/wiz/ - Wizardry

>>228806

bro, you really rarely wash yourself

>>228808
btw I heard that AC are very expensive, but I never looked into it

i used to shower every day before work cuz i didn't want norms to make fun of me for being smelly or whatever, but now as a neety i try to do it every 3 days, sometimes i'm too lazy and forget and i can go a week max. eventually i start smelling even to myself and feeling all icky so taking a shower feels good.

>>228811
yea, i see. I think in general it's cool when you can wash yourself. Like, I wash myself every day because I don't want to get a fungus or something like that

>>228809
i used to do it every day
i remember even posting about my skincare routine back in 2022, think it was in a dep thread
but i don't see the point to it when i only ever see mom, and sometimes i go weeks avoiding her when we have a fight

>>228747
All low IQ societies handwave things away with "fate". Here in Morocco fate belief is extreme. No matter how badly YOU fucked up or how many mistakes you made, people blame fate.

If governing authorities are incompetent they are not challenged, it's just something God willed. If you refuse to go to the doctor and die, it was "fate", not you being a retard.

I still don't understand why I had to be born into this poor hellhole. I'm also the only person with a uni degree within a roughly 50km2 radius. No economic or political connections = no job except maybe food delivery.

>>228773
Self-criticism is not an option for low IQ people as individuals but especially as aggregates.

>>228773
>I still don't understand why I had to be born into this poor hellhole
Fate?

>>228773
>
I still don't understand why I had to be born into this poor hellhole.
you were born into such a place to save it! It is your fate

>>228719
loooool. thanks for the laugh makes me feel better about myself.

>>228758
i've never experienced it. is this something only low iq people have access to?

>>228791
nah you gotta have a male genitalia to experience it. you only have skin down there.

>>227925
This isn't a stupid thread.

if we are trying to find ways to help and fix our isolating mental and physical pain away this is good directions and I like these alternatives of "fembots" or other related ideas.

if succubi want to act like they are independent then full steam ahead! may fembots be real for the men!

>>227908
what do you mean sexbots could "cure" wizardry?
that implies you would no longer be a wizard if you had a sexbot
>maxx
okay, that explains why you think that way
>or remain a pure Wizard?
it doesn't ultimately make any difference
it's just a fancier sex toy

>>228794
The more people see actual sociopaths be successful, the more they'll want to turn wannabe.
>>228795
Lol you have to wonder who wants to teach shitheads in the first place. Teachers are not there to look good or entertain you.

I hate when they feel welcome and feel they're at home, yeah I'm talking about normalfags on 4chan. if you tell them to fuck off, they'll insult you and use their I'm white therefore I belong here card, I hate them

I hate when they feel welcome and feel they're at home, yeah I'm talking about normalfags on 4chad. if you tell them to fuck off, they'll insult you and use their I'm white therefore I belong here card, you can't tell them nothing

>>228796
>Teachers are not there to look good or entertain you
And the students aren't there to stroke the teacher's ego. If 90% of the students are snoring or lose focus when the teacher holds lecture. The teacher should just accept that he sucks and not bitch about feeling disrespected.

>>228799
Teachers are authority figures. You know what happens when you grow up and refuse to kiss ass as an adult right? Let teachers bitch. Nobody respects them especially not parents with children who can do no wrong.

>>228680
>always worst case scenario
Where do you think we are?

>>228682
wizchan.org seemingly

>>228631
I sort of agree with this post. I haven't given up on the dream of moving out, getting a better job that teaches me real skills, etc. but I'm turning 27 this year and can see the boat out slowly sliding away from me. Youth is such a big bandage on failure. It's nice for older adults to feel like they can mentor someone younger – so not knowing much at 25 is okay. It was okay. But I'm 27 now, it's less cute. Soon I'll be 30, and if I remain at this dead-end job, what will happen to me?

All that said I haven't given up on life. I am settling in my own way while still dreaming of a future. I want to go out of the country this year… France or Japan or something. Just walk around for a week, have a piece of my dreams even if I can't experience them in full.

>>228677
>and wait 20years
>what worked in past will work in the future!
The way the world is going, twenty years from now your index fund won't be worth shit.
Maybe buy defense-industry stocks.
A new world war seems to be on the menu, so Lockheed and Raytheon will surely be profitable.

