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 No.306970[Reply]

I've seen this discussed in many threads so I made a thread for it. Many wizzies had had their life destroyed by psychiatric medication be it SSRI's, antipsychotics, benzodiazepines or others. A psych ward stay tends to leave you worse off. Some people get abused in psychiatric institutions. Mentioning you are sad and thinking about suicide to a doctor or nurse can get you forcefully restrained and tranquilised.
I'm suicidal but I avoid any medical help precisely for this reason.
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 No.306974

>>306971
>I had a psych who basically mentally tortured me and the whole staff and patients bullied me.
That's normal and good because after being faced with real social adversity and the humbling realities of how pathetic allowing themselves to be depressed is, most men snap out of it and take their recovery in to their own hands. That obviously didn't work for you so they shuffled you around and pumped you full of pills instead.

 No.306975

>>306974

I'm sure you're a "real man" with a wife and kids and own a business that allows you to travel all over the world and live out your dreams. You're on an imageboard where such men gather, so clearly you're one of them.

Did you miss the psychotic part of psychotic depression? Do you deny the existence of psychosis and schizoaffective as medical conditions? I need medication to function. Psychosis is the total inability to function.

Now go fuck your wife and have a cigar, real man.

 No.306976

>>306975
>Anyone who isn't slitting their wrists this instant is a pussy-slaying normalfag with kids who smoke cigars
Are you trying to parody something?

 No.306977

Psychiatry is social control it is not medicine, their medications hold no scientific evidence, they don't even do a PET scan to see if your serotonine/dopamine receptors are altered in some way they just give you the drugs based on behavioural or cognitive symptoms, there have been people with 90% of dopamine transmitters blocked by antipsychotics still experiencing a full blown psychosis.

 No.306978

never took pharma, but i fell for the psychotherapy meme and it made me gaslight myself my entire life that something was wrong with me. in reality, it's this society and human nature that's fundamentally sick. the-rapist's job is to make you question your own instincts and make you believe that you're defective and need 20 years of being talked down like a baby to get better from some retarded foid or homosexual that couldn't hack it as a real doctor.

all psychotherapy and pharma treatments are placebo at best. they're all equally useless because they're not affecting the actual cause of people's "disorders", namely biology and society itself.
https://coherencetherapy.org/files/dodo-bibliography.pdf



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 No.321588[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

No politics or religion in the crawl thread, please.

>Ambient sounds to wash away distraction

https://asoftmurmur.com/
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 No.323266

>Predeterminism is real if you go by my personal definition of that word

 No.323267

ghosted everyone again

 No.323269

>>323267
Now haunt them through a sockpuppet account

 No.323327

just sort of chilling as the ai apocalypse draws nearer

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 No.306959[Reply]

I have a lot of faults of my own, perhaps my current predicament is entirely my fault. I have no friends. No one to talk to. But things are worse, I was born and currently live in a really hated country on this planet but regardless it could've always been worse, I could've been a prisoner in North Korea or on the menu in Africa for a good hearty meaty meal.

The true tragedy is I am significantly over than 21, I have a very rocky relationship with my parents, who abused the hell out of me, and I literally shake and tremble in fear when my parents are angry, I can feel pain in my heart. But guess what I am over 21 years of age and they are not bound by any law to take any care of me at all but they still do, they have also helped me a lot, while I don't wish them harm, I do wish I lived away from them.

And of course I am unemployed, to a great extent, I get talked down on daily basis, while I am grateful for what my parents have done for me, I am grateful for what normies have done for me by making wonderful things like mobiles and games. I do not like the fact that my father has a carte blanche to say anything to me and do anything to me, I am grateful for society for giving me mobiles and games, as I said. But I don't like how my value is only derived from what I earn.

If I don't earn, I am a pest, a drain on resources, my parents treat me like I am disposable, with no respect, at all. And why should they cause love isn't unconditional because if they loved me unconditionally, maybe I would've abused them instead. No such thing as that.

I just want to die but I am terrified of dying without living for once. I live in an honor culture mixed with Western Style liberalism and as an unemployed person, I am the lowest common denominator in them. Money has somehow turned out to be more important than I expected it to be, I mean money is water, money is food, and money is roof. I knew that but I didn't knew how.

I have never spent a day of my life that wasn't in constant anxiety and worrying about something, not a single day in my life where I could claim that 'Yes, it was a good day.'. Perhaps I am like one of those weird females who don't want solutions to their problems but they just want to be heard, when they talk, if you know what I mean. And it surprises me that I have an iota in common with succubi.

