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I was rereading the original run of The Avengers to keep boredom at bay, and yet again I'm impressed by John Buscema's artwork. I checked his wiki page and there's this passage in there:
"Buscema's passion for drawing was such that he continued to draw and sketch in his spare time, often on the back of comic book art pages, and these images form a considerable body of work in their own right. His brother Sal Buscema recalled,

This guy used to eat, sleep and breathe drawing. It didn't matter what was going on around him. He would get bored with it and start sketching. … He just couldn't stop drawing. [His back-of-board sketches were] better than some of the stuff that he did on the front. … He'd get a spark of inspiration and turn the page over and draw whatever was in his skull"

How nice it must be to have such passion and drive for something.

>>323907
It wouldn't surprise me if most of the well-known Golden Age comic book artists were like that.

>>323868
Indians will be reconstructing the broken patches here
Easy for them to blend in Canaan (same ancestors)

>>323868
Strictly with the relevant parts of Belt & Road
Basically, the parts that will have increasing relevancy.

>>323872
I'll go over it one last time.

Project Status

2027-2034-2048

Restoration of former Chinese lands


1. Yuan, Tang and Qing dynasties in the modern world.

(a) Returning Mongolia to China
(b) Returning Taiwan to China
(c) Returning Outer Heilongjiang/Outer Manchuria and Sakhalin
(d) Return Ladakh and Kashmir to China
(e) Return Lake Baikal and the territory slightly north as dictated by the Yuan Dynasty to China
(f) Return Arunachal Pradesh and the region slightly south of it to China
(g) Return Sikkim to China or else see (2)
(h) Return Afghanistan to China
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>>323904
7. Work
1. Developing the unified Korea
2aa. Developing Outer Mongolia \ all included restored locales \ China
2ab. Most important area for Chinese trains: Xizang / Xinjiang \ Yunnan / Guangxi \ Heilongjiang / Jilin & Liaoning
Xizang -> Access to Bhutan -> New Nation from North East India -> Zone 3A
Xinjiang -> Access to Zone 4 & 5
Yunnan -> Access to Zone 3B
Guangxi -> Zone 3B lead: Vietnam
Heilongjiang -> Restored Heartland -> Economic Zone 永明城 -> Sakhalin (Taiwan of Heilongjiang 'Outer North East' #2)
Jilin & Liaoning -> Korea to 永明城 & Sakhalin ( Soon to be a popular tourist spot once developed by China ) & Korea to 3rd Korea


2b. Developing Greater Persia ( After 20~ years of destruction and sanctions )
3. Continuing construction on trains \ rail in other zones
4. In consequence to all the above: managing the logistics / people / etc

8. Turmoil in Ukraine

1a. The importance of the Great Ukrainian Exodus (Displacement will continue until there is at most 200 Ukrainians in Ukraine)
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>>323904
>I'll go over it one last time.
Yes, please, let this be your last post in these threads. Whatever Sid Meier game you're playing with MS Paint, nobody cares.

>>323875
I looked at their website and they indeed are a rare case of a fast food company not using seed oils.
This does not really change the fact this is uncommon and if you go to a random fast food place like McDonalds or Five Guys you almost always get served vegetable oil fries.

>>323876
>And to think it all started with the plow. One technological development suddenly required chaining and beating buffalo to drag this device, turning them into an entirely different animal.

if humans weren't addicted to live above their means, they wouldn't have to enslave all the other creatures.

domestication of the dog i believe to be another mistake. dogs have ruined humans, made them boring and industrious team players like they are. riding horses was also a mistake.

to counteract similar ambitions in myself i prefer to buy groceries on foot and carry them in a backpack and not some wheeled vehicle that will just make me weak and lazy. at least this little part i can control i will make sure not to repeat humanity's mistake and finally learning from it.

>Then our belief systems changed with it, from living in some form of forced-harmony (due to a lack of influence over our environment) to nature and its residents being part of our dominion. And from there on we just got better and better at exploiting and ravaging the natural world, dividing it into what is useful to us and what can be exterminated.

economical thinking (which is just a collective form of living above the means) created a system that rewards the utility maximizers, which i believe the world would be much better without.

>Modern human existence is, for the most part, a blight on the world.

yeah.

>While we reap the benefits of our progenitors' lack of responsibility we will also pay for their hubris in thinking man may enslave nature in perpetuity without some kind of reckoning.

thas rite.

