.

Videos:

Tyler Edlin - https://www.youtube.com/user/TylerE2284
Proko - https://www.youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Sinix - https://www.youtube.com/user/sinixdesign
Scott Robertson - https://www.youtube.com/user/scottrobertsondesign
Matt Kohr (CtrlPaint) - https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library
Aaron Blaise - https://www.youtube.com/user/AaronBlaiseArt
Vilpu (Anatomy) - https://mega.nz/folder/9Pw1lYaS#Me7LSwlSg59lNGmkj9tt4w/folder/lPoXEYxS

Poses/Gestures
QuickPoses -https://www.quickposes.com/en
PoseSpace -https://www.posespace.com/posetool/default.aspx
https://x6ud.github.io/#/ Animal Head Reference Finder
https://anatomy360.info/anatomy-scan-reference-dump/

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 No.70458

>>70457
You are doing great job!
I would suggest to not press the pencil so hard against the paper. Your lines are too thick and I can see smudges where you erased the lines. Ideally, it shouldn't happen.
You should hold the pencil lightly and not press too hard. It should glide against the paper, only barely touching it and your movements need to be fluid. I can imagine you making small, hactic movements with your wrist and basically grinding the pencil against the paper.
Before studying anatomy, try drawing circles, elipsed or random shapes but draw with your your whole arm starting with the elbow, not the wrist. Let your pencil glide on the paper and don't press to hard.
But I see you are doing great job, your art is very soulful and I like the design. Please post more in the future.

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>>70443
I maybe be a fucking scumbag cheater piece of shit, a literal cancer on everything artistic, but I just either use 3d models in CSP or already drawn hands/stamps as basis. If it is 3d model, I first trace hands fluidly so they aren't stiff. Because I am tired to see the grubby paws instead of delicate hands and I am too lazy to grind them for 1452355345 times like some gook motherfucker who has been drawing for 18 hours everyday nonstop for years.

 No.70460

>>70459
>models in CSP
what does that stand for?

 No.70461

>>70458
also how hard is too draw without the wrist?

 No.70462

>>70460
Clip Studio Paint


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 No.53707[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This is a thread for sharing free game deals you find on the Internet.

Currently Control is free on the epic games store.
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The free demo for Half Sword is available on steam. I downloaded it today and it's actually pretty fun. It's a medieval tourney simulator more or less, with a lot of weapons, armor, and different match variants. The demo has both a 'gauntlet mode' where you progress through the ranks, or a free play mode where you pick what rank of armor/weapons you want to play with and just enter matches freely. There are no horses or ranged weapons (unless you want to throw your weapon) and there's no online in the demo in case you were curious about that. As far as the gameplay goes it's a bit chaotic and whacky at times, but I that's part of the fun for me personally. Controlling your weapon can be tricky, so I would recommend turning down the mouse sensitivity, pretty much at minimum. Also, depending on your hardware you may need to run 'Low' graphics but it's still decently optimized for what it is I guess. Certainly worth a try if your into medieval combat.

 No.63473

House Flipper 1 is free to keep if you claim it on Steam before the 6th

 No.63474

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https://autobioarchitech.itch.io/headsrest

Played only a bit, but it was good.

It's a surreal rug maker game sorta, like Gingivia.

Also, it is obscure as hell. Practically no one knows about it.

 No.63476

>>63474
Dude thank you!

 No.63477

>>63476
no problem


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/games/

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 No.59447[Reply]

Almost every single game that I played in 2023 was a game made in Japan. Mainly JRPGs. Now I can't barely play western games, which I found dull and ugly.

when Japan became the best game developer?
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 No.62024

>>62022
where to find the indie japanese games anyway? I want to see what kind of game they do make

 No.62025

>>62024
I haven't looked too much into the Japanese indie scene but for example here's a Japanese website for "free games" https://www.freem.ne.jp/
Admittedly most of it seems to be more like RPG Maker kind of stuff though.

 No.62026

>>62025
indeed. thnk you

 No.63463

>>59447
>western games, which I found dull and ugly
Japanese studios are often allowed more creative freedom than their western counterparts. Western devs for whatever reason care about public perception and what groups like PEGI thinks.
>we can't have attractive npcs in our games, the PEGI will raise the age rating!
>we can't make a game about the battle of Fallujah, war vets feel offended by it!
They gave a childish game like Skyrim an age rating of 18+. war vets don't give a flying fuck if they offend you, so you shouldn't give a flying fuck if you offend them.
Freedom of expression is a thing, what are they going to do? Sue you for making attractive 3d-models and basing a game on a recent war?

 No.63475

My favorite real game, SMT IV (I don't like Apocalypse) is indeed Japanese.
Katawa Shoujo is also my favorite game , if you count VN's as real games, but it is unclear where it is from if development was even concentrated in one country.
I feel like Japan is unmatched in gaming compared to every other country, so many genres, innovations and cultural aspects.



/lounge/

 No.323017[Reply]

Recently I feel like the large corporations that run everything have really been dropping the ball. The end user experience for shopping at walmart of Amazon or wherever used to be almost flawless and you could understand how they got to be practical oligopolies. Today though? The experience is so amazingly shit. You can tell none of these corporations gives a shit about the day to day. They have some apps managing everything and they just punish the slaves when some app tells them to. It is such a lazy form of decay.


Anyone else noticing this? Almost across the board in every realm of life it seems like the system is more full of bugs and random failures. Everything works just barely well enough to still keep functioning but at the same time it's decaying and degrading. I think there's not enough actual competition anymore in society. All the power structures are set and all the lowest worms in society have wriggled their way to the top of them.
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 No.323230

>>323226
Then I'd rather have some kind of Assistance in Living, but realistically MAiD is more likely to come around.

 No.323261

>>323226
>It's a program designed to kill people instead of curing their ailments
Things don't get better and if you try, some talking head will discredit you.

Just pass MAiD and things will begin to start to get better… maybe.

 No.323263

>>323261
It's funny, the bootlicking rightists all wish that we "undesirables" would just fuck off and die, yet make it illegal for the state to help us do so painlessly

 No.323264

>>323263
>rightist
True right has never been in power since like Third Reich and even they weren't as right as they could be.
If you mean zionist gop jewlicking scum under the, they need their taxpaying goyim of all kinds to be alive and suffering.

 No.323268

I think the worst is the food. Buy a brown bread without checking the label and you get this greasy 7 percent seed oils loaf, which gives me acid reflux. Some supermarkets where I live don't even sell real bread anymore. The very basics of life become inaccessible with this race to the bottom



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