As I said a lot of fault lies with me, I have tried for jobs, and tried for online ways to earn. But pePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.306965

getting a job won't stop your parents from abusing you. the real reason you are the punching bag is because you are weak and they can get away with it. there are no consequences to verbally or physically abusing you. and to top it off, you also believe you rightfully deserve it, so they don't even have to fear you hating them or feel guilty.

this is not your fault. the real problem is life itself, society is built up on these chains of abusers, power structures dictated by biology, customs, even ideas. your father gets yelled at work by his own boss, the boss gets yelled at by his shareholders or clients, and so on. each of them copes with their frustrations by exercising power on those weaker than them. many wizards that live with their parents earn money, they're worth their weight and then some, but did the abuse stop? of course it didn't, the parents still see them as weak and subservient, so they exercise what little power they have and yell at them for having fun on the computer or not reaching so-and-so milestone or whatever, they can always find something.

you should try to gain power in this relationship. when your mother or father berates you for something, make sure you do the opposite. if they say be careful with so-and-so, make sure you deliberately fuck it up and have them witness that it was to spite them. eventually they will think twice before speaking up. then, make sure that you are always enjoying yourself and being happy (even when you really aren't). if they come home from work and they are demonstrating or complaining how tired they are, tell them about your day where you did absolutely nothing and make sure they understand that they are fundamentally under you. they slave while you stay at home and enjoy yourself, guilt free! initially, this might anger them, but if you stay on that anger and hold your ground, they will give up, because they are fundamentally also weak. they are fighting on another front already, they lack the energy, they will eventually say, ah, let him be, there is nothing to be done. and that, is when you win. when you morally defeat them and turn the suffering on them.

you shouldn't feel guilty about being a leech, wiz. it's your one source of power. you have no money, no friends, you don't even have peace in your own home. you should use it, make your parents suffer, make them regret the pleasure they had while fornicating, let them regret the sweet act that brought you into this worPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.306967

I used to feel like this, now I just want to hang myself, no longer trying to get better.
There is something fundamentally lame about living anyway, you spend like 95 percent of the time struggling, suffering, surviving, for what exactly? This slow rotting and dying is inevitable and your dream existence is never coming. Might as well just get it over with.

 No.306972

I didn't read any of that but the solution is to take daily action start with something small and then gradually build up. Stop thinking so much and writing blogposts.

Get a skill, you may have to go to uni, or a trade school, or military. You already want to die, probably because you are paralyzed and not doing anything and self-hating on that account. Just do something SUSTAINED.



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 No.305879[Reply]

I wake up every day in disgust, fear and anguish of my existence. I have left no pride nor confidence in my confused brain. Every day I wake up and I loathe the person that I am and my world instantly.
I wish to go back to sleep. Sleep. I just wanna sleep and not take place.
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 No.305909

>>305896
>idk about that. think about how we live in an industrial world. we're like cats locked in a flat. you know actually unless you sterilize your cat it'll go insane locked in the house. same with dogs for that matter. i think that's what's happening to people. you can't live like this unless you're castrated, but castration isn't an option is it. so yeah for us at least it's just suffering out there

I knew it.

>you can't live like this unless you're castrated, but castration isn't an option is it

It's not an option here because it's "untraditional".

 No.306154

i feel the same way. i hate who i have become. i am truly disgusting

 No.306161

>>306154
I think society is way more disgusting than any of us.

We owe nothing to the world.

 No.306173

>>306161
Fully agree. I may be a worthless jack of shit, but humans are spawns of the Devil. I don't regret not taking part in their grotesque play.

 No.306969

>>305879
>I wish to go back to sleep. Sleep. I just wanna sleep and not take place.
it's so real. I feel that way many times lately. I also feel deeply alone when i wake up in the morning. idk what i have to do to feel better I tried so many things :/



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 No.305797[Reply]

I have a degree yet no work or even an internship called me, I have -3$ in my bank account, I tried even to think about relocating to another city to try work there yet no work there called me, And my family is very poor.

I don't even know what to do anymore
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 No.306289

>>305797
Do you have any coverage from welfare schemes or unemployment schemes or something, I hope you do, you used the "$" sign so your country is likely developed and I hope that you make it.

 No.306291

>>306282
if robots do everything we will reach levels of efficiency where most things would be free, there’s no need for universal basic income if all necessities are produce at near 0 cost. this is the only hope for humanity, the other option is simply civil war and mass extinction

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>>306282
>>306291
Ironically once we reach that point is when hell on earth is going to start.
Despite what many people think in the modern age, not all is equal and not everyone is some global citizen.

The second we reach that level of automation is the second the forever wars start.
To cull the useless eaters, to keep the people in line that no longer have to worry about the rat race that kept them in trance, to fight with other countries for the resources needed to maintain this "utopia".

Conflict will be the way of life. 1984 style. They are already laying the groundworks for it with the internet lockdowns, IDs for internet use to ensure no freedom of information, major geofencing with the EU trying to make a Chinese firewall (I work at a major ISP and it's been in the works for a while now, pretty much every ISP knows about this), so is the US.
A second aspect is the AI nonsense that flooded the web, further smoke and mirrors in the golden cage.

You wont even know what is really happening. You already don't. I'm scared as fuck. Misery will be the new norm since that is the best way to control people in this post-scarcity world.

