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[–]  No.290289[Reply][Watch Thread]

Serious question for any wizcels:

Do you ever wonder how you got here…as in, how or why you "woke up" when you did, where you did, to the people (parents) that you did? It's impossible to make sense of. Just on one fucking terrible day, we took up consciousness, literally out of nowhere we are in bodies and tasked with learning the mechanics of entire material world. What caused us to be born when we were, to whom we were? I don't accept that it was random, or mere bare biology..I feel within myself that this life is a targeted punishment and that were I smarter I would have avoided being born entirely. What piece of shit god thinks he/it has the right to do this to us? We are born, thereafter we spend a few years simply making basic sense of things, go off to school, probably suffer a lot, continue to grow up, endure more sadness, and now through all of it we just continue to get older and weaker and sadder. This life is a crime against our souls and whatever caused us to come here HAS TO PAY. Really the only thing I fear is being forced to come back to this shitheap of a world to suffer again…and I do worry about this precisely because I don't know how I got here in the first place. I feel deeply sorry for all the new souls born to this world…there is just so much to learn, but even more there is just so much to suffer through…and I cannot understand what kind of god would force this sort of existence on tender helpless beings? The demiurge must be overcome.
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[–]  No.299432

>>290993
no, you fucking retarded normalnigger, that's not the fucking "deduction"
the demiurge and the realm spawned by his own malevolant nature is the best theory to explain our current predicament given that one's own individual consciousness is eternal and uncreated.
and then this theory also helps understand many other things such as why this realm sucks so, and why we humans have a dual inner nature, a demiurgic and sinister side, and an angelic and numinous one. the former is the part of you that belongs to the demiurge's realm, the latter is who you really are.

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>>299416
You do realize most muslims on the planet can't even read and write?

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>>299435
Yeah my post was more of a desire to tell someone about my thoughts regarding Islam as there aren't many places for me in real life where I can do so. I do not expect Muslims or other followers of organised religions that have experienced childhood indoctrination to spontaneously choose to take an objective look at the nonsense they have been raised to believe. Anyone not born into a religious family should consider themselves lucky as the grasp of childhood indoctrination on people's minds is astonishingly strong. Even amongst middle class and upper class educated people, few manage to escape. I can at least find some solace in how the young people in the country where I grew up are becoming increasingly secularised. The succubi are dressing increasingly provocatively and the mosques are becoming increasingly empty. Unfortunately, this is more the result of Westernisation and social media rather than independent thought but I have stopped caring. I do not expect to ever pass on my genes and I will probably see myself out of this world soon.

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>>299442
Which country are you from?

[–]  No.299476

>>299461
I shall not mention my country of origin as it is not the country I was referring to in my post, hence my careful phrasing ("the country where I grew up"). The country I was talking about was Jordan. My statements apply to the capital (Amman) and are based on my experience. I imagine the more remote areas of the country remain highly conservative.



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[–]  No.299383[Reply][Watch Thread]

I can't deal or interact with people, meaning I will never have the connections and social skills needed to get and hold a job, meaning i will never be able to survive, leaving me with no option other than offing my self, I feel as if this world existed to make things worse for me.
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>>299470
Nobody is denying 'cause and effect'. What engineered chemicals are you smoking?

[–]  No.299472

>>299471
Alright; let's do this properly and not be screaming in bad faith

Assuming we use wiki definitions, the relevant observations are:

1. There is a chain of prior occurrences which causally determine each event.

2. An event cannot occur in absolute isolation because every event interacts with its environment for it to *be* an event.

3. Causal basis for events can be traced to natural forces such as gravity, entropy etc. calculated out to the edge of a field of reference.

4. As a system becomes more complex through the interaction of sub-systems and the root causes progressively more lengthy to detect and subject to mis-interpretation. Further, instruments to detect events and root causes begin to influence the subjects they detect - even in simple cases such as magnetism.

