/hob/ - Hobbies

Anyone here learning to tie knots? Want to learn survival skills for just checking out of society decades from now. I'm completely clueless starting out though because of years spent in front of a screen. Want to prepare for homelessness when it eventually comes one day. I'm getting into growing plants, and plan to guerrilla garden edible plants all over my area so I can have some healthy plants to supplement whatever goyslop they serve in soup kitchens (never been before). I cleared out an area in my parents backyard (it's a jungle at this point lol) where I can practice setting up a tent and sleeping bag every night and take it down every morning, to prepare for being homeless. I want to learn botany and fishing at some point. Maybe how to make rope from plants. I have decades to master it and I'm neet anyways so might as well. I want to learn how to use sticks to worm charm (get worms from the ground) so I can make a worm farm in a plastic water bottle. I'll use the worms for fishing bait and use the soil they produce so I don't need to buy enriched soil I can just make it. Not sure of the clay content of the soil worms produce but if I can use it to make mud bricks with water and dried grass, it would be so badass to go into the woods and just make a mud hut with a thatched roof, and be a hermit meditating and shit. Coming into civilization for supplies and showers and reading books at the library and shit.

>>68609
nah, rivers don't really go up, only down; that's the point of a flow

Anyone read Iamblichus?

Apparently, he is the go to for a classical defence and understanding of Pagan and magical practises. Iamblichus sees Gods and Daemons are real entities that exist on another plane of reality. We are joined to their will through the rituals. The gods are known through the rituals.

Rituals are known only through special revelation. Iamblichus has particular respect for Egyptian practises.

From an epistemological point of view, I have always wondered if there is knowledge (justified true belief) that can only be gained only through something beyond ordinary empirical experience or pure deductive logic.

>>70472
Two different perceptions of magic. One is like Chaos magick - based on psychology and post modernism; the idea that you can manipulate your perceived reality based on the manipulation of your own beliefs.
The other is like Iamblichus. Your beliefs do not matter. What matters is the ritual and the accuracy of the ritual which aligns your reality with that of the God or spirit which is objectively real.

Iamblichus seems more exciting but Chaos Magick may be more plausible.

No idea really. I sort of wish I had (occult) knowledge of something. Something that regular experience and logic could not unlock. There may be something.

>>70473
>>70472
>Magic explanation
Crowley in a way in some book was into some psychological explanation of things
in another was into a religious belief in some way pagan
in other was more into the way of Duquette everything its in your mind but you dont know how big its is
but Crowley actually told a student that in magic you call outer occult forces like gods, angels, spirits and etc.
Who fuck knows, the dude changed from that his genius or HGA was a psychological phenomena to a magical occult third party entity out of control of him that make a possesion of his wife and write a damn religious book like an spiritist.
in some text he says that demons of goetia are just part of the brain, i dont know.
or maybe the two posibilies even if are a contradiction are valid.
Crowley was Agnostic, later more Chaoist, later more pagan, and later more religious and later who fuck knows maybe just trippy dude.
>fringe belief into psy
Some guys of chaos magic have some fringe belief beyond agnosticism or atheistic view in a sense just to open something to a psy-powers thing or something. its a kinda rare belief, its more rare than the typical that magick is just doing material things or not to achieve objetives or things, like hypnosis (yep, magick with K is more related to material world than the old paranormal magic)
in some way you can call that everything is just hypnosis or maybe in the more fringe belief this hypnosis with ritual open something to a psy-powers or who knows.
>RAW and mind powers, maybe
Robert Anton Wilson sometimes was in the middle between paranormal and agnosticism and the dude have a lot of fringe-paranormal maybe explainable experiences into a cosmic schizo shit. you can call it that view into quantum things but the dude sometimes was more into something weird is happening and other times that's its just something materialistic psychological.
He first try to relate it to scientific knowledge of its time like the brain waves, alpha state, altered state of mind, drugs, hypnosis and etc (he in some book tried some experiments with this around sound, waves and etc and he says that in some waves he know itPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

I have read few text on magic but it requires many leaps of faith just like religion, just like anything really. I yawned and closed the book. Maybe it is as true as anything else but man, I don't care.