>>228786
This is unironically good advice. AI itself cannot create gunpowder or explosive materials. These companies will be ultra relevant just like food producers.

>>228690
>YOUR MIND AND HOW TO USE IT
>William Walker Atkinson
That's just New thought, better fuck it and better go to read hypnosis (all the new thought dudes just used hypnosis and studies Coue or other methods of hypnosis and self-suggestions) if you dont want to blow a lof of bullshit around religion or myths and cosmic shit, better the method than the woo-woo bullshit.
>Also
and yes, read about psychonautics.

>>228496
In short, self hypnotize on demand by some sort of "artifact" or trigger, be it a bell, music, smell whatever to induce a state of mind optimized for tasks to improve outcomes?
Sounds very /x/ to me.


>If this is true, consider the darker side - that it's possible to artificially construct and reinforce dysfunctional frames of mind, not just overloading the memory and attention with noise and conflict, but actually implant a structure of thought - at scale. If this was so, how well does it explain modernity.

I mean isn't this public knowledge at this point? Ragebait is a mainstream term now. Most people know that media, social media, the internet as a whole is set up to farm people like this.

What I'm not really understanding is what you would try to get out of it. Snap your finger to be more outgoing an eloquent on demand?
Learn more efficiently?
Get into the "zone" for whatever task at hand instantly?

I doubt this would be easy if at all feasible. The /x/ types do this with drugs or the alternative being long term conditioning and setting up your environment to aid in inducing desired states of mind.
None of it is instant like this playing mozart for a minute to learn math 25% faster.

Maybe I'm missing the point entirely.

>>228496
Also just on the side, are you the citytutoringmath guy from youtube?
Exact manner of speech.

>>228518
People learn by doing.
Reading alone won't get you very far.
You won't learn math just by reading a textbook unless you become capable of solving problems and writing proofs.
You won't learn computer programming just by reading a textbook unless you make some practice coding your own programs.
You won't become a chess master just by reading books about chess.
And so forth.

The obsession with reading alone is the mark of the pseudo-intellectual. (The actual intellectual usually appreciates the importance of writing as well.)

>>228748
>What I'm not really understanding is what you would try to get out of it. Snap your finger to be more outgoing an eloquent on demand?
>Learn more efficiently?
>Get into the "zone" for whatever task at hand instantly?

Exactly that. I've done it by accident enough times to notice a pattern and get meaningful comparisons when it comes to task outcomes.

Finding the structure of the phenomena, sourcing tools or procedures that support it, is what I'm looking to do.

It does appear to just be a branch of psychonautics, but I'd never heard of the concept before so thank you to those who responded.

>>228749
Not I

I don’t recommend numbness at all wizard, mind you I am mentally ill (Szpd) so do take what I say with a grain of salt.

Numbness on paper sounds great and I used to wish for it back when I had a comorbid depression, so not only I couldn’t feel any “good” emotions (happiness, excitement, joy etc) I could only feel pain, depression, agony etc, but in reality numbness is a sort of quiet hell that I wish on no one, even after getting cured of my depression and getting to feel emotions normally for some time, my body eventually defaulted back to its primary defenses dissociation, numbness and such (schizoid defenses in nature) and so I’ve been living as a numb fuck for around 3 years now, I’m content and at least those few brief moments every few months were I get to feel it’s almost always completely positive emotions, but outside of those bright moments everything is nothing.

