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 No.322610[Reply]

happy new year and all of that.

treat yourself to some sesame paste if you never head any. i regret learning about this so late, i can't help but want to warn others on not missing out on this goodness. it is just one ingredient crushed industrially into paste: sesame seeds.

when you buy it in the store it is separated and the separation is strong. when you stick a spoon in and try to stir, the bottom is so strong that the spoon can not stir. and you have to shake it and keep it in a shook state.

the sesame paste hides behind a bit of effort but the reward is worth the extra work.

the taste is amazing. mild and nutty. the nice thing about this is that it has a high fat content but it is not as impossible to digest as oil is. it still has it's fiber.

i use this to make sauces without oil. i just put tomatos and herbs into a blender and then i add a few tablespoons of this stuff and it turns into a nice creamy sauce but a sauce that the human organism has the chance to actually digest reasonably.

this stuff is so good, i wonder why it is not sold in regular supermarkets, i bother to go to the muslim markets just to get this goodness.
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 No.323879

>>323875
I looked at their website and they indeed are a rare case of a fast food company not using seed oils.
This does not really change the fact this is uncommon and if you go to a random fast food place like McDonalds or Five Guys you almost always get served vegetable oil fries.

 No.323883

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>>323876
>And to think it all started with the plow. One technological development suddenly required chaining and beating buffalo to drag this device, turning them into an entirely different animal.

if humans weren't addicted to live above their means, they wouldn't have to enslave all the other creatures.

domestication of the dog i believe to be another mistake. dogs have ruined humans, made them boring and industrious team players like they are. riding horses was also a mistake.

to counteract similar ambitions in myself i prefer to buy groceries on foot and carry them in a backpack and not some wheeled vehicle that will just make me weak and lazy. at least this little part i can control i will make sure not to repeat humanity's mistake and finally learning from it.

>Then our belief systems changed with it, from living in some form of forced-harmony (due to a lack of influence over our environment) to nature and its residents being part of our dominion. And from there on we just got better and better at exploiting and ravaging the natural world, dividing it into what is useful to us and what can be exterminated.


economical thinking (which is just a collective form of living above the means) created a system that rewards the utility maximizers, which i believe the world would be much better without.

>Modern human existence is, for the most part, a blight on the world.


yeah.

>While we reap the benefits of our progenitors' lack of responsibility we will also pay for their hubris in thinking man may enslave nature in perpetuity without some kind of reckoning.


thas rite.

 No.323884

>>323883
That image in response made me chuckle.
>if humans weren't addicted to live above their means, they wouldn't have to enslave all the other creatures.
That's how I saw this for a long time as well but I heard someone explain this "metacrisis" as a bunch of prisoner's dilemmas / multipolar traps essentially. Let's say people like us are a tribe and we do our best to live simply and in as much harmony with nature as we can manage, so maybe hunter-gatherer plus what little agri/horticulture can be managed without animal husbandry. As soon as any other tribe begins to engage in agriculture and so on, they will radically increase their population, manage to specialize, increase their offensive technology and so on. Basically everyone else now is forced to also engage in these actions if they want to survive against this other tribe. Of course this leads to a race to the bottom type dynamic where the state of the whole gets much worse due to the increasing burden on the natural world, conflict between tribes and so on, yet nobody feels like they can afford to not use these new technologies, otherwise they will get destroyed by those that do. And dynamic applies in all aspects of life and the ratchet-effect-worsening of things year after year.
The issue is that those people who want such power and are good at acquiring it are usually the kinds of psycho- and sociopaths who should least have it, yet they are the ones driving the larger changes in the system due to the mechanism above.

Like you I try to do small acts of intentionally limiting myself, consciously going against this constant propaganda to consume more, be more comfortable, not think about any of these issues and so on. I'm quitting coffee for instance, since I don't live in a place where it grows naturally and habitually drinking something that requires multi-continental supply chains is no longer something I want to engage in, no matter how normalized it is in industrialized nations. I'm doing similar things with the rest of my diet as well.

 No.323889

>>323884
>a race to the bottom type dynamic where the state of the whole gets much worse due to the increasing burden on the natural world, conflict between tribes and so on, yet nobody feels like they can afford to not use these new technologies, otherwise they will get destroyed by those that do.

yeah this is why we can't have nice things, maybe this would change once people realize that every form of technology is automatically a weapon but this would require responsibility and responsibility is the thing people built weapons for in order to avoid it.

race to the bottom sounds like an awesome name for a band or a podcast.

it is quite difficult to carve out a little space to survive while the race is happening indeed. when keeping in mind what you just succeeded in expressing, everything that is worth capturing will eventually be part of the corrupting efforts of competing groups which is why human progress can only happen in the realm of maximum insignificance. as soon as you get popular, some group tries to turn you into fodder for the cannon. the difficulty of the age in which people refuse to understand that competition is the problem (and not the solution) is to remain underneath the threshold of detection as to avoid otherwise inevitable corruption.

>And dynamic applies in all aspects of life and the ratchet-effect-worsening of things year after year.


it is quite challenging trying to keep up with the rate at which things are enshittifying through self-sufficiency but what else is there.

>The issue is that those people who want such power and are good at acquiring it are usually the kinds of psycho- and sociopaths who should least have it, yet they are the ones driving the larger changes in the system due to the mechanism above.


thas rite tell em!

>Like you I try to do small acts of intentionally limiting myself, consciously going against this constant propaganda to consume more, be more comfortable, not think about any of these issues and so on.


i am sure this will put you on a positive trajectory. this way of life kept me from becoming one of these people who regret their entire life and get out of shape and depressed and look way older. i still looPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.323903

>>323635
what is more surprising there isn't any relevant information on what each foodstuff does to the body compiled already
no current research either
all you can find in medical papers is nutrient x correlates with condition y
last significant discovery in nutritional science was the discovery of the vitamins in the early 20th century
even worse the info out there is full of misinformation with people trying to shill a product



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 No.323643[Reply]

what wizzies wear? I usually dress like I'm fifteen even if I'm almost 30. and I buy clothes every 4 years or so. I'm not fashonable nor do I care for clothes, I don't know how to dress well. Sometimes theres clothes I'd like to buy but they're often expensive has hell (I found a jacket like pic related (without the retard yellow thing printed on it) and it's 300 bucks on ebay).
I also wanted to buy a wizards shirt with this especially wizard logo but couldn't find anywhere
If you have some websites that sell cool clothes for wizards, share it!
What could be the wizard clothes set/ wizcore clothes?
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 No.323717

I wear the cheapest clothing from discount clothing shops but I always buy new and regularly. I am a neet with little money.
I think the most entry-level rule for dressing well is making sure your clothing fits properly, not too loose or too tight.
Wizcore is hard to define, some wizards are neet, homeless, wagecuck, etc

 No.323823

>>323644
I considered purchasing a Lazy Town Hawaiian shirt exclusive to Brazil. IYKYK

 No.323899

Typically as most of us don't leave the house, I would put on whatever is available or else discounted clothes are my go to, or if you don't have anything order them on Amazon.