5. Cognition and will are events that occur in brain - or brain-like - physical systems.


Therefore:

For free will - the capacity for a human being to make a free choice - to be true one of those observations have to be false. I'll try and steelman them for example, by all means provide your own:

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>>299471
Many people have pointed out the obvious incompatibility between free will and causality for a long time. Any time someone exercised "free will" it would be like a 'first cause' magically coming in and changing the laws of physics somehow. It is a ridiculous concept

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>>299473
but if it were without causality, it would be purely random, and that can't be called free will. it's precisely because there's reasons and motives that there's free will.

[–]  No.299475

>>299474
I think what you call free will is what >>299473 calls the illusion of free will



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[–]  No.297968[Reply][Last 50 Posts][Watch Thread]

2025 The Great Depression 2. Post your pain and suffering. Previous >>294941
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[–]  No.299438>>299441

What is going on with me? I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me. I feel so lost, dumb and groundless. I just watch reels all day to distract myself. I don't even feel hatred for people anymore. I understand nothing. I am like a leaf in the wind. I am going through life like an NPC. I have no spatial or social awareness. I kinda of feel okay.

I just don't know…

[–]  No.299441

>>299438
Sounds like derealization or maybe depersonalization?

[–]  No.299462

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Can't believe there was a time that feels like it wasn't that long ago when I was in my 20s, conscious, in control of my destiny and at no point did I stop ending up a 33 yo loser with nothing. What the hell man. Im in denial that it was me. It feels like I just recently woke up in this body inheriting this mess of a life.

[–]  No.299465>>299466

I am having trouble remembering things and thinking clearly. i think i have creutzfeld jacob disease

[–]  No.299466

>>299465
Most likely just brainfog induced by diet or stress. How well do you eat, sleep, and play?


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[–]  No.298319[Reply][Watch Thread]

This thread is for the discussion of the greatest misfortune in existence that is disease.

Healthy people are NPCs. They don't really exist. With disease comes the awareness of your body that your private hell and your true existence begins and hear the scream of everything. Pain teach you what it means to really exist. Disease's manifesto: to live is to suffer like a ragdoll while fate prisons you in the eternal hours pregnant with pain to cure of you from the sin of life.
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>>299398
I had this too and I couldn't eat anything solid for almost a year. I went to a doctor and I kept gagging when she put the instrument in and she acted so bitchy about it that I just gave up and didn't want to deal with any kind of uncomfortable invasive tests so I just ate slop for a year hoping it's cancer and that it fucking kills me. But eventually I just trained myself to eat normally, little by little, now I'm back to normal but I still sometimes catch myself mid swallow and spit it out. I don't know if it was purely psychosomatic or if it was some weird medical problem that went away on its own. It got me super depressed because food was one of my last copes and all I could eat was fucking yoghurts, soups, mashed potatoes, shakes, which got old pretty fast.

[–]  No.299418>>299422

I found an injured mouse outside and I took it in, feeling sorry for it.

I fed it some food and checked over it for injuries. After I seen it was covered in fleas and I remembered how Plague was spread, I put it back outside.

It's been two days and I'm feeling pretty fucking sick ngl. Not like hospitalization tier, but like I have a mild flu.

I'm wondering how bad I've fucked myself up. I don't think I'll get plague or one of the horrific killing diseases. I'm not in that part of the world for that sort of shit. But I wouldn't be surprised if I get something that rolls me for like a month.

[–]  No.299422>>299423

>>299418
I'm usually pretty sympathetic to various creatures but mice ain't one of them. I hate those little bastards sneaking into my house and carrying all sorts of nasty diseases. You should definitely check if there have been hantavirus cases in your state/area, that kills people even in the US.

[–]  No.299423

>>299422
I'm not from burgerland and Hantavirus is unheard of here, there's literally never been a case. The Plague hasn't been recorded as really being in my country as far as I know either. If it was Bubonic I'd likely be hospitalized right now.