I am exhausted by things and knowledge.

>>69312
The purpose of life is to enjoy it as much as you can. Most people have children because it's what everyone else does.

Who are the most recent popular philosophers and what are they saying?

Who's a better philosopher to start with, Plato or Aristotle? Socrates didn't right anything, Plato seems to be the OG, but he wrote mainly in dialogues which might not be as nice of a format to read compared to Aristotle's more treatise-like format. I read Plato's Euthyphro already and I feel like it was to subtle for my mind to grasp. I'm sure as I get older though I will understand it better.

>>70533
>I'm sure as I get older though I will understand it better.
huh I think you need like a teacher who can explain to you what the philosophers were trying to say in their scribbles

>>70227
Nick Land

He is saying that post-human intelligence is here to take over and humans are going to slowly bleed out.

I love tea so much. In fact, I drink tea exclusively instead of coffee.
I am partial to Irish tea. Irish Breakfast with (non-alcoholic) Irish creamer slaps.

>>70468
I like this post, you're a cool wiz

When I used to drink tea, I liked this basic very cheap black tea from the discount supermarket. Basically a generic version of pic related, tastes good with lemon and sugar.
However I've become a caffeine addict, and I now tinker and specialise in coffee, which takes up my "drinking liquid" slots of the day.
Tea definitely is respectable and I would still drink it if I didn't need my caffeine.

>>70513
Try Yerba mate. Taste of a tea, caffeine dosage of coffee.

>>70514
good suggestion

Is fun with pencil good for a beginner?

>>70534
You're not going to get better at drawing by reading books. Just grab a pencil and have fun.

>>70535
you aren't gonna get better if you just randomly doodle either. some people need more direction than "just draw".

>>70536
>you aren't gonna get better if you just randomly doodle either.
Yes you will. You can get even better by not having those doodles be random. By imaging a drawing you'd like to see and then just having at it, comparing what you've drawn to how it holds up to what you envisioned, and then working out what you need to change in order for it to look more so like what you had imagined… That is the best way to become a better artist.
>some people need more direction than "just draw".
If a man already in to his adult years hasn't yet developed a desire to create a specific type of artwork so much so that he picks up the $0.31 worth of stationary on his desk and just begins doodling, then he's not cut out to create art. To be someone who creates requires being of a creative personality and belonging to a culture. This creativity must feed that culture and vice-versa.

Imagine a young man in his teens who really likes middle school anime succubi. He likes them, and so he likes to view art of them all day. He associates with the subculture renowned for idoling these 2D and he appreciates the feelings, opinions, and companionship of other men belonging to this subculture. The value he places on his fellows' approval and feelings gives him a desire to contribute to the pool of things he and his fellows enjoy: middle school anime succubi pics. He has an idea of the kind of art he'd like to see of them. He understands what they look like. He knows the standards of quality for 2D art and he's developed his owns particular taste over the years. He has:

- Himself to please with art he enjoys
- The motivation to please others he considers to be the same as him
- An established sense for what makes a good drawing
- A clear goal to shoot for
- And as a bonus, his subculture provides him with positive and constructive feedback

So he has the culture, the motivation, and the goal. As for the resources? $0.31 worth of paper and pencils. He combines what he's learned from appreciating this art and combines it with how he knows that a pencil makes lines on a paper, and he just starts trying to create middle school anime succubi art. Is it crap at first? Of course. Does he know what non-crap 2d succubi art looks like? Yeah. He has a lot of fun doing it all, but noPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>70537
>He has over 200 (two hundred) followers on DeviantArt.
Devart is trash. Unless it's fetish porn or ai coom coomtent you will be lucky to have 50 followers. Also degenerates begging for requests for their degenerate fantasies all the time. That place is such a dump

>>49409
I post on imageboards that aren't 4chan, so I guess most outside of this place would consider it quite niche.

