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 No.306449[Reply]

What is the average wizard's relationship with religion like? No religious person has ever been able to give me a good argument for why God, if he is out there, is not the most maximally evil being in the universe simply by the virtue of creating suffering when he could have chosen not to. Saying "suffering builds character" and derivatives of is just a manifestation of their stockholm syndrome for this vile entity

>I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil. I YHWH do all these things - Isaiah 45:7
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 No.306856

>>306661
I remember at some point in time 100 % being convinced God is real, like this belief would never stop for the rest of my life and it hasn't. Leaving the Christian faith because you disagree with what some random guy wrote about free will is stupid. Atheism is so boring.

 No.306857

>>306844
>I just don't think religion is that bad. It gives a sense of community, it gives social support, it gives routine, and importantly, it holds people to some standards. And because it's holding people to standards, people who can't meet those standards often throw a little tantrum and say it's "controlling". No, you're just behaving like a fucking loser, and when you're part of a collective, people rightly do judge you for your behavior. Yes it sucks, but shame is part of what keeps society healthy.
Wtf are you talking about, the god christians worship literally said do not judge or you will be judged (Matthew 7:1-6).

 No.306858

>>306854
It's actually true. The stats that show atheists doing better than religious people always include spiritual and Christians who don't actually go to church.

When you limit it to those who actually go to church every week, religious people are consistently healthier, more educated and earn more.

I remember at school religious people were heavily pressured to keep their faith to themselves and most kids sniggered at them. Around the 2000s where I lived the culture was pretty heavily anti-religious. It was bizarrely hypocritical in retrospect, because the culture heavily promoted a superficial tolerance.

>>306855
Just because I'm a wizzie doesn't mean I don't see the benefits in the normie life. We are a tribal species after all, all this talk of atomized living is for the most part a cope.

Yes, normies historically had it right. If anything, normies themselves are failing at being normies by not going to church or having a proper collective social structure.

 No.306859

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>>306858
>I'm a wizzie
You're an adult man. have some self-respect.

 No.306860

>>306857
>For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Read the very next passage, it's clearly talking about hypocrisy. And the following passages hammer that point home.

>Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

And regardless of the teachings. A church is an organizational structure with a hierarchy and group instincts come into play. People will conform to the group, you'll be pressured through social pressures to be on the same page. If you don't meet the standards, you'll be at the bottom of the hierarchy and seen with contempt. But the good thing is for the church this is behavior based. They're not asking you to be a chad, super intelligent, good looking or wealthy. They just want you to dress nicely, be polite, contribute a little and use your manners.

The boomer generation left the church en masse not because of some theological principle. But because they got sick of being judged. Their theology just became selfish hedonism. They're pretty open about this, and I think the church pastors at the time were absolutely right to judge them. Can we really say society has gotten better since the 1960s? I watch old videos of Boston or Melbourne with the pristine streets, well dressed people, happy white faces and optimism and just think what fools we were to give that up.


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 No.228142[Reply]

im 18 and the sex is a idea that make me feel disgusting. I don´t have relation with succubus. I think that the sex is a form of engage with the word.
And while more i think i can see that my life is a fucking disaster for be thinking about have sex and be with a succubus all day.
But i dont want humilieate me and be some desesperated. also im ugly shitskin and low iq and social skills (coomer to)
in deep of my heart i believe that lose my virginity will make me happy, that a succubus listen my problems, and scare me the idea that while more times goes on the succubi have more experience and i stuck in back.
I know a contradiction. My point is that i wanna be alone and be happy alone.i dont wanna be part of that twisted system and circle what life is, but my wish chase me.
What recomendation give me? above all the wizard more olders. I think go to a psychiathrist to give me pills and practice some sport, but i dont wanna go to gym because i hate thats machines touch by all world and are many sucubus dresses like whore.
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 No.228156

>>228148
>but there is also the built in mechanism that keeps the "score" and every humiliation, every putdown, every loss gets recorded and adjusts your mood

so it self-esteem?

 No.228164

Personally, I think it's an ego thing. Every person wants to leave a legacy, and for most people that's going to be their progeny. While men are living, they constantly show off their wife and kids and to a lesser extent their mantoys e.g. cars to each other. If you had other things going for you, it wouldn't be as painful. You're 18. Chances are you will not remain virgin at 30.
>>228150
There is a lot of overlap.

 No.228173

>>228142
Anons. Do you remember the pdf that posted in here called *how to be alone" by a middle age? repost please

 No.228174

>>228173
*middle age wizard

 No.228176

>>228164
>overlap
reminder that most lainchanners are edgelord normies/failed normies and don't belong here.


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 No.306157[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.
ice cold edition
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 No.306846

>>306166
please don't do it anon, I know that life is often hard, I know, I also went through that for many, many years where I didn't see the light of the road, but I learned that if you are strong enough to withstand the storm, the sun of a new day awaits you on the other side, and I can assure you, my friend, that you are very close to seeing that new dawn

 No.306848

I hope you will excuse a brief suggestion. I've been reading up on Taoism recently. I suppose most people are already familiar with the "Tao Te Ching." I think it's difficult and obscure, and it seems like it will take a long time for me to really understand it. But there are two other major Taoist works which might be more immediately useful to those who aren't super invested in this stuff. The "Chuang-tzu" is irreverent and turns things upside down. The "Lieh-tzu" has a lot of practical advice. Perhaps these books will help someone here. Be well everyone.

 No.306850

Approaching 35 now, it will be nearly 20 years since I started trying to make my life tolerable and some kind of progress away from the suicidal depression that was already setting in at 16.

Nothing has really worked and all the progress hasn’t really changed anything. Medication made the biggest change. Tried everything else, every kind of philosophy, different theories of psychology, spirituality and religion. Nobody gives a fuck when you’ve done things and got nothing from them, in fact they fucking hate you because you don’t even offer an alternative story just a negation.

Existence is still awful and I wouldn’t have regretted killing myself at 16 like I nearly did. I live out of an obligation to family but fuck life has been a tedious grind of finding out the world others live in doesn’t apply to me.