I likely have caught either Leptospirosis or Salmonella, or some other random bacterial infection. The most common ones seem to be in the range of "you're gonna feel fucked up for the next month".

I'm off to the doctor Monday to look into it.

[–]  No.299449

>>299398
>>299402
both of you should look up 'thiamine deficiency', might be related to what youre experiencing. ive had minimal dysphagia moments (i cant swallow spit and takes me like 6 times trying to make it work), like i wouldnt even call it episodes or spells or frequent enough to bother with them, but frequent enough to notice and tell myself 'hey this has NEVER happened to you before…'

do either of you get dry mouth at times too?



[–]  No.277007[Reply][Last 50 Posts]>>298523[Watch Thread]

The purpose of this thread is to counter the general tenor of sadness that defines all the other threads. This thread will therefore feature practical advice about reducing suicidal behavior even when we feel most suicidal. Naturally, being that I started the topic, I will be the first to contribute.

(1) Know that I care about you guys deeply and sincerely. Call me a faggot, I don't care.
(2) Examine what you are eating. For example, gluten especially produces depressive/psychotic episodes in sensitive autistic individuals. Sugar also is not healthy for your brain.
(3) Make sure you are getting sufficient sleep. Chronic sleeplessness or even a few days' worth of irregular sleep can seriously interfere with the clarity of our thinking.
(4) Clean up. Taking a warm shower and putting on fresh clean clothes always is refreshing and helps to break up darkened mental habits.
(5) Breathe fresh air. Open the windows to your wiz-cave and allow some wind to come in.
(6) Watch your breathing. When we are panicked, our breathing can become very disordered and we do not recognize the effect this has on our thinking. Take deep, purposeful breaths, and collect your thoughts.
(7) Respect yourself. You have done your best to survive in an awful world, and you should grant yourself forgiveness for any mistakes and the allowance to rest with a composed and balanced mind.

I've done my part. Anyone else?
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[–]  No.298523

>>277007 (OP)
1) You are regarded in terms of honor.
2) Already determined that "closed taste" is my best option, gluten does not affect me. I still take care, just in case.
3) Whoever spends his life wageslaving while not being built for such tasks, will not be able to properly rest. That is the type of person that needs to go to bed with some energy inside.
4) Dental care is holy. And tragically forgotten within these circles.
5) About fresh air: https://annapurnaliving.com/blog/the-ambrosial-hours
6) I wonder how newbies here these year are still unlectured about nosebreathing
7) Our regrets seem to have life of their own.

[–]  No.298709>>298865

>>298521
be careful with this. also make sure you are drinking plenty of water always (whether you're fasting or not). but with all such said still intermittent fasting is probably better than one long extended fast.

[–]  No.298865

>>298709
Intermittent fasting intermittently practiced is a good healthful practice everyone should ideally follow.

[–]  No.299347

>>292441
Me too

[–]  No.299445

>>296342
Good points


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[–]  No.296811[Reply][Last 50 Posts][Watch Thread]

2025 will be the layoff year edition. How we holding up?

previous >>289727
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[–]  No.299382

>>299372
He referred to him not getting what he wants "being treated like a bitch" so he likely has a legal history of some sort of niggotry.

[–]  No.299391

>>299372
I'm a scary retard so I got in alot of legal trouble and burnt alot of bridges.

[–]  No.299392

>>299352
I was eating my burger at McDonalds recently and heard the jeet manager there giving a job interview to some teenage succubus and man it sounded insufferable. He sounded like he was high on some sort of upper, because he was just blabbering blabbering blabbering. I got a headache just listening to it from a few tables down, I couldn't imagine actually working there.

[–]  No.299439>>299440

I'm gonna stop working soon due to studies but I fear going back to being a depressed wretch due to not having working routine. I tried this before but didn't work. Anyone here has gone through this before?