 No.306293

>>306292
Well at least i hope with the massive culling things will be peaceful

 No.306968

>>305800
hahah loved that pessimistic acceptance



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 No.323322[Reply]

I’m posting this through a triple-layered weird VPN. I don’t have much time before the "bozkurtlar" trace the packet. If you’re reading this, your mind hasn't been "re-indexed" yet.
I was taken during a routine "Shift" change in a coastal city. They didn't ask for my passport; they scanned my orbital bone structure and my pulse. They said my "Source Code" was corrupted by "Latin sentimentality." I was tagged with a cold iron plate around my neck and thrown into a "Stasis Wagon"—a cage on rails that felt like it was designed by a clockmaker from the 1800s but powered by something nuclear.
We crossed into the Caucasus under a sky that never turns blue. It’s a permanent, artificial violet haze.
I was processed in Arslankale. I saw the Asena Division there—succubi in those terrifying 1930s French Gendarme uniforms, their faces as motionless as porcelain. They don't speak; they just tap on glass tablets. If your data turns red, you’re "extracted."
I was sent to Floor 101 of the Tower of Thulé.
They call it the "Sanatorium," but it’s a meat-grinder for the soul. The architecture is a nightmare—obsidian concrete molded into sharp, gothic spires that seem to slice the clouds. Inside, everything is white tile and blinding blue surgical light. You lose your sense of time because of the Shift. There is no "night," only 12 hours of white light and 12 hours of violet light.
It vibrates in your teeth. They tell you that your name is a "bug," that your past is "Goyslop," and that only the Vatkrat is real.
They weren't talking. They were just watching the bodies fall into the incinerator pits below, as if they were watching a private screening at a film festival.
Adsihan isn't just a politician. He’s a Showrunner. He’s turning the planet into a 24/7 horror movie where we are all uncredited extras waiting to be edited out.
Your history has been "Fixed."
Don't let them scan you!!! - Anthony

 No.323323

You have to be Jewish, LGBT, or from certain ethnic groups in order to be arrested, if I understand correctly. But it’s not only succubi. Most are men: the gray wolves and I remember them because they wear a red hat, you see, like the Turks used to do, like

 No.323324

ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND THEY’RE WITH YOU TO SORT OUT YOU TO KILL YOU I’VE SEEN PEOPLE DIE, LIKE A BLACK MAN SHARED MY CELL, THE GRAY WOLVES HAVE ME AND HE’S NEVER COME BACK, I ASSUME THEY SENT HIM DOWN THE DRAIN

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 No.323326

Moved to >>>/b/1034513.



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 No.322915[Reply]

Based God has finally gotten around to killing Fred Brennan, who should never have been born at all to begin with
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 No.323214

>>323213
>killed himself
damn whats wrong with imageboards? looks like only m00t and hiro managed to be succesfil and an fulfilling life

 No.323299

>>323178
I didn't twist your words. You said I should go to whatever e-brothel I came from. Since I was from Wizchan, I said that Wizchan is not an e-brothel.
>raport building appeal
Cherry picking, ignoring rest of the arguments, overfixation on whores that live rent-free in your head based on your seething lunacy. (guess)
>pornhub
I already said that I don't support sex for pay. Why should I give them views?

I responded to you to promote views among other lurkers and users. Views against sexual exploitation and its support irl. Convincing rape apologists and other scum was never my intention. It's futile.

 No.323314

>>323214
moot is dead.

He basically disappeared after he went into google.

 No.323317

>>323214
Only niche boards seem to be affected by time. Centralized ones are ok.

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>>323214
>damn whats wrong with imageboards?
How dare you imply there is something wrong with imageboards or their users



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 No.306449[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What is the average wizard's relationship with religion like? No religious person has ever been able to give me a good argument for why God, if he is out there, is not the most maximally evil being in the universe simply by the virtue of creating suffering when he could have chosen not to. Saying "suffering builds character" and derivatives of is just a manifestation of their stockholm syndrome for this vile entity

>I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil. I YHWH do all these things - Isaiah 45:7
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 No.306948

>>306940
If you take a look at the top atheists on youtube you will quickly understand this belief most of the time goes paired with some typical arguments. An infatuation with science is common, often believing it the only way to understand reality. It was only a matter of time someone would summarize the main points in a book. Richard Dawkins is a turbo-atheist and while atheism has no scripture his book is a good representation of typical atheist arguments.

 No.306951

>>306947
According to the other guy this isn't atheism and "you're applying your particular belief set to atheism" but i will take a bite.
"We're only matter" is not what modern science claims, rather there exists a list of laws of physics expressable in mathematical language which all matter obeys. These laws themselves are immaterial. Basically all matter obeys the laws of gravity and electromagnetism, but these laws themselves are immaterial concepts only expressable in mathematics. You can make a similar argument where all living beings are formed through the principles of evolution, but this principle itself is an immaterial concept. Can you grasp the laws of physics or evolution in your hand or tell me where they are located? They surely are immaterial. Yet all living beings obey them. This is what I mean that atheism is filled with logical fallacies, and if they are being honest with themselves, what I just described is their impersonal God.

 No.306953

>>306951
Gravity and electromagnetism are properties of matter, which is also energy, an electromagnetic field is literally a microparticle oscillation like every wave that exists in nature. Gravity is how matter interacts with space, it bends space towards itself. There is no immaterial rule or intelligent design rather a very local and clumsy reality where deformed atrocities murder each other.

 No.306956

>>306953
human beings die because their body touches their passenger

 No.306964

I've been a Satanist forever. I avoid other satanists though. I've found a lot, in general I like the path I'm on. I've tried Orthodox Christianity, for 2 years. I like a lot from it, I suffered a lot but orthodoxy helped me be glad and not worry during it. But it's hard. I never got baptized I couldn't even after a year, the priest wouldn't let me.