 No.323900

I wear a shirt and a jogging, I dont care about good looking clothing as I am a friendless neet.

 No.323902

>>323643
Loose-ish fitting, comfortable pants, usually cargo or similar. Grey tees that I bought in bulk a few years ago. Whatever flannel shirts or zip hoodies I found second hand. So fairly unremarkable, I mainly just want to be comfortable while also not wearing sweats outside.



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 No.304279[Reply]

There's no meaning of existing when you can't be what you want. I wish I could live in a world where I am the main and where people would respect me or care about me. If I don't live in this world, I should die.
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 No.304304

>>304299
>the only thing that gives life meaning is strong emotional experiences
nope, just hedonistic cope.

 No.304311

>>304282
>Are you the guy who only wants to do math and draw?
Nope
I liked to draw as kid but now no. I studied some piano and music theory but i abandoned it.
I like to read but i have too much digital hobbies, maybe i need more non-computer related.

 No.305550

>>304292
>I want to be a natural blonde and blue-eyed person with paler skin, from a Germanic tribe, and mainly from a 1st world country.

for what purpose?

 No.307992

>>304281
with such english you dont have to bother learning anything in the first place , go watch shoujo anime.

 No.307993

>>305550
To not feel like you're a net negative on the Earth



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 No.304408[Reply]

new internet of over 10 yrs now… is it me or there is nothing left to talk about?
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 No.307626

>>307624
>I guess because people can't afford to host anything now.

Nah, it's just easier to use existing services. Need a forum? Make a subreddit or Discord, it's free, takes seconds, everyone already has an account and it has all the moderation tools you need. Need a personal blog? X/Twitter will reach more people than you could hope to reach with your shitty SEO. Want an imageboard? You can make one for free on 8ch and you don't have to ruin your sleep over CP bots.

It sucks because there's no sense of discovery anymore, everything is ruled by AI algorithms that serve whatever they want or think you need.

 No.307677

>>307624
they wake up call was a while ago I installed NoScript as a means of making my web browsing more secure when I heard all of the remote executables you could launch with JavaScript. Now every fucking website is blank on a browser I run with NoScript. You gotta bend over and let your privacy be fucked just to watch silly videos. Now its getting worse where not only does everyone want you to make an account using a gmail, but they want your fucking phone number. Pretty soon they are gonna demand your credit card number and enable an autopay function by default just to have an account.

 No.307678

>>307677
>emote executables you could launch with JavaScript
You need to have those executables on your system, the script on the browser needs to know their exact path, and all modern browsers ask you to confirm before a script on the page can communicate with something on your system. If those executables communicate with the internet they need to have Windows give them a firewall entry which is asked upon the first time they're launched.
>You gotta bend over and let your privacy be fucked
How dare them allow you to use their website for free. The nerve of them to do so and require basic information about your browser required to give you a webpage that works. The absolute freaks they must be to not offer streaming HD content while accommodating some dork who purposely chips away at his browser functionality out of his misguided phobia about being datamined or something. You paranoid privacy shizos are the ones killing the internet.

 No.307679

>>307678
so lowbrow lol. time to reboot, you've got a windows 11 update is pending

 No.307990

I hate how everything's hobby-related online has become a dick measuring contest. People can't seem to have genuine interest in things without making it about views, clicks, or money.



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 No.303398[Reply]

The sole purpose of this post is to share the techniques and books I have accumulated over time to achieve relaxation and other things.
I have read about meditation, magic, ceremonial magic, chaotic and postmodern magic, anxiety therapies, and relaxation techniques. This thread is not a cure for all problems. I don't want to turn this into a blogspot, so feel free to ask whatever you want.
>Also
Remember that you can also search for the techniques I mention on the internet, on YouTube, or on WikiHow, where you can find help on how to perform these techniques and more tips.
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 No.307344

>>307343
sometimes i wonder about the power of it- is it from the retention itself (like chi or life force) or is it more of the act of discipline, like training yourself to hold your breath, you become more efficient at using oxygen in your body, you train past the pain (with sex the 'pain' would be that 'itch' drive force that produces urges etc)

Curious how practicitoners here utilize the practice. Do you have any conscious practice around it?

Doing some self-examination here… obviously i'm giving myself signs to quit and give myself a break at the very least to reset my libido… my spirituality has been really out of touch for months

 No.307362

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>>307344
I don't believe in chi or vitalistic ideas and all that stuff because I experiment with what I believe maybe and it seems to be hypnosis, beliefs, and mild altered states of consciousness.
Kinda materialistic approach if you see it like that way.
Maybe nofap, abstinence, and holding back make you more susceptible to suggestions/hypnosis.
Or maybe it opens you up to some kind of magic, I don't know, I have no idea.
Maybe it change something in your head, neurochemicals, i dont know, or maybe its just for discipline or sex control.
>Also
Right now I'm trying the 50-day challenge just to see what it's like. I did it last year, but I never actually had orgasms I just fapped without it. Basically, I was just “gooning” (I think Genesis P-Orridge recommended this method in one of his books or something lol), although there are several authors who replace the no fap no sex with something else that's just as bizarre in its own right related to sexual activity.
I dont know Wizard.

 No.307363

>>307362
that sounds like the eroto-comatose lucidity technique
how long were your sessions and did you reach an altered state of consciousness with them?

 No.307364

>>307363
>that sounds like the eroto-comatose lucidity technique
No, the gooning tech like p o-rridge maybe suggested is just fap without orgasm climax for 50 days or more.
The eroto-comosatose was more into total stimuly of all the senses, never tried it. But i remember reading somewhere that use abstinense to enchance pleasure sense.
>how long were your sessions and did you reach an altered state of consciousness with them?
I know its not the topic of the answer but sometimes i got a lot of focus and visualization just by focusing and feign having sex in my head in my bed. It even enchanced orgasm feeling so maybe the thing of visualization and acting was into it.
In a way is like playing before sex for succubus maybe. The focus exchance the orgasm and pleasure maybe.
In the Tibet the buddhist do something similar but with deities and visual power.