>>70148
wow congrats faggot

>>50746
I love etymologies. It's very fun to break down morphemes

>>50746
https://www.etymonline.com/
You can use this for a broader answer

>>49409
I like to read about
>Psychonautics
(or altered state of mind or how to play with your brain and sensations)
In general i read just about Hypnosis and magic/magick or ritualism, placebos, mind tricks, mindhacking, mind illusions etc.
I dont read much about drugs bacause i dont consume or have money for these (i dont want to turn addict) maybe in my 40 years i will try some drugs or heavy methods but for now i want to be healthy.
Its a fun insteresting hobby but is not a very good talk topic for normies.
Sometimes i talk with this with hippies new agers and some aspie science dudes, not the typical normie but they respect and have interest in these things around mind and body control and sensations.

>>70426
>Half of /dep/ and /wiz/ is about how normies are npc subhumans
Half of /dep/ and /wiz/ are 18-year-old East Europeans who so far have only experienced life through a school environment.

Have you studied the military structure of the Eastern Front Einsatzgruppen?
it's a thing I personally am working on, even if it's super complex.

It is very difficult to find some actual information on genocides which isn't tainted by politics or propaganda. I wonder why politicians and governments have such a fixation on this stuff. Maybe it is simply because they were committed by political regimes.

>>70431
Why is this so true xD

>>70372
12 years is roughly Jupiter's orbit duration. It could be associated with that planet.

>>70373
hmmm intriguing

I used to be interested in this kind of stuff. It all starts falling apart when you start looking for something tangible, like a hard prediction. Or some real information about people's personalities. Then you notice they start coping with ascendant signs to explain why the virgo behaves like a sagitarius or moon signs when 2 people befriend each other but there signs shouldnt like each other.
It is just endless cope and fitting predictions. The personalities described are also so vague, I think you could see yourself in several signs. It is just a huge scam which has been going on since antiquity, I was once reading some texts from the 5th century warning about astrologers being a scam and a waste of money. I guess it is still cool to learn about the stars and the constellations and their terminology, but this would be called amateur astronomy.

>>70445
While I agree with you in this part I think there's something real on the houses. Virtually everything that it says about my life on each house is eerily, precisely accurate and it's not random vague shit, nor is it a good thing in fact. The rest of the charts sound like bullshit, indeed

>>70498
This is kind of what I mean, you read a lot of astrology and then suddenly you find something eerily accurate, ignoring most of what you read didn't really apply and that most of it describes common everyday behavior

>>69446
what game have you been playing? do you think you can play shafow of the colosus?

>>69448
>Shadow of the Colossus
Now that's one my tablet definitely can't run.

I've been playing mostly NES, recently finished DuckTales for the 1st time and it was a blast, now I'm replaying TECMO World Cup Soccer on NES because this FIFA Club World Cup that's taking place in the USA got me in the mood for some soccer too.

>>69449
enjoy your games. there are good games too that aren't sotc. also weird seeing a american wanting to play soccer

>>69438
I put the Edge Panel (A.K.A. Taskbar/Dock) on the left and now it sort of reminds me of Ubuntu with Android/One UI having both it on the left, and a top panel, even if said panel is transparent here. I don't know, I just like how it reminds me of my favorite Linux distro, and the iconic Unity DE, though even nowadays with GNOME they still go for this look somewhat.

I personally use openSUSE Tumbleweed GNU/Linux, it's been alright so far. Albeit thinking about switching distros out to something that doesn't update quite as frequently.

>>70503
You think Ted Kaczynski didn't get very far in math?

I have the goal to understand Galois Theory. Seems very interesting for understanding the structure of numbers.
Bought a book on an introduction to abstract algebra that goes through the fundamentals of group and field theory finishing with Galois.

>>70507
I just wanted to make video games, man

>>70507
saw some people on twitter that are building a math knowledge graph, connecting every concept starting from elementary school, all the way up to graduate level math. but they deliberately don't post the whole thing so they can shill their proprietary learning platform. if you had the whole map, you could just follow it on your own and self-study. you could pick a concept and go backwards and learn all the prerequisites, figure out what fundamentals you might be missing. i think stuff like this should be standardized, would make learning complex subjects more accessible.

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