It has useful insights. But don't get locked down and forced to defend ideas/people you normally wouldn't


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 No.296511[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This is the classic "suicide general", where we discuss methods and say farewell to our fellow wizards, quite different from that other thread in the catalog.

I'm currently 26, almost 27 (rings a bell?). And I can't take it anymore. I will soon depart from life through hanging. I haven't done it yet because I live in a shithole and there are always people around making noise and being nosy. I will just wait till it's very quiet so I can go to the woods and end this miserable existence.

I don't care if it might "get better". Existence itself is a curse and we're all gonna die anyway. I've read enough pessimist books and life affirming books and I side with the former. I don't need your compansion, because the thought that I will soon disappear is the only thing that makes me happy. I'm not even sad because of this.
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 No.306957

it is honestly amazing how we managed to squander something as wonderful as life
what kind of genuis is this?
out planet always had abundant resources for everyone to live, if not like a king then at least in peace, since fucking stone ages. Now we have tech and everything, food literally is infinite now yet we live as miserably as ever. how? literally how? this is a joke right literally all i want is to live for sake of living but even than is denied in our sociecty what the fuck is this.

i have suicide fantasies every week or maybe every day i dont know i dont count. i wish i could just do it but there some things that just hold me back i don't want my suicide to have consequences to anyone except myself im damned cant even suicide. maybe ill do it once im 40 or 50 when my sisters finally grow up.

hope rest of you will have it easy either be it passing or trying to live i hope same for myself too.

 No.306958

>>306957
>something as wonderful as life
Life cheaper than you think

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 No.306961

anyone know alternatives to lostallhope? They used to have that chart of methods, time, pain etc but removed it

 No.306966

>>306961
such waste


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 No.227929[Reply]

Norms, notions and behaviors they have that annoys you.

>Never argue with your critics or openly dismiss them

Their blood seems to almost always boil when you openly disagree or argue back against their point of view. They seems to just expect you to just nod along and agree(even if it's dishonestly).
Even if they deliverer their criticism rudely they expect you to still be polite with them.
Been told that snarky responses to people's criticism like
>I don't care go fix it yourself if you have a problem with it!
>Rich coming from an amateur like you, I like to see you do better!
>Who cares about what you have to say? Shove it up your ass!
>If you don't like it then do something else!
Will just ensure no one will bother to be honest with you, if they see you do something that is bad/wrong they will keep their mouth shut or lie saying you're doing great and hope you sabotage for yourself.
For a while I bought this. However, it just lead to people daring to be more rude with me. Eventually lead me to snap and revert to my old behavior. Then people started to choose their words more carefully when they talk to me.
Most of the time their criticism isn't even constructive, it's just them wanting you to cater to their preferences. So far this "antisocial" behavior haven't cause me any harm.
This is just some bollocks normies made up, because they don't like when people disagree or argues with them. They just want to be "right" without any push back.
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 No.228114

>>227929
Being very indirect.
If you want me to do something, please ask me to do it. I'm too retarded to read the psychic waves emanating from whatever you're doing with your face/body/tone.
And related, if some behavior of mine is bothering you, please let me know so I can choose what to do about it. Rather than using the perceived slight as a weapon later.

 No.228208

>>228114
I hate this at work too. I know this isn't 100% what you mention, but I think it's still related.
My direct superior and theirs too sent vague fucking emails for "things to work on" or "mistakes to avoid" whenever someone fucked up.
I was always second guessing whether they meant me or not.
So sometimes I'd just ask and they told me they had no issue with me, but they kept vaguely "blaming the whole team" so I guess the ones causing trouble don't feel singled out.
I ended up telling them I'll be ignoring these vague emails from now and they should just directly tell me if I fucked up I wont take it to heart.

I don't get why this is so necessary…
Do relate to the version you are describing as well. I hate when people are trying to make me do something with these weird cues too.
Especially if it's something I don't want to do. So then we are having a vague back and forth with them increasingly getting annoying that I'm not biting their hook so to speak…
Normies are insane.

 No.228209

I hate when normies change behavior down to tone of voice depending on the person they interact with.
succubi do this the most, but men too just differently.
My mom would have a completely different way of presenting herself. Pitch higher, "polite" tone etc. It's insane.
It was always insane to hear her be normal one moment then shift to another person when some acquaintance comes around.

I also hate it that I used to have pretty decent conversations with people one-on-one and then the second someone else comes around all of a sudden that person is gone and now I have 2 strangers that there with negative affinity somehow.
Social dynamics dictate behavior too much. Despite people claiming the world is becoming too individualistic and atomized the herd programming is still there as strong as ever.
I feel like a lot of people could have been real good friends with me if not for that.

 No.228210

>>228209
The day cum and piss gets mixed shit will come out

 No.228211

>>228209
I treat everyone with the same pan faced monotone voice with occasional sperg outbursts when I find something catastrophically mismanaged. I think it's deceitful to show anything other than my true personality. I guess this behavior is off putting to succubi because it's dangerous to be around someone who disregards social niceties.