 No.307989

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>>307364
Guys, i was reading, i asked a AI about Semen-retention around 50 days (not Nofap, just semen-retention but same) around neurochemicals and brain etc and the AI cited me interesting articles that i lost now but look like nofap in a way enchance suggestionability based in a production of a neurochemical in head (ignoring the other good effects of taking a good healthy routine in 50 days) in the 50 days
>in 7 days get the peak testoterone (i tested this and i can confirm its true for my experience)

>after 7 maybe, the testoterone to the in a way middle or like Regression toward the mean


>after 14 or 17 days supposed get a light change in brain


>but after 50 days something change in a way reset and some neurochemical improves suggestibility


So… ignoring the Gooning Magical technique or the nofap technique for more pleasure later or even placebos and beliefs/bias, maybe the old pagan Greek philosopher, Chinese taoist/daoist, Roman philosophers, Vitalist, Victorian mages like Papus (this guys say this is the first thing to magic but 40 or 48 days i dont remember), Aleister Crowley and maybe Golden Dawn around abstinence, and Robert Anton Wilson around the secret of sex magic of 50 days in sexual abstinence and other modern ceremonial magicians etc maybe that's the secret
>what?
improves suggestibility based in reset of the brain and production of a neurochemical that improves suggestibility to self-hypnosis or rituals, like RAW book around sexual imprinting we are making a new opportunity to imprint one of the circuits? who knows? like a pavlov dog or a peak or trauma experience?
Maybe the AI have bias or i go full schizo but why no try? maybe its just a placebo but why not try?
>Also
Yeah, this is probably pseudoscience, but as I recall, the AI cited studies mentioned humans and the chemistry of sex, masturbation, and addictions, as well as animal experiments—which doesn’t exactly make it very credible but I still think there’s something odd about ceremonial magicians placing so much emphasis on 40, 48, or 50 days of sexual abstinence. anyone know same practice and days in chinese or oriental magesPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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 No.307971[Reply]

I know there’s nothing wrong with me. I’m perfect. I’m skinny, kind, and thoughtful. But the isolation from everyone around me has been getting to me. Nobody has ever put effort into me. I changed my style just to receive barely any compliments, then proceeded to get ignored by everyone. No whore has ever thought of me as a man. They’re gross creatures who look at me and think I’m homosexual. I’m not. Just because I look like a slut doesn’t mean I am one. Then I am being secluded for not being manly enough. other male seems to think of me as one of them either, shouldn’t I be given respect from my fellow peers and colleagues?
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 No.307984

>>307974
I’d never be a faggot, my face isn’t masculine enough. I would’ve killed myself if I was gay. That would be retarded to throw away a beautiful face.

 No.307985

that’s so cool, wiz
unfortunately i’m not as genetically blessed as you, even if only my wizmum would see it because i’m a shut-in neet
anyway, fuck what normalfags think of you

 No.307986

>>307973
That’s just how a true gentleman talks.

 No.307987

>>307979
My face isn’t masculine enough. That’s what I ment. Making perfection isn’t easy. It could be something as simple as a drink, it could be perfect but not what you asked for.

 No.307988

>>307985
Thank you, I appreciate your kindness. I’ll just ignore the other retards who think lowly of me.



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 No.307519[Reply]

i'm 37 (soon to be 38). watching as your body degrades in real time is debilitating. earthly life is evil in every aspect.
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 No.307967

>>307962
>I can't muster the energy to make things better for myself, so I'm going to try to bring other guys down by saying that it can't ever get better for them. I will call anyone who disagrees with me a bad-faith normie invader larper while gatekeeping against anyone who isn't mentally a 6 year old succubus
Your honesty is appreciated.

 No.307968

>>307962
im not rly trying to avocate improvement

i also don't think wallowing or self-destruction is the way either

maybe somewhere in between?

… acceptance and peace?

cus i'm with you, fuck trying to improve this; there is a limit and I can feel the threshold. I see it with my own eyes and know it within myself. It's no use.

I suggest abandoning all outdated neurotypical notions of happiness and redefine your own system from within. It's not gonna be the succubus or rising through corporate ladders and getting a nice car and house that does it for you. What even is "it" that you're so miserable about not having/doing/experiencing/feeling?

accept your sentence in this conscious existence. Maybe you're a loser and isolated in the old world you failed at. you failed and didn't you give up???
why are you still using the old system of measuring human success and worthiness and feeling bad about it?

I am getting sick and tired of my self pity.

 No.307970

>>307967
>acting as 13 years old succ
try to meditate

 No.307981

>>307519
>tism schizoid CPTSD suspected by some psychs, didnt stick around for a full diagnosis
>probably adhd
>severe tinnitus
>tendonitis in both hands, fingers, carpal tunnel, "tennis elbow"
>herniated discs in neck, thoracic spine and lumbar spine
>polyneuropathy as a result with frequent numbness
>eczema
>teeth fucked
>gastritis, ibs, hemorrhoids
>mystery liver pain, probably fat-fuck-syndrome

Only at level 30 so far. Wish I could slowly come to terms with the end like >>307521 mentions buddhism, but time and deaths closeness just drives my anxiety further.

I'll be honest and say one of the worst aspects of this is that there isn't anyone I can consider a nemesis or evildoer to avenge my lot or something.
Nobody to hate, can't even hate myself really. I consider myself a victim obviously, however lame and loserlike that is. Well I'm a loser so hey… it's in character.

Really though? I was already set on this path by the time I had any real "free will" or even cognition.
Ironically my first 4 memories are in order (all at age 2-3), me drowning, grandma dying, starving at home alone because my father wouldn't feed me and getting the shit beat out of me.
Further formative experiences ensued of course.
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 No.307991

>>307967
>There is always an option to improve your situation, things getting so bad it is beyond repair does not happen. All these wizards on /dep/ have the wrong idea and I must inform them.
I can not say I appreciate your honesty. I wish mods would just ban or at least warn posters like this.



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 No.323901[Reply]

No politics or religion in the crawl thread, please.

>Ambient sounds to wash away distraction

https://asoftmurmur.com/


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 No.307980[Reply]

Might just be one of the myriad of things from health issues to shit life syndrome, but I've been thinking maybe my small living space is affecting me.