[–]  No.299440

>>299439
I've been working at the same job for 3 years now, started when I was 28 and it was my first job. Shitty warehouse job. Brother got me in then left shortly after. I want to go back to college but I'm terrified about quitting the current job. I've been to several interviews already while working here and never had any luck. Doubt I will ever pass one and just go back to permaneet.


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[–]  No.299408[Reply]>>299409>>299410>>299411[Watch Thread]

I've heard a lot about "fear of missing out"/"fomo". But I have a different kind of fear that doesn't really make sense in my mind: a fear of keeping up with things, or, a fear of catching up.

For example: Many years ago I played internet mahjong a lot. But eventually I stopped playing for a few months. Now, any time I consider playing again, I get paralyzed by this irrational fear. I think things like "it's too late for me to get back into this". And, of course, the fact that this fear stops me from catching back up only makes this fear grow larger and larger.

I once had a small youtube channel but it has been so many years since I uploaded anything, I feel like "it's too late for this, I missed the boat, what's done is done".

I know this fear is irrational but I still am held back it.
Does anyone relate to this fear AT ALL?
I am bad at describing this so this might not make any sense at all.

[–]  No.299409

>>299408 (OP)
isnt that basically just being lazy and procrastinating?

[–]  No.299410

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>>299408 (OP)
I relate OP, it feels like you could have done all the things you want to do at younger age and now you feel like it is a waste of time because your not young anymore, why even try I'll die soon? your brain is saying, and you agree with your brain, then you procrastinate. its a unhealthy habit brcause at the end of the day you do nothing and you wasted your day doing nothing.
the only thing is to start NOW and tomorrow and then the day after, etc…its like bycicle, if you stop treadle you fall.

[–]  No.299411

>>299408 (OP)
>"it's too late for me to get back into this"
We (and by that I mean you) can dissect these thoughts for their origin and why they hold so much sway on you. It's a good mental exercise.

It usually goes like this for me.
>Want to play 'jong?
Y/N. If you want to, what stops you?
>Its too late
Late for what?
>Im XX old KHV I should be doing whateverwhatever
What this had to do with wanting to play 'jong?

[–]  No.299412

This sounds a like straight up clinical depression.

If you've incidentally trained yourself not to enjoy things in general, then the sense of post enjoyment comedown might have further conditioned you to avoid things you specifically liked in the past.

I've experienced this once or twice with anime - specifically ones that I really enjoyed, the idea of experiencing them again and having them retroactively ruined or devalued means I don't watch them.

If what you enjoyed has little in the way of intrinsic value (i.e. enjoying it has extra benefits like exercising the mind or producing artefacts you take pride in) then if you're in full depression mode you'll need extra motivation to attempt it.

In some cases, getting back into the habit is just a case of perseverance, but it's not guaranteed.

[–]  No.299425

I find it difficult to relate to your particular fear.

In general, if something seems like an irrational fear, i'd advise to really deeply consider if it is actually irrational. Try to make a clear-cut judgement. If it still seems irrational then you should try to overcome it by intentionally confronting it. That is, to simply do the feared activities for a while until you know you aren't hindered by it. If you still feel the fear but you have proved to yourself that you are in control of it then its fine, you just have to accept the feeling



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[–]  No.296143[Reply][Watch Thread]

what does he want from us?
why is he torturing us?
why does he give great amount of suffering and horror to poor believers while giving happiness and wealth to evil disbelieving people?
why is he so careless?
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>>296325
do not attribute partners to GOD by associating the messiah as he is a messenger of GOD the Almighty all praise to him!

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>>299367
I doubt someone capable of creating entire universes gives a shit about obscure posts on obscure imageboards.

[–]  No.299405

>>299403
he is witness to everything why not pray to him and ask him for anything?

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>>299403
read the quran the only book uncorrupted

[–]  No.299407

>>299406
Only a dumb western convert would use that language. Normal muslims call him with the arabic name Allah.
Also they don't say "all praise to him", they say peace be upon him and only refer to his messenger.