There’s nothing to say.

 No.306851

>>306848
i mentally equal tao to christianity.

 No.306852

>>306850
i learned that philosophy and religion are means to an end, not really ways to live in and of themselves and if you try to use them as such you'll get sorry results. nothing can really save you after you've developed an unhealthy mindset since childhood. i sometimes ruminate on some of my weird traits as a child and wonder why they didn't mercy drown me in a bathtub.


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 No.306585[Reply]

I am not in a position to move out and I always have to listen to complaints about everything I do
Its affecting my happiness quite a bit, its a good day when I dont have to interact with anyone for a day
As if I dont know im a failure
The complaining never stops
I was a Neet I got cried to alot for that, now im a student and I still get talks about finding a part time job the same way, despite me getting money
Its so tiresome
I once worked full time for over a year, it was such a bad time to me, I dont have the energy like normies do
The worst part about it all is my mom telling me I should move out if I dont like it
I want to move out very badly, but how can I when the few hundred I get a month is barely enough to live?
Even with a part time job it would not be enough
I dont see the situation changing anytime soon

 No.306600

they complain because it works. they successfully got you to wageslave and unislave. some more complaining and they will get you to marry some succubus and shit out some grandchildren.

the trick is to actually just stop doing anything and endure their bullshit for a while until they realize it's not working and they leave you alone. become such a giant loser that they completely give up on you and they're ashamed to even talk about you to family (that's how you get out of social gatherings as well).

 No.306621

I had awful parents, they "complained" about everything and when I gave in and tried to adapt myself to them they would complain more, gaslight, change their story etc. Eventually I realised their goal was simply to torment and I broke off all contact. You might consider they are'nt being serious and just want to bully you, I've also heard of other people having similar parents to often calling them narcissists.

 No.306811

>>306621
thats the truth, there's always a new dragon to chase. I was NEET after highschool. got nagged into studying which gave me 1 week of peace, then nagged to finding a job which i couldn't even find for over a year which was horrible times. anyway once i get a job its again peace for another week. then it's when am i doing more hours and/or getting promoted.

Majorly insane I hate it so much. I've since anchored myself down in my routine of over 10 years now. I work 4 days, dont go out, dont do a lot of things and the nagging has finally stoped aside from once every 6 months about how i should really try get married LOL.

stupid parents should have had 3 or 4 kids. you can't play 1 game of poker and get mad you didn't win, play a few more then call it a night/life if it all failed.

 No.306849

>>306811
I feel like some parents don't view you as your own person, more like a toy or a doll they own. Some people also simply live to torment others. If I had known my life had turned out this way, I rather wished I had never come into existence in the first place.


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 No.68295[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Book discussion. Tell us what you're reading.
Previous threads:
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 No.70343

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The last monk, upon entering, paused in the lock. He stood in the open hatchway and took off his sandals. "Sic transit mundus," he murmured, looking back at the glow. He slapped the soles of his sandals together, beating the dirt out of them The glow was engulfing a third of the heavens. He scratched his beard, took one last look at the ocean, then stepped back and closed the hatch.

That's a suitable ending for a novel expressing cycle. Good point to wrap things up. Overall I enjoyed it. It didn't wowed me to be honest. The central idea, rise and fall of civilizations, is common currency in fiction. The first part is where it shines in my opinion, and then it was a slow descent towards the end. Still, pretty good, and it's a classic science fiction novel, definitely a must-read if you want to be well read in the genre.

>>70341
How did you like the novel?

>>70342
I wasn't planning to start another one right now, wiz. Maybe soon.

 No.70344

>>70343
>How did you like the novel?
It's the first novel I've read in a long time. There is more symbolism than I am used to but I seem to understand most of it. I think it may be a bit heavy handed with the moralizing but maybe back in 50s it was pushing new ideas. WW2 was still fresh in memory after all so people could appreciate anti war messaging more. This kind of non-partisan government-critical pacifism probably contributed to the hippie movement later. In any case, I think it was interesting.

 No.70439

Read The 400-Pound CEO. The only downside was that it was so short. What a brilliant thing. Other /r9k/ tier books like Whatever or Mars are more depressing, but really, they didn't speak to me like this one did.
It's not about wallowing in one's own misery, and it has some humor in it, but damn, I was really sad by the end. The main character is really pathetic, and it's crazy how Saunders aptly described such a kind of man. Maybe it was too on the nose in a few places, though.
I will read the rest of CivilWarLand collection now.

 No.70452

i didn't even check this board, what a fool i have been. so much wizzardry about reading for me to enjoy!

i made a thread about (ebook) reading and what a wonderful thing the modern e-ink display is. please come visit https://wizchan.org/lounge/res/323200.html

it is very pleasant to the eye and can be used in full sunshine. where i live they spray aluminium in the sky to block the sun as to make the people sick more so whenever there is a short moment of sun, i hurry and quickly grab the ereader and try to sit in it.

 No.70464

Do audiobooks count?


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 No.223091[Reply]

Hi I'm a wizard with agoraphobia, semi neet, I just study English.
Psychology don't help me, parents are sick of me, I'm not depressed because I learned to deal with this thanks to Christianity.
I have an strong regression and I am very exhaust.
I thinking in use mental health drugs, but the problem is I'm very addictive person, I don't want any addiction in my life. I hate psychology, i don't have any another psychological problem, just agoraphobia.
I can accept all bad things and manage it, but agoraphobia is hard.
I really don't know what to do. I'm using porn for deal with this, i know is a sin but…
I'm not addicted to porn, I just want to beat agoraphobia.
Help Wizards, psychologist don't help me.
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 No.225207

>>225206
and, turns out, a mug of instant coffee had 4 "cups" or more!

and my sleep was ruined due to bad sleeping place (foldable sofa as a bed, not a real comfy bed with a proper XXX$ matress)(no blackout curtains despite the ridiculously bright sun at 5 AM and such)

 No.226754

>>223093
Anything but committing suicide

 No.226884

Read about Stan Grof. Take the practice if you can, make it yours.