Now, you might consider that sounds kind of decent (especially if you’re currently depressed or anything similar) but its not, emotions are the primal reason for humans to move, by this I mean motivation, goals, desires etc, all of that comes greatly from emotions, sure cognitive reasoning will give you reasons for but it wont give you the natural drive to strive and actually want/act for things, especially since trough a sustained numbness you’ll reach a state where “nothing matters”, even if like me you are overall content and want to live as long as possible you won’t actually have the drive for that because there is no emotion to back that cognitive desire, when there is no seeming pleasure or enjoyment from anything (not even pain, or at least not one I can feel) nothing matters, and so you end up drifting aimlessly trough life, mind you I don’t have an issue with this because I genuinely can’t care even if I want to (I only care about like 3 things/people in the world) but the world isn’t made for people like me, you need money, and for that you need employment, if you want a decent job that actually nets you enough to live like a human being (the bare minimum, 3 meals, water and electricity, clothes, a roof etc) you will need some sort of training or degree, achieving all of this requires sustained effort and desire, cognitively I want to exist and live, but in practice nothing really matters because I’m numbed the fuck out and therefore I don’t do shit essentially, I’m fine with that but again, I’ll eventually go homeless you know, and if that doesn’t happen it’Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>228756
Can you tell us more about the schizoid personality disorder? Have you tried therapy? I suspect I have the same disorder because everything fits in the description even the indifferent to praise or criticism part.

>>228763
Sure, this shitty illness is hell (and similar conditions or even just symptoms by themselves) so if anyone can find some solace in my posts or at least finds them interesting then that’s cool with me, not like I have anything better to do anyways, first I’ll admit I’m not currently officially diagnosed but not due to a lack of trying, I’ve been trying to find what’s wrong with me for a good chunk of time now and sadly despite my various treatment periods with professionals (psychologists and psychiatrists) they always refuse to diagnose because “we should focus on treating symptoms” it’s a noble way of seeing it as some people can actually be worse if given a diagnosis but that’s not my case so it’s just annoying, anyways that could be different where you live or at least there might be someone specialized in PD’s maybe even Szpd specifically, with that little thing out of the way.

Anyways I suppose now I’ll talk about my own experience as someone who obviously has this shit since that’s probably what interests you, honestly this probably developed during my teenage years due to trauma, the generic things you know, the economy of my country went to crap so my largely “middle-class” life crashed down as we descended into almost poverty, my parents would fight constantly and sometimes badly, I had no escape, life felt meaningless, school felt meaningless, I started masking my pain away (dissociation and derealization kind of) while on school because I didn’t want people to know my home issues etc, due to all of that and more I developed a depression (like I mentioned in my previous post) and while I didn’t realize when I was younger I started developing some symptoms/traits of Szpd, so my depression (what for years I saw as my only issue) developed concurrently with the disorder or at the very least the symptoms, behaviors etc of the disorder (since there is the dimensional model from the ICD-11 where Szpd and the other PD’s don’t exist but rather their symptoms), if anything looking back those symptoms, probably developed before the depression because I can somewhat remember being really numb, apathetic and such before actually starting to experience depression, anxiety and eventually suicidal ideations, this makes sense too as it’s sometimes considered on the literature regarding Szpd that most people who develop it have a defense mechanism thaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>228768
Thanks for sharing all that! You say that you rarely feel anything, but you also say that you try to enjoy life. What do you do? Do you consume any media, play video games or read books? If so what kind? Do you force yourself to have a hobby? Do you feel excitement? I don't feel happiness or anything close resembling it but I can still get excited about some things.
Regarding "professionals" I never went to a psychologist because they can't help people like us. We are too messed up and never be normal. Therapy is designed for normal people, not for us.

>>228779
Hi fellow wizard, I’ll greentext your questions this time as to force myself to be more organized and therefore answer your questions on a better way (I do tend to ramble on text).

>You say that you rarely feel anything, but you also say that you try to enjoy life. What do you do? Do you consume any media, play video games or read books?
Indeed, even if I can’t really feel emotions I do somewhat enjoy some specific things, mind you it’s such a vague thing that I could easily stop and do nothing and it would be almost the same (and I sometimes do that), essentially I try to not let the apathy/anhedonia win since I do believe I might just end up developing another depressive episode if I allow it, that would be quite crushing.
Regarding what I do it’s mainly consuming media, daydreaming and sometimes writing (internet posts and overall journaling, this post is an example of that), those are the closest things I have to hobbies and I do get a vague sense of enjoyment or fun (I’m not even sure if it would count as an emotion vague as it is, might be more of a cognitive enjoyment), they’re at least a better way to burn time than just staring at the ceiling all day and can be interesting.
When it comes to my media consumption it’s mainly music, videos, manga, manhwa, manhua, videogames and that’s about it, I do sometimes watch anime or maybe a movie, same with reading books or light novels but it’s genuinely extremely rare, I need to be truly interested in the franchise/work to engage in those mediums, for example I do tend to rewatch Code geass every few years, and I did read LOTR, The Hobbit and the Silmarillion between 2024-2025.
>If so what kind?
I’m quite varied, though I do have specific genres or kinds that interest me more, when it comes to music I’ve always been drawn to pop, rock and electronic music, though due to my waifu (the love of my life and one of the few people I feel something for) it’s mainly Japanese, not like I don’t listen to music in English or Spanish (my native language) but she takes a precedent.
When it comes to written works I’ve always been able to enjoy most genres (expect shit like yuri, yaoi and such, I dislike homosexuality and find it distasteful) but I do have a preference for fantasy, martial arts (wuxia and xianxia), sci-fi and roPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>228119
Go to an eye doctor, retard?