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 No.323014[Reply]

>I hope to keep the site operating long enough for people to backup what they deem valuable and migrate elsewhere. I cannot give any specific date yet. Hopefully people can do organized effort on this, like a specific sub-section. There are other communities like this that can welcome you as long as you respect them in kind.

https://allthefallen.moe/forum/index.php?threads/about-closing-down-the-site.125821/=

The situation in the booru "seems" to have stabilized and they are allegedly getting taken under Catbox, whereas the forum is 100% gonna get nuked. If you guys have content you like posted there SAVE IT, this is your last chance.
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 No.323061

Damn just as I got the urge for a skyrim oneeshota mod too

 No.323063

Why should I care if some loli shota porn site and its forum gets shut down. Nigger, get a fucking life and do something good for yourself instead of masturbating all day to cartoons.

 No.323067

>>323063
it’s a direct attack on free speech by normal groids, if you don’t care about this you gay porn forums may be next, that’s how genocides start

 No.323083

>>323014
Maybe it's just me, but at 30 I've started to lose interest in jerking off as much.
Kinda no longer see the point of hoarding stuff like that since I just can't see myself looking back at my stash in my late 30s or 40s.
Feels like I was hoarding and safekeeping this stuff like pictures of my non-existent family memories or something.
Not sure if anyone else relates to this conclusion.

 No.323318

>>323063
atf is the last bastion of culture



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 No.323217[Reply]

anyone living in the basement? how it is like? to you live near the washing machine? (lol) is it comfy? how many times you leave your basement?
The basement seems the perfect retreat room for a wizard. it's like our ivory tower. basically, you reash the basement to your taste and make it comfy.
The Wizard's dweller..
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 No.323239

im reading a book about sunlight in human health currently, im only in the second chapter of 12, maybe i paste some highlites in a few days or weeks.

do bother to look into what an earthsip is op. it is like a basement in the sense that it is mostly underneath the earth (for temperature reasons) but it is built to be flooded by sunlight. also it has a greenhouse builtin as a zone of insulation with the result that you almost don't have to heat in the winter. completely offgrid, it produces its own electricity via solar, collects rainwater, treats its own sewage using plants, produces food in the greenhouse.

it is way better then a house.

you might also enjoy dome homes and underground tunnel houses. if i don't forget i link my favorite videos later.

 No.323240

>>323239
Sounds like an ill-advised hippie fantasy. The sewage especially. Plants can't desalinate urine and human fecal enzymes will eat through most greenery. Sewage needs to be treated before it can be "treated" by plants.

 No.323306

>>323240
shit is good for fertilizer

 No.323308

>>323306
…The feces of omnivores and carnivores contain acids and enzymes that prevent the growth of vegetation. Without these, our small stomachs and fast metabolism wouldn't be able to break down greens and seeds quick enough to extract their nutrients. If you or your dog defecates on the lawn, the grass around it dies. Your dog's piss burns the grass yellow in an hour. With their slower and less aggressive digestion, scat from ruminant animals retains uncollected nutrients from what they've eaten which can be absorbed back in to the soil to propagate growth.

No soybeans or hemp is going to sprout from your KFC and Takis diarrhea, Manuel. It's not rocket science.

 No.323316

>>323308
you are too eager to call things impossible without doing your due dilligence. yeah you can overdo it with piss on the plants but some plants can handle it. i'd much more worry about the plants being subjected to the copious amounts of pharmaceuticals that are oozing out of you because of how safe and effective they are…



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 No.306157[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.
ice cold edition
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 No.306943

>>306942
Feel you on that. The worst part is realizing that this is your new standard, the baseline of existence.
It will only get worse. So many of these "chronic" ailments are just permanent torture you'll kinda sorta learn to live with while you are distracted and it's in the background.
But then night comes, no distractions, only the agony and me…
It's so fucked to remember a time where things weren't like this and know you'll never be like that again.

 No.306944

>>306943
I confirm, things only got worse with time, every day feels like a piece of my existence collapses to make room for a nightmare

 No.306945

>>306942
>>306943
>>306944
i relate so much. every night is like a torture chamber. i really can't believe all of this isn't enough to finally make me kill myself and end this meaningless existence.

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>>306945
>>306944
Do you guys still bother with trying to "get better"?

I've reached the conclusion that it's not only futile effort it feels like a mockery of life.
So much effort could be expended on physical therapy, as I once did and doctors etc. it's insane to even think about it.
Endless effort for what exactly?
The reward? Mitigation.

There is no promised fix, there is no true relief, no rejuvenation.
You struggle for no gain, but a reduction in the promised future pain increase.
Your can watch your efforts wasted just to make it so your future suffering only increases linearly instead of exponentially because of course the curses compound unless you act…

I'm not saying become passively suicidal, hell I even made a thread about wanting to live, but I just don't see the point in becoming a mix of Sisyphus and the hunchback of Notre-Dame.

I haven't had a quiet day in a decade now. The sounds of tinnitus at night… it gets easier, but never better. All on top of the physical pains of course.
Just a bit of extra spice.
Thanks, world.