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>>223093
to be said with the 4 noble truths perhaps?

 No.228175

>succubus in the op pic
Wizchan 2026


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 No.228149[Reply]

To those wizards that have managed to stay as NEET for extended periods of time; do you have any advice for an apprentice? I know I can outright refuse, but to do so would generate ill will and hostility, things that I would obviously like to avoid. For the last six months I have been making an effort to help with tasks around the house such as mowing the lawn, vacuuming the house and sometimes cooking dinner. It seems this way I am not viewed as completely useless. Any further tips, life experiences or suggestions are welcome.
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 No.228160

my pereants are very easy going and dont pester me or hate me being here, my other older brother is here too.

so its good to have loving perants, but that might back fire when they keel over in the future

 No.228165

Basically I had a mental breakdown, got hospitalized then applied for disability. Now I receive around €942 monthly from the state, I give this sum entirely to my parents.

In this way I'm justified to stay NEET since I would lose disability if I worked and can actually pay for my bills and food.

 No.228170

>>228149

as someone who refuses to be part of the problem, you are a rare beautiful flower of a person and i wish nothing but good fortune, health and happiness to you.

you are one of the few people having the choice to become amazing. people with a boss can't, they will soon turn into trash because they get thrown into situations where they can only lose.

you can decide to be healthy, you can decide to learn something every day, you can watch the videos that make you understand stuff instead of those that dumb you duown, you can play the video games that broaden your horizon, you can take the drugs that make you question everything.

i want to encourage you to live an amazing life and make the best out of your time, live wisely, make good choices which benefit you long term.

non-neets can't really do that and they wish they could. they have tantrums on the inside because they can't.

 No.228171

>>228170
He's probably not going to do that, but I agree with you mostly. NEETs are kind of like undifferentiated stem cells that can still develop to be anything. Age hits you faster than you think though.

 No.228172

>>228149
That's how I usually justify it to myself too. If I'm going to be an indefinite burden on people around me, I'd just kill myself. I'm not vain enough to think I have any inherent worth. So I try to do what I can so they at least get something out of it.
Right now, that's cooking/cleaning/general house maintenance tasks.

I don't know how old you are but I guess the one tip I would give is to be wary of too much consumption. Try to make/do things if you can rather than passively consuming them. Creative/fixing stuff hobbies are nice if you can find one you like and it's easier to learn stuff when you're younger. But it really applies across the board, if you're helpless you have to pay someone to help you when the time comes that you need it. Cheaper to just have the skills to do things.

Also, pay attention to your mental health. Shit can get really bad if you aren't careful. It will probably get bad anyway but turning into a sack of potatoes as a response will only make it worse, you gotta make some effort to shake it off occasionally.

>>228151
It really does depend. My parents don't care too much about how they're perceived. Age plays into it too because I think even normalfags mellow out about a live-in helper that they just have to feed once they hit 60 or 70.


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 No.323155[Reply]

I've always wondered how a country of wizards would be run. Genuine inquiry. I don't wanna hear any normalnigger cope like "they'll just become degenerate like the rest of us lol!" normies say to make themselves feel better. I mean seriously. From my experience being around r9k and wizchan (being raised by them and being one for life), I've encountered many wizards over the years who are profoundly intelligent, but regular societal structures harm them to the point where they never realize their true potential. They are struggling to exist peacefully enough to attain self-actualization, which seems to the wizard's highest goal by instinct. No matter where they are in the world, the patterns are always the same.

Let's pretend that in this hypothetical country, there's an even mixture of wizards and virgin maidens.

I'm thinking the fertility rates would be low since they'll breed slower, but they'll produce higher quality offspring, mate for life monogamously and have big households. Since this is a high IQ population, they'll make better dietary decisions if animal proteins were cheaper, produce higher IQ offspring and have far higher impulse control than normal people. IQ is very important here, because it's connected to a long lifespan, stable families and an advanced society.

There won't be the constant pursuit of happiness or chasing the future, since most wizards are deeply aware of the dark realities of life and struggle to delude themselves like everyone else. Perhaps they'll understand the present moment is enough since its all there is, and being nihilistic is normal, and in a country like this, they won't have to feel alone. I know I certainly won't feel alone, but I don't know if other wizards would.

I believe the internet age in the 80s-90s was the most revolutionary step. For the first time in human history, the wizard discovered he is not alone in the world. At the heart of the internet, this was the most profound transformation that rippled outward. Now that we're already halfway into the millenium, I think a nation of wizards might be the next step into the future.

What do you guys think? I have never seen anyone discuss these hypotheticals before, ever.
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 No.323166

>>323160
>wizards stopped being wizards

I didnt say that anywhere in my thread. I meant to say that wizards can choose to remain wizards freely without being insulted or denied social support, and if he ever changes his mind, like in the case he wants to save his race or become a father, he can breed with a maiden that actually loves him and be a good family to the children (instead of being plagued with adultery, divorces, betrayals, abuse, etc. like in normie society). That's all.

The normies absolutely do the work, but if this country became a place where even menial jobs like McDonalds worker made you more money than you'd know what to do with, I dont think normies would be necessary.

>With longevity and automation technology, the normie base would perhaps not even be needed eventually and they could be exiled from the country.

Exactly. Normies will be deported or killed if they refuse to leave, once they are done serving the wizard populations. They are not necessary.

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>>323155
Israel Prime would be a wizard country if they didn't have sex.
You'd have a leader caste of owners that just NEET and a cattle class of normies that work.

If you just want to imagine a country made by us, nothing would get done and we would just die.
Some select few would survive homesteading or idk. I'm sure there are some skilled wizards here from reading some of the posts, but not enough to run a country.
They'd have no incentive to share either. 99% useless eaters with 1% producers situation.

>Let's pretend that in this hypothetical country, there's an even mixture of wizards and virgin maidens.
So, state of wizards that will have sex with some virgins maidens down the road?
Wouldn't be very wizardly… but I'll entertain it.