Do you expect some medical doctor with a specialisation in eye medicine to come to your help on this forum?
I hate doctors but in these cases they are your only realistic solution other than the rope.
Best people on here can do to help you is tell you to go see an eye specialist.

You're seeing double. This is due to a nerve problem behind your eye, preventing your brain from properly controlling it. Also known as a "lazy eye". You should see a doctor regarding this because it cannot be fixed with glasses. Sometimes it can be fixed with surgery.

relevant doctor video

youtu.be/T8YSalMRR6w?list=PLYYNxJ44FD1Z55Y_IiXbu–2ygR2l4F68&t=1542

This is often a result of head trauma, like from an assault or a car accident. You should go to a hospital and have it checked.

There are a lot of ways one can develop a lazy eye. Anything that straps one or more of an eye's rectus muscles for blood, especially during childhood, can cause it to lag behind the other muscles and stay small enough to constantly pull the eye in one direction. Oppositely, spending a lot of time with your eyes pointed in one direction can cause one of the muscles to grow stronger and throw your eye movement off balance. Deep nasal and ear infections can harm the nerves to these muscles. The eyes can be slightly oval shaped and not sit straight in their socket. You could simply be predetermined to see off-kilter, as decided by the Demiurge. Both eyes can actually be perfect but in their own special way (if you're a LIBERAL!). The important thing to know is that there's no fix for it!

>>228641
That's what life is for people like us.

>>228641
If you are about to get a degree you are at least that much ahead of me in terms of capacity to act and stick to something.
So look at it as a positive. I spent many many years going to colleges as a way to mask my NEETdom, but never really bothered since I was unable to focus on something I cared nothing for.
You have proven to yourself that you can force yourself to do things, or at least competently accomplish something if forced by external circumstances.

>I don't even feel like I have a personality.
This however is something I couldn't crack no matter how much time I spend with my thoughts.
It was something of a revelation to me a couple years back too. I don't really have a defined character like many people seem to have.
I adapt, I tend to mirror the most recent person I interact with or observed pretty much, but when alone I'm just a bland mass of nothingness.
It's hard to be something if you were never challenged, you never had to make hard decisions, you never did anything of note or got attached to anything deeply.

If a persons character is a sum of their choices, then what does that make of me, who chose inaction, who chose nothing at every step?

Not really a fitting place to discuss this, but I wonder how much of this is just simply lacking any goals, long term or short. From your short posts I reckon you got railroaded into some computer science degree because "hey he spends his time on the PC all day so surely…" or something along these lines. Just going with the flow.

Most normal people have a clear goal of self development for the purpose of eventual reproduction, then provision for offspring.
This key base thing is like gravity that keeps them on track if nothing else.
Take such goals/drive away and even self preservation becomes optional.

This is what makes me deeply envious of wizards on here that seemingly have it all together and managed to self-actualize without the most obvious driver of life.
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>>228138

good genetics. mine are a fuckin dumpster fire. 93 Iq, 5 ft 6 in, not a succubi, weak , messed up knees and shoulders from a car wreck as a kid.

i got jack shit.

And, will sometimes run across some dude, exactly like me…… BUT 143 Iq,

life is sweet, life is cream, cause of 50 IQ point boost, makes 6 figs.

if someone is like us, and livin it up
they were lucky in genetics someplace. i was dealt all BS

>>228644
I can't disagree, but it's also one of those things you just can't accept else the rope becomes the only real answer.