Still live "at home" in a flat with my mom at 30, my room is 2.5m x 5m so 12.5 square meters. (134.549 ft²american)
With all the furniture I have a usable space of about 0.8m x 3m maybe, so less than 3sqm. (25.833 ft²)
Spend all day sitting at my desk anyways so whatever.

Been wondering if maybe this tiny space is part of the reason why I just don't do anything.
Do any of you have experience with living in a small space for a decade+?


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 No.307945[Reply]

I thought that at 44 years old this stuff wouldn't get at me anymore but I was wrong.

All those cute couples rollerblading. Young mothers pushing strollers and smiling. People laughing in the park. People playing soccer in the field. Everyone is so happy, so content with their lot in life. They are so well-adjusted to this life.

People talking in upbeat tones. Groups of people socializing, laughing, smiling.

Everywhere I went today it was like this.
Its amazing how easy life is when you are neurotypical. It's like everything falls into place without much struggle and effort. You are always pre-programmed to get the most out of life without having to do anything special to make it happen.
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 No.307952

That's what you see OUTSIDE

Then there is plenty of people suffering in hospital and prison, terminal patients bedbound, suicidal schizos, animals eaten alive, you just don't get to see them

This is why I miss websites like liveleak because they show the true face of the world

 No.307956

>>307945
>Everyone is so happy, so content with their lot in life.

What i'm hearing is you're not happy with your lot in life.

Are you missing rollerblading or pushing a stroller, or are you missing something that it represents?

Cus something we have to remember is not comparing our happiness to others. We don't have to be well-adjusted to someone else's mold, and our happiness can be a different shape and size and still be enough.

 No.307959

>>307956

Its the capacity to be happy and content that I lack due to my fucked up brain.

It's not depression. Its schizo.

 No.307961

>>307945
This is just a small visible percentage of social reality that mainly consists of well thought out, intentionally demonstrated „personal well being and a competition of showing to others how great and awesome (your) life is“. This is not representative of truth, it is an aspect of one part of reality and it has some biological evolutionary functions and it is not a bad thing per se but it’s not necessary to live a good life. Have you grown up in a family? Have you witnessed neurotypicals being in a bad mood, angry, sad etc.? In my family there was so much dispute and troubles but I always was silent one, the person who witnessed all the problems but never took part in these interactions. But even in public sometimes you can witness the stress and dispute families and other gatherings go through, I'm glad to not be part of that. People in public normally make a good job of hiding all the suffering, the imperfections, the socially incompatible side of life. In fact you can find solace in the insight that you don’t have to pretend, don’t have to act as if everything is great, you don’t have waste an ounce of energy to participate in this showcase of socially acceptable behavior. Mind you, a sub-percentage of the displayed behavior actually is people being happy without having to pretend. But don’t think this is permanent or the usual case. Most normier suffer because they have been part of this percentage of social reality and only then know what it’s like missing that, the work you have to put in to keep it going, the fear of losing touch, the knowledge of how fragile and often times dishonest, artificial, superficial this whole thing is. We have none of those worries. So that’s nice.

 No.307976

>>307956
He would probably be happier being wizuncle but has no one
>>307961
Not really fair because most people here probably grew up in lower socio-economic strata where the people around them were low-functioning e.g. no emotional intelligence



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 No.307210[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.

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 No.307957

>>307954
well, there's also the social aspect. people (read: normalfags) like to be included, even if they don't care about the activity at all to do it when they're alone. they might go play chess every weekend at a chess club just because they can socialize with their friends but they don't bother to actually study in their off-time. another sense of reward comes from curiosity and exploration, some people will go into caves just to see what's in them or go travel.

wizzies obviously don't get that kind of pleasure from socializing and we're home bodies, so we're only left with the dopamine hit from a sense of progression, dominating others and maybe if you're lucky, an intrinsic sense of curiosity for a subject. a wizzie might learn something just because it makes him feel smart and superior to others, or he might play a stupid idle game just because he wants to see number go up. pleasure from being good at something also gets a lot more amplified if other people recognize it, but wizzie rarely gets a chance to show off his talents.

 No.307963

>>307957
People who are genuinely interested in math are the luckiest SOBs on the planet. It's the perfect hobby. You can do it alone or with a group, it's free, has unlimited application, and it never runs dry.

I want to love math so bad. But you can't force yourself to love anything. It doesn't work that way

 No.307964

>>307963
typically you gravitate towards interest/lifestyle choices that create congruence between your internal/external worlds

so although you don't love math, maybe there's something else calling you?

If math is your only solace and it's not what you love… i think there's just something blocking you from it

 No.307965

>>307963
genuine interest in math is rare. even among the people that are good at math and study it or do it professionally, it's just a thing they have to do to succeed in their career path. genuine interest is when your mind wanders to it by default and it doesn't tire you out and you use every idle moment you have just thinking about it.

i do wonder if you could cultivate this. perhaps by meditating on math until you can reach some kind of perceptual frame where these patterns become incredibly enticing and compelling. by continually meditating on the question "what would it be like if i was obsessed with math" and trying to pin down the actual experience of it. the people that are genuinely interested in math see something that us regular mortals don't and all these tedious mathematical symbols and equations actually serve a purpose, they are useful tools for them that demystify burning questions and reveal deep secrets.

 No.307975

>>307964
I've always felt I should be into any number of things, but I'm not. The sense of intellectual duty/obligation makes it all a chore and dulls inquisitiveness/wonder. I'm supposed to like the idea of life, but I find I don't like life as it is presented to me at all. You don't choose your obsessions or your gifts to see if they line up. Phil Collins doesn't even like music.
>>307965
>i do wonder if you could cultivate this
You'll just hurt yourself doing something that was never meant for you.


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 No.54625[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Previous thread: >>25265
>The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy organizes scholars from around the world in philosophy and related disciplines to create and maintain an up-to-date reference work.
https://plato.stanford.edu/index.html
>List of unsolved problems in philosophy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_philosophy
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 No.70567

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I managed to read this, Letters from a Stoic by Seneca. He lived in the times of the New Testament.
I enjoyed reading this, there are useful tiny tidbits here and there which still hold up today. It's also fun if you are interested in the Romans.
This is also good if you have read that meme book by Marcus Aurelius (which I also did) and you still want to continue.