 No.306955

>>306949
I have a palliative approach

I don't cure the diseases anymore but try to suppress the symptoms as much as possible


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 No.47407[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

do any wizards like tea? specifically loose leaf teas? if so, any specific blends or varieties you like/recommend?


i recently got into gongfu brewing and it's pretty much the only thing i've been thinking about these days. i found this hole in the wall tea shop in the chinatown in my city and purchased a shou pu'erh tea cake that i've been picking away at.
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 No.70361

>>70360
Dead site

 No.70362

I'm into Jin Jun Mei lately. Chinese black tea with a deep, mild honey-like taste, I can't believe the garish black teas drunk in the west are made of the same plant.

 No.70365

>>70362
Cool, thanks!


Meanwhile: i've been drinking some funny teas last winter: "Polar lights" and "1001 nights" were remarkable, "Nut Tart" - almost as remarkable as the two above.

I dunno where to get them *in a bag* and not in funny ½oz jars though. Can I trust online shopping here?

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I love tea so much. In fact, I drink tea exclusively instead of coffee.
I am partial to Irish tea. Irish Breakfast with (non-alcoholic) Irish creamer slaps.

 No.70469

>>70468
I like this post, you're a cool wiz


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 No.219448[Reply]

After hitting 30 this feeling has been eating me and I don't know how to resolve it. I started watching different youtube channels and it made me realize how much time I wasted staring at a screen when I could be experiencing the world and creating things. The 21st century offers so many possibilities and yet all I did was sit at home play video games and read inane garbage online. Now I always had depression, anxiety, social autism, adhd, average iq etc. that lead to me being an underachiever but nowadays it feels like I was just the right self-help book and meds/supplement combination and some effort away from solving all these issues.

I could start now but after hitting 30 I feel this sense of hopelessness after experiencing aging. I felt like shit in my 20s but now I realize I actually felt good. Now I tire easily and years of sitting made my body feel rusty. I feel like the youth shield is gone and I can't take the future for granted anymore and expect it to make it even to 40. Every time I experience a new pain or sensation I imagine it to be the start of something serious.

How do you deal with this? It feels like modern technology amplifies winners so if you are a loser it feels extra bad because there is such a big contrast between living with your parents and riding the bus and eating mac and cheese and living in a multi-million dollar mansion with a beautiful view and driving a ferrari and eating at 3 star restauraunts.
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 No.228064

It helps me to cope by thinking that I never had opportunities or potential. I was destined to fail and there was nothing I could do to prevent this outcome. Letting go of high hopes is liberating.

 No.228070

>>219448
>The 21st century offers so many possibilities

Not for you because

>I always had depression, anxiety, social autism, adhd, average iq etc.


Get off the internet and figure out how to make money in the least painful way tolerable. Then start getting as mentally and physically healthy as you can.

I wish it was that easy otherwise I'd not be reading your post nor posting here. But that's what we've got to do. Best of luck.

 No.228204

Lol a wasted life. The society wants you to be a productive circuit in the circuit board. Look at this society of murder and injustice. It is a hateful entity to be disregarded in terms of motivation. You see wasted or failure only when relating yourself to the entity that imprisons you. Winners losers? Treadmill bait.

When you die your universe is obliterated so do what makes you happy not what makes you a "winner" in the eyes of a society of conmen.

 No.228206

>>228204
What if that which makes him happy is to be seen as a winner in the eyes of society and conmen? Cheque mate.

 No.228207

>>228206
Then a) he's likely a failed normie that shouldn't be here or b) he needs to realize that if that's what "makes him happy" he will never reach it as society always shifts the goal posts to extract more from you. You will never be good enough.



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 No.319536[Reply]

I suffer from social anxiety IRL but I also feel little need to socialize.

I've always had 0 friends on Steam. Never been on Discord.
I always avoid joining guilds in MMOs. I turn down friend requests in other games. I have no online friends/contacts.

The only downside is that I am missing out on multiplayer games that require team coordination but I just can't stomach having to speak on a mic.
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 No.323309

It helps to avoid any media that involves friendships. Anime and kids cartoons are notorious for this sort of propaganda. It affects anyone even if they're aware of it. Single player games that aren't story focused generally don't have that issue.

 No.323310

>>323309
I read a post a while ago that called anime "friendslop" kek

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 No.323313

I also have empty steam friends list essentially. It's probably social ignorance for me more than anxiety. I observe discord groups for guilds in mmos and there's all this madness going on and these cliques and established people with their strange hierarchies led by histrionic types. I think is it really worth the effort to try to relate to this alien soup? So far it has not been. I have been my whole life constantly disappointed by people.

 No.323315

Most games I play are single player and I dont have money nor desire to buy meme games to play with online people.



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 No.306923[Reply]

I feel an immense disgust with the fact that I inhabit a human body. It manifests most acutely when I must face a physical process in action. Examples being; having to urinate or defecate, or having an erection. Defecating is particularly bad. I become aware that I am a worthless ape. I feel suicidal when I must wipe shit from my anus. Maybe you laugh at reading such a sentence, but it is truly horrible. I feel particularly demoralised and depleted when I realise that normalfags get to experience reality free from this burden. They do not fixate on the weight of their body, the terror of possessing a spine. They are not reminded that they are nothing but an animated flesh puppet when they face sexual arousal. It all feels like a cruel joke.

 No.306924

Unintelligent evolution put consciousness into a flesh body, normalfags don't feel this burden because they are like bugs they are fit to the evolutionary machinery.