>>323883
That image in response made me chuckle.
>if humans weren't addicted to live above their means, they wouldn't have to enslave all the other creatures.
That's how I saw this for a long time as well but I heard someone explain this "metacrisis" as a bunch of prisoner's dilemmas / multipolar traps essentially. Let's say people like us are a tribe and we do our best to live simply and in as much harmony with nature as we can manage, so maybe hunter-gatherer plus what little agri/horticulture can be managed without animal husbandry. As soon as any other tribe begins to engage in agriculture and so on, they will radically increase their population, manage to specialize, increase their offensive technology and so on. Basically everyone else now is forced to also engage in these actions if they want to survive against this other tribe. Of course this leads to a race to the bottom type dynamic where the state of the whole gets much worse due to the increasing burden on the natural world, conflict between tribes and so on, yet nobody feels like they can afford to not use these new technologies, otherwise they will get destroyed by those that do. And dynamic applies in all aspects of life and the ratchet-effect-worsening of things year after year.
The issue is that those people who want such power and are good at acquiring it are usually the kinds of psycho- and sociopaths who should least have it, yet they are the ones driving the larger changes in the system due to the mechanism above.

Like you I try to do small acts of intentionally limiting myself, consciously going against this constant propaganda to consume more, be more comfortable, not think about any of these issues and so on. I'm quitting coffee for instance, since I don't live in a place where it grows naturally and habitually drinking something that requires multi-continental supply chains is no longer something I want to engage in, no matter how normalized it is in industrialized nations. I'm doing similar things with the rest of my diet as well.

>>323884
>a race to the bottom type dynamic where the state of the whole gets much worse due to the increasing burden on the natural world, conflict between tribes and so on, yet nobody feels like they can afford to not use these new technologies, otherwise they will get destroyed by those that do.

yeah this is why we can't have nice things, maybe this would change once people realize that every form of technology is automatically a weapon but this would require responsibility and responsibility is the thing people built weapons for in order to avoid it.

race to the bottom sounds like an awesome name for a band or a podcast.

it is quite difficult to carve out a little space to survive while the race is happening indeed. when keeping in mind what you just succeeded in expressing, everything that is worth capturing will eventually be part of the corrupting efforts of competing groups which is why human progress can only happen in the realm of maximum insignificance. as soon as you get popular, some group tries to turn you into fodder for the cannon. the difficulty of the age in which people refuse to understand that competition is the problem (and not the solution) is to remain underneath the threshold of detection as to avoid otherwise inevitable corruption.

>And dynamic applies in all aspects of life and the ratchet-effect-worsening of things year after year.

it is quite challenging trying to keep up with the rate at which things are enshittifying through self-sufficiency but what else is there.

>The issue is that those people who want such power and are good at acquiring it are usually the kinds of psycho- and sociopaths who should least have it, yet they are the ones driving the larger changes in the system due to the mechanism above.

thas rite tell em!

>Like you I try to do small acts of intentionally limiting myself, consciously going against this constant propaganda to consume more, be more comfortable, not think about any of these issues and so on.

i am sure this will put you on a positive trajectory. this way of life kept me from becoming one of these people who regret their entire life and get out of shape and depressed and look way older. i still looPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>323635
what is more surprising there isn't any relevant information on what each foodstuff does to the body compiled already
no current research either
all you can find in medical papers is nutrient x correlates with condition y
last significant discovery in nutritional science was the discovery of the vitamins in the early 20th century
even worse the info out there is full of misinformation with people trying to shill a product

I wear the cheapest clothing from discount clothing shops but I always buy new and regularly. I am a neet with little money.
I think the most entry-level rule for dressing well is making sure your clothing fits properly, not too loose or too tight.
Wizcore is hard to define, some wizards are neet, homeless, wagecuck, etc

>>323644
I considered purchasing a Lazy Town Hawaiian shirt exclusive to Brazil. IYKYK

Typically as most of us don't leave the house, I would put on whatever is available or else discounted clothes are my go to, or if you don't have anything order them on Amazon.

I wear a shirt and a jogging, I dont care about good looking clothing as I am a friendless neet.

>>323643
Loose-ish fitting, comfortable pants, usually cargo or similar. Grey tees that I bought in bulk a few years ago. Whatever flannel shirts or zip hoodies I found second hand. So fairly unremarkable, I mainly just want to be comfortable while also not wearing sweats outside.

>>322542
You bring a lot of good points here. The issue with non-offending paedophiles, lolicons, people that dwell within and along the margin of society and even the ungrateful NEETs (if you are aware of your situation then this does not apply to you as I am also a NEET, just not ungrateful) is that they do not understand that there must be some strict moral and law code in their countries and of course with the majority of populaces abiding by it so that they can live peacefully and with stability; For such status and standards of living that they have could only have come to fruition by the consequences of the deeds that were produced under such rules. Were it not to be so strict, we would have Brazil or other countries in South America that are ruled by kleptocracies and ruined in lawlessness and poverty due to the ubiquitous moral inversion and chaotic hopeless environment that it brings in every facet of society. Of course I do not expect to come here and see first-worlders being aware of something so simple and taken for granted given that they live in countries that have been, in the past, subjected to extreme conduct enforcing aristocracies wherein the people that broke the law or displayed any characteristic of antisociality were brutally killed off in state-sanctioned hangings, beheadings and burnings at stake; Those being the types of death penalties that were in activity for an extensive period of time before anti-being characteristics were rid of for good, whether it might be due to the display and kind of message that such lawful brutality instills unto the people or even the 'intergenerational trauma' that was cut off and so no longer perpetuated for there were the endings of such lines of blood. I hope that anyone that reads this can also take a time to reflect upon how different and barbaric the brown hordes of immigrants called refugees that are invading Europe are, you might think of that whenever you see a video or news of some little succubus being raped to death or stabbed violently merely by existing by such beings 'of light' that are there, and it might also be the reminder that getting rid of the development of a conscience by burying or inverting the ancient teachings of what is good or bad and the differences of each that they have achieved the Frankist end-goal of demoralization and degeneracy of Biblical proportions worldwide.