Man, I'm not even religious and I know the Qur'an and Bible better than those thumpers.



[–]  No.299336[Reply][Watch Thread]

Since last year's December, I have discovered that you can just keep lying on the bed and enter a weird stage where you're neither asleep nor awake. It's crazy as it feels like what substance abusing would feel like although I have never even touched alcohol, weed, or even cigs let alone hard drugs

And bed rotting is crazy addictive. Time flies so quickly it's unbelievable. I spend most of my day lying in the bed, and I have gotten so skinny fat it is simply unbelievable, I am a mere 160cm tall ethnicel but I weigh a massive 150 pounds. My body looks so ugly that even my mama doesn't love me.

Has anybody else experiences this where you're at a prolonged stage of not being asleep and not being awake but in a weird in-between because of the comfyness of bed?
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[–]  No.299394

>>299388
same
if i didnt have to work, if my backwards country had neetbux, id happily rot for the rest of my life

[–]  No.299395>>299399

i tried it for some 50 minutes and i got to the point where i could see colored blobs rythmically expanding and contracting, but i stopped due to impatience and boredom
will keep trying

[–]  No.299399>>299400

>>299395
>colored blobs rythmically expanding and contracting
black and purplish / dark red ?

[–]  No.299400>>299401

>>299399
yeah, was that close?

[–]  No.299401

>>299400
idk but I never experienced what OP did, so I think it's just ordinary eye glitches or something



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[–]  No.296511[Reply]>>299387[Watch Thread]

This is the classic "suicide general", where we discuss methods and say farewell to our fellow wizards, quite different from that other thread in the catalog.

I'm currently 26, almost 27 (rings a bell?). And I can't take it anymore. I will soon depart from life through hanging. I haven't done it yet because I live in a shithole and there are always people around making noise and being nosy. I will just wait till it's very quiet so I can go to the woods and end this miserable existence.

I don't care if it might "get better". Existence itself is a curse and we're all gonna die anyway. I've read enough pessimist books and life affirming books and I side with the former. I don't need your compansion, because the thought that I will soon disappear is the only thing that makes me happy. I'm not even sad because of this.
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[–]  No.298453

Recently, I turned 27 years old, I have many chronic diseases and other problems, I have no money or income, I live at the expense of my parents, I have no education and other things. I'm NEET! Recently I went to the doctor who said that I have every chance of becoming a 30 disabled person, rheumatoid arthritis, but I have no money for treatment to check this disease. An old sick mother who drags me. I am so tired of it that my life will always make me suffer. I want to do what I had to do for a long time. I’m not afraid or I'm not sad, I don’t care that I'm tired of all this, I'm going to do it on the handle of the house. Of course, I will delete all the information and burn my perspiration and other things .. We are wizards from birth in shit, and we must understand that many of us lost when we were born. I am going to draw up a small work plan that I want to do before leaving (although I have no money). I would very much like to do it to the music and just fall asleep on forever, but in my country I can’t get a medication. Although I will listen with pleasure how to do it more correctly on my door, I think to use a belt.

[–]  No.298454

32 yr old wizzie looking to check out.

It gets worse for me every passing year now that I've crossed into my 30's.

[–]  No.299387

>>296511 (OP)
what are the most efficient things to suspend the rope from when you're hanging yourself? I've been struggling to find anything and there aren't any forests near me. guns are illegal in my country and I don't know how to get drugs. I can't take it anymore I just want to die and never see my ugly self again

[–]  No.299389

>>298449
>you might be counted among the crowd of world-weary croakers who suddenly regret their resignation in its finality.
They weren't suicidal in the first place. They were doing it as a cry for help.

[–]  No.299393

>>298449
Why does it matter? It doesn't. Survival instincts mess with the brain in all kinds of ways, but it's just another evolutionary biological reaction



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