 No.306925

I can't relate cuz I really like pooping.

I do hate having a physical body though, but mostly because meatspace is so cumbersome. Having to move around, all the tiny complexities of real life that make things a hassle, tripping, hitting myself against objects in my house, things falling out of my hand, spilling drinks… I also hate how vulnerable my body is, one poke with a sharp object and I'm probably dead, all the gooey stuff just leaks out.

I would much prefer to be a glowing orb of light or some shit, no physical body, just pure MIND. Maybe soon, after I finally rope.

 No.306938

I am incompatible with living on a very deep and fundamental level. I am 30 and I feel like human bodies after this burst of youth and vitality in the teens and twenties are just slow rotting flesh machines which aren't worth living in. To maintain this rotting machine you must waste away at some job for most of your existence. Why should I bother if I can just hang myself ?
You receive this psychological hostility from other humans with lies, gaslighting, petty torment etc. Why shouldn't I just leave ? Finally there is everyday life, everything is dirty, noisy, unpleasant. I can't say I'm unhappy that I am hanging myself.



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 No.306131[Reply]

Never look for psychiatric help, expecially as an addict. It was the worst mistake I ever made in my life. I got addicted to ultra high doses of xanax 8-10x over maximum, and when I tried to get help, instead of tapering me which is what they do in every civilized country, they took me from 30 to 0 in a day. I had stroke symptoms, 60/40 bpm, i was teleporting in real life, i couldnt talk think or know what day it is, function or do anything. I spent 3 days falling on my knees under the doctor's office in the psychiatric hospital and got treated like an annoying fly. I wanted to call an ambulance to take me out of there, i called an ambulance on myself because I thought I had a stroke when I ran away out of my drugs, but nobody ever checked nor was interested in anything. My doctor was an ukrainian piece of shit that treated me like shit under his shoe. After 12 days in psychiatric prison i barely escaped by pretending to get better, and spent 3 weeks in a psychosis despite taking antipsychotics and antiseizure meds, i felt 24/7 heart attack, stroke and epilepsy symptoms. I also lost feeling in my body, i had visual, auditory, time perception problems, became and invalid that couldnt move or pick up a paper, eat, swallow, feeel thirst, pee, lost ability to control my muscles. If i took a bath i would swallow all the water and not feel it, i hit my head on everything and didnt even feel it, i could punch walls and not feel if i broke my bones. When I went to a private psychiatrist to get help, she saw me and said she doesn't deal with this and kicked me out the door after 30 seconds without letting me explain a single thing. I lost my mind, it has been completely destroyed and ruined to the point there's nothing left. After 5 weeks of this treatment and choking on water I thought i'll die anyway so I went back to my drugs and after taking 1 pill I got a better remission and improvement than over a month of their psychiatric treatment. I could actually feel things and i wanted to cry from happiness. But it was all temporary, and in the end i went back to my old habits, but now, they ruined it so that I get every single side effect from the drug that I never had before despite taking the same amount for a year straight. My physical health has also completely collapsed, I was unable to take a bath for a month, shave, eat, think, time moved 100x times slower and I experienced hell on earth worse than being torturted alive with worst cia methods. Now I have nothiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.306245

>>306132
not even the 2000th worth story if you browse benzo withdrawal forums

That he's still alive to post on the net is a miracle, you don't cold turkey people taking high dose benzos.

 No.306248

>>306245
Completely agreed.
But what do you expect from modern doctors trained in the (((Rockefeller))) model of medicine? They're vicious fucking brainwashed idiots generally without any sympathy for the "patients" they're tasked with seeing.

>My doctor was an ukrainian piece

Are you sure that "ukrainian" doctor wasn't a kike?

Psychiatry in particular is a nasty jewish fraud whose tricks ensnare well-meaning but naive people (ie, they're unfamiliar with the pharmacologic grade of the drugs they use, they're unfamiliar with the consequences both immediate and chronic of these drugs, they don't understand that most psychiatrists are conditioned communistic stewards of the state without any real curative intent in their thoughts, etc.).

>I want to murder people that did this to me but the only person I can kill is myself.


Definitely do not do this. Regain yourself to a calmer state of mind and perceive that this would be a wrong choice.

>My physical health has also completely collapsed, I was unable to take a bath for a month, shave, eat, think, time moved 100x times slower and I experienced hell on earth worse than being torturted alive with worst cia methods.


Are you familiar with akathisia? This is a common sequela for those that taper too quickly off of tranquilizers/anti-anxiety meds like benzodiazepines. It can be bettered with time and nutrition. Do not despair. Your brain may be able to restored to its original healthy condition. I've personally had success with recovering from ssri usage (mostly through time, taking of anti-serotoninergic agents, better diet, exercise). I trust you can have the same.

 No.306250

>>306131
Your too far gone. any solution that we could propose to you will be ridiculous.

 No.306381

I went through Xanax addiction and quitting cold turkey all at once. I think that was 10yrs ago now. It's the worst thing I ever experienced in my life and nothing else even comes close. Hell on earth is the correct description. I experienced most of what you described here, although not everything. I remember the teleporting, the lost memory, the blanks in my memory to where I had no idea what I did or where i had been for entire days at a time. I remember being so scared too scared to move to do anything.