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>>54625
XNITY PRIMER
http://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1a-9eWjZWH-6uUOcRFJ4hFsgB2vOhdZZf
google drive easy to use interface
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this is philosophical

 No.70614

>>70612
>ChubbyPepe baby googoogaga tradcath inspirational softcover book list
>I'm a crusader, guys!

 No.70616

>>70612
it's religion, not philosophy

 No.70617

>>70616
In philosophy of religion, it is called classical theism.


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 No.306970[Reply]

I've seen this discussed in many threads so I made a thread for it. Many wizzies had had their life destroyed by psychiatric medication be it SSRI's, antipsychotics, benzodiazepines or others. A psych ward stay tends to leave you worse off. Some people get abused in psychiatric institutions. Mentioning you are sad and thinking about suicide to a doctor or nurse can get you forcefully restrained and tranquilised.
I'm suicidal but I avoid any medical help precisely for this reason.
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 No.307646

i think the clinic wants to see me locked up

 No.307834

>>307631
>but no matter how hard i tried online people just don't work to fill my void
I can relate to this. I still prefer being alone to being around normies though.

 No.307859

>>306970
I've read lots into psych stuff this is a fun lecture
https://youtu.be/Af5RSk6Bx-Y

The same thing actually applies for medicine in generally to a degree tbh.

If you look into stuff on your own there is some value to be gotten from it, if you understand what psychiatric disorders are. (Loose collections of symptoms categorized so they can do research on what treatments help them)
No psych drugs are even expected to actually fix anything, they simply lower the metrics in the symptoms.

There are some therapeutic techniques that do have very good improvement rates for certain things in terms of modern psychology, you have to look them up for what specific things you might be diagnosed with though (don't trust it just because a psych told you it, figure it out on your own, ai is helpful.)

Apart from that I greatly prefer jungian depth psychology stuff but hard to find anyone for that probably have to do it on your own.

One of the key things I'm annoyed is never talked about is the idea of transference. It's a per-requisite for most psychological stuff to work in terms of therapy. Depth psychologists talked about it more explicitly, but modern ones talk about it but just more academically.

Basically the precondition for therapy to work is seeing yourself as inferior to the therapist and basically inflating the idea of the therapist and even divinizing them to a degree, this is what lets the therapeutic relationship function and if you aren't willing to do that it will not.
No one ever told me this but I would not have bothered with trying it if I did. In depth psychology they talk about it in terms of as a beginning stage, but one that has to be ended. (Jung specifically says at a certain point more analysis/therapy is harmful). Modern ones don't have that and instead keep people in this perpetual infantile state so they can drain them of money.

Honestly you are better of for the most part trying to write down as best you can your life story, all your psychiatric issues and ask an AI to analyze it, provide differential diagnosis of what it could be. Then look into how to distinguish between those, then when you fPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.307932

>>307859
>they simply lower the metrics in the symptoms
I doubt this, studies often find no or negligable improvement rate in symptoms, most famously certain commonly used antidepressants actually increase suicide rates.

Rest of your post reads like "yeah it's all bullshit but there are a few nuggets here and there".

Your final advice is to diagnose and determine treatment yourself (with AI) which is specifically the role of the doctor or therapist and then seek help from the people who specifically fail to do this.

There is no way you can reasonably be expected to do all this to get help from the psych system, best to avoid it alltogether.

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>>307932
The aim of the treatments is lowering particular metrics, those metrics may not include suicide rates. For things like depression in order to market it as a anti-depression drug you would find some "Depression" metric there are a ton of tests you can take, then they test you before and after treatment and if the metric is lower it "worked". It's not all metrics, it's literally just determining one specific measure like a depression inventor like pic rel.

The purpose of a shrink is not a singular thing. If you are confident to a degree in what your symptoms are associated with there are treatements that don't require a psych (meditation/exercise, etc) and ones that do. Group therapy, specific forms of one on one therapy (schema therapy, cbt) guided exposure stuff, etc.

It is better not to see shrinks as like people with authority or responsibility, but more as tools.
Doing your own exposure therapy for example is hard to do, having a person who is aware of how it works to guide you through it is helpful. If you are aware for your condition certain group therapy procedures results in good outcomes, you can find one in your city to do that.

Doctors should be viewed as tools to be used in treatments, not as competent authorities on their own. If you view them that way they are fine, you just can't offload your own responsibility on to them. If you want to do that as I said I'd suggest depth psychology as they actually deal with that transference concept more directly.



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 No.300892[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

ok bros, i thought lolis were just a niche a topic that sweaty weebs get mad over when discussing it
but normalfags caught on and you really get in trouble when joking about it.
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>>322542
You bring a lot of good points here. The issue with non-offending paedophiles, lolicons, people that dwell within and along the margin of society and even the ungrateful NEETs (if you are aware of your situation then this does not apply to you as I am also a NEET, just not ungrateful) is that they do not understand that there must be some strict moral and law code in their countries and of course with the majority of populaces abiding by it so that they can live peacefully and with stability; For such status and standards of living that they have could only have come to fruition by the consequences of the deeds that were produced under such rules. Were it not to be so strict, we would have Brazil or other countries in South America that are ruled by kleptocracies and ruined in lawlessness and poverty due to the ubiquitous moral inversion and chaotic hopeless environment that it brings in every facet of society. Of course I do not expect to come here and see first-worlders being aware of something so simple and taken for granted given that they live in countries that have been, in the past, subjected to extreme conduct enforcing aristocracies wherein the people that broke the law or displayed any characteristic of antisociality were brutally killed off in state-sanctioned hangings, beheadings and burnings at stake; Those being the types of death penalties that were in activity for an extensive period of time before anti-being characteristics were rid of for good, whether it might be due to the display and kind of message that such lawful brutality instills unto the people or even the 'intergenerational trauma' that was cut off and so no longer perpetuated for there were the endings of such lines of blood. I hope that anyone that reads this can also take a time to reflect upon how different and barbaric the brown hordes of immigrants called refugees that are invading Europe are, you might think of that whenever you see a video or news of some little succubus being raped to death or stabbed violently merely by existing by such beings 'of light' that are there, and it might also be the reminder that getting rid of the development of a conscience by burying or inverting the ancient teachings of what is good or bad and the differences of each that they have achieved the Frankist end-goal of demoralization and degeneracy of Biblical proportions worldwide.