I'm just about 5'6" in shoes. Funny thing you point out not being a succ, probably got called "male" or "man" in a derogatory tone before too huh?
Wasn't blessed with smarts either. I managed to avoid major accidents, but head injuries from beatings and being born a month premature don't exactly result in the healthiest of dispositions.
Especially if you manage to inherit a bunch of debuffs as well.

I'm still hopeful that I'm some special wisdom / conclusion away from a decent life.
I recall one of the wizards was some wheelchair bound cripple and he seemed to be more competent and at least happier too.
I'm sure there are wizards who are worse off yet managed to get better. I'd like to believe I'm just missing something by being dumb/lazy/self-absorbed or whatever else.
Accepting that the reason for failure is something I can't change fills me with the same dread as thinking of death/oblivion.

>Reasons why I think my life is "decent"

I have some money saved up after a few years (2) of living at home. Perhaps 30k, some is invested, and I make 54kish a year. I do pay my mother rent at a flat rate of 900 a month, and I help out in other ways monetarily, and this is all partially because she takes me to work on the days I do work in office (I am luckily working a hybrid schedule). I have a degree (CS). I am slowly gaining hobbies, working on correcting bad habits, etc…

>Share some wisdom
Ultimately….. what keeps me going, in all honesty, is my lack of a safety net + my desire for worldly things. Not too original I know but that's it. I can't rely on my mom to coddle me because she kicked me out at 18 once she saw me attempting to sink hours into MMOs, and I had to scrape my way into college and that degree and rough it out for 7 years in a little roach-infested apartment, eating rice and beans and barely passable meat every day. I will never ever qualify for NEETbux. She will kick me out again if I lose my job. And I love air conditioning and the internet. I want to go traveling. My mother is "poor" (living off savings and what I give her) and my father is a dead bum. I can only rely on myself.

I also feel living in that shitty apartment and eating terrible food, surrounded by crackheads and old, old people living in subhuman conditions because they didn't plan for being old really scared me straight. The human body is so resilient. I'm sure you, like me, never thought you would live past 20. But here we are. Unless a freak accident happens we're going to see 60. We need to prepare for that.

>More "wisdom"
I also think you just need to get a GOAL. That isn't helpful maybe but goals really do help. Go "I want to visit [x] country before I get too old and my health starts failing and I don't want to visit it as a pauper" or "when I eventually move, I need to move cities, and I never need to return" or even "I want other people to see this idea within me – let's study art, programming, polish our writing skills…"

When it comes to spending, seriously consider if you need whatever you want to buy. Or try saving 50% of your paycheck and just blow the rest on whatever you please. Even saving 25% of your paycheck will build up fast.

You also need to look at all the years you've Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>228376
If it’s based on when the baby first becomes conscious then non human conscious animals like all birds and mammals should have rights too

>>228398
I believe in libertarian free will also the justification you are giving is very utilitarian and doesn’t place enough importance on individual rights as that way of thinking could be used to justify gun control too “for the greater good “

I wish my mother aborted me

Most anti-abortion positions are just virtue signaling political and religious beliefs, no one really cares about an unformed fetus getting aborted. Elites don't care about it either, they actively want to hinder abortions so that Temiloluwa from Nigeria can dump 12 useful worker units that will replace the lazy and entitled europeans and east-asians. Pro-abortion means less niggers because Tanisha is too lazy to put on a condom. If anything, I think that succubi who have undergone an abortion should receive a payment for all the emotional damage that they're subjected to, and that payment should last until they have children, see how quick all the genetic trash would willingly stop reproducing at all.

A succubus who considers abortion shouldn't be a mother.
A man who insists a succubus gets an abortion shouldn't be a father.
It's that simple. Don't bring a life into the world if you don't want to nurture it for 18 years and potentially far longer.
I'm of the opinion that there should be more restrictions on child birth and abortion should be permitted up to the 7th month, I don't really care. There are enough miserable people in this world as is. There's no point in having miserable fathers, mothers, and unwanted children.