I felt like a tiny mouse in a wide open field with no cover and a hawk flying overhead, knowing it was going to swoop down and devour me. The fear was the worst part, fear I would have a seizure fear I would die, fear that escalated to the extent of being pure biological, neurochemical dread. I lived in a public facility at that time surrounded by criminals. I was too scared to eat or even urinate because I'd have to go to the public shared bathroom. I burned myself severely during that time on the arms intentionally, they're still visible now, 10yrs later. I got through it in the end. It's very dangerous to quit cold turkey though, it can cause permanent brain damage and effects that don't ever go away. Basically the shock to your body is so intense it just breaks you. This is being studied and documented now, after they reviewed several cases of people who even long after physical withdrawal symptoms should have subsided, were still suffering greatly. The worst nightmare is that in some cases even resuming benzodiazepine use did not help them anymore. The damage was already done.

I did experience permanent changes but thankfully nothing so debilitating. I wish I had hope to offer you. But it'd be a lie. All I can say is I sympathize strongly with you, if you're still around.

 No.306936

This horrifies me, I have had chronic pain since birth due to sever sleep apnea since birth (was never checked for it even though I have both asthma and pectus excavatum). I have been tortured every single night since I was a kid with constant choking during sleep (AHI = 70), which has ruined my entire life, literally everything, but the worst is the constant pain. Even pain killers stopped working over time.

Even after sleep apnea treatment at 30 years old (too late), I still have constant pain and the only thing that has helped me so far is benzos, I have taken 1.5 mg bromazolam every night for a year now and pain has been mangeable.

I have tried stopping for a few days but I am then simply unable to sleep for 3 days straight, and the pain comes back just like it was before, no improvement at all, literally torture

I do notice it losing its effectiveness. I would have never tried nenzos at 20, but at 30+ my life is over anyway. I think I will just gradually increase my dose (hopefully only + 0.5 mg every year will be enough).

At some point I will just have to kill myself.



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All you need to begin drawing is a pencil and some paper

Feel free to post any drawings of yours in this thread. Illustration, doodle, traditional, digital - anything goes. Discussion on skillbuilding techniques and fair critique of other wizards' work is welcome.

Videos:

Tyler Edlin - https://www.youtube.com/user/TylerE2284
Proko - https://www.youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Sinix - https://www.youtube.com/user/sinixdesign
Scott Robertson - https://www.youtube.com/user/scottrobertsondesign
Matt Kohr (CtrlPaint) - https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library
Aaron Blaise - https://www.youtube.com/user/AaronBlaiseArt
Vilpu (Anatomy) - https://mega.nz/folder/9Pw1lYaS#Me7LSwlSg59lNGmkj9tt4w/folder/lPoXEYxS

Poses/Gestures
QuickPoses -https://www.quickposes.com/en
PoseSpace -https://www.posespace.com/posetool/default.aspx
https://x6ud.github.io/#/ Animal Head Reference Finder
https://anatomy360.info/anatomy-scan-reference-dump/

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 No.70460

>>70459
>models in CSP
what does that stand for?

 No.70461

>>70458
also how hard is too draw without the wrist?

 No.70462

>>70460
Clip Studio Paint

 No.70463

>>70458
The tip about drawing with your whole arm really helped me a lot
Like I always wonder how people drew perfect circles but I couldn't then I finally realize the problem it was that simple….I always drew with wrists not with my whole arms!

But seriously thank you man!

I started to draw because of a incident where someone drew some fucked up stuff of fictional character I really love and care about and I want to sleep knowing I can draw and do better than that piece of shit and thanks to you! I got closer to my goal of making something amazing and I will make this year at all cost!

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 No.306888[Reply]

Hey mages, wizards, posting this here so some may see it instead of just throwing it in a doc somewhere.

I love life. For a period of about two to three years I was empty and melancholic with constant suicidal thoughts. But now I can't hate the world, the struggle of life moves my soul; the clouds, the sea, the stars, flowers, the wind, it all is so amazing to witness. Most of all I love people, for what they can be, seeing the rare phenomenon of a genuine person, be it in person, through their words, or through something they made, tugs at me like nothing else. And it's not like my life has materially gotten much better, I got out of my nagging bitch aunts house but otherwise not much has changed.
But this transformation has only made everything hurt more, going out amongst the normgroids deeply upsets me because they squander themselves for nothing. But even then I cant bring myself to hate how much it hurts.
If you're reading this mage it'd mean a lot to see you chase your dreams, I don't believe in that crap about humans only being able to care about a certain number of people.
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 No.306919

>>306918
ah i see. well i should've anticipated that you have special needs, so i will help you out. this board, dear mister, is called /dep/, which is a shorthand for Depression. in the english language Depression means, in simple terms, that you're not feeling well. so please kindly go to /lounge/ and be happy there for as long as you wish.

 No.306921

>>306917
I agree with you I highly doubt they're happy either, however is not just trolling some of them truly believe this stuff, we have unironical pro-lifers on wizchan who follow the american religious ideology of magatards.

 No.306922

>>306921
>The only people who aren't chronically depressed and want to bring others down are MAGA
Love it

 No.306931

I don't think this board is for threads like these

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