If you took this board and an equal amount of succubi and declared it to be a country you would have a decent number of crabs immediately doing falling over themselves to wag tail for a crumb of pussy.
"Our people" would soon use the truwiz types as targets of mockery to signal themselves as better mates to the succs.
They would be a majority too.
Truwiz would be oppressed worse than they are today in a normie society.
Since we are talking about starved loser crabs here being our new tyrants, as opposed to what you assume, them knowing the grim realities of the outside would only make them the most sick twisted rabid defenders of their newly attained position.

True wizards would suffer no matter what.
Succs will flock to the loudest most obnoxious power hungry crabs for perceived safety and as social enforcers would systematize our torment.
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 No.323292

Probably the closest real world example is the monastic republic of Mount Athos.

The Shakers are an example of a religious community that died out because they were celibates only.

I think you have wrong idea, but a country run by a wizard elect would quickly be conquered. Wizards would not want to exercise power, and there would be little buy-in from mundanes.

These threads pop up from time to time.

 No.323294

>>323288
Unfortunately this is the truth. If we’re being more realistic (while of course firmly in the realm of fantasy still) it would be a community of hermits occasionally helping each other out. But growing your own food, getting electricity, heating, running water, internet and so on is a lot harder than one might think. You might put 100 hours into gardening for X amount of calories. But if you just worked a normal job for a day you could easily buy multiple times that simply due to economy of scale. Hermitary still really speaks to me. Just abandon all my problems and live in a little cabin. Would need to either get NEETbux (a pipedream) or some kind of really low intensity remote job though.

 No.323295

>>323294
Reminds me of the early Christian monks in Egypt.


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 No.322610[Reply]

happy new year and all of that.

treat yourself to some sesame paste if you never head any. i regret learning about this so late, i can't help but want to warn others on not missing out on this goodness. it is just one ingredient crushed industrially into paste: sesame seeds.

when you buy it in the store it is separated and the separation is strong. when you stick a spoon in and try to stir, the bottom is so strong that the spoon can not stir. and you have to shake it and keep it in a shook state.

the sesame paste hides behind a bit of effort but the reward is worth the extra work.

the taste is amazing. mild and nutty. the nice thing about this is that it has a high fat content but it is not as impossible to digest as oil is. it still has it's fiber.

i use this to make sauces without oil. i just put tomatos and herbs into a blender and then i add a few tablespoons of this stuff and it turns into a nice creamy sauce but a sauce that the human organism has the chance to actually digest reasonably.

this stuff is so good, i wonder why it is not sold in regular supermarkets, i bother to go to the muslim markets just to get this goodness.
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 No.323005

Weak hippie soydrinkers will try to justify a $420 USD plastic box to grind their food into a paste by saying that most of the plastic is recycled and 3D printed and that the design specs for the device were uploaded online for free so it's progressive or whatever. They will say "No more cleaning" as a prime selling point because cleaning requires muscles that they don't have. They will turn decent vegetables in to slurries of spices and water because their tongues are unable to taste normal food after a lifetime of being burnt by niggerweed smoke.

Healthy men will just eat the food as is, or chop it with a knife because turning food in to paste is fucking stupid and has a history of making children's teeth and jaws undeveloped. If these men need a blender to make preworkout smoothies, they will get one from Goodwill for $14.88 and it won't ever break because it's not made by gay progressive weed hippies.

 No.323011

>>322614
Animal fats are the healthiest fats. Plant lipids are goyslop.

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>>323005

this is me and my vegan gang causing a ruckus in your neighborhood

 No.323193

currently enjoying a spiced nutbutter to dip vegetables in from the blender:


>bit of tahini
>bit of peanut butter (is a 100% peanut nothing else)
>raw cashews
>1 juiced orange with pulp
>small piece of ginger
>3 small cloves garlic
>1 small onion (a mild one)
>half a bouquet of dill (without the stems, only the furry parts)
>currypowder
>how curry powder
>fruity curry powder
>kurkumin powder
>pepper
>vegetable stock powder
>dark soy sauce
>almond oil small amount

i blend it into a thick paste and then dip cucumber and bell pepper pieces into it and that's my meal for the day.

 No.323293

yesterday i had nothing fresh left to eat so i made instant vegetable stock and ate it with cashew nuts. i stirred in a spoon of sesame paste but it didn't disolve completely so it was mostly at the bottom of the glass. i did this with soups often and was surprised it did not combine with the instant broth. i guess i never noticed in a soup because i constantly keep the soup moving and eat it with a big spoon from a shallow wide bowl.

can't remember where but a few weeks ago i stumbled upon the meme that 3 meals a day is a conspiracy and i think there might be something to it. i try to keep the window of when i eat somewhat small as in i don't eat breakfast, just liquids and then maybe at 4pm i start with a fruit smoothie and then the more dense stuff (well just nuts in my case) i eat last. when i eat like today until 11pm that it is a 7 hour window of eating.

lol muslims are such well-fed pampered consumers, they call this fasting: only eating in the evening and act like it is the hardest thing in the world XD


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 No.68877[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

All you need to begin drawing is a pencil and some paper

Feel free to post any drawings of yours in this thread. Illustration, doodle, traditional, digital - anything goes. Discussion on skillbuilding techniques and fair critique of other wizards' work is welcome.

Videos:

Tyler Edlin - https://www.youtube.com/user/TylerE2284
Proko - https://www.youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Sinix - https://www.youtube.com/user/sinixdesign
Scott Robertson - https://www.youtube.com/user/scottrobertsondesign
Matt Kohr (CtrlPaint) - https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library
Aaron Blaise - https://www.youtube.com/user/AaronBlaiseArt
Vilpu (Anatomy) - https://mega.nz/folder/9Pw1lYaS#Me7LSwlSg59lNGmkj9tt4w/folder/lPoXEYxS

Poses/Gestures
QuickPoses -https://www.quickposes.com/en
PoseSpace -https://www.posespace.com/posetool/default.aspx
https://x6ud.github.io/#/ Animal Head Reference Finder
https://anatomy360.info/anatomy-scan-reference-dump/

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>>70443
I maybe be a fucking scumbag cheater piece of shit, a literal cancer on everything artistic, but I just either use 3d models in CSP or already drawn hands/stamps as basis. If it is 3d model, I first trace hands fluidly so they aren't stiff. Because I am tired to see the grubby paws instead of delicate hands and I am too lazy to grind them for 1452355345 times like some gook motherfucker who has been drawing for 18 hours everyday nonstop for years.