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>>44209
>The term is derived from “Lolita complex,” which itself traces back to Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov

 No.323887

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I wish I could quit being a lolicon.
It's a mental burden for sure.
Shame… shame… shame…

 No.323896

>>320237
>i myself haven't fapped to lolis in 19 days
update
i fully gave in not too long after and have been fapping 1-3 times per day since then
what's the point if all you can think about throughout the day is loliloliloli?
it's not worth it

 No.323897

>>323896
Rip. I don't even think I'm supposed to be like this by default it's just you know… like drugs I guess? (Never done them aside from alcohol.)
I used jerking off as a distraction from life and eventually seeking "harder" stuff for a greater high or just to maintain what used to be…
Now normal stuff can't help cope anymore so… back again.
It's not on my mind all day though thankfully.
It's fucked.


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All you need to begin drawing is a pencil and some paper

Feel free to post any drawings of yours in this thread. Illustration, doodle, traditional, digital - anything goes. Discussion on skillbuilding techniques and fair critique of other wizards' work is welcome.

Videos:

Tyler Edlin - https://www.youtube.com/user/TylerE2284
Proko - https://www.youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Sinix - https://www.youtube.com/user/sinixdesign
Scott Robertson - https://www.youtube.com/user/scottrobertsondesign
Matt Kohr (CtrlPaint) - https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library
Aaron Blaise - https://www.youtube.com/user/AaronBlaiseArt
Vilpu (Anatomy) - https://mega.nz/folder/9Pw1lYaS#Me7LSwlSg59lNGmkj9tt4w/folder/lPoXEYxS

Poses/Gestures
QuickPoses -https://www.quickposes.com/en
PoseSpace -https://www.posespace.com/posetool/default.aspx
https://x6ud.github.io/#/ Animal Head Reference Finder
https://anatomy360.info/anatomy-scan-reference-dump/

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 No.70561

>>70560
>We have all been to deviantart and seen how things pan out for people who buys into the "drawing from the imagination and developing skills through hands-on trial and error"
Yeah, we see them having fun and laughing with their fellow artists for years in spite of their skills. This argument is moot though because the reality is that most of DeviantArt's contributors are drawing with the help of books and references.
>The saying "drawing from reference is cheating" is a straight up lie
It's not drawing period. I didn't read any of your post beyond that. The witch (drawing) is a better contribution to the drawing thread than the cat (conversion of medium)

 No.70562

>>70561
So much seething and coping, also lying. Remember folks, the guy who takes hours to make a doodle witch, is they one telling you to not learn the fundamentals. Because he is a crab who wants your skill to remain on his level.
>I didn't read any of your post beyond that.
lies, how do i know?
>The witch (drawing) is a better contribution to the drawing thread than the cat (conversion of medium)
you got triggered by this line, didn't you?
>Your 2d cardboard witch clearly shows how good your mind is at rotating an apple.

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Here's some stuff I drew recently. I am taking a break today though because I managed to hurt my wrist drawing on a small tablet in bed for too long, and I made myself paranoid about developing some sort of injury. I realize it probably isn't productive at my level to be painting/coloring yet but it's too fun. There is something really appealing to me about the color palette of deep sea fish/siphonophores so I wanted to paint some of those. Also I was looking at some Jap Zbrush artists and was so entranced with how their models looked I copied them.

 No.70609

>>70586
My wrist still hurts and it's been a week. Fuck my life.

 No.70615

>>70586
>I realize it probably isn't productive at my level to be painting/coloring yet but it's too fun
Having fun is really the only point of drawing. If you're not having fun, then why bother?


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 No.323839[Reply]

what does your body 'think' about you?
>about your management of your personal human organism.
>about your decisions on what to put in it, or on it.
>about where you take it and when and how often.
>about how you use it

i reject the normoid idea that the body can not think or have an opinion. electricity flows into every cell, not just the bracrabls. life and emotion are all over the body except for in those people who believe their body is just a machine used to park the brain in front of screens.

i do think the body is it's own thing and ideally it is in a mutual loving relationship with the brain. i guess many group-minded people who know nothing but war will have a hostile relationship between body and brain.

i take good care of my body and i love it. it has been so good to me and i always give it enough sleep and put good food in and exercise it and then when i am doing something, it is so accomodating, supportive and helpful. i can not help but suspect it knows me and happily helps me through life. i am fully aware that this is not most people's experience. but it could be most people's experience.

the body has it's own path too and if a brain can understand the path the body tries to walk, decisions can be made to help the body along which then lead to benefits for the entire organism.

i guess i am trying to say the potential for harmony within the organism exists despite so few people stumbling upon it. i guess the obstacle in reaching this state is the corruption process that seeks to consume everyone. those who can see the corruption in others have an easier time dodging it.
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 No.323874

>>323839
>i reject the normoid idea that the body can not think or have an opinion
Organisms without a brain do not really seem conscious to me. I don't think plants, fungi, invertebrates think or have opinions. Further animals with consciousness like cats, while they have consciousness are not intelligent and don't have any more complex thinking than "in this place I can find food" or "I like this human".
Your post reminds me of this untrue belief plants and flowers can feel things and are self-aware, while any significant consciousness starts at animals with a small brain like mice and birds.
>i take good care of my body and i love it. it has been so good to me and i always give it enough sleep and put good food in and exercise it and then when i am doing something, it is so accomodating, supportive and helpful. i can not help but suspect it knows me and happily helps me through life
I think what goes wrong here you are simply able to feel your body with your central nervous system, and somehow you anthropomorphise these sensations in a person which is not you, while you are simply feeling pain or pleasure, illness or health

 No.323878

>>323874
>I think what goes wrong here you are simply able to feel your body with your central nervous system, and somehow you anthropomorphise these sensations in a person which is not you, while you are simply feeling pain or pleasure, illness or health

what you dismiss as mere personification of the body rests upon the fact that i am basically software that is running my body. i am an operating system that runs the conscious voluntary part of this biological machine. you could replace me with the operating system of someone who lived 500 years ago and then it would not be me running this body, the body could function though.

however this perspective i am thus humoring assumes that i am not the ultimate best answer to the question "who should run this body, what should be his abilities, priorities" and i am wondering if i might be. i may have been grown to be the best possible operator of this machine because the consciousness of this machine (that you are in denial of) groomed me to address problems that occured in previous iterations of the machine. i have solved the problems that limited my father, i figgured stuff out by learning from him. he did the same, he improved upon what his father did. i suspect this process has been going for a while.

i have to go afk, i still wanted to adress the first part of your post.