I wish I could quit being a lolicon.
It's a mental burden for sure.
Shame… shame… shame…

>>320237
>i myself haven't fapped to lolis in 19 days
update
i fully gave in not too long after and have been fapping 1-3 times per day since then
what's the point if all you can think about throughout the day is loliloliloli?
it's not worth it

>>323896
Rip. I don't even think I'm supposed to be like this by default it's just you know… like drugs I guess? (Never done them aside from alcohol.)
I used jerking off as a distraction from life and eventually seeking "harder" stuff for a greater high or just to maintain what used to be…
Now normal stuff can't help cope anymore so… back again.
It's not on my mind all day though thankfully.
It's fucked.

>>323839
>i reject the normoid idea that the body can not think or have an opinion
Organisms without a brain do not really seem conscious to me. I don't think plants, fungi, invertebrates think or have opinions. Further animals with consciousness like cats, while they have consciousness are not intelligent and don't have any more complex thinking than "in this place I can find food" or "I like this human".
Your post reminds me of this untrue belief plants and flowers can feel things and are self-aware, while any significant consciousness starts at animals with a small brain like mice and birds.
>i take good care of my body and i love it. it has been so good to me and i always give it enough sleep and put good food in and exercise it and then when i am doing something, it is so accomodating, supportive and helpful. i can not help but suspect it knows me and happily helps me through life
I think what goes wrong here you are simply able to feel your body with your central nervous system, and somehow you anthropomorphise these sensations in a person which is not you, while you are simply feeling pain or pleasure, illness or health

>>323874
>I think what goes wrong here you are simply able to feel your body with your central nervous system, and somehow you anthropomorphise these sensations in a person which is not you, while you are simply feeling pain or pleasure, illness or health

what you dismiss as mere personification of the body rests upon the fact that i am basically software that is running my body. i am an operating system that runs the conscious voluntary part of this biological machine. you could replace me with the operating system of someone who lived 500 years ago and then it would not be me running this body, the body could function though.

however this perspective i am thus humoring assumes that i am not the ultimate best answer to the question "who should run this body, what should be his abilities, priorities" and i am wondering if i might be. i may have been grown to be the best possible operator of this machine because the consciousness of this machine (that you are in denial of) groomed me to address problems that occured in previous iterations of the machine. i have solved the problems that limited my father, i figgured stuff out by learning from him. he did the same, he improved upon what his father did. i suspect this process has been going for a while.

i have to go afk, i still wanted to adress the first part of your post.

>>323874
>Organisms without a brain do not really seem conscious to me.

assuming you are correct and the body is not conscious then explain to me how the body knows when a good moment to poop is and when there isn't. when it is the worst time to poop, the body pauses until a better moment arrives. this is stuff the body is running in the background but it is running it so good that it can coordinate with your schedule. if now is a bad time to poop, your body understands that and my question is how. i assume it reads your emotions and the information you collect with your senses. does that not sufficiently represent a form of consciousness? your digestion knows what is happening in your life enough so it knows when to poop. do you know your digestion enough to know what to eat? because if you don't then i could argue your digestion not even IS conscious but is even MORE conscious then you are.


>I don't think plants, fungi, invertebrates think or have opinions.

i heard trees coordinate their airspace so that other trees are not in competition with each other for sun and rain. some say they communicate and share resources with each other. i have not looked into it too deeply but this is what i would expect of something that is alive and unable to move.

ants are an empire.

fungi have their own internet.


>Further animals with consciousness like cats, while they have consciousness are not intelligent and don't have any more complex thinking than "in this place I can find food" or "I like this human".

i think you are not privy to a lot of information that would lead you to believe otherwise. i think cat's live a crazy life, they are strong, dangerous with impressive movement ability and sense perception but they also have the worst digestive load. they have to digest flesh which requires strong acid and a lot of time. i am so thankful to have my digestion and not that of a cat.