 No.70460

>>70459
>models in CSP
what does that stand for?

 No.70461

>>70458
also how hard is too draw without the wrist?

 No.70462

>>70460
Clip Studio Paint

 No.70463

>>70458
The tip about drawing with your whole arm really helped me a lot
Like I always wonder how people drew perfect circles but I couldn't then I finally realize the problem it was that simple….I always drew with wrists not with my whole arms!

But seriously thank you man!

I started to draw because of a incident where someone drew some fucked up stuff of fictional character I really love and care about and I want to sleep knowing I can draw and do better than that piece of shit and thanks to you! I got closer to my goal of making something amazing and I will make this year at all cost!


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 No.323194[Reply]

What is it that you want in life?
Sometimes I want to be a quiet wandering tourist in the world. Just read history and politics and watch the geopolitical events unfold as a spectator. A tourist in the human race, uninvolved with everyone.

I remember being in primary school as a little kid and being uninterested in playing with anyone. I just wanted to wander in my own thoughts and wander in the playground aimlessly. I sometimes observed the other students. Boys playing football. succubi huddled in groups talking. Not wishing to take part myself I just analysed.

Sometimes I wish I had some great talent to such a degree that I change the course of human history. Write a world changing philosophical novel. Be a fierce Nietzschean warrior like some pirate or French Foreign Legion member. Ridiculous delusions.

Live for pleasure? (Freud) Live for power? (Nietzsche) Live for meaning? (Frankl).
What do you do? Life is so short. I am 31 years old. My body is not where I could be. My achievements are not where they could be.

What do you live for?
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 No.323237

I'm going to change things, or at least get close enough that it melts my wings.

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>>323237
Omg it's like Icarus! And the cat's name was Icarus! I'm going completely insane!!!1!

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>>323194
I'm turning 30 in a month and I wish I knew man.
I let my health decline to a ridiculous degree.
Let myself rot both in mind and body.
I'm a man of inaction and similar to you I have voyeuristic tendencies. I used to just observe people too, I liked watching, doing not so much.
I'd be fine as a spectator. Or at least that is what I tell myself.

>>323197
Feel this too. I tried getting rid of as much as I could recently. I'm burdened by a lot of digital hoarding as well. Not just physical items.
It was a great relief every time I cut out something.
One less thing to manage or worry about keeping around.



One of my childhood dreams was to someday have enough money to buy a small house in a village and have a rose garden and just chill for the rest of my life. No work.
At the time it seemed attainable. Today, not really short of a miracle.
Even if you "own" stuff you have to maintain it, things go bad, gotta buy it again and many things are extremely pricey. Imagine having to buy a fridge every 5 years if you "retired" with no income.
Or a washing machine etc.
Just sustaining yourself also comes with a bunch of recurring payments. It's a pain. The grind never ends.

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>>323287
I let my health decline to a ridiculous degree.
Let myself rot both in mind and body.
I'm a man of inaction and similar to you I have voyeuristic tendencies. I used to just observe people too, I liked watching, doing not so much.
I'd be fine as a spectator. Or at least that is what I tell myself.

have you ever listen to the cassette programm "psychology of achievement" by brain tracy? if not you have been missing out.

 No.323291

>>323287
>t's like forces above just don't want to let people live.

it really does feel like that but i like to think those people are even more miserable then me. i always felt these people envy me and i never envied them. the direction of envy clearly flows in my favor and i have all their envy and they have none of mine.

i still think you should get healthy and hope that a miracle happens. being healthy is nice. it doesn't make what you describe go away but it makes everything way easier.


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 No.306675[Reply]

Lookism has become a public, popular topic lately on the internet and I believe that it affects wizards in very tangible ways.
Being a genetic dead end ugly loser myself I suffer for it even as a now "middle aged" man.
One would think such things are left behind in high school or something, but no.

You queue up for a service, government office for some paperwork, a cash register at a store, post office or hell even medical services.
You can tell the people before you were treated kindly. At worst processed in a neutral way.
Some even receive a cheerful response and the help they need, people go above and beyond for some.
Then it's your turn at the line.

A look of disdain follows immediately. Quiet. No "what can I help do for you" "what can I help you with" "what is the purpose of your visit".
Silence. Faces contort…
Sometimes a sigh, sometimes some snide remark. Clear hostility.

A shift in demeanor so noticeable, so obvious, so visceral… (yet to them likely natural) that even the thickest of autism wont help you stay oblivious to it.
You get mistreated, worse service, denied service you paid for, medical gaslighting, humiliation over and over again.
Networking is impossible for you, who by your mere acquaintance devalue their status.. and without connections, being treated like this, only having the "official route" as an option you soon realize you might not be able to get anything done.

After much pushing, repeated humiliations and humbling yourself, matching your demeanor to that expected of "your ilk" some old lady at the register might take pity and process your request, prescribe your medication, refer you to a proper doctor.
Sometimes the stars do align like that and you make a step towards a slightly less miserable state of being.