 No.323881

>>323874
>Organisms without a brain do not really seem conscious to me.

assuming you are correct and the body is not conscious then explain to me how the body knows when a good moment to poop is and when there isn't. when it is the worst time to poop, the body pauses until a better moment arrives. this is stuff the body is running in the background but it is running it so good that it can coordinate with your schedule. if now is a bad time to poop, your body understands that and my question is how. i assume it reads your emotions and the information you collect with your senses. does that not sufficiently represent a form of consciousness? your digestion knows what is happening in your life enough so it knows when to poop. do you know your digestion enough to know what to eat? because if you don't then i could argue your digestion not even IS conscious but is even MORE conscious then you are.


>I don't think plants, fungi, invertebrates think or have opinions.


i heard trees coordinate their airspace so that other trees are not in competition with each other for sun and rain. some say they communicate and share resources with each other. i have not looked into it too deeply but this is what i would expect of something that is alive and unable to move.

ants are an empire.

fungi have their own internet.


>Further animals with consciousness like cats, while they have consciousness are not intelligent and don't have any more complex thinking than "in this place I can find food" or "I like this human".


i think you are not privy to a lot of information that would lead you to believe otherwise. i think cat's live a crazy life, they are strong, dangerous with impressive movement ability and sense perception but they also have the worst digestive load. they have to digest flesh which requires strong acid and a lot of time. i am so thankful to have my digestion and not that of a cat.

>Your post reminds me of this untrue belief plants and flowers can feel things and are self-aware, while any significant consciousness starts at animals with a small brain like mice and birds.

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 No.323894

>>323878
I don't see how this post refutes my argument or advances your own.
When something goes wrong or well in your body your nerves connected to it create these pleasant or unpleasant sensations. You somehow claim there is something intelligent hidden behind hunger or pain while it's just blood sugar dropping, nerves picking this up, and sending this info to the more voluntary part of your nervous system.

 No.323895

i wish death were eternal nothingness
that would be the greatest mercy



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 No.307723[Reply]

Very late 20s. Never been on a date, never been approached. Never had any friends, only acquaintances. Not even meme internet "friends". I always thought these things would naturally come to me at a later age, but they never did. With each passing year it gets worse. There is something profoundly wrong with me, it's like the part of my brain that's responsible for human contact was amputated at birth
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 No.307872

>>307723
we can be friend you know :3
except we cant because youre too retarded lul.

 No.307948

>>307731
>if you dont they dry up like plants and die off.
Great line.

 No.307949

>>307731
Depressingly true.
I used to have online friends when I was a fun clown in MMOs and later when I was hardcore high rank in a moba…
Never since.
Though to be fair I never looked for them outright either or asked to join or whatever.
>dry up like plants and die off.
Unfortunately. If you have a multiyear or decade long lay-down-and-rot episode you are just stuck alone forever.

 No.307958

>>307949
>Unfortunately. If you have a multiyear or decade long lay-down-and-rot episode you are just stuck alone forever.

No social obligations, no letting people down, no emotional stress from others, a lot cheaper without stuff like dinners and events, no helping people move, maximum free time for hobbies, interests, etc.

so it's not necessarily "unfortunately", but it is true… very hard to recover from looooong breaks of many things

somethings come back like riding a bike…

others truly atrophy and die.

or you just give up and don't try anymore so it might as well be dead…just slowly rotting

>Though to be fair I never looked for them outright


Were you just not motivated? Or was something holding you back

 No.307966

>>307958
That all sounds nice, but I was killing myself mentally.
Stress and neglect combined ruined my health for good in many ways.
>or you just give up and don't try anymore so it might as well be dead…just slowly rotting
Pretty much. At some point I just surrendered. I truly tried to do a lot of things, maybe it's some mental problem, but I could just never act on anything that wasn't directly stimulating.
At some point even those lost any appeal.

>others truly atrophy and die.

Indeed, to the point where I developed panic attacks whenever I'm around people or even talk to them over voice calls lately.
I can't even control it. It's very weird.

>Were you just not motivated? Or was something holding you back

Much was lost as you say. I lost interest in most if not all things and without caring about anything, what do you even talk about with people?
I asked an anon this above >>307748 and the response was as expected… they don't have much to talk about with people either.
What would I even do if I had friends? I can't tell you.

I was motivated for a bit.
I tried to reignite a passion for yugioh (childhood love) spent a good chunk of time going to local gatherings, but it didn't work out.
I couldn't connect to people at all aside from the somewhat forced interactions due to the nature of the engagement/game.
The panic attacks got worse too, but I forced it for almost a year.
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 No.323882[Reply]

you think attention is behaving inflationary?

since attention is treated like a currency in a monetized internet and the money is inflationary on it's own, i would wonder if the inflation from the money is infecting something that in it's own would not necessarily behave inflationary (as in getting more and more worthless as time progresses). human life is finite, maybe this forces attention to increase in value the older someone gets. i'd call that deflation.

 No.323885

Sorry this is too much for my brain. Maybe use simpler words so I can understand

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>>323885
>Sorry this is too much for my brain. Maybe use simpler words so I can understand, also i am enjoying all the excitement of this wrestling match, i am glad i decided to attend!

human attention; the thing youtube says it sells to advertisers when you ask the company behind it how it got all the money…

is human attention worth more today or worth less today when you compare it to 5 years ago?

when you try to use money as a measure to answer this, you will get two numbers and i expect one to be higher then the other. but this might not be wise to do because just because something costs more money, it does not mean it is more valuable. that difference might be measuring nothing but unimportant predictable boring waves inside the ocean that is the monetary system and not represent any actual value whatsoever.

 No.323890

>>323886
I wont write your school dissertation sorry pal

 No.323892

>>323890
>I wont write your school

thinking there would be a school that would encourage children to question money reveals how little you understand about both school and money. schools teach children to depend on money and equate it with value.