>Your post reminds me of this untrue belief plants and flowers can feel things and are self-aware, while any significant consciousness starts at animals with a small brain like mice and birds.
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>>323878
I don't see how this post refutes my argument or advances your own.
When something goes wrong or well in your body your nerves connected to it create these pleasant or unpleasant sensations. You somehow claim there is something intelligent hidden behind hunger or pain while it's just blood sugar dropping, nerves picking this up, and sending this info to the more voluntary part of your nervous system.

i wish death were eternal nothingness
that would be the greatest mercy

Sorry this is too much for my brain. Maybe use simpler words so I can understand

>>323885
>Sorry this is too much for my brain. Maybe use simpler words so I can understand, also i am enjoying all the excitement of this wrestling match, i am glad i decided to attend!

human attention; the thing youtube says it sells to advertisers when you ask the company behind it how it got all the money…

is human attention worth more today or worth less today when you compare it to 5 years ago?

when you try to use money as a measure to answer this, you will get two numbers and i expect one to be higher then the other. but this might not be wise to do because just because something costs more money, it does not mean it is more valuable. that difference might be measuring nothing but unimportant predictable boring waves inside the ocean that is the monetary system and not represent any actual value whatsoever.

>>323886
I wont write your school dissertation sorry pal

>>323890
>I wont write your school

thinking there would be a school that would encourage children to question money reveals how little you understand about both school and money. schools teach children to depend on money and equate it with value.

>>323892
There's probably at least one school like that out there

As for the school in general you're talking about plenty of them are going to have their students do a little critical analysis to get it out of their system before they embrace the neoliberal consensus

>>323167
CAPITALISM IS THE BEST
>also
COMMUNISM IS THE WORST

>>323167
fascism is the way tho

>>323855
Fascism is a war ideology. Why would you want war?

>>323862
>why
because war is inevitable
too many people etc

>>323888
Death is inevitable. Do you want death ?

currently using a battery powered blender. it can hold 650ml of stuff and blend like 10 times on a charge. recharges via usb-c.

i thought i would be using this to make smoothies on the go, which i do but more often then that, i use it to liquify a lemon in water. it is so easy. just peel the lemon, throw it in, add some ginger, fill with water, brrrrrr, done.

used this to consume about 3-4 lemons a day.

it was a mistake to even begin hoarding kitchen equipment. pots, pans, bowls, plates, it is all garbage. if i could do it over, all i would get was this little thingy, 2 cuttingboards and 2 a medium sized knife and a small knife.

I have awful habits, I eat snack foods like chocolate and consume nicotine products. Persistent attempts to change this all have failed.
Don't be like me wizards.

>>323831
You can probably buy nicotine chocolate to knock your two bad habits down to one on a technicality.

>>323831
>Persistent attempts to change this all have failed.

is nice that you try. took me a while to get there, i hope you still have a few attempts left in you.

>>323832
>You can probably buy nicotine chocolate to knock your two bad habits down to one on a technicality.

-_-

chocolate is a particularly unfortunate thing to buy. i buy raw cocoa powder and mix it into smoothies.

nicotine i don't have that much experience with but i do know that if you smoke to get it, it is likely to cause problems.

>>323832
nicotine chocolate doesn't exist,
chocolate-flavoured nicotine products do however

I already suffer from hearing voices so I can't try it.
But even if I could, I don't think I would, the one stoner I knew complained about weed making him dumb and forgetful all the time.

>>323632
>I already suffer from hearing voices so I can't try it.
why do they make you suffer, is it because they insult your hair? probably.

>But even if I could, I don't think I would, the one stoner I knew complained about weed making him dumb and forgetful all the time.

how often did he do it. there is no need to become one of the people who when they try something and they like it, they make it their everything and build an identity around it.

you know you can smoke a tiny doobert smaller then a cigarette once a month, sit on your bed and meditate or walk through nature and not have it negatively impact you.

if you do it more often then once a month i wouldn't smoke it because the smoke is horrible for your health even if you inhale through a filter with the utmost care and gentleness. (i tried). rather bake some weed in the oven gently and then gently simmer it inside a pan of coconut oil for 3 hours so you can just eat a spoon of the oil instead of smoking it.

Smoking weed, daily, is very bad for you, now if you smoke ocasionally there isn't much problem. Point is: avoid becoming a pot head because makes you literally retarded on the long run.

>>323636
The voices are extremely unpleasant and I already hallucinate stuff sometimes. It's well known among schizophrenics weed makes this dramatically worse.
The stoner didn't really build an identity around it but hearing his complaints really convinced me this isn't a fun drug

>>323642
There's no convincing evidence showing a casual relationship between weed and long term IQ/cognitive decline. If you use weed heavily you'll be slower but it reverses with abstinence, similar to getting rest after chronic sleep deprivation. Studies showing IQ loss are confounded by those who use weed also being more likely to be cognitively impaired or low SES to begin with.