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>>306786
Okay, I'm sold. Can you tell me more about how you ysed CBT to your benefit?
I tried it myself with a workbook, even posted about it here, but it wasn't all that much successful for me since I hit roadblocks even starting with BA.
I like the concept of BA and here where the cognitive part rears its head.
Basically,
>I should take a shower for mastery points
>Wait, why should I take a shower, I'm disgusting one way or another
Basically, my rumination prevents me from starting acting. I don't know what to do first: behavioural or cognitive changes.
That's where a therapist should be helpful, but as I've mentioned…
>If that's what therapy is in USA then no fucking wonder shit's gone to shit.
That's what it basically is in my country, but I'm not from the US. It's a bunch of succubi having a mid life crisis and jumping into therapy to earn a quick buck. Most of them just complete a basic course on some BS and just provide the venting type of therapy. I know because I tried eight times, from trainees to supposedly the best there is. Ironically, only that green trainee yielded some results, and yes, we did CBT. But I don't want to contact her again for various reasons.
>If the practice of psychological intervention, lifestyle management, *unfucking fucked up perspectives* is held in contempt and billed as a pacifier, then sure - fuck that. That's not what i'm talking about.
Exactly! But those are hard to come by, isn't it?
Anyway, going back to my question. What did you do? Have you did CBT with ChatGPT or a real therapist? I don't have the means to try a real therapist though. I guess even budgeting to find one would be bad for my mental, since funneling all my money into a therapist would make me unhappy since I will end up broke in the process. And no, getting a free therapist is not an option where I'm from. Or, well, it's an option only for veterans and other certain groups of people.

 No.306788

Holy derailed…

 No.306789

>>306787
>>Okay, I'm sold. Can you tell me more about how you ysed CBT to your benefit?

I went in thinking "oh this is what it's like on TV, I just have to talk about my feelings" and what I *got* was a 20 page work book with a checklist of cause & effect and an event tracker diary to determine what went wrong, when and why. First session was essentially the therapist telling me the scope of the project, the type of interventions that they could provide or refer and the explicit end goal.

First step was identifying the root cause of the Catastrophising habit I had, which is "Things are shit, I am shit, anything I do is shit, why try" which, largely was because I had lived in abnormal (statistically significantly so) adverse situations. The therapist back then did a basic assessment of what I did, why I responded to specific problems the way I did, and we eventually built up a literal checklist and decision tree that I still refer to from time to time that stops the habitual fear/endure and shut down response into "Think calmly, assess using the tools you have developed, respond accordingly". That took about 10 weeks of conscious practice to get to that point, but it got me out of bed and into an upper quartile wagie lifestyle which I know for sure i'd never even attempt, never mind achieve in my old configuration.

>>Basically, my rumination prevents me from starting acting. I don't know what to do first: behavioural or cognitive changes.

Of all things it was the Pickle Rick therapist in Rick and Morty that gave me an answer that's stuck for years:

"I have no doubt that you would be bored senseless by therapy, the same way I'm bored when I brush my teeth and wipe my ass. Because the thing about repairing, maintaining, and cleaning is it's not an adventure. There's no way to do it so wrong you might die. It's just work. And the bottom line is, some people are okay going to work, and some people well, some people would rather die."

So the question I suggest _you_ answer is, do you hate *maintenance*, or do you actually and genuinely hate *work*.

If it's the later, I'd expect 2:1 odds that it's because outside context problems have demonstrated to you - either rationally or subconsciously - that the fruits of your work can be taken Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.306796

i *am* handsome! ;_;

 No.306839

>>306713
>I would be grateful if you would elaborate with something tangible. I can't engage with something this vague.

i doubt engagements are what will make you decide to create a way more detailled map of the place you are at but that is the price you have to pay to know what is really going on.

>"Didn't try hard enough kid." Is all I ready.

i guess you could look at it that way if you insist but i encourage you not to insist, there is a certain inherent inequality when communication occurs at different levels of knowledge and experience. what do you want me to say, want me to say "your highness" to you or "sensei"? i don't call you kid i would prefer more politically hurtful insults but the not having tried hard enough is something i would like to emphasize because there is a degree of hardness that you can reach that would make that statement valid and since you were not that hard, you are in the situation you are in. hardness is the way out. talking about it is the way in.

>I didn't or at least didn't mean to make a statement of "oh its all your looks, blame all your failures on it". If that is what you got from the post then you either misunderstood or I made a critical error in communication.

'looks' as well as 'failures' are everything when you are close to them though in another way those are both smaller day-to-day downstream effects from more overarching concepts i encourage you to keep an eye out for. these are like details or afterthoughts that you insist on giving way too much of your finite attention when there are things much more deserving of your most precious resource.

>The point was to understand and share from experience of aspects of ones life where one would feel they got lesser results or were shut off from opportunities simply for their looks.

besides lack of looks, can you think of other disadvantages a person might suffer from being shut off from opportunities? i also experience being shut off from opportunities but it is for reasons i would bet you could never guess because it is too rare of a condition, nobody knows about this, nobody cares about this, nobody understands about it but don't care. i barely ever talk about it because talking about it does nPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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 No.306816[Reply]

I have a job, and heaven knows I'm miserable now, I don't have studies and I have a bad arm so i can work but my arm is hurting me.
I really want the job, I don't have anything better to do with my life in this point.
My parents are so proud of me, at least I have a job, but for my arm problem I don't know how many time I will work in this place.
Average normies life sucks, they don't have a beautiful succubus, if they don't have money their life sucks and if they have money they are consumerist zombies.
I want a life with beauty, I want a beautiful succubus, I want to listen beautiful music, play beautiful videogames, read a beautifull book or manga, play the guitar and have a creative job, I really don't understand normies with consumerist or poor life, why to get up, you don't have dreams, you don't have a beautiful succubus, you don't enjoy beauty more than the last iphone and a good house.
Normies life sucks too, but normies believe they are so better than us, and that is wrong.
I really feel suicidal with this thoughts, I don't have the life I want and I don't want to life a life who I hate. I don't want to be a NEET and I don't want to be a normie with a shit work.
Sorry bad English dear wizards.
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 No.306832

you’re in the wrong part of town, failed normal nigger, we don’t want your kind here lusting after 3d succubi

 No.306833

I would say atleast live for whatever dopamine you can get and get a paid succubus for yourself and i also feel the same way why give a life to a life who I hate so get you self a paid succubus

 No.306834

You are on the wrong website. There is a variety of mainstream platforms like reddit, youtube, discord, 4channel which have specific subcommunities to discuss the desire for succubi.

 No.306835

>>306831
if there is 1.6 billion jeets out there then doesnt this mean they fuck all the time? you need a lot of sex to produce so many jeets.
also if they do have so many wizards/crabs then how come they dont have their own jeetwizchan? why they come to the human internet?