 No.323893

>>323892
There's probably at least one school like that out there

As for the school in general you're talking about plenty of them are going to have their students do a little critical analysis to get it out of their system before they embrace the neoliberal consensus



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 No.323167[Reply]

"Let Us Beat Swords Into Ploughshares is a bronze sculpture by artist Evgeniy Vuchetich (1908 ¬– 1974). Vuchetich was an esteemed Soviet sculptor and artist well-known for his heroic monuments. In 1959, he was given the “People’s Artist of the USSR” award.
The sculpture depicts the figure of a man, holding a hammer aloft in one hand and a sword in the other hand, hammering the sword into a ploughshare, a tool to till land for crops. This action symbolizes man’s desire to put an end to war and transform tools of destruction into tools to benefit mankind.
The Book of Isaiah contains the following passage: "They shall beat their swords into ploughshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."
The sculpture was gifted to the United Nations by the USSR on December 4th, 1959. It was presented on behalf of the Soviet Delegation by Vassily V. Kuznetsov, First Deputy Foreign Minister of the USSR, to Secretary-General Dag Hammarskjold who accepted the sculpture on behalf of the United Nations."
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>>323167
CAPITALISM IS THE BEST
>also
COMMUNISM IS THE WORST

 No.323855

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>>323167
fascism is the way tho

 No.323862

>>323855
Fascism is a war ideology. Why would you want war?

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>>323862
>why
because war is inevitable
too many people etc

 No.323891

>>323888
Death is inevitable. Do you want death ?



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 No.228496[Reply]

Thesis:

Engagement with structurally advanced texts and excellent rhetoric trains and temporarily optimises the mind into recurring modes of organization, attention, abstraction, and inference; repeated exposure can temporarily or semi-durably bias cognition toward those modes independently of propositional content.

Or in simpler terms, in the same way that algebra & calculus trains the mind towards logical and methodical thought in the long term, I believe it's possible for works of illustration, music and literature to do so in the short term. If this is true, then it's advantageous to catalogue such art-efacts and optimise exposure to them.

I'm not talking about the first order; "no duh, I read something that told/reminded me of facts and now they're at the front of my attention" or involuntary emotional responses, I'm talking about the temporary mental structure. Meditation or such like, if it works, seems to work by selecting for facts and details, voluntarily emphasising inputs to get desired outputs. It should notionally be possible then, to exercise the mind in such a way that one or more patterns of thought and emphasis can be either cold stored, or reliably reconstructed with inputs on demand. I think genius lies in being able to do this at will and not rely on outside props, but i'm not a genius.

The inspiration for this idea came from reading Robert Carlyle in the morning and consequently having a very organised and effective day at work, but I've noticed it much earlier in the second and third novel of Kai Lung. In the later case, the pleasant but none-the-less non-trivial effort of very complex English usually leaves me in a "well spoken" state for quite some time. I originally put this down to simple mimicry but perhaps there's more to it.

Thoughts? Examples of useful material?

If this is true, consider the darker side - that it's possible to artificially construct and reinforce dysfunctional frames of mind, not just overloading the memory and attention with noise and conflict, but actually implant a structure of thought - at scale. If this was so, how well does it explain modernity.
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 No.228616

>>228609
>can you post some screenshots?
I wish. I really should have screenshotted those threads or even archived them. There was a lot of interesting discussion going on about self-improvement that wasn't the usual garbage. I remember people were discussing how self-image could be used as motivation in lieu of raw willpower, kind of like when you watch a movie and start acting like a character from that movie, etc. Things like that.
also
>about 6-7 years ago
Yeah, that's what I meant. This must have been around 2020 which in my head is still "4 years ago" I guess. Time flies.

 No.228617

>>228615
i don't know, it's difficult. if you're scared of people, you need experiences of safety. if you feel inferior, you need experiences of being enough. when you're stuck in a particular perceptual frame, you need knowledge of a different frame that serves as an antidote. if you just go outside and seek it out, you might never find it, because it has to be a very specific experience, the world is chaotic and unpredictable, and most likely you'll just collect more trauma. but also, conjuring it up from nothing through meditation is also difficult, because you don't know what you don't know, like imagining the taste of chocolate if you've never had chocolate. i did it somehow, before i messed around with tulpamancy, i didn't understand love on an experiential level, it was just missing from my perceptual field completely. now that i have knowledge of that particular frame and i can access it whenever i want and it seems to trigger real neurochemical processes i.e. i can trigger oxytocin purely by imagining cuddling with my tulpa.

>>228616
you could probably find it through the wayback machine archive. the whole thing is a blur to me, i remember writing about this perception stuff in a bunch of different threads. the thread you remember was probably years later, i vaguely remember some guy talking about how he pretends he's a warrior or something to get into the mindset to exercise.

 No.228618

>>228603
>sound like a lot of Techno-Psycho-babble
yeah it's not really clear to me what he precisely means, various activities improve your attention, mental organisation, and capability for abstraction. Drinking some strong coffee does this simply
>Freud, Jung, and company made a lot of hey what if and made up theories
To me these theories are just nonsense, speculation at best
>for some more scientific people all therapies are just placebos
If taking a sugar pill each day does the same thing might as well take the sugar pill instead of spend time and money on therapy

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>>228617
>conjuring it up from nothing through meditation is also difficult, because you don't know what you don't know, like imagining the taste of chocolate if you've never had chocolate.
You're experimenting with something interesting here anon. Read around Psychonautics.

>before i messed around with tulpamancy, i didn't understand love on an experiential level, it was just missing from my perceptual field completely. now that i have knowledge of that particular frame and i can access it whenever i want and it seems to trigger real neurochemical processes i.e. i can trigger oxytocin purely by imagining cuddling with my tulpa.

Check Metaprograming circuit in Prometheus Rising and compare to Tulpamancy and forcing… hehe
You use a lot your brain around language or maths… these thing in a way start that circuit, you know the latter.
Each circuit is non-local, its not lineal.

>i vaguely remember some guy talking about how he pretends he's a warrior or something to get into the mindset to exercise.

Assuption of the godform or Power pose, visualization self-hypnosis or method acting alter ego… read the book the myth of charisma if you want.
>Also
Read Prometheus Rising and do exercises, if you dont get read Cosmic Trigger 1.

 No.228626

>>228617
>you could probably find it through the wayback machine archive
I tried looking for a bit but I couldn't find it, and I don't feel like trawling through all those half dead links, so whatever.
>vaguely remember some guy talking about how he pretends he's a warrior or something to get into the mindset to exercise.
I mean, that might have literally been me. I remember posting something about how pretending to be a ninja in training helped me do my calisthenic exercise like push ups and pull ups(and also how that same "pretending" did not extend into motivating me to for example lift weights in the gym, because that doesn't fit the conceptual framing).
Yeah, interesting threads for sure, but I never really ended up figuring out how to fully utilize it. The biggest issue I faced is the constant back sliding. It's like when you watch a movie and start acting like the main character; it usually lasts for a week or two, then you're back to your old self. When you use your imagination to conceptually reframe your self-image you end up with the same problem of short duration.



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