 No.306837

>>306835
come to think of it jeets who come here tend to be in early 20s, but still i think there should be a few in their 30ish.


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 No.323200[Reply]

i have been missing out on this so much! i already wrote about it here https://wizchan.org/lounge/res/322725.html#323192 but the tldr is that i bought a used ebook reader with e-ink display for 35€ and it is amazing and i feel really dumb for not looking into this technology sooner and missing out on a decade of reading because i have been barely reading at all, the only thing that did work for me often was audiobooks so when i encountered a fascinating book i always hoped there was an audiobook version but these days are over.

would love to hear about the opinions, worries, thoughts, questions and reading experience of other wizards! what are you reading? what device you like to use? is there something you wish you found out sooner? any tips for beginners? please tell me because i genuinely would like to know. feels new and life-affirming to me. this has rekindled a fascination i first felt with books when i was still a child that i never quite lived it out because i didn't have good access to books and i was so busy numbing myself in playing super mario to forget the childprison so i do feel the genuine excitement about it! in a way using this device gives me the pleasant feels of early emulation days where i look for roms and then emulate them on the little device.
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pine: this is the only silver lighting on the e-ink horizon. for some reason costs 600€ in the europe store currently while 400$ in the us. the company has wronged me already and did not give a fuck, which is too bad, otherwise i might have waited for this one and gave it a try. what bothers me is they have microphone built in but i am sure i would be able to remove them, the pine stuff is built to be accessed by the user, i assume it would be as easy as removing cables from the connector to get rid of it.

 No.323277

Any good ereaders around 8" that have long battery and SD cards?
Would like to load some manga on there too not just books.

 No.323280

>>323277
>Any good ereaders around 8" that have long battery and SD cards?

depends on if you want a colored e-ink display. i don't know in what fileformat the manga come though.

the biggest color e-ink on a kobo is the kobo libra colour with an 7 inch display and 32gb internal memory and no sd card. assholes took the sd slot out apparently. they say the battery lasts for weeks.

if you don't insist on colour, you can find an older kobo for cheap that has a 6 inch screen and an sd card slot.

i didn't know the newer ones don't have sd card slot, that's quite disgusting behavior by the manufacturer. costs them literally nothing to include an sd card slot in mass production and is imensely useful to whoever uses the device.

 No.323285

>>323280
Yeah couldn't find one with SD card either in the 8" range is why I asked just in case.
Feel like 6" is too small for manga.
32gb ain't much for manga either, it's not horrible, but I'd rather not have to make due.
I'll reconsider if I want one for purely reading.
I don't care for color. Feels like another layer of complexity that could go wrong and is more expensive.

 No.323289

>>323285
>I don't care for color. Feels like another layer of complexity that could go wrong and is more expensive.

i'm hoping for one to be released this year (by kobo, assuming they don't enshittify and keep letting users use a device without account and internet) that is big and uses color so that i can use it for pdf files. some books i can only find pdf versions and converting them to other formats seems like a nightmare. i could use them to look at jamie oliver cookbooks, which are colorfully illustrated and i always enjoyed looking at when i was younger. though it is kind of silly because i don't eat cooked food anymore…

if it comes with a pen i wouldn't mind, maybe it is fun to doodle on the actual pdfs i am reading, that looked pretty cool in videos i have seen about their current biggest reader, something like a ~10inch display.


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 No.33153[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Name the most obscure anime shows out there in the deep dark reaches of the internet that most people don’t know about
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>>33153
Crying Freeman. Truly a traumatizing experience.

 No.44232

>>33153
Eva and Mononoke are both on Netflix (ie normieville). Lain is also memed to death and anyone remotely online has heard of it

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>>44232
it's weird though. cuz like, it doesn't seem like people actually watch anime. they just post about it.

 No.44234

I quite enjoyed Majokko Tsukune Chan, it's all on youtube.

 No.44244

If you can't speak Japanese I would say stuff that never got released outside of Japan and has only such a small following only a fansub on some small niche torrent site or other site exists. I am jealous of people who know Japanese and have unlimited access to Japanese media.


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 No.322725[Reply]

i've seen a few wizards who don't seem healthy.

is too bad because being healthy is easy once you know what matters.
the practice of being healthy i have reduced to managing of habits:

you constantly manage your habits. you find out what they are by doing the opposite of being in autopilot. manual flight. then you imagine the long term consequences of each habit. then you decide if you want those, the development of a desired state. keep the desirable habits, reduce all those you don't want through constant attention on your habits.

as you do this you might stumble upon ways to improve upon the desirable habits. this is almost already doing the next thing, which is finding good new habits to practice and slowly wondering when you have time to do them.

it is up to you to be healthy, it is an option, you can make this happen if you so choose. health is one choice away.
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made a spectacular deal and bought a used e-ink ebook reader for 35€. it was made ~2011 and it is a joy to use! i've wanted one of those ever since the first kindle came out.

i use it to display .txt files, which works flawlessly. i can adjust the text size to my liking and i was even able to change the font to open-dyslexic, which i very much like. i have not even looked at the other fonts, there are probably other nice ones available.

there is this other file format that i don't hate called .epub and besides working similar to a .txt file it can also have pictures in it, which i was surprised to learn that the little device can display. when the epub file has a cover, the cover of what i am currently reading is displayed on the sleep screen; that was a pleasant surprise for me. it may be black and white but it is still plenty detailled!

the display is just pleasant to look at no matter the time of day. at night i can turn on the backlite with the press of one button next to the standby slider. i wish the minimum brightness was just the tiniest bitter lower but it is still ok.

what amazed me the most is using it in the sun. i had no idea how much i was craving a way to use technology in the sun. try using an old laptop in direct warm sunlight, or even just a phone with it's modern display. it sucks! not only will the sun help it to overheat, it requires also for the display to be turned bright all the way to see anything which makes it even hotter and uses more battery.

to sit in direct sunlight with an ebook reader, soaking up the rare few sunrays finding their way through the artificial aluminum-clouds is the answer i have been looking for … for over a decade. for the longest time i had no answer to the question of how i even like to read. it was always uncomfortable. how to read comfortable? with a cheap ebook reader using an e-ink display in the sun. solves 2 problems at once. the problem of how to get more sun and how to even read; i think that's cool.

in other news i've had my last unhealthy food a few days ago and now all i eat is good food no matter how strong the temptation; i've done this before but never with the intend of doing it permanently. after so many temporary experiments i thought it was time. now just a few days later i remembered that my poop no longer stinks and instead spreads the pleasant aroma of fresh vegetable soup. i laughed when i remembered.

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i've been eating exceptionally well the last week. basically all i eat is banana, grape, orange, grapefruit, cucumber, bell pepper, raw nuts, fresh herbs and spices. the worst thing i am eating is peanut butter but it is organic and 100% peanut, besides that nothing else but tea and coffee.

when i experienced this clean of a diet for the first time, i was so awe-struck by the amont of energy i suddenly had that it basically just paralysed me into feeling stupid for now knowing how to use it. now i still feel somewhat dumb and unable to wield this much energy but i am getting better at it and i invented something like a timeplanner that helps me use it more but i still feel like a novice.

the hard part is people can tell something is up with me and they feel incredible attracted and want to meet me and act out all the theater and disgraceful non-mutual meeting rituals. i am constantly being entrapped by ugly people who just refuse to care that they don't make me feel like i make them feel. i am a wizzard hermit so i don't like attention and when people give it to me, drop everything they do to stare at me or take video of me like i was a zoo animal, it annoys me so i have to be extra mindful of not displaying any sign of health or strentgh around people and basically pretend i am just a weird looking frail old man even though i feel like a god. the stronger i get, the more of my energy i have to spend in pretending like am weird or i literally can not walk down the street without someone blocking my path hoping i can be their missing puzzle piece.

 No.323278

>>323238
What do you even eat the spices with from that list?

 No.323281

>>323278
>What do you even eat the spices with from that list?

i cut cucumber and bell pepper into little sticks and i dip those sticks into a sauce made from spices, herbs, onion/garlic/turmeric/ginger, fresh orange juice and nuts/nutbutters in the blender.

herb+spice+nut+citrus = delicious healthy sauce. that's a sauce that does not throw me out of detox. i also pour that same sauce over cabbage shreddings.

 No.323284

>>323281
Sounds interesting I'll try it if I ever get around to it.


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 No.4744[Reply]

Wizards, please share and discuss classical music in this thread. Hopefully some of the wonderful contributors from the previous thread are still around.
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 No.10676

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0mvRf7dvO0

Anyone got anything similar to this or Claire De Lune

 No.10894

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12 of the same notes for midnight

 No.10896

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yZEkjrD5Qc

Exceptional track that doesn't really get attention, from 2:00 onwards especially.

 No.10908

I like Cherubini. Supposedly Beethoven once said he was the best composer.

 No.10910

Found out about this Welsh composer after reading The Mabinogion.


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 No.10909[Reply]

What's you guys opinion on Oingo Boingo? I like them but the vocals go a little over the top sometimes.

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 No.228116[Reply]

In short, my vision is fucked I especially notice this when I am wearing glasses.

In short, when I wear glasses they overlap on top of each other. I think the drawing I made might explain more than just words.

And no, it's still not just a problem with glasses I have even when I don't use them, but with glasses it especially makes this worse and, on top of that, I can't see without them that much.

And another thing is how my vision works. For example, if I focus on my hand instead of the box, the box will appear double, while if I focus on the box instead of the hand, the same thing will happen with my hand.

The image explains better

In short, I just want to know what my problem is and what the solution to it. Please help. I don't want to take it anymore. Please

 No.228118

This is normal. You see two images because you have two eyes. Close one.

 No.228119

Go to an eye doctor? A specialist that can do a wide variety of tests to give you a proper diagnosis. Double vision can be pretty serious, if it's not a problem with your eyes, it might even be neurological.

I had keratoconus in both eyes and the regular eye doctor lady just gave me a shitty pair of glasses and told me I'd get used to them but I never did and I just accepted living in a blurry world. Then a couple years later I read about the condition online randomly and went to a specialist that confirmed it and gave me special contact lenses and I see perfectly now. I'm pretty sure if you go to a good eye clinic, they'll figure out what's wrong and tell you how to treat it.

 No.228120

you are fucked up man maybe had a stroke

 No.228161

how can the glasses overlap, i can understand the image you are seeing overlapping but not the glasses. the glasses are made from solid the glasses can't just go into each other.

 No.228163

I think you would be better off asking Reddit. It's a serious problem, and you're right to be concerned. One should always be proactive about health.


/lounge/

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 No.323282[Reply]

I have a personal rule: I do not allow myself to gamble. Particularly, any sort of unskilled games like the lottery or slot machines. I don't trust myself with the "freedom" to gamble. That being said, I would play (low-stakes) skilled games—such as card games like poker—should the opportunity ever arise. (It hasn't.)
I recently encountered a conundrum which has challenged this "code:" raffles. Last Christmas, my relative gifted me a package of Fallout-themed sodas. Upon opening my first bottle, I noticed a blue star on the inner side of the cap. Any Fallout player knows that these blue stars are valuable, and I immediately scanned the QR code to learn more. I discovered that I won a ticket for a raffle. I knew I had no chance to win, but I debated all-day whether to enter the raffle. This is a slippery-slope, I reasoned. If I allow myself to do this, I can never purchase a package of this brand of soda without being ever-so-slightly biased by the raffle. In essence, this is gambling with extra steps. Eventually, I decided that I hadn't purchased the sodas myself, and—even if I had—I would not have purchased those with the raffle in mind. So, I entered the raffle.
After doing further research, I discovered that the raffle is limited to one entry-per-person, not one-per-ticket. So, I guess it's not quite gambling. Still, I'm left with the same conundrum: When do raffle tickets become gambling? What is the line between a raffle ticket and a lottery ticket?

 No.323283

>>323282
I made a few hundred bucks just using all the freebies from the myriad of casinos in my country.


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